LOGCAP IV INFO

I received a called from Fluor about 3 weeks ago a phone interview was told my resume stood out and the manager of the dept. was impressed. I was told that I would be getting a call back the next week it's been 3 weeks now. On the Fluor status it still has "Under Review" does anyone have any idea what's going on? The position I applied for was Document Data Tech.

Donald Bassetti in Albany, Oregon said: I need a passport first then a work visa to from the embassy correct?

Donald you just need to get your passport first. The LogCap contracter that hires you will take care of anything else. You can expediate your passport yourself straight thru the State Department. Just have to pay the expediate fees. If you use one of those passport services, then you'll pay even more! Also, see if one of your local goverment officials, such as Congressman or State Representative. I used my congressman office, got it in 5 days, no joke. I paid for the Fedex both ways, but it was worth the money.

Make sure that you have a certified copy of your birth certificate on hand. You'll need it more than you think.

One other thing you can work on while waiting on your passport will be a SF85P. Might seem like you are putting the cart before the horse, but the more prep that you do the better off you'll be.

Best of luck to you!
Kathy

I believe Fluor is now making everyone do a SF86, not 100% sure but the people who arrived in Greenville last Saturday all had to redo and they had them do the 86, they are saying with all the trouble their having getting us out on the 85's is taking to long and this way if there is something wrong they are told exacly what it is where on the 85's their just told there is a problem but not what it is. Good luck all.

Donald Bassetti in Albany, Oregon said: Thx Kat your right he did a wonderful job!

You are more than welcome! My hubby had heard about him and passed it along to me. So, I pass it along to everybody that I can!

What are you looking to do overseas?? And do you still need a list of the other smaller companies?? Might can help you out with some more info........ shoot me a email at samme007 @ comcast.net.

Kathy

andyg in Briggs, Texas said: I believe Fluor is now making everyone do a SF86, not 100% sure but the people who arrived in Greenville last Saturday all had to redo and they had them do the 86, they are saying with all the trouble their having getting us out on the 85's is taking to long and this way if there is something wrong they are told exacly what it is where on the 85's their just told there is a problem but not what it is. Good luck all.

Hummmmmmm! isn't that interesting!
A SF-86 (Questionnaire for National Security Positions), version July 2008 is used by the security clearance applicant. SF-86 will take longer to process than the SF-85. Regardless, completing the documents honestly and accruately should move things along faster.

When granted a SF86 security clearance, the applicant is allowed to view (if needed) classified information and or work/visit/ etc., classified areas, buildings, facilities, etc., up to the level granted (if needed).
Highly doubtful that a food service worker will be viewing classified information and working in classified areas.

Do keep us all in the loop if you learn anything else about this.
Kathy

In gv in about an hour. Yay

nabisko32 in Hollywood, Florida said: In gv in about an hour. Yay

Best of luck. =)

Nashville Kat in Tennessee said: Hummmmmmm! isn't that interesting!
A SF-86 (Questionnaire for National Security Positions), version July 2008 is used by the security clearance applicant. SF-86 will take longer to process than the SF-85. Regardless, completing the documents honestly and accruately should move things along faster.

When granted a SF86 security clearance, the applicant is allowed to view (if needed) classified information and or work/visit/ etc., classified areas, buildings, facilities, etc., up to the level granted (if needed).
Highly doubtful that a food service worker will be viewing classified information and working in classified areas.

Do keep us all in the loop if you learn anything else about this.
Kathy

You are correct Nashville, the 86 will take longer to process and since it will take longer. IF that is the reason to use the sf86 to speed up the process then why hire so many FNs from the balkans they do not have to fill out the 85 or 86 so why would US citizens have to have a clearance? just does not make sense to me.

nabisko32 in Hollywood, Florida said: In gv in about an hour. Yay

That's awesome! Can you get me over there with you? LOL, if you have any information that would be beneficial please pass it along...Be Blessed!

