LOGCAP IV INFO

LouseLogic in Irvine, California said: Hello Everyone,

I have read thru every page of this forum and it has helped a lot. I was hired by Fluor as a contract management technician in Afghan and will be leaving for Greenville, SC February 27th.

Has anyone else in this forum worked for a job that isnt a Trade, DFAC or driving? What has your experience been after your year is up? I have a friend out there right now working as project specialist and he will not have a job at his home office even though he is TIER I and was already a Fluor employee prior going to his Logcap positon.

Also, does Fluor offer any 401k for Tier II guys? I am fairly young and just graduated with an MBA, yet could not find a job for over a year. My hopes is getting field experience will kick start my career.

Welcome to contracting.

What happens at the end of a year. You stay here or look for another job. That's it, this isn't a career, 1 in 1000 end up working for their companies once they go home. Your 401k will be your bank account, whatever you want to do with it. There isn't anything that most of these companies offer. Most will sponsor a small life insurance policy. You will have to sign up for medical insurance that you have to pay for, not an option.

JD_txstyle in Apo said: Can anyone tell me how are the living conditions in FOB Salerno??? It look like thats where I'm going to be set to. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

I was at FOB Sharana last year. Salerno is small. To sum it all up, its "rocket city". They have alot of rocket attacks

Roo1 in Texas said: Has anyone heard of a tax guy with company name Palazzo & Co. Has anyone ever used them? I think his first name is Steven, word is he's the best at doing taxes for expats. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Hi yes we used them last year and had lots of success, and plan to use them this yr. Cost 450.00 but they took care of everything as far as filing an extension so my husband got his exemptions. They also followed up--reminding us when to send in our taxes--which actually they did they just followed up to make sure my husband was only been in the US for the 35 days--in case his plans had changed, you know. But I would highly recommend them. =) Best of luck.

Koko Wilson in Altamonte Springs, Florida said: Hi yes we used them last year and had lots of success, and plan to use them this yr. Cost 450.00 but they took care of everything as far as filing an extension so my husband got his exemptions. They also followed up--reminding us when to send in our taxes--which actually they did they just followed up to make sure my husband was only been in the US for the 35 days--in case his plans had changed, you know. But I would highly recommend them. =) Best of luck.

Thanks that's what I was looking for something from a wife. I now know from experience that when the wrong guy does them it is the wife who has to deal with the IRS. Don't want to do that again. Thanks again, Roo

Hope to be going over soon as an electrician once all the paper work clears. Do you typically run conduit and pull wire or are you installing cables and cam locks?
I know we are working 12 hour days just wondering what is the start time?

jjamesbarnes in Jacksonville, Florida said: Hope to be going over soon as an electrician once all the paper work clears. Do you typically run conduit and pull wire or are you installing cables and cam locks?
I know we are working 12 hour days just wondering what is the start time?

Who you going over with?

Ms Shocker in San Antonio, Texas said: Thanks! That is roughly what I figured it would be. I am such a planner than it drives me crazy not being sure and I need to schedule our finances.

Thanks again!

Ms Shocker.. did ur husband leave for afghan already.?? Im still waiting for my 85p to clear ask him what base he's at and his living conditions
.maybe ill meet up with him out there

the duke in Houston, Texas said: Who you going over with?

Fluor.

jjamesbarnes in Jacksonville, Florida said: Fluor.

Me tooi haven't heard about what kinda work we will be doing but im sure it wont be that hard... im in the same boat u r waiting for paper work to clear good luck!!!

the duke in Houston, Texas said: Me tooi haven't heard about what kinda work we will be doing but im sure it wont be that hard... im in the same boat u r waiting for paper work to clear good luck!!!

I currently have a job but I can't wait to go over there. Have you already picked up a foot locker or are you getting one over there?

the duke in Houston, Texas said: Ms Shocker.. did ur husband leave for afghan already.?? Im still waiting for my 85p to clear ask him what base he's at and his living conditions
.maybe ill meet up with him out there

My husband is actually in GV right now. Just started his processing. They told him he should be there for 10 days. Let me know if you guys have any questions about processing and I will try to help. :)

the duke in Houston, Texas said: Me tooi haven't heard about what kinda work we will be doing but im sure it wont be that hard... im in the same boat u r waiting for paper work to clear good luck!!!

