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Misc in Troy, Michigan

46 months ago

Anonymous said: Sorry about my previous post. I did not realize that my actual name could be seen on it.

I hear their will be layoffs at the end of July. I know that they will keep me, but I feel sorry for everyone else. Good luck everyone!

Why are you apologizing for your previous post. Just don't complain about having to go into the office or get laid off if your not worried about getting laid off. Also, Don't feel sorry for everyone else because believe you me, we can all live without EDS. You are the one we all feel sorry for, sounds like your pretty much stuck in a situation. Good Luck to you.

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Ryan in Virginia Beach, Virginia

46 months ago

As for the recent comment about layoffs near the end of July, another layoff occurred this week at the EDS in Chesapeake Virginia.

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Ryan in Virginia Beach, Virginia

46 months ago

Missthangythang EDS in TULSA, Oklahoma said: Once hired on with a temp service for EDS, does anyone ever get a pay raise within the first year??????They start out at 11.00hr....And once EDS decideds to hire you on can I negotiate salary, or do they usually continue to pay 11.00hr?

What is an average salary for some working tech support for EDS?

I am guessing that tech support reps probably make more than 11.00 per hour.

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Missthangythang EDS in TULSA, Oklahoma

46 months ago

If possible can employees of the EDS form post position title and salary and any exp or education…I would like to have something internal to go by when its time for me to sign on directly to EDS..

Entry level -I’m tech support through temp…11.00hr
IT College Grad….I know that’s extremely low pay to be college grad but Its hard to find companies that will give entry level, no previous employment experience a chance… So basically EDS is for the experience.

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Ryan in Virginia Beach, Virginia

46 months ago

As for the layoffs that have occured in the recent past at the EDS of
Chesapeake, VA, I do not see how EDS meets the service level requirements of their clients. I know that they are not servicing clients such as HMS Host or Avon.

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Dune in Woodbury, New Jersey

46 months ago

Ryan in Virginia Beach, Virginia said: As for the layoffs that have occured in the recent past at the EDS of
Chesapeake, VA, I do not see how EDS meets the service level requirements of their clients. I know that they are not servicing clients such as HMS Host or Avon.

Actually, as I know it both HMS Host and Avon have been gone for quite some time. We used to do work for both of them in my location, however neither is an active client as of several months ago. They both chose not to renew their contracts.

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mountainman in Ogden, Utah

46 months ago

Ryan in Virginia Beach, Virginia said: I am guessing that tech support reps probably make more than 11.00 per hour.

Really? Is that all? If so I'm sad to say that you're better off working for Walmart then, at least they give raises and bonuses every year. How could they expect to pay anyone with a college degree only $11/hour... that's only a few scant dollars above current minimum wage.

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mountainman in Ogden, Utah

46 months ago

Missthangythang EDS in TULSA, Oklahoma said: Once hired on with a temp service for EDS, does anyone ever get a pay raise within the first year??????They start out at 11.00hr....And once EDS decideds to hire you on can I negotiate salary, or do they usually continue to pay 11.00hr?

What is an average salary for some working tech support for EDS?

well...cant speak for starting salaries, but as far as pay raises go even good experienced perm. employees with years of service under their belt are lucky to see one single 4% salary increase about every 2+ years (and thats if they're really lucky)

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Ryan in Virginia Beach, Virginia

46 months ago

The attendance policy at EDS is something else. If a person takes the family medical leave act time off and then misses other time due to sickness or a death in the family then he or she runs the risk of losing a job at EDS. It seems like an employee is basically being punished for taking care of family related emergencies.

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Eric in Frisco, Texas

46 months ago

I can relate to this I got phenomena and I was asked to come into my boss’s office where I was integrated for 2 solid hours as to why I was not at work and to be 100% office, I was soo upset and sick to my stomach from answering questions I honestly had tears in my eyes. As a man I have never felt so low or worthless in my entire life.

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Bert in Virginia Beach, Virginia

46 months ago

It has been known for some time that EDS has been going through some restructuring since recent layoffs.

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happyAZpigNpoop in Charleston, South Carolina

46 months ago

Its often necessary at EDS for this to occur to ensure that inflated salaries at the top levels are maintained. For more information regarding this call 1-800-Dck-Brwn.

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Bert in Virginia Beach, Virginia

46 months ago

I was told recently about an EDS employee having to receive a severence package.