The reason for submitting an SF86 is that if there is a problem with the fingerprints you are told immediately and you are told what the problem is whereas with an SF85P if there is a problem with your fingerprints they start doing a background check, which can take weeks, before you are notified that there is a problem. So by going with the SF86 if there is a problem you know right away and then you can submit the SF85 being sure that that the specific problems are addressed. Also with an SF86 yif all is well you are usually granted an interim Secret clearance within a week as long as your fingerprints are good whereas with the SF85 it can take as long as 13 weeks the difference being that with a SF86 the background check can take up to 8 months so interim is granted before the background is complete. I don't know if this makes any sense but it is the ain reason they are doing this not because they want everyone to have a secret clearance but to speed up the process of the SF85P as people are not putting everything down and it is taking so long to get back the info and to re-file.
As for hiring FN's, OCN,s and all the other N's these people are running a business where low bid wins and the spot where you save the most is on labor so for all those that aren't happy about the way it is done put your money on the table start a business, hang your ass out and start bidding.

andyg in Briggs, Texas said: The reason for submitting an SF86 is that if there is a problem with the fingerprints you are told immediately and you are told what the problem is whereas with an SF85P if there is a problem with your fingerprints they start doing a background check, which can take weeks, before you are notified that there is a problem. complete. put your money on the table start a business, hang your ass out and start bidding.

Thanks for your detailed explaination. Makes sense, crazy as it sounds.

Peace
Kathy

Ksniper777 in San Antonio, Texas said: You are correct Nashville, the 86 will take longer to process and since it will take longer. IF that is the reason to use the sf86 to speed up the process then why hire so many FNs from the balkans they do not have to fill out the 85 or 86 so why would US citizens have to have a clearance? just does not make sense to me.

okay, if the FN's from the Balkans don't have to have security clearance, then what do they have to have?? what about TCN's?? that's just nuts isn't it?? The more that I know, the less I understand.......
I couldn't even walk on to docks of our American Ports with out my TWIC card.

Take Care Ksniper!
Kathy

I've been on the logcap4jobs site and there are some very bleak descriptions of life over there. Are the people really as cold and brutal as this site makes them sound???

Doug Bryson in Atlanta, Georgia said: I've been on the logcap4jobs site and there are some very bleak descriptions of life over there. Are the people really as cold and brutal as this site makes them sound???

Its a crapshoot really. In my department its fine, but thats also because the manager was fired (he fit that description on logcap4jobs). I've also heard how other departments on my base definetly have the cold and brutal in full force.

Hey bro! I have not worked over there yet! However With the conditions and just
my military experience I believe Every bit is true!

Take this for instance!

Mix many different people from the world in a desert that don't see eye to eye within themselves or amongst others. Throw in real bad living conditions with no commodities of home, dirt, funk, filth, the drive for greed and backstabbing motives as crabs in a barrel! With great pay and the potential for more money with promotions! All just for the money! Oh let me add ex cons from all walks of life!

Hmmm, I just said what Bruce did! I imagined it already in my head! My
military experience and
life experimce tells menthey are not B.S. us. It for the faint of heart. As u know life has a cost with any and everything we do!

I bet it's just short of prison life! I am sure
I may be off a little here or there!

I have been on this site for a bit but not as long as some of the vets here! I can tell you one thing! Everyone I have spoke with and listned to has told me no
lies and willing to help if o e is willing to help themselves!

He'll these folks all ought get LOGCAP IV tat's and start a brotherhood cause it ain't for sisees! Oh yea there are females there to!

Just my take and I ant been there yet! Just heard fr these folks and first hand from
a close friend!

Later

Sorry for the spelling errors trying use the I-phone :-))

Nashville Kat in Tennessee said: okay, if the FN's from the Balkans don't have to have security clearance, then what do they have to have?? what about TCN's?? that's just nuts isn't it?? The more that I know, the less I understand.......
I couldn't even walk on to docks of our American Ports with out my TWIC card.

