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NDA in Fountain Valley, California

92 months ago

Dick Reynolds said: I have over 20 years experience in selling IT lifecycle services to fortune 500 companies. I've applied SEVERAL times to IBM with no response. A friend of mine told me they hire people they know or are "friends" with. This will be the LAST time I apply at IBM....their loss. Dick Reynolds

I can't attest that the "friends" connection isn't true. I worked in IBM Global Services for a number of years until laid-off after dotcom bubble burst... I've called a number of Executive PMs and my old Principal.. it's out of their hands. They even gave me specific job post numbers to submit to.. still no response. I've spammed IBM's job site as much as they spam job boards and all I've ever heard is the sucking noise of the resume black-hole vortex. And the irony is.. that when I talk to folks I used to work with, they've got open position on their projects and in need of help... go figure???? It didn't used to be that way. Maybe it's part of the "synergies" of acquiring PWC?

By and large, I've found sending resumes to job postings to be mostly useless... having my resume visible on job boards is where I've received responses.

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Dick Cheney in San Jose, California

92 months ago

Try BEA.

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PB in Frostburg, Maryland

92 months ago

can't blame the recruiters, blame the IBM game.

Is you have IS-Media (SMD) Skills let me know, we have a 6 month opp.

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IBMer in Winchester, Massachusetts

92 months ago

Syed Rizvi said: I had previously worked for IBM and left them in 2000 and applied to the recent job positings. I got a response from their recruitment staff indicating that "after their conversation with me" they did not think I was a good fit. I am not sure who she talked to but it was not me. That speaks volumes about them.

as an interviewer (i am a consultant -- some of us interview potential hires for our own depts.) -- i have seen recruiters mess up: send me the wrong resume, the wrong name, the wrong contact info -- and general dropping of the ball --- most of these recruiters are contractors -- and when enough complaints by us are received by HR -- the recruiter is replaced

point is -- if you think a recruiter screwed up -- for example a "after our conversation note" -- and you did not have a conversation -- send a follwup note explaining the misunderstanding

if you want the job and you think your a good fit -- be persistent till you get an interview

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IBMer in Winchester, Massachusetts

92 months ago

unemployedGeek said:
so why accept resumes and advertise when you have no intention of ever hiring the people who respond to you? Isn't that fraudulent?
Why pass up so much talent?

we really do receive resumes submitted via the web site -- but you gota get past those screening the resumes w/ a key-word mentality --

(if your qualified for real, you probably know what the key words are for a given position, though you may not have initially thought to write the resume in this style -- rewrite, resubmit )

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tom in Milwaukee, Wisconsin

92 months ago

IBMer said:
as an interviewer (i am a consultant -- some of us interview potential hires for our own depts.) -- i have seen recruiters mess up: send me the wrong resume, the wrong name, the wrong contact info -- and general dropping of the ball --- most of these recruiters are contractors -- and when enough complaints by us are received by HR -- the recruiter is replaced
point is -- if you think a recruiter screwed up -- for example a "after our conversation note" -- and you did not have a conversation -- send a follwup note explaining the misunderstanding
if you want the job and you think your a good fit -- be persistent till you get an interview

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tom in Milwaukee, Wisconsin

92 months ago

I couldn't even apply to a position that was posted. They use that software that I had entered a resume, found the position, put it in the cart, applied to what was in cart and it took me right back into submitting a resume. It was a constant circle that got me no results.

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Sarge in Charlotte, North Carolina

91 months ago

NDA said:
I can't attest that the "friends" connection isn't true. I worked in IBM Global Services for a number of years until laid-off after dotcom bubble burst... I've called a number of Executive PMs and my old Principal.. it's out of their hands. They even gave me specific job post numbers to submit to.. still no response. I've spammed IBM's job site as much as they spam job boards and all I've ever heard is the sucking noise of the resume black-hole vortex. And the irony is.. that when I talk to folks I used to work with, they've got open position on their projects and in need of help... go figure???? It didn't used to be that way. Maybe it's part of the "synergies" of acquiring PWC?
By and large, I've found sending resumes to job postings to be mostly useless... having my resume visible on job boards is where I've received responses.

The only responses I have received from having my resume visible on the job boards is offers to sell life insurance, and get-rich-quick home businesses.

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Bruce in Carrollton, Texas

91 months ago

There is no "HR" department. I was interviewed by non-HR professionals. Four months of hit or miss. When I finally did not hear after another two months, I emailed my "contacts". Their response, "Oh, we are so sorry, didn't anyone get back to you? We've moved in a different direction." BTW, that is the latest HR lame phrase - "moved in a different direction". Not only was I the most qualified person for this mid-level position, but I passed every written test they had me take. Now we know why IBM gave up its hardware and software business to go into the consulting B.S. business. It amazes me how these companies grow to billions of dollars in sales with such incompetance. Brings new meaning to: "There's a sucker born every minute (now second)."

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My Man Barack in San Jose, California

91 months ago

I keep getting these emails about technical writing jobs. But there seems to be no place to apply except on-line. And I already did about 6 months ago. Then there are the recruiters based in Bangalore...

It seems just a waste of time. I don't want to fall into the resume black hole.

If IBM is serious give me a real person to apply to.

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CONSULTANT in Charlotte, North Carolina

91 months ago

Well, my experience is different I've submitted my resume online just last week and the very next day I got an e-mail from IBM recruiter. they could not pursue further due to some non compete clauses with my current company..