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Han in Virginia Beach, Virginia

46 months ago

It seems like the Chesapeake Virginia EDS has been having a lot of meetings during the last 3 weeks. That may be due to the restructure in its staff. I think more layoffs are coming.

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Stop the madness in Southern, New Jersey

46 months ago

Rumour has it the 9/1 round of layoffs have been pushed up to sometime in August.

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Merger in Tulsa, Oklahoma

46 months ago

Hmmmm....well, in Tulsa layoffs are occurring as we speak.

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Han in Virginia Beach, Virginia

46 months ago

Well, as for the layoff at the Chesapeake Virginia office, I heard that there will be some layoffs in August.

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Missthangythang EDS in TULSA, Oklahoma

46 months ago

Ive only been at EDS for a few days and have already had the experience of meeting someone one day, and hearing they got laid off the next....

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Han in Virginia Beach, Virginia

46 months ago

The Chesapeake Virginia office had layoffs this week.

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anotherscreen in Royal Oak, Michigan

46 months ago

Missthangythang EDS in TULSA, Oklahoma said: Ive only been at EDS for a few days and have already had the experience of meeting someone one day, and hearing they got laid off the next....

I would have "celebrated" my 8 years at EDS in another month.

WFR took me out yesterday.

At least the wait is now over. I had my first good night's sleep in months.

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anotherscreen in Royal Oak, Michigan

46 months ago

Let me be clear. WFR means "Work Force Reduction".

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anotherscreen in Royal Oak, Michigan

46 months ago

Eric in Plano, Texas said: I have two words for these layoffs in EDS BEST SHORE!!!

That's three words. :)

I had a catagory for metrics containing restores called "GM nonbestshore"

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yourfriend in Anaheim, California

46 months ago

Latest rumor is that there will be a 20% across the board reduction. Anyone know if this is true? Who is safest? I would imagine anyone with a Security Clearance and on a government contract (Dept of HLS, NAVY, etc) would be untouchable. I'm a consultant with a few highly sought after certifications and much experience but I feel quite vulnerable because I'm not on a gov't assignment... and because I earn a decent salary (i.e. fair market value, not underpaid like others). On the surface, they'd save by putting my head on the chopping block.

In the past, has EDS complied with the WARN Act? I know each state has specific rules in regards to the WARN Act... Is there any kind of severance pay? If yes, how much? (i.e. any courtesy bonus for years served? above what the law calls for) Is there any kind of advance warning? If so, how much?

Yeah, "best shore". That term gets the Double Speak award of the year.

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MIrrors in southern, New Jersey

46 months ago

WARN LAW

In my state they DID NOT. I know one location that did not lay off 10% (more like 9%) of the workforce so they were under the state, but not the FED nationwide.

The severance package had the small print not to sue, but if there is class action started, and I feel the will be, I will gladly sign up, And give them back their severance pay.

I am one of the lucky ones, got hit the firt round way back in April. Then I saw the HP deal and knew I was ablek to slee pat nights knowing it was NOT me, but personialities trying to save their own butts, and were threatened by those who did their jobs.

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Han in Virginia Beach, Virginia

46 months ago

I do not think that EDS can meet their service levels regarding the calls in the queue because EDS does not hire enough people to do the work. The layoffs would basically mean more calls waiting in the queue and less calls being answered per minute.

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Merger in Tulsa, Oklahoma

46 months ago

Numbers our leaders gave us from last week round of layoffs was around 2,000 EDS wide and about 100 in the Central Hub. The financial goal was $1-2Mil (of course everyone was thinking the same thing here. we all know where we could cut that much and a whole lot more and save 2,000 jobs), not sure if this was the Hub, account or EDS wide. They also said it was NOT due to performance, only financial was the reason for the layoffs.

Just relaying some info from Tulsa...

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Han in Virginia Beach, Virginia

46 months ago

I guess that the recent comment was about EDS having financial or budget problems.

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Ben in Virginia Beach, Virginia

46 months ago

It seems that there has been more empty seats at EDS than there has been in a long time. Hopefully, some new work projects will be coming.

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Ben in Virginia Beach, Virginia

46 months ago

Recently, EDS announced that their reps are not allowed to have the phone numbers of insurance companies on the walls of their cubicles.

