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thehrtruth in Atlanta, Georgia

81 months ago

You are one of many people who are confused about the game of getting hired with the feds. Rule #1, agencies have the autonomy to manuever (manipulate) the system to hire what-is-supposed-to-be-the-best qualified person or (s). OPM does it best to monitor the rules but there are so many avenues for hiring managers to use. First and foremost, HR is only there is facilitate the hiring process. They have no power to make decisions. Their job is to act as a laison between the applicants and the hiring manager. Couple of tips....

1.) being placed on the list is great but if you dont hear anything within 30 days - the hiring manager is probably not going to use the list. Thats right. They can choose to recruit from another source. Than, you have wasted all your time writing KSA's for nothing.

2.) Some agencies have moved from a rating score system (0-100) to a catagorical system (qualified, well qualified, and best qualified). Regardless of being placed on a list - it means nothing until you are called for an interview. (hate to spread the bad news to you)

Hope this helps.....

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sdgal in South Dakota

81 months ago

Thanks everybody, just have to wait and see. I just couldn't figure out how I was not qualified and then I was unless they didn't have anybody else and reviewed my app again so that made me qualified in the second go.

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jagman298 in Red Lion, Pennsylvania

78 months ago

The federal employment process is truly a joke. I get turned down again yet for another federal position, something that I was more than qualified for. Having veterans preference, why bother it doesn't really seem to make any difference what so ever. Here I am unemployed for over a year now, no hopes in the horizon. I've done everything I can think of to find a job, got all the education, experience, but no job. What else is there left to do?

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jagman298 in Red Lion, Pennsylvania

76 months ago

Spacecowboy,

It's a shame that supervisorers feel so inferior to those people that spent the time to educate themselves. The worst thing I have experienced is that a federal agency I interviewed with basically didn't give me a job offer because I hadn't performed legal research for three years after leaving the military even though prior to leaving the military I had over 15 years worth of legal research experience. The answer this federal agency should've gave was that they already had some in mind for this position, that would've been better than giving me the poor excuse they did. I also think that it's a shame that federal agencies have a bias against disabled veterans. It is true they get a disability check but last time I checked the disability checks aren't enough to feed a family on and unemployment doesn't pay that much. I guess federal agencies like seeing all of those homeless veterans out there while their all driving to their nice warm home and don't have to worry about where their next meal is coming from. I guess disabled veterans service to this country doesn't really matter at the end of the day and shame on you if you go out and get a education. Wake up federal agencies not every educated veteran is out to get your nob nor are they going to just do their probationary time and then move on. Maybe, just maybe these veterans just want to serve their country again. Maybe those scared supervisors out there that are intimidated by educated veterans should all just be terminated and get someone in there that actually has a backbone and want to employ the best qualified applicant that will help that federal agency meet their operational goals and serve their country honorably and ethically once again.

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Richard6959 in Colorado Springs, Colorado

71 months ago

When an applicant is referred to the hiring manager, are there any limits on how many applicants get referred at a time? If 25 are screened and found to be highly qualified are all 25 referred?

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job hunter in Seaside, California

70 months ago

I am a veteran and been applying for civilian positions and so far no luck. most cases hiring manager already knows who to hire. I belive even for the governemnt jobs its all about who you know. I don't know if you are all aware but the Army jobs website has also recently changed. www.armycivilianservices.com is their new website and you can search for local or international jobs there. I have been applying for jobs all over the country but veterans preference doent mean shhhhtttt I guess. Good luck to all.

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sdgal in South Dakota

70 months ago

job hunter in Seaside, California said: I am a veteran and been applying for civilian positions and so far no luck. most cases hiring manager already knows who to hire. I belive even for the governemnt jobs its all about who you know. I don't know if you are all aware but the Army jobs website has also recently changed. www.armycivilianservices.com is their new website and you can search for local or international jobs there. I have been applying for jobs all over the country but veterans preference doent mean shhhhtttt I guess. Good luck to all.

Well the way the government is right now I am sure I don't want a government job just to get laid off or furloughed.
They are soooooooooo messed up, I applied for a warehouse position at the base and was suppose to get a interview and never did hear back. Another job that I was qualified for and knew the hiring person even, his boss was told by his boss that the Wing commander told him to hire this friend of his for the position. So yeah the federal hiring system needs to be cleaned out and cleaned up. I am currently working for a private trucking company using my military training, it is part time but hopefully full time later on. Good luck to all and God Bless

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SpaceCwboy in Norcross, Georgia

70 months ago

Richard6959 in Colorado Springs, Colorado said: When an applicant is referred to the hiring manager, are there any limits on how many applicants get referred at a time? If 25 are screened and found to be highly qualified are all 25 referred?

