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Jobless in Georgia in Riverdale, Georgia

98 months ago

I have been registered with Robert Half/Accountemps for well over 3 years, and it has been a joke. I did find out that they do get paid (something) for registering people. Do they find you work? NO! Are they looking? NO! They don't care because they are making money off of everyone they have listed as active.

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Jane Doe Smith in Arlington, Texas

94 months ago

Everyone has to beleive what ever it takes to get throught.

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cupacoffee in king of prussia in Old Zionsville, Pennsylvania

94 months ago

Jobless in Georgia in Riverdale, Georgia said: I have been registered with Robert Half/Accountemps for well over 3 years, and it has been a joke. I did find out that they do get paid (something) for registering people. Do they find you work? NO! Are they looking? NO! They don't care because they are making money off of everyone they have listed as active.

i agree they are a bad joke - but so are the companies that use them - these companies can't find & hire an HR person to read & evulate people for hire ..........!!!!!

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Azi in Los Angeles, California

94 months ago

They are a bad joke don't waste your time.

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Karen in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

81 months ago

Accountemps/Robert Half
Who trains you? Why do you post jobs that don't exist? Why can't you return emails?
Why can't you return phone calls.
One of the worst employees in the OKC office is Tiffany McGowen. Would love to know who manages you.
Where did you go to Rude school!
How can they keep the likes of you?

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Karen in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

81 months ago

patheticwithaP in Boston, Massachusetts said: One thing that really annoys me about accountemps is that when I call them and ask to speak with a specific person I get the same "May I ask who is calling?" than I get transferred to a voicemail because that person never answers their phone. I leave a message and never get a callback. Plus, I called 3 times in a day and they seemed annoyed because I kept giving them my name when they said "May I ask who is calling?" and they probably were irritated it was me again.

Anyways, after graduating with a BS in accounting and recently passing my CPA exam, I am still only qualified for their $11 an hour data entry jobs. I was actually told someone with "better qualifications" was given an $11 an hour job over me. I would like to know how much crack that person was taking!

Try a different agency, like the Addison Group,Principle Technologies, or Accel Financial. How long are employers going to keep hiring Robert Half for their staffing needs. I hope alot of employers read this. THIS IS A MUST READ:
You get great qualified candidates with Accounting degrees, who are hard working individuals through Accountemps. You pay those dummies at Robert Half $43/hr or sometimes less/more and we make 1/2 of that. Then of all things they treat us like pure crap. Rude is a good word for them. No manners and the lack of professionalism is uncanning. We work for them because like everyone in this country we need a job. Once you get into a temp role with them forget the permanent side helping you look for a job, it just doesn't happen. I have never in my life worked for a recruiter this horrible. I am still on assignment with them, but never again. If anyone knows of a way to contact the investors or top management of this company please let me know. I really cannot stand working for them in Oklahoma City, but it sounds like all of the recruiters go to the same school of rudeness.

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Mary in Marietta, Georgia

75 months ago

I was going to register with this agency today but canceled and promised to reschedule. However, I stumbled upon this site by accident and I'm glad I did. The comments have been very helpful. One thing though, what type of test do they give?

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KH in Northfield, Minnesota

74 months ago

I think most of the comments on this page are motivated by emotion. I took approximately the same tests with Spherion, Prostaff and Officeteam. Prostaff called about one job, but I couldn't do that one. Officeteam has placed me several times, and each experience has been good. The general job situation right now is, of course, quite difficult, but there are still placements occurring. One thing the temp agencies really seem to rely on is the employee making contact on a pretty regular basis. I've not been great on that. Also-mentioned earlier was the last employer reference. That would be important to any employer, and is quite reasonable. As long as you are a good employee, there really should be no problem with it.

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Jen in Jersey City, New Jersey

72 months ago

Phoenix Female in Glendale, Arizona said: Yeah, what's with the "last employer contact"? That's all my recruiter seemed to want. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understantd the fact that leaving my last place of employment might not get me a terrific reference, even though it was on decent terms. Aside from that, prior employers are bound by law not to provide certain information regarding your employment, primarily negative comments. Why is RHI so intent on getting this information? I offered the recruiter 5 reference letters from prior employers and she didn't seem to really want them nor was she interested in a thorough interview. I felt I got the bum's rush, even though my test scores were "very impressive" to hear her tell it. What's the scoop?

I used to work for the evil empire, and I can tell you that the only reason they want your most recent employer, is because they want to call that supervisor to try and get job orders, ie; if they place you with one of their current clients, they get a bonus, and if they magically call the client that has unexpectedly lost an employee (you) then they can get the replacement fill, or at least a foot in the door.....it's all about the money.

