HCR Manor Care News and Happenings.

What do you think -- is this company going to survive and thrive? Are they looking to expand their staff, or do you think layoffs are inevitable?

How does HCR Manor Care stack up against the competition?

FYI: for anyone considering HCR for employment:
I definitely think the company will survive and thrive for many reasons! I have worked for HCR Manor Care for approx. 3 years and have VERY few complaints! The few I do have are minor, everyday, expected mishaps that likely occur no matter where or who you work for. I am quite sure they are almost always looking to expand staff and I definitely do not forsee any type of layoff situation. Considering the nature of the business there will ALWAYS be a need for this service. I have worked for a few other agencies similar to HCR and though I don't have anything against any of them, I feel HCR is the best Healthcare related agency I have ever worked for!

This is a awsome place. I worked there, and found everyone there was kind and helpfull. I also have had family stay there for care. Its a wonderfull place to visit and live. I trust them with family and loved my job while there. The nurses and aides are good people.

I have worked for Heartland Hospice since they bought out our company. We currently have too many patients and not enough Case Managers. Upper management seems to care more about profits than patient care. I think they will do well financially - enough to pay for high quality attorneys to defend them against lawsuits. Money, money, money - to Hell with patients and the care they deserve. May the CEO need hospice someday and get a tired, overburdened nurse with too many patients and not enough time to handle his needs!!

anyone know of a hairstylist position in a nursing home or retirement facilitiy?

I have worked for Heartland Home & Hospice I have worded there for five years. I could not be more proud to say that I work for Hearland. I think the company will remain the same. And they can only go up from here.

I agree with Kate. I have worked for this company for 4 years and all they care about is profits. They overwork the staff, never authorize overtime, create unreasonable deadlines, don't hire more staff, and berate everyone for not getting everything done. I never take a lunch, come in early, work late, and still don't get anything done. The pay is really low.

i work at manor care bethlehem 2021 this is the worst place to work for its not manor care its manor scare or manor doesnt care were always short staffed and none of the higher ups could care less there is so much abuse and neglect in this facility i would never put my worst enemy here before you choose manore scare please look around and ask questions

kathy in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania said: i work at manor care bethlehem 2021 this is the worst place to work for its not manor care its manor scare or manor doesnt care were always short staffed and none of the higher ups could care less there is so much abuse and neglect in this facility i would never put my worst enemy here before you choose manore scare please look around and ask questions

moron!

I voluntarily left a local Heartland hospice due to the emotional and verbal abuse that the administrator doled out to staff that were competent, smart and had strong work ethics. I was somehow spared, but could not stand to see what she said/did to others. Complaining to her boss (corporate) did nothing.

Kate in Macon, Georgia said: I have worked for Heartland Hospice since they bought out our company. We currently have too many patients and not enough Case Managers. Upper management seems to care more about profits than patient care. I think they will do well financially - enough to pay for high quality attorneys to defend them against lawsuits. Money, money, money - to Hell with patients and the care they deserve. May the CEO need hospice someday and get a tired, overburdened nurse with too many patients and not enough time to handle his needs!!

Leslie

janet ralph said: This is a awsome place. I worked there, and found everyone there was kind and helpfull. I also have had family stay there for care. Its a wonderfull place to visit and live. I trust them with family and loved my job while there. The nurses and aides are good people.

We had great experience with Heartland with our patients.Who was the administrator of Heartland at that time?

kathy in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania said: i work at manor care bethlehem 2021 this is the worst place to work for its not manor care its manor scare or manor doesnt care were always short staffed and none of the higher ups could care less there is so much abuse and neglect in this facility i would never put my worst enemy here before you choose manore scare please look around and ask questions

yeah, we are short staffed at our falicity everyone is getting pregnate!!

if management don't care what makes you think staff will...I have had my share of what I call managers from HELL!!!!...

ERD in Canton, Michigan said: I voluntarily left a local Heartland hospice due to the emotional and verbal abuse that the administrator doled out to staff that were competent, smart and had strong work ethics. I was somehow spared, but could not stand to see what she said/did to others. Complaining to her boss (corporate) did nothing.

