LOGCAP IV INFO

Less that a week--- Waiting on travel itinerary and another packet of paperwork.... so much to do, so little time so I'm off here a bit. I'll be back as time allows. Adios!

plumber in Apo said: that's funny I was in GV 3 weeks ago and I took the nccer

U took next to the last test... Ended two weeks ago, But for those of you that are in doubt by all means study for it ... Just might help once your in theater..

For those of you that are coming it GV next week. Plan on $7:50 a day for lunch brought in for training or go to the store when you get here and get some stuff to pack a lunch. You won't be able to leave the site for lunch

eat tuna,It's good.

Rockaway Beach, NY in Sacramento, California said: eat tuna,It's good.

Get a sawzall,best tool you can get for fences. Later

Majek in South Carolina said: For those of you that are coming it GV next week. Plan on $7:50 a day for lunch brought in for training or go to the store when you get here and get some stuff to pack a lunch. You won't be able to leave the site for lunch

So,who cares about lunch. Wanna get to Afghahi., Make life as it comes.. Food. No Food!

lcgipson in Austin, Texas said: Here's a couple of links where you can download the SF85 & SF86 forms;

www.opm.gov/forms/

www.gsa.gov/forms

Born in Austin

Rockaway Beach, NY in Sacramento, California said: Born in Austin

Yes, Born in Austin, Parent's were AF. Well I Love Texas, But I hope the Bills kick Butt. I love this Country! Football is the best thing that can make people kill each other! KC vs Bills! Yes!
Anyhow, Hope You Guy's in-Country are AOK! Your the Best! Gotta Go, Later

kevin in Prescott, Arizona said: hey Cam A, i get the impression from your posts that your in the "sand" now, and that your a plumber, so i got questions, if you wouldn't mind. that NCCER test? level 1 or 2? you say fluor is best? and hey how long from submit to sand? 6 months? 8? anyway any info you could send my way would be appreciated.

Not sure what level NCCER I took although I'm now hearing as of two weeks ago they no longer test through NCCER. Fluor first emailed me on or around November 20th 2009 while I was in Iraq with KBR. I demobed the next day and I was in Greenville on December 20th '09. I landed in Afghanistan on Jan. 27th 2010.

Hi, my husband is in Iraq, I know there has been a lot of trouble there today and I'm concerned, he is a plumber on the main base and I have not heard from him! Do they shut off communication and if so for how long. He has not been out there long, so kinda new to this.

Majek in South Carolina said: For those of you that are coming it GV next week. Plan on $7:50 a day for lunch brought in for training or go to the store when you get here and get some stuff to pack a lunch. You won't be able to leave the site for lunch

Thanks for the heads up.

! in Sacramento, California said: Yes, Born in Austin, Parent's were AF. Well I Love Texas, But I hope the Bills kick Butt. I love this Country! Football is the best thing that can make people kill each other! KC vs Bills! Yes!
Anyhow, Hope You Guy's in-Country are AOK! Your the Best! Gotta Go, Later

Not a chiefs fan by any stretch... don't like to see them win because I have to hear about it all week long, but i think I'd side with KC over Buffalo... even if we played 3rd string all game long... that being said.. GO SEAHAWKS. confusing? probably..

dmure in Glasgow, United Kingdom said: Hi, my husband is in Iraq, I know there has been a lot of trouble there today and I'm concerned, he is a plumber on the main base and I have not heard from him! Do they shut off communication and if so for how long. He has not been out there long, so kinda new to this.

If and when there is an attack there is usually a period of commo blackout while any families are informed in an attempt to slow enemy intelligence and ensure families are notified before news reports.. If and when- that doesn't mean anything, in Iraq as fall and winter start to come in there is frequent dust storms that engulf the country.. they ground flights, screw up your breathing, and most importantly wreak commo havoc on the normal communications available to soldiers/civilians on the ground for non-official purposes. No reason to sweat or worry.

Besides- the attacks you read about on yahoo where in civilian areas, not on the FOBS we would be working on.

