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Charles Brackett in Boaz, Alabama said: I already have a security clearance. When the company does a background check do they pull your credit? and if i am behind in payments and am only in debt like 1500 bucks I shouldnt be disqualified right?

You say you already have a security clearance? Then you should have no issues unless you have been asked to re-submit another SF86/SF 85. If you were prior military your clearance is probably showing "inactive" provided it has been less than 2 years of departure. SF 85? You need to go through the entire process regardless of time frames or agency sponsorship. The credit issue you mention should not be an issue however, it could depend on the company. For example a lot of the security companies are extra careful on their screening process and are disqualifying personnel for a $ over their timelines. This of course is due to the congress pressure to be in compliance. If you’re just going for a routine job you should be in good standing.

Gregg Pryor in Dade, Florida said: You say you already have a security clearance? Then you should have no issues unless you have been asked to re-submit another SF86/SF 85. If you were prior military your clearance is probably showing "inactive" provided it has been less than 2 years of departure. SF 85? You need to go through the entire process regardless of time frames or agency sponsorship. The credit issue you mention should not be an issue however, it could depend on the company. For example a lot of the security companies are extra careful on their screening process and are disqualifying personnel for a $ over their timelines. This of course is due to the congress pressure to be in compliance. If you’re just going for a routine job you should be in good standing.

But yes, your credit will be checked regardless of clearance. That is as long as you sign the proper forms allowing them to check.

Gone Fishing in Forsyth, Georgia said: As I think I wrote before. Never heard of "waiting for funding." Keep in mind this is not a brand new contract, it's second year is almost over and worth approximately $1.5 billion. It is much more likely that they over estimated how many people they would need and when they would need them. Each site has a manning level that is required and approved by the government. They cannot just bring as many people as they would like over and wait for someone to quit, they have to assign him somewhere basically as soon as they hire him for cost tracking. People go home for various reasons all the time, more than likely it won't take long to find him a spot to fill.

Charles Brackett in Boaz, Alabama said: I already have a security clearance. When the company does a background check do they pull your credit? and if i am behind in payments and am only in debt like 1500 bucks I shouldnt be disqualified right?

As long as it's not 120 days past due, or child support in a no travel state. I went through Houston with a guy from NC when with KBR... he found out the day we did the round about clearing and medical sign-off that because he was 2 months behind on child support in Virginia they wouldn't clear his passport (he was waiting to get one, didn't have one previously).. Something to be aware of and careful with- that has absolutely nothing to do with security but is still a travel flag.

So-- worried myself today- 5 days to certify PSIP and my IS rep decided to email rather than calling despite my graveyard shift.. Tuesday is day 5, hoping the holiday weekend doesn't count against me.. that being said- it sure looks a lot better now seeing people's processing times shrinking to less than a month! I was counting on somewhere in July but these people give me cautious optimism that I may be a June departure!

Contract Worker in Nashville, Tennessee said: She's a quack who has testified to satisfy the liberals and their agenda. She's a disgruntled ex-KBR entry-level electrician and a female. Wow for the democratic congress! She portrays herself as an avenging angel of all that's been done to contractors yet supports frauds like the people who have claimed to have been wronged by their companies. Yea read her and write to her..

Hey I am mildly liberal and I resent that comment lol.. I wouldn't dream of claiming someone who is trying to ruin everything because she became disenchanted with the situation... Personally I don't think ANYONE should be crying about their paychecks and such while over there. We all went voluntarily and signed our contracts knowing good and well what it said.. might not pay time and a half overtime- but time and 85% uplift for 40 hours isn't exactly shabby.. I met a good number of people overseas claiming they made the same money stateside.. i call BS for 90% of them. If it was this easy to pocket quick cash in the states we wouldn't dodge rockets to do it.. now would we.

Blacksnake in Winston Salem, North Carolina said: civiliancontractors.wordpress.com/reminder-to-contractors-regarding-iraqi-jurisdiction/
This is a very good web-site to get the latest updates

The prostitution thing is funny... Not to give my real life identity away, but while I was at D-7 in iraq.. Camp Quervo, the CIA spooks came in and busted a female CSM and several other senior NCO's for a hooking ring involving several local nationals working on the base.. they where also basically demanding dues from the vendors to allow them on the base.. the spooks made their move so quick virtually everyone was wondering WTF happened..

from MSSparky site "Manipulating these photos would not lend credibility to me or to the cause of getting the laws changed to protect Americans on US facilities overseas. For me…it’s all about get the NEC and OSHA to apply."