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Lara 100 in Conroe, Texas

61 months ago

Tony George in Vancouver, Washington said: Just ONE Example- many years back I worked as "temp. to hire". The staffing agent raved about the place I was being placed at, what a great place it was. Shortly after I started I found out from the other workers that the temp. agency had placed 10 people in that position in the past 2 years. Hum...red flag..Long story short the employer liked my work and offered me a permanent position after 90 days. I accepted. About 2 weeks later I found out why they had gone through so many people- I was subjected to verbal abuse by the owners daughter (who happened to be the CFO). Funny she was sweet as pie while I was still a "temp" on the staffing payroll. But she revealed her true face when I was on her payroll.

This is not an example to support your statement regarding temp agencies. This supports an example regarding what is hidden by the agency's customer. This scenario is old. You could also have cut out the middle man and get hired directly so that you could enjoy the abuse sooner.

I had an agency send me on an interview for a temp job which I didn't take because I got a better offer. When my better job ended 6 months later the agency told me the same temp job was still open and that several people had been in the job since I interviewed. I voiced my concern that there must be some problem with the client but she insisted everyone had a legit reason for leaving and that wasn't the case. Another agency sent me on an assignment where the supervisor laid low for the first couple weeks and then became an abusive b.... - found out several other temps had been there previously - one perm employee even quit because of the abuse while I was there. Because the client badmouthed me the agency never sent me on another assignment even though the agency knows other candidates were treated the same by the b.... at the client's office.

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Musiqsongbyrd in Atlanta, Georgia

43 months ago

I was new to the Atlanta area so I signed up with Accountemps...was sent on an interview, and was told I HAD the job, yet they were unable to provide me with a start date. I was told by my recruiter it would be "tomorrow"...and she would call me with the details. Well.. tomorrow came, and NOTHING. Not even a call from my recruiter with details. So, when I finally called her...I was told...I would be starting later this week..(and she was ABOUT to call me). I was told I would receive a call with my official start date and time...again..nothing! Needless to say...one week went by...and each day I was told..a different day of the week I would start. And the only way I received this information is because I had to keep calling my recruiter. She did not even have the professional decency to give me updates! So..FINALLY...I get a call... with my start date. I went in...only to be interviewed by SOMEONE else AFTER I had already had an interview! For an entirely different position. But, I was told I was going to work! Wow! Right? So...after I speak to the managers..they tell me I can go. I was there a total of about 20 mins after an hour commute, while under the assumption I would be working billable hours. So, I call the recruiter, and she tells me..they want you...you ARE hired..they just don't know when! WTF!!!!!! ????? So, during the course of one week, I held off other calls, agencies and offers, because I was told I was HIRED and would be starting...Mon...then..Weds...then...Fri.... then Monday! Needless to say....I am STILL not working..and the last call with them...was "you are hired and will be starting Monday". Oh, and lets not forget the fact that when I was told about the position I was given one salary, and "after" I accepted...I was told she made a mistake with the salary. WTF!!!!!! Accountemps SUCKS monkey balls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Duped in San Francisco, California

41 months ago

So much for RHI/AT ever getting me or my business in the future. Some "Staffing Manager" in San Jose, CA randomly calls me an hour and a half before an interview I had set up 3 weeks prior, and starts shoveling her high pressure, "I have an employer that's looking for someone with exactly your qualifications to hire immediately!". No matter I have an interview in less than two hours, and she wanted me to drive an hour and a half to "complete their paperwork" so I could start in 2 days. Dumb me, I indulged her the following Tuesday as requested. Fell for their BS temporarily until 10 days had passed, and the only contact made was from my end...never mind the extremely unprofessional "manager" Kim, stood me up for nearly an hour, even though she requested the appointment time while she was "in a meeting"... Hey little lady, a little friendly advice, don't make your company look bad by: a) standing your guests up, and b) feeding the
BS (including the poppycock "I can't tell you anything about the company or the position"... It reflects very poorly on your entire firm to those of us that actually have managed hundreds of employees both internationally and here in the US. Go back to finnishing school. Learn some professional manners, and at least try to display some integrity, as a favor to the managers above you that unwisely entrust their firm's reputation to you. As it is now, RHI/AT is a firm I'll never use not recommend ever in the future--which will cost them far more than the few bucks they were going to skim off the top of my $75/hr. "supposed" job. Too bad it appears that RHI/AT is only some pointless no character telemarketing firm. Note to Exec. Mgmt, maybe you need me to "find" you a true asset in your SJ office, before Kim (last name reminds me of a "Friendly Ghost"...) completely trashes your reputation in the silicon valley. RHI/AT is a total joke, and I'm a bit embarrassed that I fell for her high pressure Mortgage Broker sales pitch for a few days.

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noname in Chicago, Illinois

38 months ago

Okay I am with acctemp, and I hate the pay they take everything and give u what's left over and that's it. Ur signing ur hard earned life away and that's it too.