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Shawn P in Stone Mountain, Georgia

91 months ago

I'm noticing that many of you criticize the company as a whole based on your lack of a response from a recruiter. Here's what I believe happens. Like MOST companies, we offer new positions to internal sources first. We, like MOST companies, prefer to grow our own talent and promote from within*. I think that in some (most?) cases, external recruiters are obtaining these job postings and posting them for themselves. That's the only explanation I can come up with for the cornucopia of job postings out there for IBM.

Now, at a more critical level, I'm noticing that more than half of you have significant typos in your posts here. Many of you, as well, seem to have very immature attitudes and jump to irrational conclusions about a company and post grammatically incorrect mistake ridden posts here about how you should run, not walk, away from IBM.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that IBM is probably not the only company not giving you much love in the Job Seeking arena.

* Although admittedly it's often a promotion in title only. Few things trigger pay increases here, but that's a sign of the times in IT Servers, not unique to IBM

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You're Wrong in San Jose, California

91 months ago

This just isn't true. IBM hires many engineers because they are cheaper. Spelling has little to do with it. Qualified Americans are still being ditched. It's not promotion from within- it's hiring H1Bs.

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Tootle in Lafayette, Colorado

91 months ago

They call these "CYA" postings or "phantom postings".
They have to post them but they already identified an internal candidate.

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EH

89 months ago

Um...pretty much all states are that way. I don't know of any that aren't. You don't like it, save your money and move.

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michiganjobblank in Clarkston, Michigan

89 months ago

Don't bother applying to IBM, these are all ficticious postings to make it look like they are going places. I had an insider even try to help and this person was baffled why it went nowhere. This person commented to me that it isn't really suprising because of the way things haphazardly get done at IBM.

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TJ in Raleigh, North Carolina

87 months ago

A little late on the response here, but as someone who has been involved on the HR side at IBM and other large corporations, I find all of these responses amusing.

“I know I am a fit”; “I expect a response” – listen to yourselves?!? We seem to have a bunch of SMEs in HR and recruiting on this thread, yet none of you are in HR or recruiting. Do you honestly believe that someone is going to call every single applicant that applies to IBM? That is a larger number than you all can possibly realize. This is not unique to IBM, but most Fortune 500s.

No, their HR is not outsourced to India. No, all these postings are not for H1Bs. No, third-party firms are not engaged due to volumes. Contract-houses like CDI and others have nothing to do with the hiring process at IBM. Folks, the facts are real simple. If you are qualified for the opportunity you are applying to and they have not already identified another applicant (individuals who have applied prior to you) – then someone is going to contact you. Knowing the internal process at IBM, they DO review those applicants who are basically qualified for the roles they are applying to.

If telling yourself all these excuses justifies your not being selected/contacted, then continue. There are a couple of decent suggestions in here – LinkedIn (and other network sites), networking. Despite all this technology that we utilize, knowing key people still is the best way to promote your candidacy.

Not trying to be rude – just real.

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sentinel741 in Auburn Hills, Michigan

87 months ago

Doesn't sound like a company I'd want to work for.

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Ted in Littleton, Colorado

87 months ago

SFGal in San Francisco, California said: Get a grip people....the name of the game is networking. Don't expect to get a job by submitting your resume to a company this size. It's who you know and if you don't know someone get to know someone.

Try LinkedIn -- it's a great networking resource.

Nepotism is why things are so screwed up. You are saying that if you know someone then you get a job. That is
just what is happening in the great corporate world...Get a grip....

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t in Saranac Lake, New York

85 months ago

I applied, was responded to immediately. Phone screen. Then they flew me down to MD for face to face meetings. Everything was going fine up till then....

Cab ride from BWI to Gaithersburg - $200 cash.
Greeted at lobby and escorted to conference room.
Three hours of meetings.
Water, food, bathroom? Nah.
Walked back to the lobby for a cab to BWI - $200 cash.
Never heard from them again.

They say they want to be a creative shop - they showed me absolutely no work. They were not even willing to talk about what types of clients and projects they had.

When I pressed them about downtime, I was informed one would be shipped off to another center. Apparently this does not count as travel time...

Still waiting on my expense check....

If you are young, single, have no life, and want to get a consulting gig with a fancy business card - then this is for you!

If you have been consulting for a while, know your stuff, have a desire to have a stable life - then you might not be too eager for this.

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Jake_EE in Elyria, Ohio

85 months ago

Ted in Littleton, Colorado said: Nepotism is why things are so screwed up. You are saying that if you know someone then you get a job. That is
just what is happening in the great corporate world...Get a grip....

Hahaha, yep!

My experience with trying to make network connections with strangers is next to none.

This may be a bad analogy but it is like trying to get in the Mafia. Strangers are not quick to trust an unknown stranger.

Networking seems to work best for "family and friends".

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IBM Employeed in Longmont, Colorado

25 months ago

Wow,didn't know how many people actually dislike IBM. Hmm Sorry you all had bad stories about them. I started about 4 weeks ago. CCI hired me and I work on the Apple contract. I passed the computer CCI has you take. Went through my training for Apple. Now learning more. Everyone that I have met at IBM "Thus Far" has been amazing. I have yet to meet one person that is not nice, friendly, and or approachable. I did not know anyone "special" to get a job there. I just applied on career-builder and about I hink it was two weeks later received a call from CCI and figured what the heck! I had people telling me that the Apple contract is hard and no one ever stays there. Was a bit worried, but now that I am on the floor taking calls. I hope to stay there. Ya you get the angry customers but there is always Good with the Bad.
Good Luck to everyone!

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worked as a contractor at ibm in Yorktown Heights, New York

17 months ago

IBM(and most large corps) don't want older workers, no matter how much experience they have.

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