Umm... First off- that screw that is being probed with the fluke is not a ground.. it's a faceplate screw that terminates into a plastic threaded hole; not sure how that works- but isnt that the electricians job to maintain pumps and stuff?? I had a PM order on EVERY single A/C on the fob with a GS tag monthly.. found crap like that all the time.. and fixed it as I was paid to do :D
Just thinking out loud!

@German.... 25 days from submission of PSIP, or 25 days from letter saying No Further info required?

Also, was it just closed at OPM, or have you closed adjudication and everything????

can you post dates? As now I am thinking I might have to start moving my behind and start getting things situated... I was thinking I had 6 weeks at OPM and then 2 weeks at adjudication.... if you are saying you went thru everything in just a little over 3 weeks, damn!!! Changes the whole planning thing for the next couple of months.... kinda changes priorities!!!

TD- I thought he said he had his GV dates so he is all done and moving.. Pretty sure from the posts he got into the process just a short time ahead of us.. thats good news!

HVAC-2 in Kansas City, Missouri said: TD- I thought he said he had his GV dates so he is all done and moving.. Pretty sure from the posts he got into the process just a short time ahead of us.. thats good news!

Ok.. read the wrong person before. So he is done and waiting to get his dates.. not too shabby.

bugman in Newport News, Virginia said: Hello everybody. This is my first time on here I just found this site.I got my call to come to GV on 6/12 they wanted me on 6/5 but I needed more time to get things done before I go. It maybe the areas you guys are from but it only took 3 weeks to get my clearance maybe it won't be as long as you think.

Congrats... I am hoping to be in the same boat. I hope that at least one of my forms from a previous trip was processed so there is less to verify. GOOD LUCK with those pests over there, we all need to keep you close!

HVAC-2 in Kansas City, Missouri said: As long as it's not 120 days past due, or child support in a no travel state. I went through Houston with a guy from NC when with KBR... he found out the day we did the round about clearing and medical sign-off that because he was 2 months behind on child support in Virginia they wouldn't clear his passport (he was waiting to get one, didn't have one previously).. Something to be aware of and careful with- that has absolutely nothing to do with security but is still a travel flag.

in order to be accepted or renew a passport you cannot have a debt over 2500 dollars.

Texas Doll in Katy, Texas said: @German.... 25 days from submission of PSIP, or 25 days from letter saying No Further info required?

Also, was it just closed at OPM, or have you closed adjudication and everything????

can you post dates? As now I am thinking I might have to start moving my behind and start getting things situated... I was thinking I had 6 weeks at OPM and then 2 weeks at adjudication.... if you are saying you went thru everything in just a little over 3 weeks, damn!!! Changes the whole planning thing for the next couple of months.... kinda changes priorities!!!

WEll, I found out. But its not official until I rec' the email from my HR@Fluor. I just know my file has been closed by OPM. Hoping for the best.

Texas Doll in Katy, Texas said: @German.... 25 days from submission of PSIP, or 25 days from letter saying No Further info required?

Also, was it just closed at OPM, or have you closed adjudication and everything????

can you post dates? As now I am thinking I might have to start moving my behind and start getting things situated... I was thinking I had 6 weeks at OPM and then 2 weeks at adjudication.... if you are saying you went thru everything in just a little over 3 weeks, damn!!! Changes the whole planning thing for the next couple of months.... kinda changes priorities!!!

Well, I don't know about adjudication because I was hinted since I was just a NAICI s85p and not an 86 I may not need one. That is why I say until I receive my official email from my HR then I can relax.

To all the new Folks be sure to take a jump drive and have them
The company give you an electronic copy of your 85 or 86. Also save all your emails. I just pulled up my old NACI E-mail they sent me 7 months after in country which they send late sometimes. It came in handy. If you have to demobilize or you get a new gig the paperwork helps as a wealth of info. Plus if the employer loses something you have it. Zip drive your data! Also be sure to take a WD 1 terabite portable drive for your personal stuff. Always back up a back up!:-))

Later!