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Anonymous in Huntington Beach, California

34 months ago

Accountemps in Irvine, CA, has become a joke...again. I've dealt with them years ago and again very recently. They've had some good and some not-so-good people work for them. It depends who you are working with and whether or not they have genuine interest in helping you find employment at a fair pay rate. Bottom-line: These people pretend to really care about you, but they're only out for themselves. You may have a good working relationship in the beginning, when they return your calls and e-mails, but then they try to low-ball you on new assignments (to pad their commissions, I imagine), and they become resentful if you decline the assignments being offered. They're exuberance and enthusiasm changes drastically. You can hear even here it in their voices. This is exactly what happened to me. I did a few assignment for them, was paid at a decent rate, and was told I did an excellent job. Then business dropped off and, when it began to pick up again, I was presented with jobs at a much lower rate, which I politely declined. And then I found work with another agency, and when they called me and found out things really changed. They now refuse to return my e-mails and phone calls and have basically blown me off. They don't even have the courage to tell you exactly why they no longer want to work with you. They are unprofessional and discourteous when they decide that you're no longer an asset to them. Also, if you do make an appointment to meet with them for the first time, expect to be in the office for a minimum of two hours. You'll be waiting about a half-hour alone just to meet with the person you spoke with. And they don't validate parking, either! So you have to either park at the food court down the street and hope your car won't get towed. Otherwise, you'll pay $6.00 an hour for parking. Unfortunately, with the job market the way it is, most staffing agencies are like this now. They're a few good ones out there still, but you'll be hard-pressed to find them.

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Av in Manhasset, New York

34 months ago

Jobless in Georgia in Riverdale, Georgia said: I have been registered with Robert Half/Accountemps for well over 3 years, and it has been a joke. I did find out that they do get paid (something) for registering people. Do they find you work? NO! Are they looking? NO! They don't care because they are making money off of everyone they have listed as active.

They are a _______ joke. THis is a cmpany i wonder how they still exist. but all temp craps are like this now.

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Bean counter in San Jose, California

34 months ago

Am sickened by this blood-sucking company's business practice and resulting profits! Just viewed some ad from this site and appalled by its stated hourly rate, they've always been lowballing its contractors big time but clearly it's getting worse because they know they can get away with it due to the 'great recession'. Sad for the ones who have to take the gigs and the thousands who're waiting for their calls...

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Bean counter in San Jose, California

34 months ago

I understand when an agency does not call me for any openings that I am qualified for, as a)there are too many candidates and too few jobs, b) 'fit' is a significant factor besides having the right skillset.

Some of us may have been labeled 'Do not use" due to some very subjective perceptions by the recruiters during interviews as indicated by a former recruiter in another thread.

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Anon in Huntington Beach, California

34 months ago

Karen in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma said: Accountemps/Robert Half
Who trains you? Why do you post jobs that don't exist? Why can't you return emails?
Why can't you return phone calls.
One of the worst employees in the OKC office is Tiffany McGowen. Would love to know who manages you.
Where did you go to Rude school!
How can they keep the likes of you?

Sounds just like all the Accountemps/RHI locations I've dealt with, including Long Beach, Laguna Hills, Orange, and Irvine, California. From reading the comments, it looks like this practice is company-wide.

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MBA_CPA in Louisville, Kentucky

32 months ago

They don't care at all about the people that work for them - all they care about is the commissions they make on their contracts . they figure they can always find more people to take temp assignments, but will do whatever they have to do to keep their commission contracts.

I will never work for them again, nor will I recommend them to anyone.

I know it seems as though I too was pressured to give references and that is all that they cared about. I was put on a poor assignment in which I felt that I was just an extra thats all just an extra. Because I was told it would go perm but the assignment was pulled right from underneath me with another temp brought in a week later doing exactly what I was doing; it was like they wanted us to compete for the same job. That was crazy I had more experience and education!!!!!

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Joe Gagill in Sparrow Bush, New York

32 months ago

In my exp. with Half.

Overall, they are good, however, in general recruiters aren't so easy to deal with.

I could tell when I would go in to their office that the recruiters were under a lot of stress to produce. A LOT.

This was 10 plus yrs ago.

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Michael in Cypress, Texas

32 months ago

Alyssa in Tampa, Florida said: They Don't make money off people just for registering them, that's ridiculous. Think about it logically, the company wouldn't be able to fund that activity and they would go out of business . Maybe your logic (or lack thereof) is why RH couldn't place you.

Obviously you have been trotted out by Accountemps/Robert Half to provide a rebuttal! The clowns who work at this agency are people who couldn't make it in the field they are recruiting for....they are smooth talkers and BS artist who make a living praying on unemployed people and that it my book is unethical! Case in point I just got placed by Accountemps in Houston. I subsequently find out that they are charging the clients for my serivces $44.13 an hour (where the shysters got the .13 I don't know) while paying me $24 and I am the one driving 50 miles a day one way to the job and going through 6 tolls!!! And all they did was make a few phone calls to this client and then throw a 100 resumes at him until he hired one of them! Now does that sound fair or even legal!!! to top in off when I ask for a little more money to at least offset the toll road fees the tell me "their hands are tied"!! They wouldn't budge a dollar!