Take Care Ksniper!
Kathy

They can't get a CAC Card without the SF85, so just hire them overseas and go on with life. With the SF86 Fluor has to pay for the process so just another way to charge the government for a process that is not necessary. So if everyone has a secret clearance then they also have to pay them from the US and plus unemployment as well.

Donald Bassetti in Albany, Oregon said: I need a passport first then a work visa to from the embassy correct?

You do not need a visa in Afghanistan, and US passport holders don't have to have one in Dubai (unless your job is there). If you go to Iraq with KBR you have to have a MOI (ministry of interior) letter that they will get for you. This is a relativly new requirment for Iraq.

Nashville Kat in Tennessee said: Hummmmmmm! isn't that interesting!
A SF-86 (Questionnaire for National Security Positions), version July 2008 is used by the security clearance applicant. SF-86 will take longer to process than the SF-85. Regardless, completing the documents honestly and accruately should move things along faster.

When granted a SF86 security clearance, the applicant is allowed to view (if needed) classified information and or work/visit/ etc., classified areas, buildings, facilities, etc., up to the level granted (if needed).
Highly doubtful that a food service worker will be viewing classified information and working in classified areas.

Do keep us all in the loop if you learn anything else about this.
Kathy

They are using the SF-85 for those of us already in country, I don't know what they are using stateside, but if they have went to secret clearences on new hires that is realy going to slow things down.

Nashville Kat in Tennessee said: okay, if the FN's from the Balkans don't have to have security clearance, then what do they have to have?? what about TCN's?? that's just nuts isn't it?? The more that I know, the less I understand.......
I couldn't even walk on to docks of our American Ports with out my TWIC card.

Take Care Ksniper!
Kathy

Thanks Kat and yes it does not make sense about the clearance.

Is there anyone that is in greenville now that is in the trades,preferably carpenter.I would like to know how the processing is going.I'll be there 5/15.There is some talk about sf86 replacing sf85,curious if that's the case.Wondering about hotels for the long term,and some other stuff.

tkcarpenter in New Britain, Connecticut said: Is there anyone that is in greenville now that is in the trades,preferably carpenter.I would like to know how the processing is going.I'll be there 5/15.There is some talk about sf86 replacing sf85,curious if that's the case.Wondering about hotels for the long term,and some other stuff.

I just got off the phone with security, literally 2 minutes ago, and was told they're doing the sf85, not the 86. There are 3 different hotels they put you up in and all you have to do is provide the means to feed yourself. Shuttles and hotel costs are covered.

Thanx,do you know anything about the nccer tests for trades?

Nashville Kat in Tennessee said: Donald you just need to get your passport first. The LogCap contracter that hires you will take care of anything else. You can expediate your passport yourself straight thru the State Department. Just have to pay the expediate fees. If you use one of those passport services, then you'll pay even more! Also, see if one of your local goverment officials, such as Congressman or State Representative. I used my congressman office, got it in 5 days, no joke. I paid for the Fedex both ways, but it was worth the money.

Make sure that you have a certified copy of your birth certificate on hand. You'll need it more than you think.

One other thing you can work on while waiting on your passport will be a SF85P. Might seem like you are putting the cart before the horse, but the more prep that you do the better off you'll be.

Best of luck to you!
Kathy

Hey all Newbies as myself! Kat is right about the congressman! They will monitor the passport process for you to be sure there are no hickups! U need to fill out an authorization for for them to represent you! After that the call and represent you! It's cheaper than those Internet passports! Pluss all the Internet Passports go through the state departmnent anyhow, well most! So just pay the expedition fee via the government site, then call your congressman office that represents your district. It should come in about 5 days!

Thx Kat!

tkcarpenter in New Britain, Connecticut said: Thanx,do you know anything about the nccer tests for trades?

