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sofs07 in Minneapolis, Minnesota 50 months ago |
Hopeful in London, I thought I would reply via the forum in case anyone else finds the info helpful.
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Chuck Rogers in Denver, Colorado 50 months ago |
I didn't give a good presentation speech of myself. I'm attending law school for taxes, for a master of taxation, and will be asserting myself for speaking in front of an audience. I'll have the ability to talk with a good argumentive skill that most people don't have without attending law school. I haven't found that toastmaster club out here in Denver. If you know of any public speaking clubs in Denver please tell me about it. Thanks |
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Judy in Lake Forest, California 50 months ago |
ChuckJ ChuckJ in Savannah, Georgia said: I actually studied ahead and took my Series 7 a week early. Made a 86..not so shabby. I have some killer Series 7 and Series 66 notes that y'all can have if you'll post your emails. They are like Crib notes for all the Chapters. Great stuff.. Hi, Chuck! I have been following this site as began learning about Edward Jones. I have applied and I am now working my way through the process. Thank-you for your postings here - all your input has been incredibly helpful. This entire site is a blessing! I would love to have your notes on the Series 7 and 66, too! My email is skyofblue4u@yahoo.com. Thank-you for the notes, and thanks again for all your helpful information!! :) |
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Mr Sales in Chicago, Illinois 50 months ago |
JParks in St. Augustine, Florida said: How'd your interview go this morning? Can you share some of the questions you were asked? I thought it went well. It was more of a conversation, very basic. He started with a warm up, casual conversation. He then asked me mainly questions about my application to make sure it was correct. He asked me why I wanted to be a financial advisor. I am currently enrolled in college part time working on a finance degree, he asked if I had a problem taking a break from school to be a part of edwrad jones as learning the job would be intensive. I am currently a Licensed mortage broker and he asked if I would have a problem putting my license on inactive while working for edward jones, you can't work part time. I scheduled a office visit prior to this interview. He stated he wanted to schedule another office visit with a different advisor that I could spend more time with to learn about the job. He asked if I had any questions and that was pretty much it. My phone call lasted about 30 min as opposed to the 60. Please let me know if I could help you with any more questions. |
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ChuckJ ChuckJ in Savannah, Georgia 50 months ago |
Judy (and anyone wanting the notes I've mentioned)...I'll be happy to send the notes to anyone who wants them. However, I just don't have the time to check the forums, cut and paste emails, and send notes every day. So..anyone wanting the notes can email me at chuckchuckj@gmail.com and I will reply back with the notes as an attachment. I'll be happy to answer questions as well..just be advised that my busy schedule may make the replies a little late. Thanks, Chuck PS..Weather in Florida is wonderful. Great for door knocking. |
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Judy in Lake Forest, California 50 months ago |
ChuckJ ChuckJ in Savannah, Georgia said: Judy (and anyone wanting the notes I've mentioned)...I'll be happy to send the notes to anyone who wants them. However, I just don't have the time to check the forums, cut and paste emails, and send notes every day. So..anyone wanting the notes can email me at chuckchuckj@gmail.com and I will reply back with the notes as an attachment. I'll be happy to answer questions as well..just be advised that my busy schedule may make the replies a little late. Thanks, Chuck PS..Weather in Florida is wonderful. Great for door knocking. Thank-you Chuck! I wish you the best of luck with your door knocking!! |
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JParks in St. Augustine, Florida 50 months ago |
Does anyone know the details on the Tuition Reimbursement at Edward Jones? I read on their website that Tuition Reimbursement is one of the benefits for Financial Advisors. Is this just for classes to get designations, or would it be for an MBA, or would it even cover a second undergrad degree? Thanks! |
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ChuckJ ChuckJ in Savannah, Georgia 50 months ago |
Tuition reimbursement kicks in after a year or so I think. It covers most anything. To be honest, it's not something I've ever heard of a FA doing for the simple reason that if you're doing the job well enough to keep the job, then you're putting in 60+ hours a week. Doesn't leave much time for going to classes. |
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E-Rod in Las Vegas, Nevada 50 months ago |
START DATE OF 03/03/2008 SOOO ive been gone from here for a while who in here is in my class?? im Ernest from Las Vegas and im not good with the whole wires and chat things on the EJ so maybe one of you can teach me ive been consumed with studying and havent had the time to play around with that stuff too much..let me know thanks:) Ernest |
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E-Rod in Las Vegas, Nevada 50 months ago |