I too witnessed several competent nurses & social workers verbally abused, threatened about the unreachable goal of "productivity", and harrassed until they left to go elsewhere. This year, it's been my turn to be harrassed, insulted, treated with the utmost lack of respect and a severe lack of basic common courtesy. I have more education that any one in our management team yet I am treated like an idiot. I am aggressively looking for another position. HCR manor care has been bought by the Carlyle group, a cutthroat investment group known for it's hit & run tactics. I hope it spins them off the deep end. STAY AWAY from this company-they are hazardous to YOUR health!!!!!!!!!!

Host said: What do you think -- is this company going to survive and thrive? Are they looking to expand their staff, or do you think layoffs are inevitable?

How does HCR Manor Care stack up against the competition?

This company has been by a huge investment group (Carlyle) and will probably be cut to the bare bones, broken into splinters and sold to the highest bidder-a bad bet for job security.

I have worked for Arden Courts for a little over a year. It has been one of the most stressful experiences which include verbal abuse my our RDO. He actually said to me, " I don't care what the families issues are, get them in these beds." There is a double standard here, as well. If you think "outside the box" get a different job. They want people who are robotic in nature. Check out your ED, too. If that person wants you out of there...there will be as many Catch 22's as they can muster.

Becky Boeckers in Saint Cloud, Minnesota said: FYI: for anyone considering HCR for employment:
I definitely think the company will survive and thrive for many reasons! I have worked for HCR Manor Care for approx. 3 years and have VERY few complaints! The few I do have are minor, everyday, expected mishaps that likely occur no matter where or who you work for. I am quite sure they are almost always looking to expand staff and I definitely do not forsee any type of layoff situation. Considering the nature of the business there will ALWAYS be a need for this service. I have worked for a few other agencies similar to HCR and though I don't have anything against any of them, I feel HCR is the best Healthcare related agency I have ever worked for!

By being the victim of verbal abuse my staff (nurses, ED, and RDO), I cannot agree with you. Frankly, I hope they sink.

ERD in Canton, Michigan said: I voluntarily left a local Heartland hospice due to the emotional and verbal abuse that the administrator doled out to staff that were competent, smart and had strong work ethics. I was somehow spared, but could not stand to see what she said/did to others. Complaining to her boss (corporate) did nothing.

Thank you for sharing. I thought I was going crazy. I was sabotaged with admission paperwork being "lost." If your ED or the DON wants you out...that's what's going to happen.

If you work at this place and it is that bad, yet you stay... WHat does that say about your character? Maybe it's not the place, it's the employee.

bmac mcdaniel in Delta, Ohio said: If you work at this place and it is that bad, yet you stay... WHat does that say about your character? Maybe it's not the place, it's the employee.

Who said I still work there? When the RDO says, "I don't care about the families issues, just get them in these beds!"...something is not right. Don't let YOUR ego get in the way like my RDO did...it's not very attractive.

ML in Michigan said: I agree with Kate. I have worked for this company for 4 years and all they care about is profits. They overwork the staff, never authorize overtime, create unreasonable deadlines, don't hire more staff, and berate everyone for not getting everything done. I never take a lunch, come in early, work late, and still don't get anything done. The pay is really low.

how do they treat the cooks what is the pay rate

Host said: What do you think -- is this company going to survive and thrive? Are they looking to expand their staff, or do you think layoffs are inevitable?

How does HCR Manor Care stack up against the competition?

ManorCare must be run by very insecure individuals. I was in a facility today and saw an easel with one of their advertisements on it. At the top it read "FORTUNE" as in Fortune 100 or 500 companies. It then said how it had been rated #1 with other facilities listed numerically below it. What it didn't say was who/what was really endorsing the company as #1 other than "FORTUNE." Truly it isn't a Fortune 100 or 500 company or that would have been on the poster. Sad!

The place I used to work at is in its 7th year. So far they've had 3 marketing directors in less than 18 months, 2 BDS's in the same time frame, 3 ASC's, 3 ED's and the last one is gone (about 9 since it opened 6-7 yrs. ago), 2 Maintenance men in 16 months and 3 Activity Directors. They "promoted" the last ED to get her out of the building. When are they going to do their homework? When is the RDO going to realize they he is creating the same conditions by hiring, firing, letting go, or buying people out? When something is toxic, it's time to flush it down the toilet!