I've been kind of "keeping tabs" of the hiring process where I'm at for the last few months. Quite a few are referred. Now, as far as getting into an interview, that number is about a third of the referrals. They do not have the time to interview all 25, so more than likely 5-7 are interviewed (unless there are multiple vacancies). This is why I state the interview process seems to be the most important.

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SpaceCwboy in Norcross, Georgia

70 months ago

sdgal in South Dakota said: Well the way the government is right now I am sure I don't want a government job just to get laid off or furloughed.
They are soooooooooo messed up, I applied for a warehouse position at the base and was suppose to get a interview and never did hear back. Another job that I was qualified for and knew the hiring person even, his boss was told by his boss that the Wing commander told him to hire this friend of his for the position. So yeah the federal hiring system needs to be cleaned out and cleaned up. I am currently working for a private trucking company using my military training, it is part time but hopefully full time later on. Good luck to all and God Bless

That's why I applied to a field I knew was pretty safe (VA..120B spending budget this year). Keep trying and don't give up. My coworkers couldn't believe how many applications I sent out before I was hired (a lot of them never had to go through this process like you and I). Due to recent changes, it seems to be hard for civilians without prior military history to get in (unless it is a specialty occupation). Disabled vets are now given much more seniority in the hiring process (believe it or not...even than before).

Once you get in, you'll realize it is a "mafia type" mentality (who you know). Forget the hiring process, this mentality even applies to your job (getting things done, etc). I'm pretty sure everyone who has a government job can attest to this.

Here's a tip: Concentrate on the "rural areas". Your chances are greatly increased. I understand driving an hour or 2 everyday to work is horrible, but in a year (or sooner depending on your agency and their needs) you can apply for a transfer. If your transfer doesn't happen....apply to a different agency. Remember...the trick is getting in the door!! Like everyone will tell you..."Once you're in...you're in". Mob mentality again! LOL!

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SpaceCwboy in Norcross, Georgia

70 months ago

One last thing: Don't apply for a job "just to get in". I know a lot of Canteen Services people that have been applying for jobs for years. No offense against Canteen Workers (they bust their *ss and I personally believe between them and the Custodial staff, they are the hardest working people in federal government. Their pay is borderline illegal. lol). However, when applying for another position, this seems to be "frowned upon". I know few that have actually moved on, but it takes a lot of "networking". You are not going to make $10 an hour and suddenly make $40,000 a year. It's like the military. you know the PAC SSG is never going to be promoted to 1SG or CSM of a Unit. It happens, but after years of hard work and determination (and you don't have the time nor the budget to wait that long).

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CYA in Fairfax, Virginia

59 months ago

I second that with SpaceCwboy. 'Getting your foot in the door' doesn't apply always. Our front office receptionist was out 2 weeks ago and I covered the place for him. Two guys came in (mid-level for other divisions) and gave me a quick cursory nod and one guy commented, "You are always here doing this. Apply for more meaningful job within the agency." Hello!? As if being a secretary isn't a serious job. The other guy just smirked and said to him, "Man, he is good at being a secretary, don't rock the boat trying to bring a new face." It's unfortunate but some people don't believe in hiring from within just of certain positions holding now!

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jna115 in Port Jervis, New York

57 months ago

I put in for an intelligence position for the Air Force at about 6 different locations. They all referred my application to the hiring manager. Im a retired NYPD Detective Squad Sergeant with a degree. Do I have a shot or is it like a previous post where someone stated they already know who they are going to hire? Just want to know if Im wasting my time.

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jna115 in Port Jervis, New York

57 months ago

Hope my comment when through

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jna115 in Port Jervis, New York

57 months ago

The email actually stated is they want me I will get an email with an "offer".. What no interview? Is it because its as an intern. Do interns get paid? Not sure.

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Rick in Cathedral City, California

57 months ago

jna115 in Port Jervis, New York said: The email actually stated is they want me I will get an email with an "offer".. What no interview? Is it because its as an intern. Do interns get paid? Not sure.