Also how many of you in here are in your early 20's?? im 23..22 when I initially applied and im excited to get an early start here at Edward Jones. From what I hear its a financially rewarding career if you put in your time and efforts. |
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JD Cooper in Green Bay, Wisconsin 50 months ago |
Just got hired, official start date is May 05. Anybody else going to St. Louis on July 14 for KYC training? |
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lynne b in Dillon, Colorado 50 months ago |
The EJ Financial Advisor Opportunity in a nutshell How to get hired: Talk to several FAs and have one recommend you. We get incentives for having you hired. If the process seems rediculous / disorganized and you get the run around- well that is how home office works- ALWAYS. It is not intentional, EJ home office is a giant, mass of untrained beureaucratic people who are sorting thousands of pieces of paper and consider their job accomplished if they process their paper- regarless if it is correct. Last year I tried to hire a BOA and had an ad out for months. They sent me THE three applicants that I sent them! They told qualified applicants the job was filled and it wasn't. I've been with the company 3 years. It has been terrible. Peers of mine are on antidepressents, one considered suicide. Yep. Try working lots of hours only to take home 35K with the lowest payout in the industry, highest sales goals and mysterious overhead and expenses that are pulled out of your check. If someone doesn't pay their IRA fee, YOU pay it. If your BOA places erroneous trades and there is market loss, YOU PAY it. YOU Pay all the postage for tomes of legally required mail. These expenses are left out of their financial calculation and are excluded from their earnings calculator on their recruiting website. EJ was recently sued for misleading recruits on actual earnings and for not reimbursing expenses. They lost/settled and have changed some of their policies. The training that Jones values at 100K+ consists of a few cheesy lines: Knock Knock How did I catch you at home today? OR I think you should buy this stock, it pays a blank dividend and the company makes xxxx products. IF YOU HAVE THE MONEY AVAILABLE, YOU SHOULD BUY SOME TODAY! This does not prepare you to be a financial advisor, you have to learn everything on your own. This is a great job for someone right out of college with no working experience and NO FAMILY/LIFE. Good luck! |
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Newbie in Naples in Naples, Florida 50 months ago |
Lynne,
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Newbie in Naples in Naples, Florida 50 months ago |
For those of you who want a non-biased view of how Edward Jones stacks up against its competition, view the Registered Rep Magazine's 2007 Annual Report Card: registeredrep.com/mag/finance_registered_reps_broker/index.html In 2006, Jones had an impressive lead overall and in almost all categories (including "Ongoing Training") See also Fortune 500's List of "100 Best Companies to Work For": www.mutual-funds.us/magazines/fortune/bestcompanies/2008/snapshots/4.html Notice that last year 422,102 people applied for jobs with Jones (yes-nearly a quarter million people!) Perhaps that might explain how a mixup with a mere 3 applicants could arise. One should also note an even more impressive fact . . . of those 422,102 "hopefuls", only 1,182 new jobs were created. That's appoximately 3 out of every 1,000 actually got a job! The statistics don't state how few of those were FA positions, but regardless, this shows that only the "creme-of-the-crop" get in. Then there's the training! Count on working 50-90 hrs per week during the first 2 months (including orientation, conference calls, regional meetings on the other side of the state, and oh yes -STUDYING!) The next level of "weeding out" is the Series 7 Exam. You get only one chance to pass or your out! National statistics say that around HALF of all people do NOT get a passing score of 70% or above their first time. Don't worry, if you fail you can always go to work for someone else and retake the test. But, EJ proudly produces a 90% pass rate (far above the nat'l avg.!) After the Series 7, there's also the Series 66, which is equally demanding in a different way. Finally, the Insurance License (a cake-walk compared to all else). The next major "weeding out" is the successive 8-12 months after the "Can Sell" Date when you will be expected to create a client base of 1,000 accounts. Someone told me that half of the new FAs drop out in this stage. THEN, you get your office! |
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Newbie in Naples in Naples, Florida 50 months ago |
< continued from previous post . . .> I heard that Year #2 "weeds out" another 25-50% of the new FA's who just can't take the constant demand to meet "another 25 quality clients" EVERY day five days a week. As Lynne has illustrated, even in Year #3 people continue to get discouraged and drop out. Like an Iron Man tri-athlete who collapses in the final mile of the marathon run, this sounds like a sad end to a grueling struggle to succeed. Yet, it all goes to show why the few who do survive, thrive! At the end, "Survival-of-the-Fittest" results in nothing but a very select group of top performers. After reading this, most of you may seriously wonder if this is the right choice for you. If you have any doubt whatsoever, then the answer is clearly "NO". You should apply ONLY IF you are 100% clear up front what it's going to take AND you are 100% committed to endure through thick & thin AND you are 100% confident that you will succeed. Otherwise, you probably won't even get past the first couple interviews. As a final visual metaphor, you should thoroughly assess your abilities, the distance to the other side, and how deep is the hole BEFORE you jump. Then, if you leap only half way, don't expect to make it to the other side! Good luck to all who do try, I hope to meet some of you on the other side! |