Hey HVAC.. Good morning.. have you weighed your bag? if so what does it weigh.. I've decided to go with two duffel bags and split all my stuff between the two bags. I remember a post by Duke informing us that he knew two people who's bags were lost enroute. I thought this would be a total bummer.. My bags weigh about 22lbs each and carried on the shoulder, seem very light.

Based on a previous posting, may I suggest taking a Red Light flashlight. As a sparky, I've always carried a AA maglight so I bought the adaptor kit for it which comes with a red light lense.

HVAC_2 in Tacoma, Washington said: Hmmm Lawyer, Reporter, or someone with too much time on their hands?

Nope, not too much time. I'm a federal agent, specifically tasked to investigate frauds, briberies and public corruption. I've spent time looking at the major LOGCAP contractors and when I was in Afghanistan, ALWAYS had someone, like you all knocking on my office door. Usually they would report their supervisor making off with lots of parts, taking money to use certain vendors or doing substandard work to keep their hours down, making themselves look better. Meanwhile the soldier is getting crappy living quarters or screwed one way or another.

Although this says "Woodbridge, VA", I'm in Federal Way.

So, yes, if you know of some crap going on, I'd love to hear about it. Most of you when you go over, as part of your briefing, you'll hear from one of my counteparts from the International Contract Corruption Task Force, we're at a base near you.

HVAC_2 in Tacoma, Washington said: Curious- did you check your credit reports and make sure EVERYTHING is accurate and you gave them all they asked for that was within the time frames? For the SF85P they pulled Trans-union. In the end, the credit may or may not get you disqualified... but you want to be up front and not get caught suprised.. there is a letter floating around from someone who was denied and it was all related to things they failed to disclose and the pattern of failed disclosure was cited in the reasons.. you can probably find it on google.

Ok so this morning my husband talked to his recruiter again they are having him to an 85 through equip for a CAC?? again they made this sound like a quick process and said credit wasnt a factor but criminal history, employment, prior residences and references were... also he was given his offer and they e-mailed a copy too... What is a CAC and is this what takes months??

Isaac in Woodbridge, Virginia said: Nope, not too much time. I'm a federal agent, specifically tasked to investigate frauds, briberies and public corruption. I've spent time looking at the major LOGCAP contractors and when I was in Afghanistan, ALWAYS had someone, like you all knocking on my office door. Usually they would report their supervisor making off with lots of parts, taking money to use certain vendors or doing substandard work to keep their hours down, making themselves look better. Meanwhile the soldier is getting crappy living quarters or screwed one way or another.

Although this says "Woodbridge, VA", I'm in Federal Way.

So, yes, if you know of some crap going on, I'd love to hear about it. Most of you when you go over, as part of your briefing, you'll hear from one of my counteparts from the International Contract Corruption Task Force, we're at a base near you.

Now, now Isaac...stop messing around. You know you aren't a federal agent and the people on this board know you aren't a federal agent.

Lezune in Coquille, Oregon said: Ok so this morning my husband talked to his recruiter again they are having him to an 85 through equip for a CAC?? again they made this sound like a quick process and said credit wasnt a factor but criminal history, employment, prior residences and references were... also he was given his offer and they e-mailed a copy too... What is a CAC and is this what takes months??

CAC is a civilian access card. It's not a short process- Your CAC processes through OPM and adjudicates at Rock Island Armory where the 86 passes through a program called DISCO. It takes roughly 10 days after you clear medical and dental to get your EQIP invite. You fill in your info on the printed sheets, the industrial security rep gives you the OK.. you fill it out on the EQIP they review it and give you any changes or a go.. You submit, follow instructions and fax/upload your signature sheets. Another 10 days passes give or take and you get a NO further action email if everything is received.. Then the wait. It took me 8.5 weeks from no further action to favorable adjudication. Then you sit and wait lol. Be patient- this board is really good for helping ease anxieties. Good luck to you... oh ya- credit is much more of an issue on the 86 than the 85p.. but there is no interim for the 85p unfortunately.

Isaac in Woodbridge, Virginia said: Nope, not too much time. I'm a federal agent, specifically tasked to investigate frauds, briberies and public corruption. I've spent time looking at the major LOGCAP contractors and when I was in Afghanistan, ALWAYS had someone, like you all knocking on my office door. Usually they would report their supervisor making off with lots of parts, taking money to use certain vendors or doing substandard work to keep their hours down, making themselves look better. Meanwhile the soldier is getting crappy living quarters or screwed one way or another.