Becky Boeckers in Saint Cloud, Minnesota said: FYI: for anyone considering HCR for employment:
I definitely think the company will survive and thrive for many reasons! I have worked for HCR Manor Care for approx. 3 years and have VERY few complaints! The few I do have are minor, everyday, expected mishaps that likely occur no matter where or who you work for. I am quite sure they are almost always looking to expand staff and I definitely do not forsee any type of layoff situation. Considering the nature of the business there will ALWAYS be a need for this service. I have worked for a few other agencies similar to HCR and though I don't have anything against any of them, I feel HCR is the best Healthcare related agency I have ever worked for!

This sounds like an HR planted response. Do not believe the hype keep reading through all of the threads for how horrible of an organization this company really is. I can definetly speak for Montgomery County Maryland's AL division. RUN don't WALK from this division in Montgomery County Maryland. This hyped up response sounds so much like an HR response. DO NOT BE FOOLED!!! This is a horible organizations. Who talks about jobs available and surviving the economy but somone from HR or in a corporate position. Do not believe the HYPE this place is horrible to the employees just read all of the threads don't just take my word for it keep reading.

WatchURBack in Illinois said: The place I used to work at is in its 7th year. So far they've had 3 marketing directors in less than 18 months, 2 BDS's in the same time frame, 3 ASC's, 3 ED's and the last one is gone (about 9 since it opened 6-7 yrs. ago), 2 Maintenance men in 16 months and 3 Activity Directors. They "promoted" the last ED to get her out of the building. When are they going to do their homework? When is the RDO going to realize they he is creating the same conditions by hiring, firing, letting go, or buying people out? When something is toxic, it's time to flush it down the toilet!

You speak the truth -- the RDO in Montgomery County Maryland IS THE PROBLEM. The same revolving door concept in Montgoomery County Maryland. When will the RDO do what she is getting paid to do instead of creating issues and encouraging cut throat tactics to control the staff. The buildings and care should be the main focus but I can tell you in Montgomery County Maryland it is not and never has been.

SAY NO TO HCR ManorCare in Silver Spring, Maryland said: You speak the truth -- the RDO in Montgomery County Maryland IS THE PROBLEM. The same revolving door concept in Montgoomery County Maryland. When will the RDO do what she is getting paid to do instead of creating issues and encouraging cut throat tactics to control the staff. The buildings and care should be the main focus but I can tell you in Montgomery County Maryland it is not and never has been.

I Guess I should clarify by saying the Assisted Living in Montgomery County Maryland division RDO is who I am referring to. She is viscious with no conscience. I am glad these threads exist so people like her can be exposed.

WatchURBack in Illinois said: The place I used to work at is in its 7th year. So far they've had 3 marketing directors in less than 18 months, 2 BDS's in the same time frame, 3 ASC's, 3 ED's and the last one is gone (about 9 since it opened 6-7 yrs. ago), 2 Maintenance men in 16 months and 3 Activity Directors. They "promoted" the last ED to get her out of the building. When are they going to do their homework? When is the RDO going to realize they he is creating the same conditions by hiring, firing, letting go, or buying people out? When something is toxic, it's time to flush it down the toilet!

WATCH YOUR BACK EXACTLY -- It won't take long before they start cutting your throat especially in AL the RDO in Assisted Living enjoys trying to destroy people. Don't tell her you just purchased a house she will have even more incentive to fire you.

thewhistleblower in chicago, Illinois said: HCR Manor Care Inc. || Got a Gripe? Retaliation is Coming!

I second the motion!!!

janet ralph said: This is a awsome place. I worked there, and found everyone there was kind and helpfull. I also have had family stay there for care. Its a wonderfull place to visit and live. I trust them with family and loved my job while there. The nurses and aides are good people.