Btw the clowns at Robert Half do blackball people. I know they did it to me years ago because I didn't accept what they called was a "lucrative" assignment. I subsequently wrote the CEO himself a letter and he lifted the ban!!!!

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temp in Fishers, Indiana

31 months ago

brugandy40yarder rolloff in California said: Do not work with staffing agencies unless you are completely desperate.

If you dont have a job apply for whoever will get you in the door. I have worked for agencys and been hired on full time. yes they do whatever to get you in a position but again people have to work and now days companys are using agency's because they can with the job market the way it is. dont be so hard on these companys they can help

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elo1978 in Minneapolis, Minnesota

31 months ago

You have to remember that they have access to the hidden job market.

I call my agencies every week, although I will try to do a mass-email instead of calling in the future. Accountemps is the only agency that calls me back every week after I call them.

Yes, the temp market is slowly picking up. I just got a call from Kelly Financial about a job in my area of Minneapolis/St. Paul, MN and I haven't worked for them in 6 years.

Also go to job networking groups. I connected with a former recruiter and he is helping me revamp my resume. If you can get a job on your own - that is the best way, but utilize any way to get a job.

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wre in Dowagiac, Michigan

28 months ago

brugandy40yarder rolloff in California said: Why would I want to work with a staffing agency when the wages you are paid are way lower then a normal employee and you get no benefits ! Staffing agencies are making big dollars off the employer and the employee gets little. I work in accounting and have seen many invoices from staffing agencies- I see markup stats like an employee is paid $12 per hour and the staffing agency is paid $19-$22 an hour for that person (thats a big profit for the efforts the put forth) they are simply a high paid go between entity, and the employee gets no benefits. You must work for a staffing agency huh ? lol. Also I have that often "temps" as they are known in work force are looked down on to vast degree by the other employee's they are working with at the company they are placed at. Ya, been there , done that. So I'll say it again, only work with a staffing agency as a last resort.

Try $12 and $26. Only a pimp could have done better.

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Joe Gagill in Monticello, New York

28 months ago

elo1978 in Minneapolis, Minnesota said: You have to remember that they have access to the hidden job market.

You are correct. Agencies have access to the HIDDEN job market. Kind of seems unfair for the job searcher sitting at home looking for work.

And, many times if you apply directly to a company the company feels more comfortable using their regular outside search firm screening applicants rather than the company themselves contacting the applicant who applied directly to the company website.

Dealing with HeadHunters is not easy. Be nice it there were no middleman.

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unemployed Level II desktop support in Yorktown Heights, New York

27 months ago

Michael in Cypress, Texas said: Obviously you have been trotted out by Accountemps/Robert Half to provide a rebuttal! The clowns who work at this agency are people who couldn't make it in the field they are recruiting for....they are smooth talkers and BS artist who make a living praying on unemployed people and that it my book is unethical! Case in point I just got placed by Accountemps in Houston. I subsequently find out that they are charging the clients for my serivces $44.13 an hour (where the shysters got the .13 I don't know) while paying me $24 and I am the one driving 50 miles a day one way to the job and going through 6 tolls!!! And all they did was make a few phone calls to this client and then throw a 100 resumes at him until he hired one of them! Now does that sound fair or even legal !!! to top in off when I ask for a little more money to at least offset the toll road fees the tell me "their hands are tied"!! They wouldn't budge a dollar!

Btw the clowns at Robert Half do blackball people. I know they did it to me years ago because I didn't accept what they called was a "lucrative" assignment. I subsequently wrote the CEO himself a letter and he lifted the ban!!!!

legal indentured servitude.

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unemployed Level II desktop support in Yorktown Heights, New York

27 months ago

Phoenix Female in Glendale, Arizona said: Yeah, what's with the "last employer contact"? That's all my recruiter seemed to want. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understantd the fact that leaving my last place of employment might not get me a terrific reference, even though it was on decent terms. Aside from that, prior employers are bound by law not to provide certain information regarding your employment, primarily negative comments. Why is RHI so intent on getting this information? I offered the recruiter 5 reference letters from prior employers and she didn't seem to really want them nor was she interested in a thorough interview. I felt I got the bum's rush, even though my test scores were "very impressive" to hear her tell it. What's the scoop?

they ask about our last assignments to gain info they need. it's a sleazy business being a parasite. they want to know what you made at the last gig so they can low ball you on their gig. it's none of their business what I was making for a different company at my last job.

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unemployed Level II desktop support in Yorktown Heights, New York

27 months ago

Joe Gagill in Monticello, New York said: You are correct. Agencies have access to the HIDDEN job market. Kind of seems unfair for the job searcher sitting at home looking for work.

And, many times if you apply directly to a company the company feels more comfortable using their regular outside search firm screening applicants rather than the company themselves contacting the applicant who applied directly to the company website.