Guys type of work you do over here is basically Construction, Maintance and Repair, or Technical Inspections. Now you will not know what group you will be in until you are in country. A little of advise, no matter what Greenville tell you, PACK LIGHT. All of us here are having to send back clothes and bags that Greenville told us to bring on their little packing list. Be patience with the process, it takes a while until you get over here, but again certain groups vary in time.

Can someone please tell me how to get a job in flour,or other contractors working in the middle east.I have a 10 year military experience and a security clearance as well.

Can someone please tell me how to get a job in flour or other contractors working in the middle east?i have a 10 year military experience and a security clerance as well.

Ms Shocker in San Antonio, Texas said: My husband is actually in GV right now. Just started his processing. They told him he should be there for 10 days. Let me know if you guys have any questions about processing and I will try to help. :)

How many hours per day is the training? My wife suggested me driving up there to have some transportation and her flying up the last couple of days then she would drive it home. She'll be coming up toward the end of training regardless. I really have no idea at this point what to expect in GV. When should we see our first pay check?

JD_txstyle in Houston, Texas said: Guys type of work you do over here is basically Construction, Maintance and Repair, or Technical Inspections. Now you will not know what group you will be in until you are in country. A little of advise, no matter what Greenville tell you, PACK LIGHT. All of us here are having to send back clothes and bags that Greenville told us to bring on their little packing list. Be patience with the process, it takes a while until you get over here,
but again certain groups vary in time.

Y did y'all have to send stuff back after u got in country? Too much to carry with u? Their little list says like 2 weeks of clothes. Since ur already out there what do u suggest for all us newbies that r gonna be there in the near future?

jjamesbarnes in Jacksonville, Florida said: I currently have a job but I can't wait to go over there. Have you already picked up a foot locker or are you getting one over there?

Dude just get one over there or have the wife send it to u it would be a pain in the ass to drag that thing through all the check points and stuff. I plan on getting one while im out there

jjamesbarnes in Jacksonville, Florida said: How many hours per day is the training? My wife suggested me driving up there to have some transportation and her flying up the last couple of days then she would drive it home. She'll be coming up toward the end of training regardless. I really have no idea at this point what to expect in GV. When should we see our first pay check?[/QUOTE

The training is 12 hours a day, 7 days a week. My husband is an Electrician so I am not sure if it is the same for everyone. His class is Electricians only. Honestly, from what we are seeing now, there will be no time to drive around and definitely no need. The hotel shuttle will take you where you need to go. My husband even said they would take him to the local shopping area to pick up a few things. More than likely you will have a roommate so if your wife makes a trip up she will have to get another room. If you guys live really close it may be worth it (I wish I could see him one last time before he goes) but not sure it would be worth it if your talking driving up from Florida.

Husband was told 1st check would take about 3 weeks but would include overtime for the 12 hour days and per diem of a little over $50 a day.

Ms Shocker in San Antonio, Texas said:

What did ur husband take with him did he pack for two weeks worth?

the duke in Houston, Texas said: Dude just get one over there or have the wife send it to u it would be a pain in the ass to drag that thing through all the check points and stuff. I plan on getting one while im out there

Right the plan was to have wife send it. I was not going to carry it. Thanks.

the duke in Houston, Texas said: Y did y'all have to send stuff back after u got in country? Too much to carry with u? Their little list says like 2 weeks of clothes. Since ur already out there what do u suggest for all us newbies that r gonna be there in the near future?

4 jeans 6 long sleeve cotton shirts (if doing electrical work) 10 pairs of undies and shocks, 2 towels, and toiletries! That should sum up to one check-in bag and one carry on (GV will give you a packback for your fluor laptop, I use that one to carry my personal comp as well). eventhough GV tells you 2~50lbs bags, you dont want to be carrying all that stuff with you. Alot of stuff you can buy in country in BAF, before you go to your FOB. We all here wear our jeans and outer shirts about 3 to 4 times before we wash them, since its cold you dont sweat. I shower and change my underwear daily, can't say the same for everyone here! :/
Hope that help! Goodluck.