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Newbie in Naples in Naples, Florida 50 months ago |
P.S. Guess who's ranked #1 for 14 consecutive years in the Registered Rep Magazine's Report Card AND who has won J.D. Power & Associates award for "Highest in Investor Satisfaction With Full Service Brokerage Firms" for 3 years straight! For a partial list of other awards (not updated to reflect all current awards): www.edwardjones.com/cgi/getHTML.cgi?page=/USA/different/awards.html YES, I'm proud to be in and YES, I think the struggle to survive is worth it! |
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Bribkc in Richmond, Virginia 50 months ago |
I just wanted to say good luck to any other new EJ FAs like me out there who start studying tomorrow! "Hopeful", I know you're one of them, so good luck to you. In regards to the tuition reimbursement EJ offers, they will reimburse up to $5,000 per calendar year, per the program guidelines. If you need additional information, speak with your recruiter. Lynne, thanks for the input. This thread occasionally needs an opposing opinion to get people thinking. With that said, it sounds like you should really look for another job. I imagine that is what you are already doing since at 3 years in, your training contract has been fulfilled. Unlike Newbie, this is not the first (or 91st) negative opinion I have heard of EJ, and I don't doubt that you are (or were) an FA with them. I appreciate knowing about the hidden expenses and I fully expect sales training to be chock full of cheesy lines. But people this is what you need to remember: THIS IS A SALES JOB. Let's take a minute to let that sink in... Yes, they call you a financial advisor, but you need clients first. The only way to get clients is to get off your butt and find them. Yes, it can be degrading, cheesy, and take up all your waking hours, but (say it with me now)... THIS IS A SALES JOB! And you know what? EJ offers some of the best support and training in the industry. |
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Newbie in Naples in Naples, Florida 50 months ago |
Perhaps my perception may be skewed by the fact that all the FA's I know personally have been very successful and very happy. True, I happen to be located in the #2 Market of the entire US, but the truth is, I just recently moved from Michigan, where I was an EJ customer for the past 10 years. My FA is one such successful & happy veteran whom I got to know quite well on a personal basis. True, I've read some negative comments from strangers on this and other forums, but I have yet to hear criticism from people I know personally. It's not to say I won't ever hear any nor it's not to say I may never have a few gripes of my own to air. I AM a realist & I expect that it's not all going to be a happy fairy-tale adventure. I must also agree that Lynne's comments add a healthy balance to the comments of this site. I do hope I did not appear to have come across as negative towards her. I just wanted to provide a rebuttal on behalf of Edward Jones based on facts and let the readers decide what they wish. In addition, my main objective was to make it clear that this lifestyle is not meant for everyone and not everyone should consider taking on this kind of challenge without careful consideration of what this monumental undertaking realistically entailes. Congratulations and good luck to you Bribkc and all the others who are just starting! |
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a1 in Rowland Heights, California 50 months ago |
couple things for those who consider to be a FA for EJ;
bottom line, if people feel strong about working forever at EJ, this would be a great choice to make, if not don't even consider about it. |
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Bribkc in Richmond, Virginia 50 months ago |
Ok a1, I can accept EJ bashing if it is well-written and has valid points. Sadly, your post is lacking in both respects. While I'm tempted not to feed the troll here, just for fun, let's review your "points". "1, have to able to close 10-15 cases per month in first 3 years, if not, extra over-time on top of a 60 hour week." First of all, english is your friend. Sweetie, like I said earlier this is a SALES JOB. There are production quotas. How long it takes to meet them is up to the individual. So stop crying and try to take responsibility for your own performance. "2, make 1/4 less of what other FA makes on income" If you're referring to paycheck income, then yes, on this point you are miraculously correct. This is part of the reason why some FA's choose to leave EJ. Other FA's consider it fair trade for the various perks EJ offers them. "3, make sure individual are there for the long run(till retire), once leave EJ; none of the csutomer in book can be sold or transfer" On this point you are absolutely wrong. I know of several FA's who left EJ and took clients with them. You are perfectly within your legal rights to send your clients a letter telling them you have left to go to another company, set out your own shingle, etc... EJ cannot prevent any client from being transfered if that is what the client wishes. Continued... |