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yourfriend in Anaheim, California

46 months ago

Above someone posted about 9/1 being D-Day in terms of layoffs. And has since been pushed up into August. What I have heard is that those dates are in reference to the HP/EDS merger becoming official and finalized, not necessarily a mass layoff.

Layoffs will be ongoing over the next year or so is what colleagues on my team are speculating.

In terms of the WARN law. I am pretty sure I'm not entitled to a penny or a second's warning despite living in California. Why? I'm a remotely based consultant. You need to be based out of a facility with at least 50 employees, I believe. Last Thursday one of the Project Managers in our group was suddenly let go suddenly, without warning. We have since learned all he received was his last paycheck.

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happyAZpigNpoop in Charleston, South Carolina

46 months ago

EDS' behaviour and treatment of employees give a cause and justification for unions to establish and fluorish. While many unions by no way are without malice and contempt inasmuch as being mis-managed and corrupt themselves, they at least give the individual a means to counter the likewise mis-managed and incompetant corporate fopah.

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happyAZpigNpoop in Charleston, South Carolina

46 months ago

nuts to you in East Berlin, Pennsylvania said: Does anybody remember "forced rankings"? Well they're baaaack.

Hidden in the crap of adding a new PTC category "needs development" and spewing the BS that "we're raising the bar" and aligning performance to business goals ... meaning that if your business group isn't doing well then it MUST have bad performers -also meaning that bad management decisions beyond your control are "your fault" . EDS is informing managers down the chain from goddess Tina, that the bell curve distribution has "expected results" ... in fact "expected results" and "fair and objective rankings" are heaviliy peppered throughout mgmnt materials. However people ... you are the best and brightest ... thats why your're EDS ... what do you think it means? By the why the leaders FAQ already says that its not forced ranking.

Indeed, I remember the "quartiling" fiasco. By default, if places someone in a lower category regardless of how great a performer or individual. Its a RIF tool for sure. The travesty of it was you had imcompetent buffoons assessing and placing excellent competent folks in a sub-par category, perched for plucking to the soup line. A joke indeed.

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happyAZpigNpoop in Charleston, South Carolina

46 months ago

anon in Medford, New Jersey said: After reading these comments, just imagine what Ross Perot would be like as President!

The Cherry Hill, NJ office is always recruiting too. I applied there once and never heard back - thank goodness!

Perot has been out of the EDS picture since 1986 fer cryin' out loud. I'd venture to speculate that many of the situations described herein wouldn't be occurring if he was still associated with the company.

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Jack Mellon in Redwood City, California

46 months ago

I wouldn't be surprised to see any EDS/HP layoffs occur after the merger. HP just reduced their severance package a couple months ago, probably in anticipation of RIFs. They've also just reduced their 401k matching for any employee who joins after 8/1/08 (I assume this will affect all EDS folks).

Legacy HP employees will continue to get 6% matching, while new folks will get 4% (which is still pretty good)...but still, it seems kinda cheesy to have different tiers of 401k matching.

As an HP employee, I was not happy to learn of the acquisition, because I figured that absorbing such a large number of new employees would force HP to look at lowering benefits (again).

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SB57 in Tulsa, Oklahoma

46 months ago

You're lucky to get $11 @ training. I have 12yrs exp & only got $9 going in thru the temp service. Was stuck on the floor for 6 months before getting hired. Was told that they were in a hiring freeze yet everyone else in my training class was getting hired. You are required to work a year before you are 'eligiable' for a raise. That doesn't mean you will get one. I was given a raise when I was hired on to EDS then after a year I was given a 9% raise. But after being there 2 yrs (counting temp) I was only making .55 more than someone with no experience coming out of training. I was one of those that was let go also. I had just left the bankruptcy atty and within 2 hrs I was escorted out the door. At least I was able to clear out my things.

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Missthangythang EDS in TULSA, Oklahoma

46 months ago

SB57 in Tulsa, Oklahoma said: You're lucky to get $11 @ training. I have 12yrs exp & only got $9 going in thru the temp service. Was stuck on the floor for 6 months before getting hired. Was told that they were in a hiring freeze yet everyone else in my training class was getting hired. You are required to work a year before you are 'eligiable' for a raise. That doesn't mean you will get one. I was given a raise when I was hired on to EDS then after a year I was given a 9% raise. But after being there 2 yrs (counting temp) I was only making .55 more than someone with no experience coming out of training. I was one of those that was let go also. I had just left the bankruptcy atty and within 2 hrs I was escorted out the door. At least I was able to clear out my things.