Gone Fishing in Forsyth, Georgia said: Welcome to contracting.

What happens at the end of a year. You stay here or look for another job. That's it, this isn't a career, 1 in 1000 end up working for their companies once they go home. Your 401k will be your bank account, whatever you want to do with it. There isn't anything that most of these companies offer. Most will sponsor a small life insurance policy. You will have to sign up for medical insurance that you have to pay for, not an option.

Thanks Gone, you always provide good insight and advice. Too bad on that, I was really hoping to stay with Fluor after my year is up. I still dont have an exact clue what a "technician" does in contract management, but thats probably classified until I get there.

Ive seen post from you from 10-12 months ago...how long have you been out there? You coming back or is the money too good?

JD_txstyle in Apo said: 4 jeans 6 long sleeve cotton shirts (if doing electrical work) 10 pairs of undies and shocks, 2 towels, and toiletries! That should sum up to one check-in bag and one carry on (GV will give you a packback for your fluor laptop, I use that one to carry my personal comp as well). eventhough GV tells you 2~50lbs bags, you dont want to be carrying all that stuff with you. Alot of stuff you can buy in country in BAF, before you go to your FOB. We all here wear our jeans and outer shirts about 3 to 4 times before we wash them, since its cold you dont sweat. I shower and change my underwear daily, can't say the same for everyone here! :/
Hope that help! Goodluck.

First off, THANKS! This is exactly what I was looking for. The packing list they provided felt general and my buddy said he didnt use half the stuff they said to pack.

Thats odd, my recruiter told me ONE bag with less than 45lbs OR 2 bags with less than 22lbs each. My buddy used "Gorilla on Wheels" to send stuff over. How did you send your stuff out there?

Have you found a better/cheaper way to send stuff over since you've been there? I cant imagine it being cheap.

JD_txstyle in Apo said: 4 jeans 6 long sleeve cotton shirts (if doing electrical work) 10 pairs of undies and shocks, 2 towels, and toiletries! That should sum up to one check-in bag and one carry on (GV will give you a packback for your fluor laptop, I use that one to carry my personal comp as well). eventhough GV tells you 2~50lbs bags, you dont want to be carrying all that stuff with you. Alot of stuff you can buy in country in BAF, before you go to your FOB. We all here wear our jeans and outer shirts about 3 to 4 times before we wash them, since its cold you dont sweat. I shower and change my underwear daily, can't say the same for everyone here! :/
Hope that help! Goodluck.

Thanks for all your info it does help immensely so we know what we should pack

LouseLogic in Lake Forest, California said: Thanks Gone, you always provide good insight and advice. Too bad on that, I was really hoping to stay with Fluor after my year is up. I still dont have an exact clue what a "technician" does in contract management, but thats probably classified until I get there.

Ive seen post from you from 10-12 months ago...how long have you been out there? You coming back or is the money too good?

Yea, I've been around awhile, over here, over there since 04. Probably got another year left in me, then I am going to the house.

A "technician" is mainly just a job classification. You have technicians, specialist, supervisors, and managers, in that order. Some jobs classify them a little different, but for the most part they use that type of scale.

JD_txstyle in Apo said: 4 jeans 6 long sleeve cotton shirts (if doing electrical work) 10 pairs of undies and shocks, 2 towels, and toiletries! That should sum up to one check-in bag and one carry on (GV will give you a packback for your fluor laptop, I use that one to carry my personal comp as well). eventhough GV tells you 2~50lbs bags, you dont want to be carrying all that stuff with you. Alot of stuff you can buy in country in BAF, before you go to your FOB. We all here wear our jeans and outer shirts about 3to 4 times before we wash them, since its cold you dont sweat. I shower and change my underwear daily, can't say the same for everyonehere! :/
Hope that help! Goodluck.

One question u said u brought ur personal computer as well is the fluor computer that they issue u restricted to specific use in some way? ...ie limited access?

the duke in Houston, Texas said: One question u said u brought ur personal computer as well is the fluor computer that they issue u restricted to specific use in some way? ...ie limited access?