German... you still have to go to Rock Island from my understanding... once OPM closes that is where your file goes..... but either way, getting thru OPM is 3 weeks faster than most!!! This is for the 85.... the 86 goes thru DISCO, adn then adjudication.... completely different processing centers....

New folks bring baby wipes and foot Powder with you! :-)) you will need it for Mud butt! :-))) the baby wipes that is! The powder for your feet:-))

HVAC-2 in Kansas City, Missouri said: Ok.. read the wrong person before. So he is done and waiting to get his dates.. not too shabby.

don't think he is completely done... i think he is equating his file being Closed at OPM as being done.... but there is rock island he has to go to.... but it is still faster than others in teh past!!! hopefully his isn't a fluke and that is becoming the norm.

Leonidas in Oregon said: New folks bring baby wipes and foot Powder with you! :-)) you will need it for Mud butt! :-))) the baby wipes that is! The powder for your feet:-))

Why powder your feet? Didn't your military counterparts inform you that poweder clogs the breathing holes on your footgear causing more bacterial growth and heat?? Buy a pair of well ventilated boots.. not the ones that look neat but ones that meet guidelines and breathe. I prefer safety tennishoes with carbonfiber toes. They run about 150 a pair for good ones online.
Save the powder for your many and lady parts and of course.. the crack lmao

Texas Doll in Katy, Texas said: don't think he is completely done... i think he is equating his file being Closed at OPM as being done.... but there is rock island he has to go to.... but it is still faster than others in teh past!!! hopefully his isn't a fluke and that is becoming the norm.

Shh.. don't break my optimism! Let's just hope his is completely done with the process and adjudicated.

Mixer Mike 2 in Baghdad, Iraq said: American tax dollars should fun American jobs...

Ditto

HVAC-2 in Kansas City, Missouri said: Hey I am mildly liberal and I resent that comment lol.. I wouldn't dream of claiming someone who is trying to ruin everything because she became disenchanted with the situation... Personally I don't think ANYONE should be crying about their paychecks and such while over there. We all went voluntarily and signed our contracts knowing good and well what it said.. might not pay time and a half overtime- but time and 85% uplift for 40 hours isn't exactly shabby.. I met a good number of people overseas claiming they made the same money stateside.. i call BS for 90% of them. If it was this easy to pocket quick cash in the states we wouldn't dodge rockets to do it.. now would we.

I heard comments from several co-workers saying you can make that same money over here. I was like well show me, but they couldn't back it up. Yes there are certain situations like "shut downs" that good money can be made but you pick up the expenses for food, fuel and a place to stay. All that is covered and when you factor in the tax break the deal is even better.

Texas Doll in Katy, Texas said: Yes, i am ready.... it was a joyous and an 'oh crap' moment when the email came thru.... lol it got completely real LOL

I know what you mean. It certainly is a gut check.

Mixer Mike 2 in Baghdad, Iraq said: American tax dollars should fun American jobs...

OK, lets pull all the Brit troops and hardware out and let you guys deal with it. Then when you have sorted that out you can nip over to Libiya and sort that out !!
If you were to all pull together and stop moaning it would make the job easier.I would love to get over there and make some money.Anyone out there not happy just go home so it opens spaces for the ones that want to go , want to work , and do not want to complain. No one made you go. If making big money was easy we would all be rich !!
If I was there i would want my co-worker to be a BRIT or Yank. At least that way I know he won t shoot me in the back !!!
All this american dollars for american jobs is rubbish!!!

jjamesbarnes in Jacksonville, Florida said: Ditto

Revision - "and Brits"

Texas Doll in Katy, Texas said: don't think he is completely done... i think he is equating his file being Closed at OPM as being done.... but there is rock island he has to go to.... but it is still faster than others in teh past!!! hopefully his isn't a fluke and that is becoming the norm.

No I'm not equating to that. I'm not sure. Hopefully, by Friday I get an email. If I don't then it went up to adjudication. But someone eluded to me not all do, depends on the job. I really don't know.