Dealing with HeadHunters is not easy. Be nice it there were no middleman.

I wish this unfair(illegal?) labor practice would be looked into and changed. But I'm not holding my breath.

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StaffingExpert in Pleasanton, California

27 months ago

unemployed Level II desktop support in Yorktown Heights, New York said: they ask about our last assignments to gain info they need. it's a sleazy business being a parasite. they want to know what you made at the last gig so they can low ball you on their gig. it's none of their business what I was making for a different company at my last job.

Here is a simple answer as to why someone in staffing wants to know what you were making in your last few positions...we want to know what your expected salary range is! I am not going to call you on a $14/hr position if your basement number is $18/hr. If you were directly interviewing with a position you found yourself, would you find it odd for a hiring manager to ask you your recent salary #'s? Of course not.

Also for those of you stating that companies are billing $26 and paying you $12...that is absurd. At BEST for a temp or temp-to-hire position there is an 80% markup. So if you're being paid $15, the highest you will typically see is a $27 bill rate to the client, for a difference of $12. Out of that $12 is our taxes as your employer, our expenses, and our profit. And majority of the time, we don't even hit that 80% markup, more like 65-75%. We are not a non-profit entity.

Also, no staffing firm I am aware of gets paid for bringing in candidates. We also don't get paid to interview you, present your resume to employers, spend hours searching for candidates on behalf of our clients, etc. I get paid when I match up a candidate with a client and they bill hours, period.

Personally, I guess I am one of the "good ones." I return calls, return e-mails and treat candidates with as much respect as I do clients. Are there some out there that don't? Of course. Typically, they don't last long.

Simplest piece of advice I make sure I tell every candidate when I interview them...NO STAFFING AGENCY OR HEADHUNTER SHOULD BE YOUR ONLY RESOURCE FOR FINDING A JOB.

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Joe Gagill in Kingston, New York

27 months ago

StaffingExpert in Pleasanton, California said:

Personally, I guess I am one of the "good ones." I return calls, return e-mails and treat candidates with as much respect as I do clients. Are there some out there that don't? Of course. Typically, they don't last long.

I think allot of the nasty writings on Indeed would be toned down to some degree if all recruiters would be more sensitive to the job seeker if the job seeker is not the right fit for the position. What do I mean?

Call the job applicant back. And spend just a few minutes on the phone. Be polite, understanding, and give some honest feedback.

I think if this was done the job seeker, deep down inside, would realize that they really didn't have the right skill match.

I was contacted by a NC recruiter last week. She never followed back up with me. It's just wrong.
AND BESIDES, HOW CAN ANYONE HATE A PERSON IF THEY ARE NICE AND POLITE.

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Joe Gagill in Kingston, New York

27 months ago

And, I understand you guys are in a pressure cooker of an environment with qoutas and such. But, part of the job is calling job seekers back up and spending a few minutes telling them were not going with you.

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StaffingExpert in Pleasanton, California

27 months ago

Joe Gagill in Kingston, New York said: And, I understand you guys are in a pressure cooker of an environment with qoutas and such. But, part of the job is calling job seekers back up and spending a few minutes telling them were not going with you.

Joe, completely agreed with you. I work with 5 other people in my office, and I would personally put my reputation on the line vouching for any of them. We are dedicated professionals who TRULY feel happy and celebrate when we find someone employment. We all have a stack of cards, printed e-mails, etc. sent to us by candidates (even including those we still have not been able to place), showing their appreciation for our candor, professionalism and for just truly caring. We ALL are here a minimum of 8-6 monday-friday and we are not hourly employees. Do I do it for the money? Absolutely, but truthfully 99 days out of a 100, I am truly proud of what I do. I myself was laid off after working 8 years for one company and was unemployed (outside of temp work, bartending, etc) for 19 months. I know what it feels like for out of work candidates. I am happy when we start someone somewhere, and I get pissed off when a client ends a candidate without valid reason.

And yes...I and my colleagues I described, work for Robert Half.

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Unemployed Paralegal in Denver, Colorado

27 months ago

[QUOTE who="StaffingExpert in Pleasanton, California"I know what it feels like for out of work candidates.Then why do you recruiters lie to candidates, break promises to them and are rude to them?

Please avoid self-serving commentary and answer the question directly, please.

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Unemployed Paralegal in Denver, Colorado

27 months ago

StaffingExpert in Pleasanton, California said: I know what it feels like for out of work candidates.
Then why do you recruiters lie to candidates, break promises to them and are rude to them?

Please avoid self-serving commentary and answer the question directly, please.

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StaffingExpert in Pleasanton, California

27 months ago

Unemployed Paralegal in Denver, Colorado said: Then why do you recruiters lie to candidates, break promises to them and are rude to them?

Please avoid self-serving commentary and answer the question directly, please.