Fluor will issue a computer only for your Fluor business use. No skype, facebook, or any kind of software downloading, which limits you the amount of things you can do on that computer. Thats why I brought my small ACCER computer with me. Now once you get to your FOB you can buy internet which you can use to skype, and communicate with your family (whichever is your preference). You can use the computers at the MWR but your are limited on time and soldiers come first. Let me add, that Fluor networks blocks alot of site, including your personal email hotmail, yahoo, or gmail sites, but they do issue a Fluor email address and you are allowed to use that to communicate with your family. Again there is limitation on what you can say or send on the flour email..but oh well, this is a warzone and we are here to aid our soldiers! :)

hope that helps!

LouseLogic in Lake Forest, California said: First off, THANKS! This is exactly what I was looking for. The packing list they provided felt general and my buddy said he didnt use half the stuff they said to pack.

Thats odd, my recruiter told me ONE bag with less than 45lbs OR 2 bags with less than 22lbs each. My buddy used "Gorilla on Wheels" to send stuff over. How did you send your stuff out there?

Have you found a better/cheaper way to send stuff over since you've been there? I cant imagine it being cheap.

You can send your gorilla box on wheels ahead of you. You just have to time it right. The only problem is that you dont know what FOB you are going until you are in country in BAF, and its subject to change, depending on Fluor's need. So if I where you pack light, because you will be in a transition tent (50 to 100 man tent or b-hut, sometimes no footlockers ) once you arrive in country for about 2 weeks. Wait until you know where you going to be station at and then ask your wife to send you gorilla box. The more things you got the harder it is to keep track of it and keep it from being stolen in the transition tent.

JD_txstyle in Apo said: 4 jeans 6 long sleeve cotton shirts (if doing electrical work) 10 pairs of undies and shocks, 2 towels, and toiletries! That should sum up to one check-in bag and one carry on (GV will give you a packback for your fluor laptop, I use that one to carry my personal comp as well). eventhough GV tells you 2~50lbs bags, you dont want to be carrying all that stuff with you. Alot of stuff you can buy in country in BAF, before you go to your FOB. We all here wear our jeans and outer shirts about 3 to 4 times before we wash them, since its cold you dont sweat. I shower and change my underwear daily, can't say the same for everyone here! :/
Hope that help! Goodluck.

Great information JD. Fluor said to bring sheets, blanket and a pillow is that necessary? Can you recomend some work boots?

jjamesbarnes in Jacksonville, Florida said: How many hours per day is the training? My wife suggested me driving up there to have some transportation and her flying up the last couple of days then she would drive it home. She'll be coming up toward the end of training regardless. I really have no idea at this point what to expect in GV. When should we see our first pay check?

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Can someone please tell me how to get a job in flour or other contractors working in the middle east?i have a 10 year military experience and a security clerance as well.

jjamesbarnes in Jacksonville, Florida said: Great information JD. Fluor said to bring sheets, blanket and a pillow is that necessary? Can you recomend some work boots?

Sheets just to cover the matress is good, they give a sleeping back, so theres your blanket. I have no pillow, I use my coat rolled up as a pillow. You dont need steel toe, some guys have the military boots from swat or converse. I'm working on getting some.

I read that once your in Afghanistan it takes about two weeks to get your FOB. What do you do during that time period are you working or going through more training?

jjamesbarnes in Jacksonville, Florida said: I read that once your in Afghanistan it takes about two weeks to get your FOB. What do you do during that time period are you working or going through more training?

My husband was assigned to his FOB in about a week and Yes, he was training during his wait time.

jjamesbarnes in Jacksonville, Florida said: I read that once your in Afghanistan it takes about two weeks to get your FOB. What do you do during that time period are you working or going through more training?

Training and training and more training!

jjamesbarnes in Jacksonville, Florida said: I read that once your in Afghanistan it takes about two weeks to get your FOB. What do you do during that time period are you working or going through more training?

Sleep on bunk bed cots with 40 other guys in your tent.

How are the working hours kept up with? Do you use a time clock or sign in sheet? Typically what time do you start?
Sorry for all the questions.

Thanks

Gone Fishing in Forsyth, Georgia said: Yea, I've been around awhile, over here, over there since 04. Probably got another year left in me, then I am going to the house.

A "technician" is mainly just a job classification. You have technicians, specialist, supervisors, and managers, in that order. Some jobs classify them a little different, but for the most part they use that type of scale.