I talked to a guy in Greenville going through the process and he told me the NCCER test are related to the trade you're in. They give you some books and say this many ?'s out of this section and so forth. You have a week to study and then you take it. If you fail you get to retake it in 2 days, after that I'm not too sure.

what is the hiring process for dyncorp? I got a call from a recruiter today. I know you have to have the SF85. Where do you fly out of and stops on the way if going to Afghanistan? Email me at turnerdetroit@yahoo.com

detkuwait in salmiya, Kuwait said: what is the hiring process for dyncorp? I got a call from a recruiter today. I know you have to have the SF85. Where do you fly out of and stops on the way if going to Afghanistan? Email me at turnerdetroit@yahoo.com

You fly out of Dallas/Ft Worth. I think Hubby went to Dubai and then on to Afgh this last time. Some people have had some payroll issues - but my husband has never missed 1 check. I think most of that has been worked out now. Hubby went from Foreman w/ KBR to Super and now to O&M Mgr w/Dyn - so opportunities for advancement are there for those that want it and apply themselves. Good luck to you....

Thanks Sunnydaysracoming

SunnyDayzRaComing in On the Lake, Georgia said: You fly out of Dallas/Ft Worth. I think Hubby went to Dubai and then on to Afgh this last time. Some people have had some payroll issues - but my husband has never missed 1 check. I think most of that has been worked out now. Hubby went from Foreman w/ KBR to Super and now to O&M Mgr w/Dyn - so opportunities for advancement are there for those that want it and apply themselves. Good luck to you....

Go Dyncorp who is about to lose there contract in Afghanistan. KBR i believe is going to get an extenstion in Iraq for the BLS part. No chaos of transition to another contractor in Iraq.

SunnyDayzRaComing in On the Lake, Georgia said: You fly out of Dallas/Ft Worth. I think Hubby went to Dubai and then on to Afgh this last time. Some people have had some payroll issues - but my husband has never missed 1 check. I think most of that has been worked out now. Hubby went from Foreman w/ KBR to Super and now to O&M Mgr w/Dyn - so opportunities for advancement are there for those that want it and apply themselves. Good luck to you....

LOL good ole Melinda still pumping DynCorp sunshine straight up everyones wazoo. I experienced their transition in Kuwait, was no where near what the chaos is/was in Afgan. Other than your husbands wonderful experiences I have yet to hear any other positive ones. Let me ask something. If everyone that was in the position of authority at KBR as people say were bad lousy lame etc and they were transitioned/rehired by said new companies, do you honesty think their management skills improved?

tstorm in Plan said: LOL good ole Melinda still pumping DynCorp sunshine straight up everyones wazoo. I experienced their transition in Kuwait, was no where near what the chaos is/was in Afgan. Other than your husbands wonderful experiences I have yet to hear any other positive ones. Let me ask something. If everyone that was in the position of authority at KBR as people say were bad lousy lame etc and they were transitioned/rehired by said new companies, do you honesty think their management skills improved?

LOL, just changed the name and of course when you treat the newbies likes dookie and of course how can you apply yourself when you are not getting paid. Just a name change but Dyncorp is on there way out. Trust me.

You cold brother Sniper! Hence the name! LOL :-))))

Gone Fishing in Forsyth, Georgia said: They are using the SF-85 for those of us already in country, I don't know what they are using stateside, but if they have went to secret clearences on new hires that is realy going to slow things down.

But, you can be granted an interim clearance while the powers that be are working on a final. FederalSoup.com has a forum about security clearances, and several former investigators contribute. Most important that you fill either SF out completely and honestly. Should make the invertigators job a little easier and therefore move a bit faster.

K

Donald Bassetti in Albany, Oregon said: You cold brother Sniper! Hence the name! LOL :-))))

He just shoots straight from the hip! Pulls no punches! Calls 'em like he sees 'em!

Good luck with the passport!