Would you like to provide a personal experience you have had that I can address, e.g. how were you lied to, what promises were broken to you, etc.?

As I stated, I can't speak for everyone, but I can speak for myself and my 5 colleagues.

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StaffingExpert in Pleasanton, California

27 months ago

Joe Gagill in Kingston, New York said: I can't believe I'm being pleasant to a Recruiter. LOL. The new me maybe.

Joe, there are bad eggs in any industry. Are there some slimeball recruiters out there? ABSOLUTELY. I know for a fact they wouldn't last a month in my office. Myself, as a division director or my boss, our branch manager, would not put up with it.

Still waiting to hear from unemployed paralegal...

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Joe Gagill in Monticello, New York

27 months ago

StaffingExpert in Pleasanton, California said: Joe, there are bad eggs in any industry. Are there some slimeball recruiters out there? ABSOLUTELY. I know for a fact they wouldn't last a month in my office. Myself, as a division director or my boss, our branch manager, would not put up with it.

Still waiting to hear from unemployed paralegal...

I do think that there are way too many recruiters who shouldn't be recruiters though. It's not that they are all slimy, it's that they just lack basic professionalism. And, they always tell obvious fibs here and there. It seems from my experience it's young girls just out of college a few years who become recruiters and just don't have the people skills amongst other things.

If this is the first time you are posting on Indeed you will learn very quickly that recruiters aren't well liked here. Your sort of in the lion's den. LOL. U.E. has no tolerance for recruiters.

One last thing, do recruiters look for candidates on CareerBuilder, Monster, and/or Linkedln? And, what's the one thing you hear companies complain about over and over after you send over a candidate? (communication skills, whatever)

Thanks

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Unemployed Paralegal in Denver, Colorado

27 months ago

StaffingExpert in Pleasanton, California said: Would you like to provide a personal experience you have had that I can address, e.g. how were you lied to, what promises were broken to you, etc.?
Yes. I'll do ya one better; I'll provide two.

ONE:

A Half Legal recruiter e-mailed me off my online job board resume. I responded that I do not deal with recruiters. That should have ended it. She continued to bug me off and on for months. I always gave her the same response: I do not deal with recruiters.

She e-mailed me again, asking if we had met. I responded "no." I heard from her again, on and off for a month. She finally stopped after I responded, again, that I do not deal with recruiters. I also set forth how recruiters have lied to be, reneged on promises to me and were rude to me.

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Unemployed Paralegal in Denver, Colorado

27 months ago

I'll provide two more experiences.

TWO:

A headhunter tried to hold me responsible for her fee. I interviewed with her for a fee-paid position. At the end of the interview she pushed a contract at me. The contract would have bound me for her fee were her client to fire me. I walked out. I then spoke by phone with the president of the agency. The president was dismissive of me. She said their clients were their first priority and candidates be damned.

A couple of Half headhunters have written me that this experience was an irregular practice. I doubt it. I submit if this agency did it, so do others.

THREE:

I wanted to change jobs. A law firm to which I had applied rejected me. A couple of weeks later, I answered a legal recruiter's ad. The position was for work for which I was qualified. I knew of the headhunter because her office was in the same building where I worked. My firm had used her temps.

I met with the headhunter. During the interview she badmouthed the shareholder of my then-firm. She asked where I had applied for jobs, ostensibly, she said, to avoid duplication. I inadvertently forgot to give her the name of the firm which had rejected me. A few days later, she called me. Turns out that law firm was her client!! She reamed me for not giving her its name. She accused me of trying to make her "look bad." She was very rude. Her badmouthing of my then-boss was also rude.

Since when was it the candidate's responsibility not to make a recruiter "look bad"? And where was the harm? All her client had to say was it had already interviewed me - which it did. Moreover, it is well known recruiters pump candidates for employer contacts to find out openings to push their services and other candidates at these employers.

I have more experiences. My wife has had her experiences with recruiters as well.

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Unemployed Paralegal in Denver, Colorado

27 months ago

I'll relate a recruiter experience specific to lying and reneging on promises.

I answered a recruiter's ad for a paralegal. I thought this recruiter would be reputable because it was associated with the city bar association. The ad appeared in the Saturday classifieds. I e-mailed my resume that day. She called me Monday morning and I saw her that afternoon.

I don't think my interview with the recruiter went well. Nevertheless, she said she would forward my resume to her client. She gave me her client's name; it was the local office of a national law firm. I sent the recruiter a thank-you letter. She had assured she would call me that afternoon or the next afternoon at the latest. She never called.

A month later, the headhunter advertised again in the classifieds for the same position. She advertised the position a third time three months later. Here again, she reneged on her promise to call me.

