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Justice for america in Bethalto, Illinois 58 months ago |
Interested in East Alton, Illinois said: Justice, I read your earlier post. I understand some of your seniments, and am concerned by others. On your last post, you stated that you posted on the wrong forum. Please tell me where your other posts are. I am interested in a dialogue. You sound like a person who could use a listener. I have not posted on any other forum as of yet. I am considering my space which I have heard about but do not know much about. I think this may be a site where you can state how you feel and tell it like it is. Since you have shown an interest I will tell you a little about my self. I have a felony conviction for poceession of weed and a small quanity of mushrooms. I had been selling some pot. During the legal process I had to go to a pre sentence investagation. I was told to tell of my criminal history which consisted of a D.W.I. which is now over 20 years ago. I had one minor juvenile incident which had not even went to court and I was told at the time would not be on my record. I felt some shame about this and thought it was not an issue or any ones buisness so I had not mentioned it. the report to the judge was written in such away to make me look like charles manson and I felt the sentence was not just. Of course before sentencing my lawyer said not to worry these things are always written this way. That is what I get for believing him.
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Born2Excel in Key West, Florida 58 months ago |
I understand where you are coming from, 95% of the USA have did something dishonest, the only thing is, they never been caught, so they think...because GOD sees all and knows all, Know that 20 doors will close in your face before 1 will open, and the one that opens will be the one for you. I to myself have a past, but I have learned not to be hindered by my past, because it's just that the past. The past cannot be changed,but you can do something about your future. Keep on,keeping on, because you were BORN2EXCEL. |
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Amazing in Augusta, Georgia 58 months ago |
Born2Excel in Key West, Florida said: I understand where you are coming from, 95% of the USA have did something dishonest, the only thing is, they never been caught, I find it incredible how the criminal mind thinks. Do you really believe that most people are dishonest? You must lead a sad life indeed if that is the way you see the world. It would appear that you think you cannot really trust anyone. If there were a wallet lying on the street with nothing in the wallet except a card with a name address and phone number on it and a picture of an old couple that looked like grandparents or something, do you believe no one would call you and want to return your grams' picture? Someone once told me that they would leave five dollars lying on a table within easy reach when a person whose character they did not know was to visit the home. The idea was to see if the person was honest. I thought it was a good idea. If the money is taken, then it only cost you five bucks to learn the person was dishonest. If the money remains, then you know the new person is normal and honest. My question is if you were in that situation would you be able to leave the money lying there? Do you think most people (95 percent I believe you said) would take the money and risk losing a friendship to gain a fiver? In the world where I live, the money would lie there forever even if it were $500. |
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Born2Excel in Key West, Florida 57 months ago |
Amazing in Augusta, Georgia said: I find it incredible how the criminal mind thinks. Do you really believe that most people are dishonest? You must lead a sad life indeed if that is the way you see the world. It would appear that you think you cannot really trust anyone. I said 95%, so that leaves 5% who have always did the right thing. Now, Amazing in Augusta, Georgia-let me ask you a question, have you ever took a right turn where there was a sign posted that said no right turns on red and you still took that right or have you ever throw a piece of paper out the window, when the sign posted said NO LITTERING. My advise to you is check your own life and correct your own mistakes, because giving the right circumstances you too can find yourself in a situation without thinking. And it's not just a criminal mind...it's a human mind,a mind needing renewed by the word of GOD. There is someone needing to be encouraged on this forum, let that be your focus. |
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Give us a break here in Winterville, Georgia 57 months ago |
Born2Excel in Key West, Florida said: Now, Amazing in Augusta, Georgia-let me ask you a question, have you ever took a right turn where there was a sign posted that said no right turns on red and you still took that right or have you ever throw a piece of paper out the window, when the sign posted said NO LITTERING. Those are hardly felonies. I believe his point was that the criminal mind tends to think that they are rather normal by virtue of the fact they believe that most people are like them - criminal and dishonest. Insane people do the same thing. The human mind does not generally think in terms of it being so sick and tends to start to believe that most other people are insane instead of them. Augusta is correct. Most people in the world are normal, honest, law abiding citizens and probably only 5 percent of the world's population would commit a felony crime. Perhaps 10 percent commit misdemeanors but that still leaves 85 percent normal people, not the other way around. In my opinion, criminals should not be encouraged in any way whatsoever. That is why we as a society make laws against such acts and punish for such acts and shun such people. We basically are saying by passing such laws that we wish to rid society of people who think as a criminal mind does. |
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Born2Excel in Key West, Florida 57 months ago |
Give us a break here in Winterville, Georgia said: Those are hardly felonies. I believe his point was that the criminal mind tends to think that they are rather normal by virtue of the fact they believe that most people are like them - criminal and dishonest. Whatever!!!! |
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My Humble Opinion in Los Angeles, California 57 months ago |
Don't listen to these douch bags telling you to lie. If you're an "ex-con", then you are just living up to what people expect of an "ex-con". If you're trying to get your crap together and
Congrats to you on making a positive change, good luck and I'll give the big guy upstairs a little shout out to you.