Kathy

He's a COLD BROTHER I see it and call it like is to! :-))) I am the same way can't you tell!:-)))
The kind of brother I want on my team! Cold Brother as in COOL!

love and respect

Sons of God MC
S.F.F.S
Diesel

Hello! My husband is in Afghanistan. He had to switch from KBR to Flour. Can anyone PLEASE tell me Flour's pay schedule? My husband said that he thought it was every two weeks?? He got his bonus on the first Friday of this month so I am hoping that this Friday will be the next payday??

lesa in Cleveland, Georgia said: Hello! My husband is in Afghanistan. He had to switch from KBR to Flour. Can anyone PLEASE tell me Flour's pay schedule? My husband said that he thought it was every two weeks?? He got his bonus on the first Friday of this month so I am hoping that this Friday will be the next payday??

They get paid every two weeks. We will get a paid this Friday, April 16th and then on the 30th of April.
Hope this helps!

Kathy

Donald Bassetti in Albany, Oregon said: He's a COLD BROTHER I see it and call it like is to! :-))) I am the same way can't you tell!:-)))
The kind of brother I want on my team! Cold Brother as in COOL!

love and respect

Sons of God MC
S.F.F.S
Diesel

K

Nashville Kat in Tennessee said: They get paid every two weeks. We will get a paid this Friday, April 16th and then on the 30th of April.
Hope this helps!

Kathy

THANK U SO MUCH KATHY!!!! :) Are you a flour employee wife as well?

Are there any other Flour employee wives out there in Forum Land??:) My husband is in Afghanistan at Bagram.

lesa in Cleveland, Georgia said: THANK U SO MUCH KATHY!!!! :) Are you a flour employee wife as well?

Yes! Hubby transitioned from KBR to FLUOR in Feb. this year. We have no compliants with KBR at all. Glad that we have made it this far. Hubby is coming home next week for R & R. He'll do his FLUOR physical in Dubai in a couple of days.

KoKo is the only other one that I know for sure. There are some other yaya's, but names escape my brain at this moment.

Welcome aboard!
Kathy

Thanks again Kathy! My hubs has been gone since Nov! I miss him so but he loves what he's doing very much! Glad to hear that your hubby is coming home soon! I won't see mine until July or Aug!
Take Care,
Lesa

lesa in Cleveland, Georgia said: Thanks again Kathy! My hubs has been gone since Nov! I miss him so but he loves what he's doing very much! Glad to hear that your hubby is coming home soon! I won't see mine until July or Aug!
Take Care,
Lesa

Can appreciate that! We went right at 6 months before his first R & R. But he did get to come home for Christmas and that was really great. Can't say that Jimmy loves his job, but the money is great, and he likes that part pretty well. We talk almost every day and alot of times, there is just nothing to talk about except his crazy dog or the wildlife that comes thru my front yard. I'll be proud to see him next week. Goes without saying, after having him under foot for 2 weeks, I'll probably be glad to put him back on that plane! LOL!!!!!

Take Care!
Kathy

Time flies and it will be here before you know it.

hahahaaa so funny!!! I know what you mean!!! I am afraid that coming home for R&R could be bad thing...but..maybe it won't be hard to go back. If you don't mind...do u have a facebook? :)

lesa in Cleveland, Georgia said: hahahaaa so funny!!! I know what you mean!!! I am afraid that coming home for R&R could be bad thing...but..maybe it won't be hard to go back. If you don't mind...do u have a facebook? :)

Hi Lesa,

Koko here. My husband left KBR to go with Fluor last July, so we had 2 RRs. Just as Kathy mentioned, really no issues with KBR, they just offered hubby better pay. And he figured if he was going to do this, he might as well get the most for his time away from his family and life here. We dealt with the long stretch without RR ourselves. He was pushing six mths when he went with Fluor–and they-- KBR were talking seven, then eight. Feb was a yr for us counting his time with KBR and Fluor–and I guess I got to see him about 4 wks for the yr. But Rrs have been pretty regular–no issues in fact at all since he has been with Fluor. We just had our first out of country RR–met in mexico last mth. He’ll be stateside again come June for his 3rd RR, and then in Aug it will be his EOC. Thus far he is planning to do another yr. But we've gotten to the mental stage where he really just takes it 3 mths–less than even with Rrs- at a time. Makes it seem as the time goes faster.