An Awesome Place???? -- this sounds like another planted response please do not set people up to go this company. What a cruel thing to do.

kathy in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania said: i work at manor care bethlehem 2021 this is the worst place to work for its not manor care its manor scare or manor doesnt care were always short staffed and none of the higher ups could care less there is so much abuse and neglect in this facility i would never put my worst enemy here before you choose manore scare please look around and ask questions

Stay away from Manorcare 2021 and 2029. Especially 2029 the director of nursing is a bully who gets off on abusing the nurses/staff. The pay and benefits are horrible. They also love to set up the nurses/cnas and treminate them. This place is not fit for Charles Manson. STAY AWAY.

Where is "2029"??
Considering a position with Manor and want to make sure its not the same place.

Merv Watson in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: Where is "2029"??
Considering a position with Manor and want to make sure its not the same place.

In Bethlehem PA, If you are considering working there, DO NOT. The DON gets much pleasure verbally abusing the staff. Singling one out in front of their peers. And she loves to set up nurses and fire them. By the way this is the nursing home that sent the nurse to federal prison. I worked there and left, and from personal experience I know that that poor nurse was set up to take the fall. The DON came out smelling like a rose and the nurse life was ruined. They are very good at passing the buck and making the inocent look guilty. Be afraid and stay away.

No, this building is in Lansdale.

Any word on anything there?

Merv Watson in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: No, this building is in Lansdale.

Any word on anything there?

I would just stay clear of this company. Benefits poor.

What is with Manorcare in Illinois. The flagship in Hinsdale and Westmont are squeaky clean, but other facilities are a dump. I have interviewed with them on and off for two years now for an Administrator position. The management team, administrators, and leadership are freaks.

WatchURBack in Illinois said: Thank you for sharing. I thought I was going crazy. I was sabotaged with admission paperwork being "lost." If your ED or the DON wants you out...that's what's going to happen.

Sadly, each job I've had has gotten progressively more unethical, but I hit the MOTHERLOAD with Manor Care. When Nursing screws up, they remove and shred orders that they didn't follow up on, or didn't get, or didn't administer. They SAY ... and here I want to throw up ... "we take care of each other." OMG. Did you just SAY that? And here's another good one: they BACKdate clinical notes, pretend they were present when they weren't, and fake doing jobs that they never did. I'm getting out of that place as fast as I can. I can't sleep at night with all the unethical/illegal activities, verbal abuse, power-hungry DONs, and the sickening ride on the money-making hamster wheel day in and day out. To all prospective employees, prospective families, and tourists ... RUN, don't walk!

WatchURBack in Illinois said: I have worked for Arden Courts for a little over a year. It has been one of the most stressful experiences which include verbal abuse my our RDO. He actually said to me, " I don't care what the families issues are, get them in these beds." There is a double standard here, as well. If you think "outside the box" get a different job. They want people who are robotic in nature. Check out your ED, too. If that person wants you out of there...there will be as many Catch 22's as they can muster.

Anyone considering a job with HCR RUN,RUN,RUN fast from them. do not waste your time, their are good places to work and this is far from good, they are evil. I wish I would of read all this before I started at Arden Courts, and fell from the start in the interview with the ED-Jane's B.S. of lies. "We are one big family here, and we all get along, and have been here for many years" oh sure... what a lie! I was in Managment and I am not working for them because they will get rid of you if you are not a robot of them, and let them think for you, and do things that are wrong, and be evil! I was a great employee, and what a waste it was to work for them! But take it from me, a ex-manager at Arden Courts in Elk Grove Village. Do not take a job with them, they will try and be tricky and fire you for being ill, and needed time off for a surgery! I will see HCR in court to fight for rights of discrimination, and a few of their deceitful other ways!

Host said: What do you think -- is this company going to survive and thrive? Are they looking to expand their staff, or do you think layoffs are inevitable?

How does HCR Manor Care stack up against the competition?