Ok everyone I need some help please.I am a carpenter and have been looking work due to the reccession just like everyone else I guess.Have seen all these jobs on the Fluor site and applied for them.Can anyone please be honest and tell me are they only for American citizens and am I wasting my time. The site was able to take my details etc but then I read here that you go to Huston for some sort of interview plus you guys all seem to be from America.
Is there any Uk companies doing the same sort of work etc? This is all new to me and I would be greatfully to anyone for some friendly advice or help as I have never in 20 years been outa work and I am finding it so embarrasing and hard to feed the family.
Thanks so much everyone.

German09 in San Antonio, Texas said: No I'm not equating to that. I'm not sure. Hopefully, by Friday I get an email. If I don't then it went up to adjudication. But someone eluded to me not all do, depends on the job. I really don't know.

Cool! I am not sure if certain positions do/don't go to adjudication.... I was under the assumption everyone did... OPM does the investigating, Rock Island does the determination.... or that is what I read on one of the government sites about what the process is...... Not sure how it can be ok stamped without going to Rock Island if OPM only does the fact finding, and Adjudication does the determination.... But for you, I hope you are right! Not trying to be a naysayer, just that contrary to what I have read... I will try to find the page I found all that info later and post it here.... I looked at so many pages in the beginning of April when I started this process I am not sure where it was .... but I will try

Texas Doll in Katy, Texas said: Cool! I am not sure if certain positions do/don't go to adjudication.... I was under the assumption everyone did... OPM does the investigating, Rock Island does the determination.... or that is what I read on one of the government sites about what the process is...... Not sure how it can be ok stamped without going to Rock Island if OPM only does the fact finding, and Adjudication does the determination.... But for you, I hope you are right! Not trying to be a naysayer, just that contrary to what I have read... I will try to find the page I found all that info later and post it here.... I looked at so many pages in the beginning of April when I started this process I am not sure where it was .... but I will try

I believe you. I read also. Just was surprised because I asked the person if that was the next step. But then again probably doesn't know. She said, I don't think so because the investigation was low, so to speak.

I hope you hear from them this week!!! Whenever you do, make sure you post your timeline with dates of the stages to help those that follow you!

Texas Doll in Katy, Texas said: Cool! I am not sure if certain positions do/don't go to adjudication.... I was under the assumption everyone did... OPM does the investigating, Rock Island does the determination.... or that is what I read on one of the government sites about what the process is...... Not sure how it can be ok stamped without going to Rock Island if OPM only does the fact finding, and Adjudication does the determination.... But for you, I hope you are right! Not trying to be a naysayer, just that contrary to what I have read... I will try to find the page I found all that info later and post it here.... I looked at so many pages in the beginning of April when I started this process I am not sure where it was .... but I will try

Yeah, I agree with you Doll. Just happy I'm on the final leg. It took 25 working days for opm to complete mine. NOw another 2 to 3 weeks?

OHHHHH..... 25 WORKING days.... that is 5 weeks... so same as 35 days... most of the countdowns on here are not work days, but total days ..... so, you actually are on the same timeframe as everyone else that has gone thru..... You saying that, yes, if I were you, I would expect another couple of weeks or so...... Thought you were saying you got thru in 25 total days (a little over 3 weeks)

German09 in San Antonio, Texas said: That was FAST! Were you a prior worker?

No I am not a former worker. Sorry it took so long getting back to you. I have been reading posts for the last month or so and staying in the background. Listening and learning. Thanks

jjamesbarnes in Jacksonville, Florida said: I heard comments from several co-workers saying you can make that same money over here. I was like well show me, but they couldn't back it up. Yes there are certain situations like "shut downs" that good money can be made but you pick up the expenses for food, fuel and a place to stay. All that is covered and when you factor in the tax break the deal is even better.

I was road whoring for about 2 years....doing shutdowns in refinery plants all over Texas and Louisiana. The money is not there anymore...Companies dont want to pay Perdiem and they want to work you like a dog for 60 hours a week, (not to mention you are lucky to get 60$ a day worked perdiem) thats not the same money a tradesman can make overseas in a warzone. Oh yeah and by the way all of your wages back in the US are subject to tax. I myself have no kids...so yeah tax tax tax! According to our Government, thats the price for living in the US. There is plenty of things to complain about working for Fluor in Afghanistan..but the reality is....no one can make this kind of money back home...otherwise...you wouldnt be in a war zone!!!