Its so dang hard when they leave regardless–and I know it cuts both ways. I know it takes hubby a couple of weeks to readjust after he goes back over there. So I try to be strong for his sake. Then again maybe he is just playing me so I will be strong. Hmmm . . .

Frankly there are days with me stuck here with the kids that I think he’s the one that’s got it easy–war zone or not. LOL

I am pretty sure Beth husband’s is now with Fluor and there one or two others that I know that are about but they namely lurk on the forums.

Kathy, I am now looking at houses. I may look at condos later. But I decided I want a house again. =)

HEY TONY HERE... TRYING TO SEE IF ANYONE HAS ANY HELPFUL INFORMATION ON HOW TO GO A FOOT IN THE DOOR WITH ''FLUOR OR KBR'' IF ANYONE ON HERE COULD HELP ME OUT, I REALLY, REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE IT! ANY INFORMATION CAN BE SENT TO: tony.braxton1985@yahoo.com

I AM A WELL EXPERIENCED LOGISTICS COORDINATOR WITH 7 YEARS EXPERIENCE IN THIS FEILD! BUT IS WILLING TO TAKE ANY JOB OVER THERE AT THIS MOMENT! THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!

I've been reading thru the forum looking for what the rate of pay is for a carpenter foreman or super or carpenter for that fact and no luck. does anyone who is processing now have that info? I'd appreciate it very much! been applying for months now with no luck as of yet but i'm hopeful! thanks again..

Tony Braxton1985 in Houston, Texas said: HEY TONY HERE... TRYING TO SEE IF ANYONE HAS ANY HELPFUL INFORMATION ON HOW TO GO A FOOT IN THE DOOR WITH ''FLUOR OR KBR'' IF ANYONE ON HERE COULD HELP ME OUT, I REALLY, REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE IT! ANY INFORMATION CAN BE SENT TO: tony.braxton1985@yahoo.com

I AM A WELL EXPERIENCED LOGISTICS COORDINATOR WITH 7 YEARS EXPERIENCE IN THIS FEILD! BUT IS WILLING TO TAKE ANY JOB OVER THERE AT THIS MOMENT! THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!

Tony,
Apply,apply and keep on applying. I have been working on this since last November, and I have 15 years in logistics go figure! LOL!!! There are alot of us in the same boat as you.

Have a strong resume, and have a passport in hand and make sure you really can leave with little notice. I can forward you a list of other contractors/sub-contractors to help aid in your search. Shoot me a email at
samme007 @ comcast.net if you want the list.

Good luck!
Kathy

YEA I KNOW... THIS IS A GOOD CHALLENGE FOR ME TOO, SEEING THAT I AM UNEMPLOYED AT THE TIME! LOL!!! BUT ON THE OTHER HAND I REALLY DO APPRECITE YOU FOR THE INFO... I WILL SEND YOU AN EMAIL NOW! I ALSO HAVE A COUPLE CONTACT & EMAILS FROM BOTH ''FLUOR & KBR''

THANKS ALOT ''MS. KATHY''

CG in Austin Tx in Austin, Texas said: I've been reading thru the forum looking for what the rate of pay is for a carpenter foreman or super or carpenter for that fact and no luck. does anyone who is processing now have that info? I'd appreciate it very much! been applying for months now with no luck as of yet but i'm hopeful! thanks again..

With KBR, labor, food service is $2000.00 plus 75% uplift Skilled labor: Skilled Labor (carpenters, HVAC) with KBR is 2583.00 plus 75% uplift. Maybe that will help you some. Also, try looking at the other indeed Forums like KBR Salaries, Bonuses and Benefits. You might have to do some digging, but I am pretty sure that you'll more info.

Good Luck!
Kathy