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Bribkc in Richmond, Virginia 50 months ago |
"4, be able to accept paying EJ for the first 3 year support up to $60,000 if quit or fire during the first three year" Actually, it's 100,000. And yes, if you leave within the first three years they can come after you to recoup training expenses. It's all spelled out in the contract if you are offered a position. If you don't like it, don't sign the contract. See how easy that is? "5, not able to learn as much as compare to other wirehouse" Actually, the industry agrees that EJ offers the best new FA training you can get anywhere. Maybe this other wirehouse is teaching you how to write using proper english grammar? Not looking good so far... |
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Candidate 12 in Daytona Beach, Florida 50 months ago |
Hello all. This forum has been extrememly informative and I am grateful for it. I appreciate all the positive feedback along with the negative.
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JD Cooper in Green Bay, Wisconsin 50 months ago |
Candidate 12 in Daytona Beach, Florida said: Hello all. This forum has been extrememly informative and I am grateful for it. I appreciate all the positive feedback along with the negative. I was told right away that I was moving forward. However, my sister who is currently working for Edward Jones had to wait a few days. I think it is up to the "recruiter" on the phone as to when they tell you about the next step. |
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a1 in Rowland Heights, California 50 months ago |
Bribkc in Richmond, Virginia said: "4, be able to accept paying EJ for the first 3 year support up to $60,000 if quit or fire during the first three year" Bribkc, Don’t take my word for it, ask your local EJ financial advisors. By the way, when thing sound to good to be true it usually is, Confirmation bias is for individual who's in denial. |
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lynne b in Dillon, Colorado 50 months ago |
Dear Newbie,
I am very proud of how Jones advisors treat our clients but as for Registered Rep surveys- well those are sent to selected FAs . Furthermore if 70 to 85% of the cream of the crop hirees departs Jones, what does that say? These aren't stupid or lazy lackeys. These are people who become dissillusioned. The ONLY FAs in these surveys are the vets, most of whom never worked at any other firm as an FA and earned less than 40K in their previous job. My good friends who are 7 to 8 years out still have to bring in 700 to 1M a month in new money to earn that 6 figure living! (700000 * .03 *.38 payout = 7980/month, less expenses of 600 *12 = 88.5K per year) Throw in trails on 40M Assets U Mgnt and you have 100K/year. That NEVER ends. My main complaint with Jones is that the hiring process is dishonest and the business model is high cost, low efficiency. All our competitors have lead generation programs, such as company retirement plans or banking services. We have door knocking. If you live in a metro area, MOST clients you would want won't do business with someone at their door step. The company tries to self propagate the cult of door knocking among other things. Many successful FAs are in leads groups, chamber, rotary, public speaking arrangements and that is their lead gen. Or they live in small towns where they know everyone anyway. For those of you studying I recall admonishments of don't take exams open book- everyone does and people pass. The 7 is easy. |
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Newbie in Naples in Naples, Florida 50 months ago |
Lynne, Thank your for your candid view from the inside. As I mentioned already, your perspective adds a necessary balance to this forum. I'm quite sure though that there is no perfect place to work and thus I'm not doubting in the least anything that you say. I have to believe that with a little research you could find disgruntled wmployees with an equal list of complaints about their firms. What's most important is that the information is presented such that anyone in the position of having to choose can both sides and make an informed decision. Your input is appreciated. |
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xsquidiam in psl, Florida 50 months ago |
i am with ej right now.....i have series 7 and 66, but i'm not doing well here....what are my options....i work hard but no results yet.... |
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hopeful in london, Kentucky 50 months ago |
Just checking in with all of you out there that started studying along with me on Monday. So far... it's been a busy week! Harder than I actually thought, but getting easier now that I have established studying pattern. Just wanted to see what everyone else thought. Love to here with those that started along with me!!! |
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RomanRoman in Modesto, California 49 months ago |
