LOGCAP IV INFO

Hi Guys, I accepted a job with KBR, the salary is ok but they can only offer a 6 month contract which is not great for me, this was not explained during the recruitment. I am desperate to start with Fluor as i know the salary is better and i presume the contracts are longer ? I really need to make as much money as i can to get out of our home and get a better one and fast.

Can anyone help me or give advice on how to stick out to Fluor and have a good shot of getting hired, i have over 11yrs Plumbing experience with all my Gas certs and Supervisor experience. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Rockaway Beach, NY in Sacramento, California said: Thank you Bro. This is a Flour Forum! No offense to you other guy's/gal's.

Right on ...rock!

Hi all, I am in the same boat as the poster above me, accepted a job with KBR, but as I understand the Iraq contract ends in Dec, 2011. Any leads on recruiter info with FLOUR ? Thanks all... Im on the admin, business, supply, logistics side etc.

dmure in Glasgow, United Kingdom said: Hi Guys, I accepted a job with KBR, the salary is ok but they can only offer a 6 month contract which is not great for me, this was not explained during the recruitment. I am desperate to start with Fluor as i know the salary is better and i presume the contracts are longer ? I really need to make as much money as i can to get out of our home and get a better one and fast.

Can anyone help me or give advice on how to stick out to Fluor and have a good shot of getting hired, i have over 11yrs Plumbing experience with all my Gas certs and Supervisor experience. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

I wish I knew the secret, but from what I have seen and read it looks like the Europeans have all kinds of trouble. You might try Dyn Corp and see if they are easier to crack, or it might be better to take the contract with KBR- that gives you 6 months to line up a job with another contractor and now you have more war zone contracting experience to add..

When I was over before there was some outfit I think they where out of GB doing some work.. they where called Wolf Pack or something.. they did outside the wire construction and gen work. I don't know if they are still in country subbing on LG IV or if they went away but if they are still active might be easier to get into.

dofbft in Cloumbia, South Carolina said: Hi all, I am in the same boat as the poster above me, accepted a job with KBR, but as I understand the Iraq contract ends in Dec, 2011. Any leads on recruiter info with FLOUR ? Thanks all... Im on the admin, business, supply, logistics side etc.

KBR has MCT contracts on LG IV, maybe you can transfer to Afghanistan if that's where your experience lies. Otherwise- gotta start fresh and apply online.. I got called kind of quickly after applying a few others too- if you already got on with KBR you should have the resume for it. It's about 4 months from applying to flying... unless you hire with Fluor before you leave KBR and keep your CAC. BUT- the KBR sponsored CAC is probably only good until the end of their contract.

Rockaway Beach, NY in Sacramento, California said: Thank you Bro. This is a Flour Forum! No offense to you other guy's/gal's.

I have found my peaceful place.... for now. Trying to approach it with less attitude and frustration lol.

HVAC_2 in Tacoma, Washington said: Graef-
if you're still around have you gotten your travel info yet? What date did you clear the OPM investigation?

I am still here my paper work was submitted to opm on the 25 th of may as far as clearing opm I have no idea. The only email I have got was no further action that was on the 25. I have talked with industrail and recruiter they said weare just waiting on the goverment. I was offered the job april 12th. So in the real world 60 days working is aug 19 to get word from someone so I decided to just wait for that date and continue living.

graefboy in lodi, California said: I am still here my paper work was submitted to opm on the 25 th of may as far as clearing opm I have no idea. The only email I have got was no further action that was on the 25. I have talked with industrail and recruiter they said weare just waiting on the goverment. I was offered the job april 12th. So in the real world 60 days working is aug 19 to get word from someone so I decided to just wait for that date and continue living.

waiting on the government as in release of funds? that is what my husband is waiting on.

steves wife in Michigan said: waiting on the government as in release of funds? that is what my husband is waiting on.

No just waiting for them to get me through the hoops I have seen you post that before but I have never heard of a release of funds from my recruiter just opm and adjun. Has he finish all the paperwork and got all clear from industrail security.

graefboy in lodi, California said: No just waiting for them to get me through the hoops I have seen you post that before but I have never heard of a release of funds from my recruiter just opm and adjun. Has he finish all the paperwork and got all clear from industrail security.

Lodi, We're both goin through hoops. Flour Corp would not have submitted our clearance through PSI-CoE if they were waiting funds. Believe me. Flour Corp will be in Afghany long after the troops leave doing mining work.

When did you 2 sign up? rockaway and lodi?