If you dont mind me asking what did they start paying you after you where hired on directly...And where u able to negotiate?????????

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Franz in Virginia Beach, Virginia

46 months ago

In regard to the prior comment, each temp starts at 11.00/hour and there will be probably no pay increases this year until the merger or sale with HP becomes final.

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Ben in Virginia Beach, Virginia

46 months ago

In regard to prior comments, temps start at 11.00 per hour

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Lost in Paradise in Northfield, Illinois

46 months ago

I was notified of my pending layoff in April and given 30 days.

It's kinda hard to walk someone out of their own house!

I was lucky, management broadcast that I was going to be laid off months before it happened, they were also gracious and gave me 30 days notice.

I had plenty of time to get things in order. Spent a couple of months tuning my resume and interview skill before I nailed a good job.

EDS is the type of company that will take years off of your life. Best thing that anyone can do is get on short term disability and take 5 months off to get their life in order. EDS has a very generous Short Term Disability! Get the blood pressure down, take a couple of interviews, spend time with the family and get those projects done around the house. Then when you come back to work you know that in the next round of layoff's your gone! Still it won't matter, you've gotten you house in order.

EDS is toxic, getting laid off from them is a good thing

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Stop the madness in Southern, New Jersey

46 months ago

The next layoffs in Ehro (EDS) are scheduled for 8/31. Batten down the hatches once more!

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MIrrors in southern, New Jersey

46 months ago

I am so glad I was one of the first laid off, way back on April 22,2008.

I am not sweating out the possibility of being laid off and shaking in my boots, looking for another job, while working in an iffy situation

For some of those still working there--- they deserve the insecurity. For others, I hope they stay and are rewarded for their high work ethic.

Lastly I have been looking in other arenas and the jobs are few and far between. Good thing my state has the federal unemployment extemsion.

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Mr D- in Washington, District of Columbia

46 months ago

Has anyone heard of anything going on at EDS Herndon?
I've heard they are moving all of us from the DC office to the Herndon office and other offices may be consolidating as well (guess it saves a few bucks).
Haven't heard of layoffs here yet. Anyone heard anything?

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Ben in Virginia Beach, Virginia

46 months ago

I am wondering if the next round of layoffs are due to EDS having less clients. Some of the teams at the EDS Chesapeake office have reduced their workforce.

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Stop the madness in Southern, New Jersey

46 months ago

I can only speak for EDS/EHRO but the upcoming layoffs as well as the ones planned for 12/31 are due to the numerous teams with deconverting clients. If new business doesn't come in the door, clearly we don't need as many people.

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Lost in Paradise in Northfield, Illinois

46 months ago

How much of the loss of clients and the difficulty in getting more business in the door is not due to the high dependence on off shore staff? Combine this with the reality that the profit margin is dropping as off shore staff start demanding more money. The simple reality is that there are only so many companies that are willing to let thier business information be off shored. When this is complicated by the various EU laws regarding off shoring of data it makes one ask the question. Has the off shoring of IT jobs reached it's zenith and will the bubble burst sending jobs back into this country. With this will major outscouring companies start struggling to find local employees from a reduced labor pool that they destroyed?

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The BORG in Virginia

45 months ago

Recently it was discussed that 1/2 of the DC offices will be moving to the Herndon campus. This is to help EDS save money. The move should occur before the end of this year.

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Mr D- in Washington, District of Columbia

45 months ago

Thanks for the update Borg. Latest word I hear from my Herndon buddies is that EDS Herndon will be having layoffs Thursday and Friday (Aug 21 and 22).

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exeds in Downers Grove, Illinois

45 months ago

Got the call today from my manager, he said to look for the papers on Thursday. No exact numbers but Thursday morning is going to have a lot of pink slips through out EDS. So- Long EDS.

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Jessie Kriste in Denver, Colorado

45 months ago

This is a test to prove that anyone can post under any name here.

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MIrrors in southern, New Jersey

45 months ago

Just heard (for sure) they are beinging back temps (they let go a few months ago) to the Call center for Open Enrollment. They start on Monday.

Also hired over 25 temps for one Call Center

Should be interesting to see who is gone (I asked him to check on thosefew that I said good morning to, when I was employed).

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