I was just hired as an intern for the Dept. of the Navy as a Contracts Specialist. They sent me a letter telling me that they found me qualified and that they were forwarding my package to the hiring manager. A few days letter I received a call followed by a follow up email; setting a time for an interview. DO NOT DO A PHONE INTERVIEWS….make sure you show up face to face. They offered me a phone interview but I flew from California to D.C. I was told by one of the HR reps that they do not like hiring over the phone.
After the interview 4 days later I received a call indicating that I was selected and asking me if I would like to accept the position….then they gave me a few different start dates to choose.
Hope this helps….

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Rick in Cathedral City, California

57 months ago

jna115 in Port Jervis, New York said: The email actually stated is they want me I will get an email with an "offer".. What no interview? Is it because its as an intern. Do interns get paid? Not sure.

Yes Interns get paid...the intern position that I was hired for goes from GS 7 (42k)to GS 12 (76k) in 36 months...

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tgeorge in Owings Mills, Maryland

53 months ago

[Did you get in, did your investigation go through, Im nervous as well?

QUOTE who="manbesam martinez in Tampa, Florida"]Swaine, Yes Im a USMC veteran (10% disabled).

Well like you said earlier I've gotten this far by knowing somebody, a girl I went to college with put me in touch with the lady i'll hopefully be working for soon. She actually put me in touch with her back in sept. but the job itself was recently posted feb.18, closed on the 24th. I was given a tentative offer on the 2nd or 3rd of March. Shortley after the offer I was sent an email directing me to the Civilian AFPC site to fill out some pre-employment paperwork.
Since then I have spoken, at length, with my future boss on the phone about my duties and such.
Aside from selecting me for the position my FB(future boss) really has no control over the hiring process.

Im just such a worry wart, all these "what if's" keep running thru my mind.

On one hand I keep thinking that if ive made it this far than my background has already been looked into and now it's just a paper shuffle...but on the other hand i remember reading "if any suitibility issues come up this offer may withdrawn".
Would my credit be seen as a suitibility issue? Even though my job is not money related, nor does it require a security clearance?

Thanks for you feedback.

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tgeorge in Owings Mills, Maryland

53 months ago

Did you get in? I received tentative offer just checked my credit score, medical bills paid off but were late, bankruptcy 7 yrs ago,

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susan in Columbus, Georgia

45 months ago

Every single time I have applied for a job in the Federal Government and not gotten it, I lost out to either a verteran or a person who had a good connection. It was fairly easy to find out who did get the jobs and they were far less intelligient than I, less educated and gave a less than professional appearance. A friend of mine was interviewed by a guy who got a job I had applied for and couldn't believe this moron got any job, much less this one. He conducted the interview by simply reading off a sheet and reading pooly.

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gregor.ivenz@*****.*** in Honolulu, Hawaii

44 months ago

Just got a Tentative job offer to work for the Army in a GS position during a hiring freeze because the agency I interviewed has been able to prove that my job is mission essential. Just completed all of the paper work except for the physical. I have a active Confidential Security Clearance from working with the Navy and CPAC has told me that my clearance is good to go. Does anyone know how much longer it will take?

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MariaN in Bloomfield, New Jersey

42 months ago

Let me tell you I am sick and tired of the bs that goes on with the USAJobs hiring process. I have been applying for some time, finally got referred and they turned back the certifications and the job was reposted. I bet you that I'll never hear from them again even though I was referred the first time. Every time I visit a fed or state office, I say to myself "I can easily do that", screw everything up. But I would work hard. Isn't that stupid, work for a living. But this is not acceptable for USA jobs, they rather hire their own people. Nepotism anyone? The job market sucks, I've been unemployed and collecting crappy unemployment benefits. Don't get me wrong I am grateful but this USA jobs thing has to stop. It's wrong!!!!!! So many people qualify and would do such a great job but I guess that's what they don't want.

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Bluetea in Texas

42 months ago

MariaN in Bloomfield, New Jersey said: Let me tell you I am sick and tired of the bs that goes on with the USAJobs hiring process. I have been applying for some time, finally got referred and they turned back the certifications and the job was reposted. I bet you that I'll never hear from them again even though I was referred the first time. Every time I visit a fed or state office, I say to myself "I can easily do that", screw everything up. But I would work hard. Isn't that stupid, work for a living. But this is not acceptable for USA jobs, they rather hire their own people. Nepotism anyone? The job market sucks, I've been unemployed and collecting crappy unemployment benefits. Don't get me wrong I am grateful but this USA jobs thing has to stop. It's wrong!!!!!! So many people qualify and would do such a great job but I guess that's what they don't want.

USAJOBS? Are you kidding? They said on the radio once that there are over 80 million apps on file! That is some serious competition.