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StaffingExpert in Pleasanton, California

27 months ago

Joe Gagill in Monticello, New York said: One last thing, do recruiters look for candidates on CareerBuilder, Monster, and/or Linkedln? And, what's the one thing you hear companies complain about over and over after you send over a candidate? (communication skills, whatever)

Thanks

Yes, there are a lot of recent college grads. I myself worked in the industry I staff for (accounting/finance) as a portfolio analyst, a fraud investigator and an auditor for 10 years prior to changing careers. I do find a few of the younger folks do lack basic office skills, professionalism, etc. But again, they don't last long, hence the high industry turnover.

And yes, I am noticing this is "the lion's den." Hahaha! I have just as many bad experiences with candidates that I could post here as you candidates have had with recruiters...probably more. Nature of the beast. I don't take it personally.

As far as your questions go...I myself use LinkedIn a ton. My RHI division (along with all of the others) have our own website that applicants can electronically submit their resumes to or apply to positions as well. I do also peruse Monster/Career Builder when I have the time. The one thing I typically hear over and over from clients about candidates that don't work out typically isn't anything to do with their work, attendance, punctuality, etc., though those do happen. The biggest thing that turns clients off is a temp coming in to their company and being too aggressive. Meaning, don't go in to an assignment and try to reinvent the wheel. Do the job you're brought in for, do it well and hopefully parlay it into permanent employment. Don't overstep your bounds. It happens way too often for my liking.

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StaffingExpert in Pleasanton, California

27 months ago

Unemployed Paralegal in Denver, Colorado said: Yes. I'll do ya one better; I'll provide two.

ONE:

A Half Legal recruiter e-mailed me off my online job board resume. I responded that I do not deal with recruiters. That should have ended it. She continued to bug me off and on for months. I always gave her the same response: I do not deal with recruiters.

She e-mailed me again, asking if we had met. I responded "no." I heard from her again, on and off for a month. She finally stopped after I responded, again, that I do not deal with recruiters. I also set forth how recruiters have lied to be, reneged on promises to me and were rude to me.

So because you had a previous bad experience with a certain individual, you passive-aggressively took it out on this RHI recruiter? You generalized in that you "don't deal with recruiters." As in any profession, there are good ones and bad ones...I am sure there are good paralegals and bad paralegals. You may have missed out on a good opportunity with her because of past experiences.

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StaffingExpert in Pleasanton, California

27 months ago

Unemployed Paralegal in Denver, Colorado said: I'll provide two more experiences.

TWO:

A headhunter tried to hold me responsible for her fee. I interviewed with her for a fee-paid position. At the end of the interview she pushed a contract at me. The contract would have bound me for her fee were her client to fire me. I walked out. I then spoke by phone with the president of the agency. The president was dismissive of me. She said their clients were their first priority and candidates be damned.

A couple of Half headhunters have written me that this experience was an irregular practice. I doubt it. I submit if this agency did it, so do others.

I can't speak as to whether it's an irregular practice in the small firm headhunting world, I don't do perm placements. But, I can tell you that my permanent placement division which I have a ton of overlap and contact with, do not work with our candidates in that regard. That is sleazy as hell, and I don't blame you one bit for being pissed.

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StaffingExpert in Pleasanton, California

27 months ago

Unemployed Paralegal in Denver, Colorado said: THREE:

I wanted to change jobs. A law firm to which I had applied rejected me. A couple of weeks later, I answered a legal recruiter's ad. The position was for work for which I was qualified. I knew of the headhunter because her office was in the same building where I worked. My firm had used her temps.

I met with the headhunter. During the interview she badmouthed the shareholder of my then-firm. She asked where I had applied for jobs, ostensibly, she said, to avoid duplication. I inadvertently forgot to give her the name of the firm which had rejected me. A few days later, she called me. Turns out that law firm was her client!! She reamed me for not giving her its name. She accused me of trying to make her "look bad." She was very rude. Her badmouthing of my then-boss was also rude.

Since when was it the candidate's responsibility not to make a recruiter "look bad"? And where was the harm? All her client had to say was it had already interviewed me - which it did. Moreover, it is well known recruiters pump candidates for employer contacts to find out openings to push their services and other candidates at these employers.

I have more experiences. My wife has had her experiences with recruiters as well.

I feel it was wrong of her to "ream" you and I don't believe you tried to purposely make her "look bad", but you inadvertently did. Our job is based around two things: people and information. Clients come to us to get them the best possible candidate typically ASAP and to know the local market we are staffing for. So when a recruiter presents a resume to a client of a candidate that has already applied directly and been rejected, it does make the recruiter look incompetent. Again, definitely not something you did on purpose, but understand that she was correct in her assumption that she "looked bad" to the client. Not something I think is worth reaming someone out for at all though.

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StaffingExpert in Pleasanton, California

27 months ago

Unemployed Paralegal in Denver, Colorado said: I'll relate a recruiter experience specific to lying and reneging on promises.

I answered a recruiter's ad for a paralegal. I thought this recruiter would be reputable because it was associated with the city bar association. The ad appeared in the Saturday classifieds. I e-mailed my resume that day. She called me Monday morning and I saw her that afternoon.