How are you guys?!!! I am an spanier living in USA for the last 6 years. I have been reading you for long time and in my opinion this forum is very very helpful . I got some questions for you, please help me with it. E.J. has been awarded as: “………. ranked No. 4 on FORTUNE magazine's"100 Best Companies to Work For" listâ€, so this award is base on what parameters? In other words: Why E.J. is one of the best financial companies to work for?
This one is a general question about the professionals in this business: Beside the type of business like E.J. What other position can be available (non Financial Adviser position) for a professional that hold the License Series 7?
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ChuckJ ChuckJ in Savannah, Georgia 49 months ago |
I may be wrong, but you're only libel for the reimbursement of training costs if you quit and take a job in a "like" industry. Being fired has no bearing on the reimbursement. |
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hopeful in london, Kentucky 49 months ago |
ChuckJ, just wondering how your exam totals compared to your actual test score? |
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JD Cooper in Green Bay, Wisconsin 49 months ago |
Anybody else start studying on May 05? |
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sofs07 in Minneapolis, Minnesota 49 months ago |
Hi all! took - and passed! - the series 7 today.
Roman - bienvenido compatriota! :-) de donde eres? Good luck everyone studying!!! don't lose your mind and just think, this is a great time to get to know your neighborhood coffee shop (and their owners!!)
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RomanRoman in Modesto, California 49 months ago |
Congratulations Sofs07 on the success to pass the test for the Series 7.
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Bribkc in Richmond, Virginia 49 months ago |
Congratulations Sofs!! I know what a relief it must be to have it over and done with. I'm coming up on my 4th week of studying and it's kicking my rear end. Good luck on the 66! |
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RomanRoman in Modesto, California 49 months ago |
Dear Sofs07 please, enviame un Email to nmazorra@msn.com I want to comentarte algo importante to me. Thank you. Roman |
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Jim Harrison in Boston, Massachusetts 49 months ago |
Hello Everyone! I just received my offer package and I now must decide if I'm going to take the job.
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ChuckJ ChuckJ in Savannah, Georgia 49 months ago |
Unrealistic? No. Probable? No. I'd say only 5-10 percent of the people pass 35K in the first year. They say to expect 100K in your 3rd year. I'd say that the more realistic number is 5-6 years. Take what ever they tell you and chop off 30-40 percent. Most of the early income they quote you includes some monthly account bonuses that are extremely hard to reach. |
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dks5003 in Tucson, Arizona 49 months ago |
I am graduating this year from the University of Arizona with a degree in Buisness Writing. I have my phone interview with Edward Jones next week and am applying to work in NY, where I'm from. I'm curious as to how they can put someone like me, a twenty one year old, in an office and convience people to trust their money with someone so young. I am great at sales and have done plenty of cold calling through an internship with Merrill Lynch, but I still can't imagine telling a client who asked that I have been an advisor for less than a year and am twenty one and having it work out. Any insight would be apreciated. |
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Pittsburgh Jedd in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 49 months ago |
sofs07 in Minneapolis, Minnesota said: Hi all! took - and passed! - the series 7 today. Sofs07 congrats. I am curious to what your scores were on your chapter and checkup exams. |
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Dmsciort in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina 49 months ago |
I had my final interview tuesday and I am just dying to know the outcome. How long does it normally take to hear something? |
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sunshine rep in vancouver, British Columbia 49 months ago |
Having been an advisor for Edward Jones,I know there is a lot of negativity out there within the company. The "opportunity" is not much different than the "Amway" "opportunity". The "potential" is there.They do have better training than any company I have ever worked for before or after. If you stick with it for five years, it can be a good source of income. But in the beginning, you are NOT an "advisor"-just a product pusher (you need a lot of sales for the crappy commission rate they pay and to cover your overhead of having your own office).Don't expect any kind of life for the first two years-expect to work 6 if not 7 days a week- unless you can convince your spouse to also work at this full time with you (for free). That is the way the business is designed-to have your spouse helping full time.The company expects you to make the quota sales regardless of who in your family may be dying. |
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Jim Harrison in Boston, Massachusetts 49 months ago |
What makes so many people want to work for edward jones or even in the securities business if the first 3-4 years are so brutal and has very little pay?