How is the best way to keep in contact with the family when you are over there? I hear the cell phone charges are high. Will I have room to keep a company and personal laptop.

Texas Doll in Katy, Texas said: OHHHHH..... 25 WORKING days.... that is 5 weeks... so same as 35 days... most of the countdowns on here are not work days, but total days ..... so, you actually are on the same timeframe as everyone else that has gone thru..... You saying that, yes, if I were you, I would expect another couple of weeks or so...... Thought you were saying you got thru in 25 total days (a little over 3 weeks)

Yeah, the gov't doesn't work on the weekend. lol. Been reading. This whole next week its just going to be traveling time for my file from OPM to Rock Island.

chevytruck79 in Louisville, Kentucky said: No I am not a former worker. Sorry it took so long getting back to you. I have been reading posts for the last month or so and staying in the background. Listening and learning. Thanks

So you are leaving to GV already? Do you know if you file was sent to Rock Island or you just waited in ignorance and were so lucky you did it all in 2 months!!!!??

Ok so i got a call from my recruiter last week saying I'm good to go leaving on the 19th for GV. I never filled out a 85 or 86 form. Do I have to do that there or do I not have to do it at all? What can I expect in GV and is there anything special I need to bring.

Thanks

JEFF THE CARPENTER in DOWN, United Kingdom said: Ok everyone I need some help please.I am a carpenter and have been looking work due to the reccession just like everyone else I guess.Have seen all these jobs on the Fluor site and applied for them.Can anyone please be honest and tell me are they only for American citizens and am I wasting my time. The site was able to take my details etc but then I read here that you go to Huston for some sort of interview plus you guys all seem to be from America.
Is there any Uk companies doing the same sort of work etc? This is all new to me and I would be greatfully to anyone for some friendly advice or help as I have never in 20 years been outa work and I am finding it so embarrasing and hard to feed the family.
Thanks so much everyone.

hi jeff,
ive heard your best shot is to send your cv to bruce diggs who is supposed to be the key for your cv to get noticed.I think its like €70 to get your cv cleaned up.I woudnt normally trust sending someone on a website money to clean up a cv but i heard hes good.
Its worth a try if you dont get any contact from fluor for weeks or months.Heres the website www.logcap4jobs.com/.
Have you tried applying for jobs with dyncorp or another comapany like supreme group? Ive applied for like a year for jobs like food service,laundry,labour etc..but no joy ,,The reason i havnt sent my cv to bruce diggs is because ive been trying to get an apprenticeship here in ireland but the country is well f*cked.
GOODLUCK!

Got offered a plumbing job with kbr with a salary of £55k is this any good, iv been told to hold off and try with flour, can anyone give me advice and if fluor pay more than kbr. Really need a job out there for fast cash. I have applied with fluor but can imagine hundreds applying, any ideas on how to get noticed?

Texas Doll in Katy, Texas said: oh, something I asked my recruiter today, that the info might be of benefit to all....

Medical insurance does not kick in until you get over the Afghanistan and are on Fluor payroll. Not covered under medical during time in Greenville while on TRS pay..... so for those that are overly cautious and have current medical with their jobs now, might consider COBRA or get temporary catastrophic coverage for the 2 weeks or so just in case... can never forecast an accident or whatever... kinda like the guy that someone mentioned broke his ankle playing bball. each person should consider their own situation, but would suck for something to happen, and then not be able to go over AND be stuck with medical bills..... odds nothing will happen, but then again, I am sure that is what that guy that was playing bball was thinking......

Hi Texas doll, i need some advice, I have been applying non stop on the fluor website for a plumbing job, i have over 11yrs and foreman experience, how can I get noticed?? I got offered 85k dollars but in sterling this is only £55k, in was told to try flour who pay more, is this right?? I would go with kbr if I could make more money once out there.

Brian james irish in ireland, Ireland said: hi jeff,
ive heard your best shot is to send your cv to bruce diggs who is supposed to be the key for your cv to get noticed.I think its like €70 to get your cv cleaned up.I woudnt normally trust sending someone on a website money to clean up a cv but i heard hes good.
Its worth a try if you dont get any contact from fluor for weeks or months.Heres the website www.logcap4jobs.com/ .
Have you tried applying for jobs with dyncorp or another comapany like supreme group? Ive applied for like a year for jobs like food service,laundry,labour etc..but no joy ,,The reason i havnt sent my cv to bruce diggs is because ive been trying to get an apprenticeship here in ireland but the country is well f*cked.
GOODLUCK!