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Born2Excel in Key West, Florida 57 months ago |
My Humble Opinion in Los Angeles, California said: Don't listen to these douch bags telling you to lie. If you're an "ex-con", then you are just living up to what people expect of an "ex-con". If you're trying to get your crap together and AAAAAAMEN!!! |
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Dave in Austin, Texas 57 months ago |
I was arrested 30 years ago for coke. Fresh home from the war and doing some stupid things. Convicted of a felony and with no prior sentenced to 15 yrs. prob. Served 7 yrs. and suddenly received letter of release due to good hehavior. At the time the judge told me that I if I kept my nose clean and stayed out of trouble that there would be no record of this. I've since raised 2 wonderful boys who are now in college and know nothing of this.
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frances in Downey, California 57 months ago |
I feel for you ,but the reality is if people like you they will hire you it just comes to the fact you need to be honest.
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frances in Downey, California 57 months ago |
I feel for you ,but the reality is if people like you they will hire you it just comes to the fact you need to be honest.
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arlenie in Old Bridge, New Jersey 57 months ago |
you can do anything you want, you can even start your own business, and make your own money. I know many people who have done this you can cut lawns or even buy real estate and fix and sell it there are jobs out there that you can create for yourself. You have to be positive and look for what you want and do it. I know my many people who were just upfront with the job and told them in the beginning, many would not hire them but many would you gotta keep going never give up you can do it... use the secret at www.thesecret.tv and from this learn to bring into your life what you want. |
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hopless in Long Beach, California 57 months ago |
I too have a felony for perscription fraud i was molested by my stepfather from the ages 3-15 never really dealt with it thought i had it all under control but a couple of years ago i stared having nightmares about it couldnt sleep and got hook on perscription meds. i had an excellent work history before this i also attended jr.college. I never spent any time in jail for this crime but i was sentence to three years probation I have serve almost two years and still cant find a job. I feel just like I did when I was being molested hopless. By the way my stepfather got off because the statued of limitations was up. After all of this his apology means nothing. |
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Paul in Saint Augustine, Florida 57 months ago |
"Augusta is correct. Most people in the world are normal, honest, law abiding citizens and probably only 5 percent of the world's population would commit a felony crime. " This is an enormous load of BS and completely exposes how little people really understand about this issue. Once upon a time, "felony" meant a truly "bad" crime. Crimes that were "malum in se" - inherently evil. Robbery, rape, theft, etc. After a couple hundred years of legislators with nothing to do but pass laws for a living, today, a felony runs the gamut of things that aren't even "evil", but are simply "felonies" because legislators make them so. I think we all need to understand that somethings are illegal because they're bad, while other things (including many "felonies") are only bad because they've been made illegal. I agree that it is the responsibility of every man and women to abide by the laws of their state and country. I also agree that there are consequences for every action- in some cases, for life (sexual offenses against children, murder, rape, etc). With that said, is it right that we marginalize people for the rest of their lives for one single mistake? Often times, a mistake that harmed absolutely no one? (drug crimes, various technical offenses, etc) The people who are in favor of that are dogmatic retards of the lowest order. When someone who absolutely wants to work and turn his life around but can't because people like this don't think they should be employable, then the moral problem lies not with the person with the past, but with the person who has no criminal record, but seeks to oppress his fellow man. I do believe that people should be given second chances for "offenses" that are of minimal importance, even though they may have been technically classified as a "felony" at one point or another. |
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Charlie in Tignall, Georgia 57 months ago |
Paul in Saint Augustine, Florida said: I do believe that people should be given second chances for "offenses" that are of minimal importance, even though they may have been technically classified as a "felony" at one point or another. But how did they become "technically classified?" What is the difference between a real felony and a technically classifed felony other than in your own opinion? You don't have the right to independently make that distinction. It is a case of being a cafeteria law abider. You advocate the abiding of some laws but not others I suppose? If someone was in the position as a lawmaker and decided, while discussing it and voting on it with other professional law makers, that it should be a felony, then it is just as much a felony as felonies that carry stiffer sentences. Any felon falls into the same general category as the most heinous murderer, simply because he/she has committed a felony. And on the other point, name some of these crimes you believe to be victim-less and I will tell you who the victims are. I challenge you. |
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Nunya in Kansas City, Missouri 57 months ago |
Not every felon is a thief... Amazing in Augusta, Georgia said: I find it incredible how the criminal mind thinks. Do you really believe that most people are dishonest? You must lead a sad life indeed if that is the way you see the world. It would appear that you think you cannot really trust anyone. |
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Nunya in Kansas City, Missouri 57 months ago |
Prostitution--and the only victims are the women who become felons. Lighten up and watch where you throw your stones, dude. Charlie in Tignall, Georgia said: But how did they become "technically classified?" What is the difference between a real felony and a technically classifed felony other than in your own opinion? You don't have the right to independently make that distinction. |