Rockaway Beach, NY in Sacramento, California said: Lodi, We're both goin through hoops. Flour Corp would not have submitted our clearance through PSI-CoE if they were waiting funds. Believe me. Flour Corp will be in Afghany long after the troops leave doing mining work.

I agree with you. We are right next door to each other well down 99 south from each other you are going as a generator mech. right. What part of sacramento do you live?

German09 in San Antonio, Texas said: When did you 2 sign up? rockaway and lodi?

I got my offer april 12th. But I have been appling for 2 years before I got the call. I waited this long to get an offer so as my wife says whats a little more. Plus I see that the more I want it to happen the longer it takes. When it comes I am ready. It is fun to read all that goes on in this fourm So it keeps me entertain I see what others are going through and just wait.

Gone Fishing in Forsyth, Georgia said: Google IRS publication 54, it lays out the requirements pretty good.

Go to IRS publication 54. Thanks Forsyth!

graefboy in lodi, California said: I agree with you. We are right next door to each other well down 99 south from each other you are going as a generator mech. right. What part of sacramento do you live?

Lodi, Staying with Family helping them, helping me, while layed off from S. Florida. Living in Folsom, outside of Sac. Not much work in Cali, FL, or NY. Hope we get to Afghany, and not get blowed up. Gotta do what you gotta do! Later Bro.

German09 in San Antonio, Texas said: When did you 2 sign up? rockaway and lodi?

Ya writing a book? Just bustin. Wish I could just sign up. It was easier joining the Army. Submitted 7/11. Long wait ahead.

graefboy in lodi, California said: I am still here my paper work was submitted to opm on the 25 th of may as far as clearing opm I have no idea. The only email I have got was no further action that was on the 25. I have talked with industrail and recruiter they said weare just waiting on the goverment. I was offered the job april 12th. So in the real world 60 days working is aug 19 to get word from someone so I decided to just wait for that date and continue living.

There is a place you get your status on OPM.. Find the number because it won't let it post here. just google it.. fax over a paper with the info mentioned on the website, wait about 30 minutes and call in.

Rockaway Beach, NY in Sacramento, California said: Ya writing a book? Just bustin. Wish I could just sign up. It was easier joining the Army. Submitted 7/11. Long wait ahead.

LOL!! true that!!

German09 in San Antonio, Texas said: LOL!! true that!!

What is your status? Why do you care about me or Lodi. We're in Cali waiting! What should you care. Just bring boots.

dmure in Glasgow, United Kingdom said: Hi Guys, I accepted a job with KBR, the salary is ok but they can only offer a 6 month contract which is not great for me, this was not explained during the recruitment. I am desperate to start with Fluor as i know the salary is better and i presume the contracts are longer ? I really need to make as much money as i can to get out of our home and get a better one and fast.

Can anyone help me or give advice on how to stick out to Fluor and have a good shot of getting hired, i have over 11yrs Plumbing experience with all my Gas certs and Supervisor experience. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

I can't help you with your resume, sorry. But I do want to let you know about your 6 month "contract." These contracts over here, doesn't mater the company, are worth about as much as the paper they are written on. They basically say that the company can send you home at any time, for any reason. It may say 6 months or a year, but the truth is it is as long they can use you. After that, you are on the first thing smokin outa there.

dmure in Glasgow, United Kingdom said: Hi Guys, I accepted a job with KBR, the salary is ok but they can only offer a 6 month contract which is not great for me, this was not explained during the recruitment. I am desperate to start with Fluor as i know the salary is better and i presume the contracts are longer ? I really need to make as much money as i can to get out of our home and get a better one and fast.

Can anyone help me or give advice on how to stick out to Fluor and have a good shot of getting hired, i have over 11yrs Plumbing experience with all my Gas certs and Supervisor experience. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

You may also want to keep an eye on Supreme, they are a UK company doing a lot of the same type of work as Fluor and DynCorp. From what I hear, they treat their people well, but it's tough for Americans to get on with them.

steves wife in Michigan said: waiting on the government as in release of funds? that is what my husband is waiting on.

Wow Steves wife,

They are still giving you that line of BS?

Gone Fishing in Forsyth, Georgia said: Wow Steves wife,

They are still giving you that line of BS?

Yep. As I posted a while ago, it is not just us, it was blind copy, so other people are getting it too. Not sure exactly what the deal is but he was an everything is good to go on his 85 back from the middle of May!

steves wife in Michigan said: Yep. As I posted a while ago, it is not just us, it was blind copy, so other people are getting it too. Not sure exactly what the deal is but he was an everything is good to go on his 85 back from the middle of May!

It would be better if they would just shoot straight with you and tell you what the hold up is, because money ain't it. I'll assure you of that. What was it he does again?