Jeff please see previous posts concerning Bruce Diggs. You will only get defrauded and scammed out of some money depending on how you pay hime...This is the worse ill advised advice someone could give you...I suspect James is either Diggs himself or someone who is just totaly ignorant. I implore you to review previous posting concerning job offer scams and fake resume services....good luck to you

dmure in Glasgow, United Kingdom said: Got offered a plumbing job with kbr with a salary of £55k is this any good, iv been told to hold off and try with flour, can anyone give me advice and if fluor pay more than kbr. Really need a job out there for fast cash. I have applied with fluor but can imagine hundreds applying, any ideas on how to get noticed?

Take the job...why hold your breath waiting for Fluor or DI and probably wait for years...if you need the money take it for now and then see where things go from there...

Contract Worker in Nashville, Tennessee said: Jeff please see previous posts concerning Bruce Diggs. You will only get defrauded and scammed out of some money depending on how you pay hime...This is the worse ill advised advice someone could give you...I suspect James is either Diggs himself or someone who is just totaly ignorant. I implore you to review previous posting concerning job offer scams and fake resume services....good luck to you

Contract worker, how can you get noticed by the fluor recruiters? They seem less accessible than kbr and dyn. I really need a plumbing job but I'm at a loss with all the information. I got offered 85k dollars but this seemed low in sterling, do you know if fluor pay more?

dmure in Glasgow, United Kingdom said: Contract worker, how can you get noticed by the fluor recruiters? They seem less accessible than kbr and dyn. I really need a plumbing job but I'm at a loss with all the information. I got offered 85k dollars but this seemed low in sterling, do you know if fluor pay more?

Thank you, just got your
email as u sent yours lol

dmure in Glasgow, United Kingdom said: Contract worker, how can you get noticed by the fluor recruiters? They seem less accessible than kbr and dyn. I really need a plumbing job but I'm at a loss with all the information. I got offered 85k dollars but this seemed low in sterling, do you know if fluor pay more?

I don't know how they are hiring foreign nationals exactly. There doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason on the nationality, the time of year or who and who they don't hire in regard to foreigners (except Bosnians.) I only know U.K personnel who are electrical but I am scratching to find out who else that is U.K is working for us. I assure you I will ask around though. My understanding is Fluor pays more but like I said it's different wage scale for U.S and foreigners. Gone Fishin might know some more info.

dmure in Glasgow, United Kingdom said: Thank you, just got your
email as u sent yours lol

just my oppinion, i would take the job offer, i reckon i posted on here b4 about my experience at a fluor job fair, there was around a hundred people there and we all turned in r resumes, the nice lady said sum of us would git an offer and sum would not,she said they git around 20 thousand applications a month for the logcap jobs, now thats alot, just sayin if a recruiter calls and offers u sumtin, take it, dont matter what company

Contract Worker in Nashville, Tennessee said: Jeff please see previous posts concerning Bruce Diggs. You will only get defrauded and scammed out of some money depending on how you pay hime...This is the worse ill advised advice someone could give you...I suspect James is either Diggs himself or someone who is just totaly ignorant. I implore you to review previous posting concerning job offer scams and fake resume services....good luck to you

Contract worker, ive seen a lot of posts about bruce diggs and i heard a lot of people saying they got a reply from fluor etc since getting their cv looked at.On the other hand it might be a scam and a whole wast of dough,just giving the guy a few ideas,no need to be calling me totally ignorant..:/

Brian james irish in ireland, Ireland said: Contract worker, ive seen a lot of posts about bruce diggs and i heard a lot of people saying they got a reply from fluor etc since getting their cv looked at.On the other hand it might be a scam and a whole wast of dough,just giving the guy a few ideas,no need to be calling me totally ignorant..:/

It's just his scam has really taken people for a ride and when you, among a few other cons (not saying you) advertsie his website like he's someone who will help someone get a job it just kind of irks me. I will refrain on the ignorance part and sincerely apologize, but I thought Diggs has been well covered and for anyone to publish him or his link is kind of upsetting...