I don't think my interview with the recruiter went well. Nevertheless, she said she would forward my resume to her client. She gave me her client's name; it was the local office of a national law firm. I sent the recruiter a thank-you letter. She had assured she would call me that afternoon or the next afternoon at the latest. She never called.

A month later, the headhunter advertised again in the classifieds for the same position. She advertised the position a third time three months later. Here again, she reneged on her promise to call me.

What more than likely happened (not saying it was right of her to not contact you and give you feedback) is that she presented your resume to her client via e-mail and they came back and said "pass." Some recruiters are afraid of calling someone and telling them that the client passed on interviewing you. A lot of time we don't even get feedback to relay to the candidate, and some recruiters are afraid of the inevitable "well why didn't they want to bring me in?" question.

When I hear of that being an issue with a staffing manager under me, or even at a training seminar or whatever...I tell them that candidates will appreciate the upfront blunt honesty of telling them that they were rejected rather than stringing them along or plain ignoring them.

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StaffingExpert in Pleasanton, California

27 months ago

Hope I answered all of the questions. Anything else, post them.

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Unemployed Paralegal in Denver, Colorado

27 months ago

StaffingExpert in Pleasanton, California said: So because you had a previous bad experience with a certain individual, you passive-aggressively took it out on this RHI recruiter?
What passive aggression?? This woman kept e-mailing me for a month after I wrote to her that I do not deal with recruiters. One time should have been enough.
StaffingExpert in Pleasanton, California said: You may have missed out on a good opportunity with her because of past experiences.
That comment does not surprise me, nor does your previous comment. For one thing, I wrote about a Robert Half Legal recruiter. I doubt that if I would have given the name of another agency you would have responded defensively by calling me passive-aggressive. I also doubt you would have called it a "good opportunity" if I hadn't cited Robert Half.

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Unemployed Paralegal in Denver, Colorado

27 months ago

StaffingExpert in Pleasanton, California said: Not to be a sarcastic jerk, but...WOW?! You mean to tell me that salespeople look for leads? That's revolutionary! All salespeople should think about trying that! ;)

Of course in an interview I am going to ask where you've applied/interviewed recently. One, it keeps me from doing what happened with your rejected paralegal position and possibly duplicating your resume somewhere. Two, and honestly more important to me, I know now that ABC company is looking for a (insert position here). That helps me by giving me a lead, and it also helps out other candidates I work with in that they may perfectly fit that opportunity that I may never know existed without asking you.

Thank you. You have admitted something that I and many people on this board have suspected - that you headhunters ask candidates where they have applied in order to mine them for openings for which you can peddle your other candidates. Sorry, but asking that information without disclosing the true purpose is simply unethical. It also proves FWIW that you do not have candidates' interests at heart - but everyone knows that about you recruiters anyway. Do you also contact candidates' previous employers and push your candidates at them under the assumption their positions are open?

AFAIAC it's none of your damn business where I have applied for work. That is a private matter; the only other entity that would be privy to my jobsearching activities would be the state Department of Labor and Employment for unemployment benefit eligibility determination.

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Unemployed Paralegal in Denver, Colorado

27 months ago

StaffingExpert in Pleasanton, California said: What more than likely happened (not saying it was right of her to not contact you and give you feedback) is that she presented your resume to her client via e-mail and they came back and said "pass." Some recruiters are afraid of calling someone and telling them that the client passed on interviewing you. A lot of time we don't even get feedback to relay to the candidate, and some recruiters are afraid of the inevitable "well why didn't they want to bring me in?" question.
Oh, come on. You are not dealing with children. You are dealing with adults; many of whom having dealt with rejection far greater than you or I have experienced and who can handle it. Believe me, I can take it. I for one would appreciate some truth and candor for a change instead of the nonsense you have written regarding this issue. BTW that recruiter had been director of that bar association's placement service for twenty years when I visited her about that job.
StaffingExpert in Pleasanton, California said: When I hear of that being an issue with a staffing manager under me, or even at a training seminar or whatever...I tell them that candidates will appreciate the upfront blunt honesty of telling them that they were rejected rather than stringing them along or plain ignoring them.
Apparently you are the only such person. Just read these forums. You will see time and time again comments from jobseekers who attend interviews with recruiters and the recruiters gush over them, telling them they are the "perfect candidate" for the job. Then they never hear from the recruiter again, despite repeated calls.

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Unemployed Paralegal in Denver, Colorado

27 months ago

StaffingExpert in Pleasanton, California said: I don't understand why people feel that it's a sleazy tactic. If you applied directly and didn't get the job, why shouldn't I then get in touch with my contact at ABC company and try to get them to interview some of my candidates? They weren't interested in you. But your giving me that information may possibly get another unemployed individual a position.
You don't understand why that tactic is sleazy?? Come on. It's disgusting in every way, just like the practices in your "industry" are by and large disgusting.

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