Gone Fishing in Forsyth, Georgia said: It would be better if they would just shoot straight with you and tell you what the hold up is, because money ain't it. I'll assure you of that. What was it he does again?

Not sure why they would just say what the "real deal" is. He is an electrician.

When you look on the FLUOR site there are 2 sections of jobs and both have positions overseas. The bulk of the jobs are in one department- perhaps the other division handles some other department contracts they may be involved in, or the hiring was for a construction project. Not sure what is going on with Afghan, but KBR was doing that same thing when the proposals where being conducted for the "enduring" bases. These bases where fitted with masses of housing, new PX and MWR facilities and DFACS... more than what a normal floating construction crew could handle because it was a rapid process. Somebody else.. well 1 other person posted similar... but Blacksnake was going through about the same with ITT as a sub for fluor. I'd be asking my recruiter the question- WHAT do I have to do to get req'd with a normal logcap position. Shouldn't be hard if you're already in the mix and 85'd.

Rockaway Beach, NY in Sacramento, California said: What is your status? Why do you care about me or Lodi. We're in Cali waiting! What should you care. Just bring boots.

if you 2 are with flour just like to know how long you 2 been waiting. Misery loves company. Waiting on adjudication now.

HVAC_2 in Tacoma, Washington said: There is a place you get your status on OPM.. Find the number because it won't let it post here. just google it.. fax over a paper with the info mentioned on the website, wait about 30 minutes and call in.

You cannot "get your status" from OPM. You can go to their website and call their phone number, select option 1, then 3, and get referred to your company's security office.

At least it's something to do while we wait.

I referred a friend of mine to Fluor for a plumbers job. He was told by some one that his "colorful past" would get him DQd by Fluor even if he passed the OPM check, regardless of how long ago it was. Can anyone validate that?

On Hold in Fort Worth, Texas said: I referred a friend of mine to Fluor for a plumbers job. He was told by some one that his "colorful past" would get him DQd by Fluor even if he passed the OPM check, regardless of how long ago it was. Can anyone validate that?

Not true..I had a friend with another company get on with a drug offense. Some companies only go back 7 yr some ten. Recheck or ask what their policy is.

German09 in San Antonio, Texas said: Not true..I had a friend with another company get on with a drug offense. Some companies only go back 7 yr some ten. Recheck or ask what their policy is.

Thanks, I think he reads this blog now. He said Dyncorp suddenly withdrew his offer due to "self-disclosed criminal history" that was over 25 years ago.

On Hold in Fort Worth, Texas said: I referred a friend of mine to Fluor for a plumbers job. He was told by some one that his "colorful past" would get him DQd by Fluor even if he passed the OPM check, regardless of how long ago it was. Can anyone validate that?

Hi, do you have a contact in Fluor for plumbers??? I have one name but have no success. I would appreciate any help.

dmure in Glasgow, United Kingdom said: Hi, do you have a contact in Fluor for plumbers??? I have one name but have no success. I would appreciate any help.

I'm a sparky. Do recruiters handle certain trades?

On Hold in Fort Worth, Texas said: I'm a sparky. Do recruiters handle certain trades?

im not sure, im guessing if they do not then they will pass to the appropriate person, my friend is a spark with Fluor out in Afghan but his recruiter left before he could refer me, but i know he got another plumber a job before i decided to apply.

dmure in Glasgow, United Kingdom said: im not sure, im guessing if they do not then they will pass to the appropriate person, my friend is a spark with Fluor out in Afghan but his recruiter left before he could refer me, but i know he got another plumber a job before i decided to apply.

Is there a way you can send me a private email? I think I will be deploying with another company after all but don't want to get swamped with emails.

German09 in San Antonio, Texas said: if you 2 are with flour just like to know how long you 2 been waiting. Misery loves company. Waiting on adjudication now.

Subitted 7/11, today 7/20 no further action required. Long way 2 go. Patience is a virtue if your working.

dmure in Glasgow, United Kingdom said: im not sure, im guessing if they do not then they will pass to the appropriate person, my friend is a spark with Fluor out in Afghan but his recruiter left before he could refer me, but i know he got another plumber a job before i decided to apply.

Not exactly true. I hoped it would have been a common procedure, but I don't think the Recruiters are all working together. For example, I applied to a Req thinking they were all assigned to the same recruiter regardless of the location,I received an offer for Kuwait, but really wanted to go to Iraq or Afghanistan. I asked the recruiter if it was possible to switch to the exact position that was open for Afghanistan or Iraq and he stated that he had no idea there were positions opened in Afghanistan and basically couldn't help me. Has anyone had this issue?

steves wife in Michigan said: waiting on the government as in release of funds? that is what my husband is waiting on.