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yagirldena in Suffolk, Virginia 56 months ago |
I am a 470 year old divorced female with 3 kids. 13 8 and 6. I have 4 felonies. I have been clean for 13 years and I still cant get a decent job unless I lie or slip through the cracks. I am a professional female, I type, use computers and do almost all office work with extras and more to offer than most professionals....still no GOOD job for me,,,often I think to do old things to make money but I have decided to trust GOD, you might not even go for that but, guess what?? my trust in man has been in vain...I will pray you find peace and satisfaction in your life..my heart goes out to you.....Dena |
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yagirldena in Suffolk, Virginia 56 months ago |
Stokey in Coeur D Alene, Idaho said: Yeah, when you're entire life seems hopeless because of a mistake made so long ago. Now I work as a custodian, cleaning up garbage, vacuuming. It's a terrible, bottom-feeder job. Every night I just cry, knowing I have to go back the next day and clean up more garbage. My boss is a miserable man who wants to make everyone else miserable too, my PO won't let me quit my job, and no one else will hire me because of my criminal history. I just cruise the internet, finding people who have it worse off than I do, and thinking, "Well, I'm a little better off than them." Not that it really makes me feel any better. It makes me feel worse that this is the world we live in today. And some people tell me, "Just pray. God will fix it. Just have faith." Well, that hasn't worked yet. Is God going to expunge my record? Will he find me a new job? I think not. My faith, sadly, has dwindled to almost non-existence. But rambling isn't making me feel any better either, so... Don't give up on God. The enemy (satan) will have you believe anything when things aren't going right but he did not bring us this far to leave us! or we surely would have died in our sins!
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rttryrrt trtrytytr in Chico, California 56 months ago |
So take your golden boy with a spotless record who is terrible at the job. Aren't you a different person than you where ten years ago. I will never come to this website again. |
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Tempin' ain't easy in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 56 months ago |
Call me Charlie in Louisville, Kentucky said: Then I would suggest you go out and feed someone who is now hungry and explain to them how it wrecked your life to resort to crime so they are not tempted to do it. Those who stole, return the item or money to the person you stole it from and ask them to forgive you. If you stole from a business, go back there and offer to work for them for free to make up the cost they lost when you took something them. I've been reading this and it sounds like these people are trying to take responsibility for their lives and know what they did was wrong and want another chance. At least they're not on sitting on their butts thinking the world owes them something. Why not direct you outrage to the latter instead of the former. Besides, not everyone is 100% law abiding. I'm sure you've done some things that weren't above board, you just didn't get caught yet :-) |
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Tempin' ain't easy in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 56 months ago |
Give us a break here in Winterville, Georgia said: Those are hardly felonies. I believe his point was that the criminal mind tends to think that they are rather normal by virtue of the fact they believe that most people are like them - criminal and dishonest. So I take it that you and Augusta have never made mistake in your life, never did anything wrong and were sorry for it and asked another human for forgiveness? Criminals should be enouraged to get their lives together. I know there's some who can never be saved, but why should shoot down those who want to rehabilitate to make yourselves feel better. It won't get you into heaven any faster. |
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Tempin' ain't easy in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 56 months ago |
Forum Guide in Atlanta, Georgia said: Don't let the sound of your own rap sheet drive ya crazy. :) And don't let the fact that you're impersonating a forum guide hurt you either. |
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Tempin' ain't easy in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 56 months ago |
Forum Guide in Atlanta, Georgia said: I was just trying to compliment your creativity on the oblique reference to Seals and Crofts. I apoligize, with all the drama going on, I thought you were trolling my comment. :-) |
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Dee in PA---now in New York 56 months ago |
WOW! |
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------ in Maine 56 months ago |
it does not matter if you tell them or not, because Hyatt will run a background check on you for past 7 years. The background check will show all interferences with the law, including traffic violations. However, you might still get a job, depending on how severe was the crime. They only look at felonies and misdemeanors that you were convicted of. If a case was dismissed, it would not matter. Anything violent and anything involving theft is against their standards. The best thing would be to call them and ask what kind of felonies are against their standards. Normally, they would give that info. |
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lyrica42 in Augusta, Georgia 55 months ago |
RamiekaHart123@comcast.net in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: I just came home and I really need a job to support my kids and I am just trying to find out how I can get in with me having a felony There is a new website that is felons helping felons. That website is Myfelon.com This is a legitimate new and powerful website where we are felons helping felons. We are gathering a database of employers that are "felon-friendly". Here you can meet and network with other people in similar situations that understand what you are going through. Family members are also welcomed, as we all know that this does not just impact the offender, but our families as well. I hope that every felon who reads this will visit and become a member.