There is way better places to work, and it is about respect, honesty, being real, not fake as HCR is, so...fake! healthcare will do fine, but it may take years for it to come back to them, their day may come when they lose from all the deceitful ways I seen them do. They have been dumping staff, and they have a hitlist they keep, one of you may be on it! I know I was, because I am not their anymore. It is illeagal to be fired for being productive,excellent worker, honest hard working employee! I did way more than my job discription, and this job made me ill. which they did not like the time off for needing a surgery that intitled weeks off. The FMLA gives 3 months before the job can be handed over, but the ED-Jane decided no way...she will do more of her dishonest, sneaky, deceiful ways and blow a fuse in my review, and fired me! for what needing time off for surgery, and speaking up, and disagreeing with her. I was legal she was not.. see you in court! by the way, possible future employees I was in managment, and the circles of hell stories I can tell you are not pretty! I wish I would of got online and checked them out before I considerd a position with HCR. I would not have taken it reading all this! Have respect for yourself, you are way better than this company, so give your hard work to a company that finds you truly worthy! HCR don't and never will... it is all about money, money, money, and NOT the well being of employees, and residents!and malipulating employees with food, and lies. HCR MANORCARE CORP./ ARDEN COURTS ARE BAD, BAD, EVIL, DEVELS! Many have come and go in the little over one year of me being there, and I know the history before me, and it is not pretty! they dont care about employees and keeping them.

My Mother stayed at Manor 2029 for 3 weeks. Although we did like most of the nurses and aides, we had an awful experience upon my Mother's discharge. The doctor who she was assigned to didn't take care of ANY of her prescriptions nor did ANYONE sit down with us to go over these meds. My Mother was diagnosed with Pancreatic Cancer stage 4 less than 2 months ago. She needs all sorts of medications. We could have literally just walked out with her and no one would have blinked! It took me 6 hours to get her prescriptions! And, the doctor who she was assigned to spent maybe all of 10 minutes with her during her entire 3 week stay there. I am extremely upset with Manor Care for this most unprofessional and unacceptable lack of care!

OMGManorScare said: Sadly, each job I've had has gotten progressively more unethical, but I hit the MOTHERLOAD with Manor Care. When Nursing screws up, they remove and shred orders that they didn't follow up on, or didn't get, or didn't administer. They SAY ... and here I want to throw up ... "we take care of each other." OMG. Did you just SAY that? And here's another good one: they BACKdate clinical notes, pretend they were present when they weren't, and fake doing jobs that they never did. I'm getting out of that place as fast as I can. I can't sleep at night with all the unethical/illegal activities, verbal abuse, power-hungry DONs, and the sickening ride on the money-making hamster wheel day in and day out. To all prospective employees, prospective families, and tourists ... RUN, don't walk!

Life is better away from this deceitful co. I can sleep at night, and the thought of working for a company that is full of unethical, illegal ways makes me sick! I am glad I stood up for myself and refused to do deceitful ways of running a company, but if you get in management that is what they want of you..... Corp. JC, Ed,the administrators,all of leadership in your location! so.. keep smart if you are not management, if they dont like you and you are not a robot for them,they will rid of you even if you are a good worker and doing a great job! They want people that do not have brains! I refused to be a deceitful dog as they wanted, so they will try and make you look bad, and continue the circle of deceit to rid of you! HCR Manorcare/Arden Courts is unethical, illegal, so very power hungry ( ED-Jane at E.G. get off your high horse we are all people no matter where we are on the latter of management, or non-management. The little people build the co. Management screws it up-power trips, come on down now!) I feel bad for familys/residents that are at HCR and dont know of any of this, I know I will continue to put the word out there!Need Unions!

This is the worst job and treatment that I have had in almost 8 years as a nurse. Don't think twice about a job with cut throats, liars, management who would sell out their own mother's for gain. RUN! RUN! FASTER! They will pick until they find a way to terminate you if you do not fit into their mold. Hospice case managers are overworked and under paid. Don't buy their salary talk that it all evens out. Try paid for 40 hours and work 50-60 aweek.I warn you not to subject yourself to the pure insane hours, on call, paperwork..etc... and never seeing your family. The pay is horrible. You try to do a good job but you never hear about the compliments that corporate gets on your behalf, just the monster who wants more...push numbers and numbers knowing good and well the patients are the ones that we are suppose to be concerned about. Life is to short to to work for such a money hungry, deceitful outfit. I believe places like HCR is why unions exist. I also believe that is why you have to have good lawyers.Hour and wage law violations galore.