You either need to have a father who is a Congressman or all the luck in the world.

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MariaN in Bloomfield, New Jersey

42 months ago

Bluetea in Texas said: USAJOBS? Are you kidding? They said on the radio once that there are over 80 million apps on file! That is some serious competition.

You either need to have a father who is a Congressman or all the luck in the world.

You are probably right. I can't waste my time with them any longer. It's as if they are doing you some great favor in referring you to something you'll never get. It's ridiculous. Here you are preparing this extensive resume, sending transcripts and hoping that someone can sense that you can file papers and interview people. I'm been running offices all my life, successful offices. The only reason I'm in this jobless predicament is because the economy sucks and companies can't keep up. Otherwise, I consider myself a smart business woman. I guess this is where I've gone wrong for the feds.

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H F in Washington, District of Columbia

25 months ago

Bluetea in Texas said: USAJOBS? Are you kidding? They said on the radio once that there are over 80 million apps on file! That is some serious competition.

You either need to have a father who is a Congressman or all the luck in the world.


80 million, is that all? Lol...The problem with usajobs isn't the amount of applications on file, the problem is the lack of response to those applications once they've closed. I've seen applications I've submitted well over a yr ago still not updated

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marieinnj in Union City, New Jersey

25 months ago

This information is sickening although very accurate. I've applied, submitted my resume via USAJobs. com for years now and not one call. I even found out who the hiring manager for one particular job was and contacted her directly and never got an answer. Shortly after USAJobs told me that they had cancelled the position. I have lost all faith in politics, politicians, the state of NJ and it's services. I'm one unemployment paycheck away from total financial horror. As a Workforce professional, I've counseling people for years and have found my clients jobs in all industries for the past 20 years, I cannot help myself although I've really, really been trying. Right now, I am my clients. The job market is awful and very competitive for the 30-40k jobs which are still totally underpaid in this economy. This is just damn inconceivable. God help us all. No job means no mortgage payments. Here we go again, round and round we go. The middle class is being pushed towards the poverty level. We don't like it. We've worked hard for middle class status and now we're poor but cannot get state benefits because we still don't qualify.

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marieinnj in Union City, New Jersey

25 months ago

jna115 in Port Jervis, New York said: I put in for an intelligence position for the Air Force at about 6 different locations. They all referred my application to the hiring manager. Im a retired NYPD Detective Squad Sergeant with a degree. Do I have a shot or is it like a previous post where someone stated they already know who they are going to hire? Just want to know if Im wasting my time.

Yeah, you are.Unless you know someone there. Do you? Please put in a good word for me.

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Just Me in Oakland, California

18 months ago

SpaceCwboy in Norcross, Georgia said: That's why I applied to a field I knew was pretty safe (VA..120B spending budget this year). Keep trying and don't give up. My coworkers couldn't believe how many applications I sent out before I was hired (a lot of them never had to go through this process like you and I). Due to recent changes, it seems to be hard for civilians without prior military history to get in (unless it is a specialty occupation). Disabled vets are now given much more seniority in the hiring process (believe it or not...even than before).

Once you get in, you'll realize it is a "mafia type" mentality (who you know). Forget the hiring process, this mentality even applies to your job (getting things done, etc). I'm pretty sure everyone who has a government job can attest to this.

Here's a tip: Concentrate on the "rural areas". Your chances are greatly increased. I understand driving an hour or 2 everyday to work is horrible, but in a year (or sooner depending on your agency and their needs) you can apply for a transfer. If your transfer doesn't happen....apply to a different agency. Remember...the trick is getting in the door!! Like everyone will tell you..."Once you're in...you're in". Mob mentality again! LOL!

My sister didn't choose a rural area but she did apply to a city (Pittsburgh, PA) with lots of openings to finally get her GS-07 rating. She had to live away from her family (3 hour drive) but she and her husband with kids-in-tow took turns visiting on the weekends. Anyway, she stayed 6 months and was able to rejoin her family right away by applying for and obtaining a position in their local area.

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kelly1 in Gaithersburg, Maryland

18 months ago

jagman298 in Red Lion, Pennsylvania said: The federal employment process is truly a joke. I get turned down again yet for another federal position, something that I was more than qualified for. Having veterans preference, why bother it doesn't really seem to make any difference what so ever. Here I am unemployed for over a year now, no hopes in the horizon. I've done everything I can think of to find a job, got all the education , experience, but no job. What else is there left to do?

look at private industry, federal employment isn't all that..