Although this says "Woodbridge, VA", I'm in Federal Way.

So, yes, if you know of some crap going on, I'd love to hear about it. Most of you when you go over, as part of your briefing, you'll hear from one of my counteparts from the International Contract Corruption Task Force, we're at a base near you.

I am not interested in playing the role of a whistle blower, snitch, or anything else that could potentially affect or otherwise compromise the safety and/or job security of myself, or any other potential or current contractors from any company. Best of luck to you, but there is more than enough corruption in local organizations to keep the government busy.

Littletont in Littleton, Colorado said: Based on a previous posting, may I suggest taking a Red Light flashlight. As a sparky, I've always carried a AA maglight so I bought the adaptor kit for it which comes with a red light lense.

I haven't weighed in yet- I'm packing as light as I can manage, but if the weight becomes too much for one back I'll break it into 2... Remember things like razors can't be in carry ons! I was going to carry on my back, but I don't want to leave behind my razor I got on fathers day. Also remember- smaller bags are more likely to get swiped.. larger bags are more likely to get tossed in Dubai... You'll open your bag after Dubai find it disheveled with an inspection ticket on your clothes lol. They normally cut TSA locks regardless.. How's the license renewal going?

Oh- lights.. I carry a small mag too- but I bought an energizer headband LED for 10 bucks at lowes.. it has red and normal LEDs..
More portable than a mag, and less tempting for someone to snatch lol

HVAC_2 in Tacoma, Washington said: CAC is a civilian access card. It's not a short process- Your CAC processes through OPM and adjudicates at Rock Island Armory where the 86 passes through a program called DISCO. It takes roughly 10 days after you clear medical and dental to get your EQIP invite. You fill in your info on the printed sheets, the industrial security rep gives you the OK.. you fill it out on the EQIP they review it and give you any changes or a go.. You submit, follow instructions and fax/upload your signature sheets. Another 10 days passes give or take and you get a NO further action email if everything is received.. Then the wait. It took me 8.5 weeks from no further action to favorable adjudication. Then you sit and wait lol. Be patient- this board is really good for helping ease anxieties. Good luck to you... oh ya- credit is much more of an issue on the 86 than the 85p.. but there is no interim for the 85p unfortunately.

:) alright 8wks isnt bad... I have heard of a few coming quicker and a few taking longer :) I was just surprised from submittion to offer and now Med/Dent its only been 8 days...

Yipes now im really confused :S in the e-mail we recieve there is talk about a temporary CAC card ... that can be granted quickly?? I suppose we'll find out either way.. but I wish I knew for personal sanity lol... So perhaps there is a speedy 85 ... am not sure.. also it states that the NCCER? is not longer required for electricians at this time..

HVAC_2 in Tacoma, Washington said: I haven't weighed in yet- I'm packing as light as I can manage, but if the weight becomes too much for one back I'll break it into 2... Remember things like razors can't be in carry ons! I was going to carry on my back, but I don't want to leave behind my razor I got on fathers day. Also remember- smaller bags are more likely to get swiped.. larger bags are more likely to get tossed in Dubai... You'll open your bag after Dubai find it disheveled with an inspection ticket on your clothes lol. They normally cut TSA locks regardless.. How's the license renewal going?

Oh- lights.. I carry a small mag too- but I bought an energizer headband LED for 10 bucks at lowes.. it has red and normal LEDs..
More portable than a mag, and less tempting for someone to snatch lol

License renewal is done. Took the test back in July and passed but renewal process just started today. Woke up early, logged onto DORA, paid my dues.. License should be here in 10 days.. Looking more and more like 9/11 (of all days) will be the day.

Lezune in Coquille, Oregon said: Yipes now im really confused :S in the e-mail we recieve there is talk about a temporary CAC card ... that can be granted quickly?? I suppose we'll find out either way.. but I wish I knew for personal sanity lol... So perhaps there is a speedy 85 ... am not sure.. also it states that the NCCER? is not longer required for electricians at this time..