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Joe Kurtzke - aka JK in Des Plaines, Illinois 55 months ago |
lyrica42 in Augusta, Georgia said: There is a new website that is felons helping felons. That website is Myfelon.com I would suggest that you contact The Safer Foundation in Chicago to expand your network. They have opened a lot of doors for folks who would have otherwise had them shut. When I was in the Hospitality Industry many years ago I hired someone through them who turned out to be one of the best hires possible - dedicated, motivated and wanting to improve his life. I believe I gained as much as he did because I was able to help him to enter a path to achieve his goals. Safer Foundation fills a void that exists today to give those who truly want and are willing to work for a second chance the opportunity to do so. If I were in a hiring capacity again, I would not hesitate to contact Safer as their standards are high but the people they work with are truly committed to change. Just a thought. |
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Pardon Seeker in Coventry, Connecticut 55 months ago |
If you folks were arrested and it has been long enough (5 years in CT), then you can apply for a pardon of your crimes through the state. My hearing is on Monday - wish me luck! It seems that as long as you've not committed other crimes since then and have been bettering your life, they will look on you favorably. Its a ton of paperwork and you have to send out for information to a couple places, and it might cost you like $40 or so, I think its definitely worth it since you can then answer "no" to the question of whether you have been arrested - legally. |
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Jst_relaxin in Hickory, North Carolina 53 months ago |
abl in Midland, Michigan said: You should look into getting bonded by the federal governmennt. I have a friend who was recently released from prison and got into a program thre the government that bonded him for $10,000.00 meaning that his employer wouldn't have to pay the $10,000.00 he made the government would pay him for the work. I'm not sure what the qualifications are but your situation sounds similar to his with the kids and all. Good luck. Where do you get bonded with Government? Or where would you start? |
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Rev James Matthews in Ft. Hood/ Killeen, Texas 52 months ago |
Praise the Lord! I'm alive today to tell you that God loves His children & He will heal your body, your spirit, and yes even your circomstances if you let Him. He offers His Grace and Healing freely to anyone who will accept it. Your faith (your beliefes & expectations), are the most powerful force involved in creating your life experience be it positive or negative. The biggest part of my ministry is helping people change their lives by changing their expectations.