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49 months ago |
To be hired as an Edward Jones FA, you need to have the ability to communicate, have impeccable organization skills and an unbelievable drive to succeed. Reading your comment, I would not have recommended you for this position. This is a tough job, move on. Yes, I put in a lot of hours into my job, but I always have worked long hours and love to do something that I believe in. As far as the leads are concerned... that you believe to have generated before your interview: you weren't licensed and you were not authorized to ask ANY kind of financial questions, so I am not sure what you were doing there. Instructions are very clear: ask people how long they have lived there, how they like the neighborhood, etc. You can't be serious if you think that your logs were even remotely useful to an Edward Jones FA. |
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49 months ago |
just curious- are you still working for Jones? You sound very angry! hoe long did you last? |
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49 months ago |
C in Chicago, Illinois said: There is tons of money to be made with Edward Jones but the key ingredient, and it is posted on their website, is door knocking. You have to make 25 contacts everyday. I went through my door knocking exercise and it took me 3 hours! Three hours later I made 25 contacts and I knocked on over 100 doors. You deal with people that aren't home, people who have no soliciting on their front doors, and people who basically lie to you in your face. |
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RomanRoman in Modesto, California 49 months ago |
Dear Justdoit33 to be successful in any sales job you have to work a lot, you have to work very serious and you have to put a lot of time far away from your family to make seriuos money so ...... this is a general rule for a salesman with a plan to succeed in any field. Now, Jim Harrison said:
Could be very nice if somebody have a good answer for this. Why?! if soooo many problems for sooo many years?!!!!! Just as example: You can make $8K a month at this moment ( without a lot of experience) selling used european and japanese cars and yor will work 6 days a week AND THE CUSTOMERS COMING TO YOU!
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Warren Buffet in Seattle, Washington 49 months ago |
Hi Lynne -- I started out with Jones and moved to a Wirehouse fifteen years ago (I'm now a branch manager). I'm not going to say anything about Jones, because people become REALLY defensive. But, I will say there is some definite misinformation in some of these postings. Also, there is a huge cultural difference between Jones and the major firms (Smith Barney, Merrill, UBS, Wachovia). Anyway, I was going to suggest that you speak to a major firm. As an example, we have a three-year training program with a salary of 60m a year in addition to your commissions. You don't pay any expenses. We are very selective in who we hire -- I went two-and-a-half years without hiring a trainee (we can't afford the "spaghetti strategy"). We want a minimum of a bachelor's degree and five year's previous business/sales experience. In my branch, nobody is making less than 250m (their take home) a year. I'm passing this on because I went through what you went through, and just because things aren't working out at Jones doesn't mean you're not right for this business. Don't give up. Good luck. |
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Warren Buffet in Seattle, Washington 49 months ago |
My response above was to the Lynn B in Dillon posting on the previous page, and not intended as a recruiting posting or as a posting trying to discourage people here from going to work for Jones. Please don't start a flame war. |
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RomanRoman in Modesto, California 49 months ago |
Warent Buffet my friend, let me know something: This program that you have (three-year training program with a salary of 60m a year in addition to your commissions) is the way your company works for everybody that star with you gays or is this a program that your particular office is runing? By the way, For what company do you work? Thank you in advance.
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