Based on what you just stated ' temp CAC card' and 'granted quickly', looks like an 86.

Wow, all. We just received some sombering news today after training about the future of the contract/ We were told they are going to start downsizing the reduction of expatriates (U.S.) and some of us might be able to finish out our one year contracts..kind of hit hard to a lot of us knowing they are outsourcing to FNs...I thought I had a good year on the contract...

Lezune in Coquille, Oregon said: :) alright 8wks isnt bad... I have heard of a few coming quicker and a few taking longer :) I was just surprised from submittion to offer and now Med/Dent its only been 8 days...

Medical dental came quick.. It's the fed background check that takes the most time... If it puts it into perspective my official offer and email was May 6th and I am just now flying next week. The fastest legit times I have seen where around 7.5 weeks from the no further action email. By legit I mean the one person claiming it took 2 weeks couldn't have with an 85p... You figure that they take several days to start, your credit will be pulled after the no further action and your contacts and employers have to get their notices and send them back. It also takes time to process in Rock Island.. they are very busy right now and there is no priority listing or expedited processing.. Some companies will move you without your CAC card and you'll have a sponsor basically on base from what I've read. It does get you over faster, but your limited with your access. Dyn Corp does it that way.

Lezune in Coquille, Oregon said: Yipes now im really confused :S in the e-mail we recieve there is talk about a temporary CAC card ... that can be granted quickly?? I suppose we'll find out either way.. but I wish I knew for personal sanity lol... So perhaps there is a speedy 85 ... am not sure.. also it states that the NCCER? is not longer required for electricians at this time..

I've never heard of a temporary cac card. Even on stateside installations there was a wait and tons of forms for approval.. but who knows.. I certainly didn't get it. I wouldn't expect it to be quick, plenty of trades people that have been in the que for months already.

DI DEAN Weiniker in Ada, Oklahoma said: Wow, all. We just received some sombering news today after training about the future of the contract/ We were told they are going to start downsizing the reduction of expatriates (U.S.) and some of us might be able to finish out our one year contracts..kind of hit hard to a lot of us knowing they are outsourcing to FNs...I thought I had a good year on the contract...

Not sure why you're posting that on here. People come in every so many weeks with similar posts. It's common knowledge that the troops are being drawn out.. but think of this. There is still expat contractors in Iraq and the troop drawdown started right after Obama got elected.. It's not instant and really with the amount of turnover it would involve less hiring- not sending people home right away. They HAVE to tell you it's an open ended contract and you can be cut at anytime. I heard the same thing from KBR in 2005...

No offense- but most on here have learned to just ignore posts like this.. if I get sent home early so be it.. I'll fly into canada get my passport stamped and catch a ferry into Washinton....

Littletont in Littleton, Colorado said: Based on what you just stated ' temp CAC card' and 'granted quickly', looks like an 86.

Sounds right..

Littletont in Littleton, Colorado said: License renewal is done. Took the test back in July and passed but renewal process just started today. Woke up early, logged onto DORA, paid my dues.. License should be here in 10 days.. Looking more and more like 9/11 (of all days) will be the day.

You would think they would accept a transcript with a PASS score in lieu of the license and you could have it overnighted to you in GV to speed up the process..

DI DEAN Weiniker in Ada, Oklahoma said: Wow, all. We just received some sombering news today after training about the future of the contract/ We were told they are going to start downsizing the reduction of expatriates (U.S.) and some of us might be able to finish out our one year contracts..kind of hit hard to a lot of us knowing they are outsourcing to FNs...I thought I had a good year on the contract...

hmmm which company do you work for, and what trade if I can ask?

Lezune in Coquille, Oregon said: Yipes now im really confused :S in the e-mail we recieve there is talk about a temporary CAC card ... that can be granted quickly?? I suppose we'll find out either way.. but I wish I knew for personal sanity lol... So perhaps there is a speedy 85 ... am not sure.. also it states that the NCCER? is not longer required for electricians at this time..