Wow...04? Good stuff.

Ahhh okay thank you. So my friend who is a project specialist is making much more than I am...

JD_txstyle in Houston, Texas said: You can send your gorilla box on wheels ahead of you. You just have to time it right. The only problem is that you dont know what FOB you are going until you are in country in BAF, and its subject to change, depending on Fluor's need. So if I where you pack light, because you will be in a transition tent (50 to 100 man tent or b-hut, sometimes no footlockers ) once you arrive in country for about 2 weeks. Wait until you know where you going to be station at and then ask your wife to send you gorilla box. The more things you got the harder it is to keep track of it and keep it from being stolen in the transition tent.

JD, do you have an email that I can send you other questions? If you arent comfortable, please email me at LouTablante@gmail.com

jjamesbarnes in Jacksonville, Florida said: I read that once your in Afghanistan it takes about two weeks to get your FOB. What do you do during that time period are you working or going through more training?

You train for the job you are doing. You dont actually train for the job in SC.

A continuation of hurry up and wait is what you will do in that time frame trying to get to your fob.

You'll have a meeting 2 or 3 times a day just to check in and get any flight info/ briefing on available bed space for your fob. Thats been the extent of what you do while waiting to get to your fob unless it changed recently.

I just recently returned to the US after working and living in Kuwait for over 6 years. I worked with Stanley and ITT as well as the Kuwaiti sponsor company of Stanley and ITT. I find it extremely hard to find any jobs. My experience is mostly administration and dealing with the local market as I speak Arabic. I have worked in the warehouses and as a production control clerk. I think my resume goes into a black hole when I apply online for jobs. Can anyone give me some advice on how to find positions in Kuwait?

I also applied online with the top four Logcap contractors for the past 4 months with no luck and I am looking for a way to get noticed. 11 Years of Logcap experience in the Balkans, Afghanistan and Iraq. Looking for Logcpap 4 employment within Procurement, Logistics or Materials. Highly qualified with 3 years of University credits in Business Management. Comment to anyone who has not been wih Logcap before: I would like to let you know that this forum is a great source of Logcap information and found that almost all of the information was spot on. Great posts!

Mdennis, just make sure to keep your resume centric on the job you are applying for. Make sure your qualities relating to the job you are applying for stand out. Keep applying is all I can suggest, it took me over a year before KBR called me up, then 2 months later the base I was assigned to transitioned and I now work for ITT.

Keep checking for jobs on ITT's website, there are administrative jobs and then there are also jobs in the SSA which would fall under your warehouse work. Job titles for SSA are warehouseman/forklift operator, Supply Clerk, Supply Technician, Supply Lead, Supply Technician. Good luck!

Thanks Jason. I've been trying for 4 years and nothing. If I do get a response there is never any follow-up. I've applied for ITT as they have over 200 jobs and I used to work for them but nothing. I keep trying, applying for jobs is more like a hobby now to pass time.

LouseLogic in Irvine, California said: JD, do you have an email that I can send you other questions? If you arent comfortable, please email me at LouTablante@gmail.com

I will try to answer your questions. I emailed you.

anybody know of info on food service worker with fluor??pay?info?applied a lot ,thanks for any info.

Ksniper777 in San Antonio, Texas said: after looking at the deal just put in your email address and hit send and wait. sorry about that info up front but if they contact they will ask you some questions in the email they send you if you are choosen.

ksnipper i have been trying to apply on fluors web site with little luck I was in the marine's a few years ago I was a bulk fueler (aircraft and ground vehicles) and in iraq the first time. I'm looking for assistance getting in with fluor? can you or anyone give any guidance?

Chris Twopher in Fremont, California said: Why you no like brah? I think Fluor Mo bettah too. Either way, be glad en to da max. K.. Many here don't have a job yet and still in line.

Are you speaking English??

Iraq contractor in Baghdad, Iraq said: Are you speaking English??

Iraq contractor,(or other fluor contractors) would you be with Fluor? If so could you email direct I'm trying to get in the door for Fuel Operator position, I'm prior marines just looking to be noticed!Any assistance will be appreciated. myarbro1@triad.rr.com