Ma'am, is this for the LOGCAP contract? You might want to have someone clarify because I've never heard of ant hold-up of funds for the time being. Are you sure your getting the straight story? It sounds a little funny.

On Hold in Fort Worth, Texas said: You cannot "get your status" from OPM. You can go to their website and call their phone number, select option 1, then 3, and get referred to your company's security office.

At least it's something to do while we wait.

This is 100% false. You most certainly can call the OPM office and request information as to the status of your investigation. They will ask that you write out some basic info, name, DOB, SSN...etc. Then you hand sign it, fax it to their office and they will then give you any info about your case you feel you need to have.

That's it..Not another online test tonight. Each time I finish a section, another 40 or so online training modules pop up.

On Hold in Fort Worth, Texas said: Is there a way you can send me a private email? I think I will be deploying with another company after all but don't want to get swamped with emails.

Hey, Are you waiting for training there in Fort Worth for DynCorp, and when does it start, maybe on the 1st of Aug?

On Hold in Fort Worth, Texas said: You cannot "get your status" from OPM. You can go to their website and call their phone number, select option 1, then 3, and get referred to your company's security office.

At least it's something to do while we wait.

I can tell you with 100% accuracy you are wrong. You call the freedom of information act office. If you have sent in the proper paperwork then you push option 7000 and then option 5. They will tell you if your investigation is open or closed.. your status. They will give you the dates it entered each status. For instance- mine closed on July 15th. I found this out by calling, and I know I am not the only one here that knows this, it's no deep dark secret. Since you apparently don't want to do the work, I'll do it for you. Apologies are accepted between 9 and 5 cdt
Here is the link www.opm.gov/investigate/contact/index.aspx

J-Dub in Afghanistan said: This is 100% false. You most certainly can call the OPM office and request information as to the status of your investigation. They will ask that you write out some basic info, name, DOB, SSN...etc. Then you hand sign it, fax it to their office and they will then give you any info about your case you feel you need to have.

Thanks for the back-up.. Worded mine almost the same too lol. I made it as easy as I could and posted the link with the info on it..

Ledisi Williams in Austin, Texas said: Not exactly true. I hoped it would have been a common procedure, but I don't think the Recruiters are all working together. For example, I applied to a Req thinking they were all assigned to the same recruiter regardless of the location,I received an offer for Kuwait, but really wanted to go to Iraq or Afghanistan. I asked the recruiter if it was possible to switch to the exact position that was open for Afghanistan or Iraq and he stated that he had no idea there were positions opened in Afghanistan and basically couldn't help me. Has anyone had this issue?

I noticed that on the Dyn Corp page when I was scouting it- there is a number of positions in Iraq and Kuwait.. Avoidable- kuwait doesn't have the good hazard pay and Iraq is a lame duck about to get finished off.

German09 in San Antonio, Texas said: if you 2 are with flour just like to know how long you 2 been waiting. Misery loves company. Waiting on adjudication now.

Nothing today?? I got a better contact for Rock Island. I'll be calling in the morning to see if I can get an idea of their current backlog and some insight into the process. Wish me luck- I'll pass on anything of relevance here when I get up in the evening.

my email address is dmure@hotmail.com thanks for you help.

Jason in Kansasville, Wisconsin said: That's it..Not another online test tonight. Each time I finish a section, another 40 or so online training modules pop up.

Sounds like the training program my current employer uses... If I take the trade related courses I get some sort of remedial for every question I miss... Sad thing is so out of date it's asking questions about equipment I haven't even heard of before lol.

HVAC_2 in Tacoma, Washington said: Nothing today?? I got a better contact for Rock Island. I'll be calling in the morning to see if I can get an idea of their current backlog and some insight into the process. Wish me luck- I'll pass on anything of relevance here when I get up in the evening.

you sound resourceful...thanks..keep us in the loop

Contract Worker in Nashville, Tennessee said: Ma'am, is this for the LOGCAP contract? You might want to have someone clarify because I've never heard of ant hold-up of funds for the time being. Are you sure your getting the straight story? It sounds a little funny.

Yes, this is a position as an electrician with for LOGCAP. I am not sure why we would be told a story, but plenty of people say this does not sound right.

steves wife in Michigan said: Yes, this is a position as an electrician with for LOGCAP. I am not sure why we would be told a story, but plenty of people say this does not sound right.

Fluor might be short of a few things, but money isnt one of them.