The stuff your saying sounds contradictory to itself.. it sounds like you still have info on the SF86 when your now processing through an SF85p.... Have him get the accurate info from your recruiter... I don't think any one of us, electrician, HVAC, Plumber, etc is so important they would go out of there way on anything special lol... Just go with what the recruiter told him... if it's an 86 and you're granted interim you'll be quick, like 4-6 weeks or less... if it's an SF 85p expect a few months total. Best of luck. Don't be too quick to get rid of your husband, you'll miss him when he is gone!

Lezune in Coquille, Oregon said: hmmm which company do you work for, and what trade if I can ask?

Don't sweat message like that- People come and post them every few weeks, short arguments ensue and then it's over and they disappear. No telling what will happen- Trick is to get it while you can and prove yourself useful when you're on the ground.

HVAC_2 in Tacoma, Washington said: Don't sweat message like that- People come and post them every few weeks, short arguments ensue and then it's over and they disappear. No telling what will happen- Trick is to get it while you can and prove yourself useful when you're on the ground.

agreed :) This whole process is new to me and I tend to be the curious one... wanna know whats gonna happen and when...sorry to come across nosey :p..

HVAC_2 in Tacoma, Washington said: Don't sweat message like that- People come and post them every few weeks, short arguments ensue and then it's over and they disappear. No telling what will happen- Trick is to get it while you can and prove yourself useful when you're on the ground.

Check your email I sent some thing to it.

HVAC_2 in Tacoma, Washington said: You would think they would accept a transcript with a PASS score in lieu of the license and you could have it overnighted to you in GV to speed up the process..

Yes.. typical red tape.. but it's kinda ok with me.. because it seems by the time I get there, it should be around the first week of October.. and the temps should be dropping. Having lived in CO for 19 years now, I Like cold. I've worked outside when it was 20 below.. as long as you have the right clothes and gear.. but when it's hot, there is nothing you can do... This will give me a chance to work myself into the climate.

HVAC_2 in Tacoma, Washington said: Not sure why you're posting that on here. People come in every so many weeks with similar posts. It's common knowledge that the troops are being drawn out.. but think of this. There is still expat contractors in Iraq and the troop drawdown started right after Obama got elected.. It's not instant and really with the amount of turnover it would involve less hiring- not sending people home right away. They HAVE to tell you it's an open ended contract and you can be cut at anytime. I heard the same thing from KBR in 2005...

No offense- but most on here have learned to just ignore posts like this.. if I get sent home early so be it.. I'll fly into canada get my passport stamped and catch a ferry into Washinton....

Sorry. It just kind of floored a lot of us here in GV (no pun intended.)

HVAC_2 in Tacoma, Washington said: The stuff your saying sounds contradictory to itself.. it sounds like you still have info on the SF86 when your now processing through an SF85p.... Have him get the accurate info from your recruiter... I don't think any one of us, electrician, HVAC, Plumber, etc is so important they would go out of there way on anything special lol... Just go with what the recruiter told him... if it's an 86 and you're granted interim you'll be quick, like 4-6 weeks or less... if it's an SF 85p expect a few months total. Best of luck. Don't be too quick to get rid of your husband, you'll miss him when he is gone!

Mind my asking, Sir...who the heck are you? People talk about you and this blogsite and your not up there with the most favorable of people. Most people think your a wanabee and fraud. yes, not everyone but a few of us check this forum out and have compared our notes. Basicaly, the conclusion is your an idiot and you should shut up

HVAC_2 in Tacoma, Washington said: I've never heard of a temporary cac card. Even on stateside installations there was a wait and tons of forms for approval.. but who knows.. I certainly didn't get it. I wouldn't expect it to be quick, plenty of trades people that have been in the que for months already.

Hey bud, I'm not Dean but I'm with him and some others after a day of training Were just going to use his account for the moment but yea, your an idiot giving people bull advice. Who the heck are you and I very much doubt you'll ever get on with Fluor. In fact, I doubt you are going to go anywhere anytime soon. People listen with open ears to this fool...

Lezune in Coquille, Oregon said: hmmm which company do you work for, and what trade if I can ask?

I'm with Fluor but not officialy yet...We have to pass training first...I'm in trades but hired for MWR...one of the only ones in the services division..