Becky Boeckers in Saint Cloud, Minnesota said: FYI: for anyone considering HCR for employment:
I definitely think the company will survive and thrive for many reasons! I have worked for HCR Manor Care for approx. 3 years and have VERY few complaints!

BULL. You must work for Corporate HR. It is so obvious. All of the replies must also come from corporate. If you want to know just how horrible this place is read all of the threads. This is a horrible place to work. This company does not care about the employees or the residents.

janet ralph said: This is a awsome place. I worked there, and found everyone there was kind and helpfull. I also have had family stay there for care. Its a wonderfull place to visit and live. I trust them with family and loved my job while there. The nurses and aides are good people.

B.S. You are not honest.

I know as a case manager you are told that the hours are 8:30 to 4:30 and you end up putting in 50-70 hours a week and they don't care if you have worked 20 hours and slept 2-3...you better be there for your next shift. They say the hours even out with your time off BS>>>BS>>>BS>>> We as case managers love our patients but the company only cares for the all mighty dollar baby. They pay you salary and work your behind off and could care less. If you disagree with them they pull dirty tatics to try to find a way to fire you.If you like being a slave go for it. I thought slavery was abolished when?????

anyone know what unions that some HCR Manor care places have?

being a ex-manager in the Arden Courts of Elk Grove village, IL. No company especially this co. wants Unions! They can not get away as easy with the deceit they do onto their workers, and the slime they pull over the families. I also had family in one of the HCR facilites... it is amazing they can sleep at night! Their is plenty of other nice jobs out in this world where you can be a asset with the love,compassion, and passion we have, and spend the quality time with the residents that are paying alot to be there, not what Arden does get the families money, money, money and put a act on when the families come in or dont tell families all they should know about their love one in their care. Don't waste it at this Company, just keep putting the word out their about the deceitful treatment they put onto human beings, but one day they will be old and may have to live in a senior living... it will come back to them!

Ms. J. Ohio- to start... contact your local labor department which will be able to hear your case, and they will be able to locate your union if your location is unionized. Also, report them to the BBB which you can do online. Put your story/compliants on paper and have it certfied to Corp. in Toledo. To: the big guy ~ (John Graham) Your boss does not want him to know your side of the story or even know what has happened.

This company is so afraid of unions that they have crafted progressive discipline that stands to endanger patient safety and lives while managers try to get rid of short-fused, ambivalent, lazy, self-absorbed, careless, neglectful, dishonest, thoughtless, game-playing, unreliable and even harmful front-line hourly staff. Work here if you want to sit on your tail doing as little as possible to earn a paycheck and don't want to sit through training. (There is little real training.) Avoid working for HCR if you are a moral, ethical person who truly cares about patients, quality customer service and doing the right thing at all times.

ML in Michigan said: I agree with Kate. I have worked for this company for 4 years and all they care about is profits. They The pay is really low.

Salaries at manager level are not less than $5,000 below industry average and many times much lower. Nurses are especially lowly paid by comparison to other industry employers, many of whom care enough about retention to have created additional vacation time or other benefits that afford work-life balance for those in stressful positions.

tooemployeefriendly in Ohio said: This company is so afraid of unions that they have crafted progressive discipline that stands to endanger patient safety and lives while managers try to get rid of short-fused, ambivalent, lazy, self-absorbed, careless, neglectful, dishonest, thoughtless, game-playing, unreliable and even harmful front-line hourly staff. Work here if you want to sit on your tail doing as little as possible to earn a paycheck and don't want to sit through training. (There is little real training.) Avoid working for HCR if you are a moral, ethical person who truly cares about patients, quality customer service and doing the right thing at all times.

I am very offended by this post. I have worked for HCR ManorCare for 14 years and I am a moral, ethical person. HCR ManorCare is a great organization full of passionate, committed professionals like me that are providing quality care and customer service. I have never seen this company make a decision that would compromise quality care for profits. It seems to me that several of these posts are from the same individual and I question their motives.