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Klouise in Michigan 45 months ago |
Forgiving People: My husband has a decent job and a felony record. He did five years for drugs and for going after a federal witness. I met him AFTER he did his time and after he started working for the company we both work for. He has had this job for 12 years now. WE have been married for 4 years. It is possible to find your place in this world. There are companies that will give second chances. They are going to be hard to find. Go back to school and try to specialize in something. He did this while in prison. |
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LindaM in Barrington, Illinois 45 months ago |
To the person whos daughter had her check cashed when the boyfriend said he would not--And I know its too little, too late, but she should have stopped payment on her check when they broke up. |
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delphine hunter in Woodridge, Illinois 45 months ago |
[you are so right and right now we are not in control of the majority of the things that are happening and as hard as it is keep your head up network, network, network and network. Dont beat your self up about your past find hope and faith and work harder than you ever have before. Dont let mistakes and falls keep you down you have a second chance right now to get up stay up and be strong you can do it you have more strength than you know you have social work is very rewarding and you will be impressed with the outcome. -peace and blessing upon your life stay strong and focused. There is a light at the end of your tunnel |
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IDIDIT513 in evanston, Ohio 38 months ago |
Well I have a story to add to all the other unfortunate ones I have come across today.Back in 2005 I was involved in a bad check deal.Went through the court process,and got convicted.In March of 2008 I was hired to work with a child with autism thru the county board of mrdd. In the interview I told the guy that I had a felony on my record and explained verbatim the situation. did BCI check that day and all the other tests needed to secure this job.Anyway i worked there for one month to the day. Got home and got a call that i was not to 4return to work due to my BCI check. Went to go speak with the dept about my being released and got nowhere.Tried to contact the EEOC,no go. So in this instance what do you do?who do you talk to? Can someone help me out with this one.Jobless in Cincinnati. |
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Donna C in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 37 months ago |
What do you mean, don't tell them? They check anyway and if they catch you lying about it then they don't want to hire you because you didn't tell them and then if you do tell them they don't hire you because you have a felon but was honest about it up front. They have my husband up on the computer while he is sitting in front and they don't even advertise background checks. It doesn't pay to lie about having a felony because my husband has one from 11 yrs ago and he has never been in trouble before that nor after that. It was just a mistake and he paid for it and now he can't find any company that will hire him because he is a felon and he is a hard worker and a good man. He has lost out on a lot of job opportunities because of having a felon on his record. It gets depressing after a while. So what can a person do? |
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Lucas in Colorado Springs, Colorado 34 months ago |
RamiekaHart123@comcast.net in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: I just came home and I really need a job to support my kids and I am just trying to find out how I can get in with me having a felony I volunteer at the workforce center, they have a department called Restore, specifically to help felons find employment. They have to be recommended by their parole officer. |
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samplns 24 months ago |
My daughter's felony in St. Louis in Saint Louis, Missouri said: I agree. Why can't companies take a look and listen to what your "mistake" was instead of writing off a potential excellent employee for basically $25.00 - since that was over the $500 limit.Please write a letter to someone your daughter shouldn't have a case unless the chech was stolen or done fraugelent..525 is not federal and she should have been given a chance to make the check good |
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samplns 24 months ago |
Your daughter should not have a case unless the check was stolen or fraud.. she should have been given a chance to make it good. Was this a first time.. Check with an attorney to get that off her record.i know poeple that have written checks (more thsan one)for much more and still walikng the streets. |
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samplns 24 months ago |
RamiekaHart123@comcast.net in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: I just came home and I really need a job to support my kids and I am just trying to find out how I can get in with me having a felony If in St louis DIERBURGS Central Kitchens hire felons. the are in the program so check with grocers in your town |
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JONNYFIVE in New York, New York 6 months ago |
ME in Milwaukee, Wisconsin said: Which is illegal....MAN No, you are totally wrong. A job candidate is NOT required to tell you ANYTHING that is not asked on the application or interview. If the job canidate lies, is hired, and is found out, they can only be fired. There is no legal ramifications from lying.. It will just cement the stigma even further that "Felons will never learn." I, for one, am a felon(2 ounces of weed in a small town during college. I have an amazing IT manager position, and want for nothing. It can be done...
AWAY with the term SNITCH... It is a felon's term and thinking patterns need to change.
My 2 cents. |
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erik91360@gmail in Camarillo, California 3 months ago |
Heather in Hazel Crest, Illinois said: Unfortunately, the system seems to be in the habit of screwing people fairly regularly. I was arrested and convicted of retail fraud twice within a six-month period. It was a very rough time and I was primarily stealing from grocery stores. This was fully four years ago. Since then, I have been kicked out of law school, fired from my meager job at a retirement home, and (not surprisingly) attempted suicide three times. I can't find a job anywhere, and this is all for just two misdemeanors. I wish I could die, I really do. I have to live with an abusive man because I cannot afford to live on my own and I can't find a job that pays enough to cover my student loan bills or anything else. I have turned to lawyers for help, but all of them tell me that I am not eligible for expungement or sealing. I did no jail time - only court ordered counseling. I am now labeled a thief and my life is ruined. I sit here and read other people's stories on the Internet and I cry for them and for me...and that's my life. I have even considered fleeing the country or buying a fake identity to escape my past, but I haven't quite got the courage for such measures. I wish one of you could help me. I wish I could help all of you. OMG Sweetie,you poor thing...I am so sorry you are hurting, your post really moved me.Not sure about yr state, but in CA you can have your non felony convictions removed after 7 years, it's not automatic you gotta ask, check it out Be sure I'm counting the days till my 2 misdemeanors for possession of controlled substances(also in a six month period like you )are removed. I was fired from my job of 4 years (which I loved & accepted the no break/no lunch policy, which is illegal). Thats appreciation 4 you. INDIANS are sand you no whats. |
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