DI DEAN Weiniker in Ada, Oklahoma said: I'm with Fluor but not officialy yet...We have to pass training first...I'm in trades but hired for MWR...one of the only ones in the services division..

Same Dean as in DKH10001 or whatever I assume. Not sure why your in GV if your with DI.. do what you got to do- no more time for drama with anyone.. So you and your other personalities can keep my name out of your mouth when your talking, or you can bring your concerns personally to me next weekend. Thanks.

Well I got an email from the recruiter, but the problem is I'm not universal Certified, She want me to email her the documents and my passport. I hope she can find some thing for me. I'm type 1&2 Certified.

Cornelius in Stone Mountain, Georgia said: Well I got an email from the recruiter, but the problem is I'm not universal Certified, She want me to email her the documents and my passport. I hope she can find some thing for me. I'm type 1&2 Certified.

Ya, go take the part III test!! It's not too hard, just study up.. you might have to redo the general part with it again, I don't know.

Does every one find their extended families fairly supportive , mine not so much... Sorry if this has been asked before ... Seems a lot of people gave negative outlooks on it :( my parents being one of them.... Oh well, anybody else go through that ?

HVAC_2 in Tacoma, Washington said: Same Dean as in DKH10001 or whatever I assume. Not sure why your in GV if your with DI.. do what you got to do- no more time for drama with anyone.. So you and your other personalities can keep my name out of your mouth when your talking, or you can bring your concerns personally to me next weekend. Thanks.

Your not going anywhere bud...keep posting and then disapear

DI DEAN Weiniker in Ada, Oklahoma said: Hey bud, I'm not Dean but I'm with him and some others after a day of training Were just going to use his account for the moment but yea, your an idiot giving people bull advice. Who the heck are you and I very much doubt you'll ever get on with Fluor. In fact, I doubt you are going to go anywhere anytime soon. People listen with open ears to this fool...

Ohhh.. I remember you.. If you cleared in 2 weeks good for you... Not the same for a bunch of us. Did you do the SF86 form? I make it clear- my time frames are based on my own experience... I would gladly post the info on here that's fine.. I suppose if a person had one address and one employer for the past 10 years it would go fast too... idk what your situation is, but no sense getting peoples hopes up.. 9 of 10 people on here can tell you that's not the norm for processing as we all had to wait 2-3 months. No sense dogging on me. I'm not here to start drama, just chatting with the people I have met along the way... Oh.. I have experience BTW.. worked in Iraq as an HVAC mechanic in 05,06,07 and 08. You're right about Afghanistan, I have never been there. Learning like everyone else.. I am familiar with military travel however, and international/domestic travel... worked a couple jobs where I had to travel extensively. You can help others by giving accurate real-time advice from GV rather than taking time to bash me. I'm just trying to help- take what you want. If you feel that someone else has better info, good, listen to them. That's the benefit of diversity on this board.

DI DEAN Weiniker in Ada, Oklahoma said: Your not going anywhere bud...keep posting and then disapear

What's that the kids say.. PWned!!

Good afternoon. TRS has received confirmation from Fluor that you will be
arriving in Greenville, SC this weekend for your upcoming assignment on the
LOGCAP project for Afghanistan. Please confirm the following information
so that we may activate you in our payroll system and have everything ready
for you to arrive in Greenville, SC. Just type the information in an email
and respond back to me. Please respond to this email as quickly as
possible.

HVAC_2 in Tacoma, Washington said: Ya, go take the part III test!! It's not too hard, just study up.. you might have to redo the general part with it again, I don't know.

That's what I'm going to do. I'm studying for it now.

HVAC_2 in Tacoma, Washington said: What's that the kids say.. PWned!!

Good afternoon. TRS has received confirmation from Fluor that you will be
arriving in Greenville, SC this weekend for your upcoming assignment on the
LOGCAP project for Afghanistan. Please confirm the following information
so that we may activate you in our payroll system and have everything ready
for you to arrive in Greenville, SC. Just type the information in an email
and respond back to me. Please respond to this email as quickly as
possible.

Yea, for you and us...that means you will stop posting!!! Say goodbye fool. We're not leaving until 2 weeks so I guess will see the class of 12 coming in and be looking for you