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joegagill1 in Key West, Florida

18 months ago

kelly1 in Gaithersburg, Maryland said: look at private industry, federal employment isn't all that..

Obviously your a person who never worked in private industry.

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Majorvet in Colorado Springs, Colorado

16 months ago

Unfortunately, the system is completely corrupted! The entire process is as near a shame as is a Pyramid sales pitch. The truth is, Vets are not only not wanted, they are feared and the Federal hiring rule that allows managers to "cancel announcements" without an explanation is designed to keep Vets out and allows managers to cancel referral list that have Vets or multiple Vets as the leading or best qualified applicants. HR offices are the willing pawns of the corrupt managers who "swap" hire relatives and spouses for each other. "you hire my kid and I'll hire your wife". The real sad thing is no one in leadership cares. What's worst is if you fight the corruption, you are black-balled, your name and SSN is tagged! When you complain the government "salaried lawyers with nothing to do use the regulations they helped write to beat you in to submission. All you can really do is just keep applying and hope you stumble into a fair and honest hiring manager.

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lilerm8302 in Cleveland, Ohio

13 months ago

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tgpii in Chicago, Illinois

12 months ago

lilerm8302 in Cleveland, Ohio said: plus.google.com/events/c53f29j5bugehor3q4v8b8rn4dc

I found a job on USAjobs.com. Applied for the job. It said local candidates only, but I said I was wiling to relocate. After the closing date came they said I was not picked because I was not local.
Few days latter the same/similar job shows up on USAjobs.com. This time it is open to anyone. Assuming they didn't find anyone the first time. The closing date came and it says refereed Does USAjobs.com really do this for every job? Since it says refereed is there anything I should do? I sent an email to the HR email in the job announcement thanking them for the update. The job is a civillian job is working wth the CYS/MWA childcare on a military post. Currently I am not a veteran but I am in the ARNG. Would that help?

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marieinnj in Union City, New Jersey

12 months ago

Referred means nothing, they may or may not bring you in for an interview. I find that these jobs are usually taken before posted. A lot are taken by family and friends of those who work for the federal government.

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Holly in Cleveland, Ohio

11 months ago

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Peach in Brandywine, Maryland

11 months ago

jagman298 in Red Lion, Pennsylvania said: The federal employment process is truly a joke. I get turned down again yet for another federal position, something that I was more than qualified for. Having veterans preference, why bother it doesn't really seem to make any difference what so ever. Here I am unemployed for over a year now, no hopes in the horizon. I've done everything I can think of to find a job, got all the education , experience, but no job. What else is there left to do?

Just pray, because I feel you, I was out of work for almost 3years then got a call from a temp agency. I landed a permanent job but does not pay much for my years of experience and degree. I have recently received a response from USA as well, it just says that I am qualified, so I will pray for the best, the economy is still bad for many of us. Best wishes and don't give up.

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Holly in Cleveland, Ohio

11 months ago

Peach in Brandywine, Maryland said: Just pray, because I feel you, I was out of work for almost 3years then got a call from a temp agency. I landed a permanent job but does not pay much for my years of experience and degree. I have recently received a response from USA as well, it just says that I am qualified, so I will pray for the best, the economy is still bad for many of us. Best wishes and don't give up.

I concur Peach! Here are some things you can actively do when you are trying to get a Federal job:

1. Do not assume that you know "how" to apply correctly. When I first started out the types of jobs that I was applying for were completely off the mark in terms of my qualifications. I remember getting rejection notice after rejection notice. Until I really understood what the job posting was asking for in terms of the qualifications section, I was just blindly applying. I would suggest looking at types of jobs you are applying for...are you really qualified? Do you have the 1 year of justifiable experience? Do you have the 2 years of progressively higher education, bachelors degree, masters degree.
2. How are you rating yourself in the automated occupational questionnaire? I tended to be conservative when rating myself, but once I started to apply to the right types of jobs that changed. I could fully say: Yes, I am putting "E" because I could do this in my sleep, teach people and on my own without supervision. Think between the lines, what is that duty phrase really asking? Pull out the keywords in the question. Can you do that? If yes, rate yourself based on your ability to do "x". For example, if the question states: Able to process email communications using "x" software and route/categorize such correspondence via "x" applications. What that question is really saying is: What is your exposure/ability to use technology to communicate? Just because I have not used "x" software does not mean I will rate myself lower.

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Holly in Cleveland, Ohio

11 months ago

Peach in Brandywine, Maryland said: Just pray, because I feel you, I was out of work for almost 3years then got a call from a temp agency. I landed a permanent job but does not pay much for my years of experience and degree. I have recently received a response from USA as well, it just says that I am qualified, so I will pray for the best, the economy is still bad for many of us. Best wishes and don't give up.

Sorry got cut off.

If I can prove how I have used "y" software in the past to communicate, then I will up my rating on the questionnaire.

3. YOUR resume needs to be fully tuned up for each job posting you apply. You need to ensure that it reflects the keywords/key phrases that are listed in that job posting under the duties/responsibilities/qualifications sections. It might seem daunting for each time you apply, but that is were you need to get a system down.

Hope the above helps.

You can always send me an email at holly@federaljobinsider.com if you need further clarification or help.

Best of luck!

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Vallie in Sacramento, California

11 months ago

Question please. I applied and was interviewed for a position and one evening I got the notification from USA JOBS that I had a status update. I logged in and found I was selected for position. I was so happy I logged in a few times that night to view. I took a picture of the page to send to a friend. I looked forward to hearing from the Agency of a start date, etc.

But, the next day I logged in and something had changed. Now, it showed selected/non selected. I e-mailed HR and the e-mail given by the Agency I interviewed for and no response. 5 days later HR contacted me and notified me that the wrong applicant (me) was notified and was sorry.

Well the USA JOBS website still shows selected/non selected and another column shows referred - not selected.

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WaitingOnUSAJobs

11 months ago

Peach in Brandywine, Maryland said: Just pray, because I feel you, I was out of work for almost 3years then got a call from a temp agency. I landed a permanent job but does not pay much for my years of experience and degree. I have recently received a response from USA as well, it just says that I am qualified, so I will pray for the best, the economy is still bad for many of us. Best wishes and don't give up.

Peach thank you for the inspiration! You sound oddly familiar! Have you/ do you still work in the DC area? Is your first name Jakie? =]

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Holly in Cleveland, Ohio

11 months ago

Vallie in Sacramento, California said: Question please. I applied and was interviewed for a position and one evening I got the notification from USA JOBS that I had a status update. I logged in and found I was selected for position. I was so happy I logged in a few times that night to view. I took a picture of the page to send to a friend. I looked forward to hearing from the Agency of a start date, etc.

But, the next day I logged in and something had changed. Now, it showed selected/non selected. I e-mailed HR and the e-mail given by the Agency I interviewed for and no response. 5 days later HR contacted me and notified me that the wrong applicant (me) was notified and was sorry.

Well the USA JOBS website still shows selected/non selected and another column shows referred - not selected.

Vallie, unfortunately, stuff like that does happen. There is nothing you can do, unless you have a signed offer letter. I've had friends who were verbally offered a position on the phone, and in the same conversation, the offer was rescinded - verbally. The best thing is to move on, keep applying.

If you need help, send me an email at holly@federaljobinsider.com.

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Vallie in Sacramento, California

11 months ago

Holly in Cleveland, Ohio
4 days ago
Vallie in Sacramento, California said: Question please. I applied and was interviewed for a position and one evening I got the notification from USA JOBS that I had a status update. I logged in and found I was selected for position. I was so happy I logged in a few times that night to view. I took a picture of the page to send to a friend. I looked forward to hearing from the Agency of a start date, etc.
But, the next day I logged in and something had changed. Now, it showed selected/non selected. I e-mailed HR and the e-mail given by the Agency I interviewed for and no response. 5 days later HR contacted me and notified me that the wrong applicant (me) was notified and was sorry.

Well the USA JOBS website still shows selected/non selected and another column shows referred - not selected.

Vallie, unfortunately, stuff like that does happen. There is nothing you can do, unless you have a signed offer letter. I've had friends who were verbally offered a position on the phone, and in the same conversation, the offer was rescinded - verbally. The best thing is to move on, keep applying.

If you need help, send me an email at holly@federaljobinsider.com.

Really? Nothing can be done? There are appeal processes. I am currently in the middle of an MSPB case. If you research the law, you can find not everything is cut and dry. The Federal Government is accountable.

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Holly in Cleveland, Ohio

11 months ago

Vallie, that is fascinating. You have definitely schooled me in something I am not familiar with at all. I just assumed that there was no recourse for issues when HR messes up, at least, before you are officially a Federal employee.

Any interest in jumping on a phone call with me to discuss this matter further? I am really interested in what you are doing, and what you have learned in filing the MSPB case.

If so, email me at holly@federaljobinsider.com. I can give you my personal phone number from there

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