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ITT Technical Institute Forum - ITT - Tech Is A SCAM!!!!!!!!!! DON"T DO IT!: Me again! I would send a written "Retra...

2013-05-25 16:48:34.0

Me again! I would send a written "Retraction of intent to attend" to your ITT Tech recruiter directly. Then send copies to any lender that ITT Tech has set you up with. Also, I would not step a foot on campus and only correspond in writing. You are under no obligation if you do not ever warm one of their chairs. The money you spend in stamps is money well spent. One more thing, if you have gotten approval for student loans through your efforts to attend ITT Tech, just take those approvals to another school of your choice.

ITT Technical Institute Forum - ITT - Tech Is A SCAM!!!!!!!!!! DON"T DO IT!: Further comment: This forum should real...

2013-05-25 16:29:52.0

Further comment: This forum should really be divided into groups. Group (1)for those under 30 years old that think they know everything and are willing to lie to get a job and who industry will hire with almost any degree as long as they can look convincing. Group (2) would be those under 50 who actually do know a lot because they have survived the lies that they have had to tell to get to where they are now. Group (3) those that are above 50 have been laid off or otherwise jettisoned by the work place and who are not getting hired because they wont lie anymore to get a job. ITT Tech might be a good option for group 1, because they will have the rest of their lives to recover from how badly they got ripped off. But if you are in group 2 or 3 don't be deluded into thinking that attending ITT Tech is going to help you become that somebody that you think you want to become. Because you will only be viewed as somebody that is a 'wannabe' that for whatever reason could not make it through more authentic channels of trainings. And if you actually have a real Bachelors Degree from a real University, why would want to waste your time with ITT Tech when you could get into a Masters Program at a real University and actually compliment your bachelors degree with something credible.

ITT Technical Institute Forum - ITT - Tech Is A SCAM!!!!!!!!!! DON"T DO IT!: To Chemdude - Yes...stay as far away fro...

2013-05-25 15:52:23.0

To Chemdude - Yes...stay as far away from there as possible. I did teach for ITT Tech for over a year, and although I met some really sharp students, that was due to the difficulty in the classes -- they were not as rigorous as you will find from a regionally accredited university. Were you aware that ITT Tech is….not….regionally…accredited. They are nationally accredited and you will be lumped into the same category as students who cannot make it in a regular college/university. Plus, you cost is much more and you are not getting your money’s worth. I will say, that during my time, there were some visits from the FBI for newly graduating students in electronics. Out of about 24 people who were qualified to be interviewed, only 1 was selected to start the process to get hired. He came to me a week or two later and they dropped him from consideration. At least you have not started yet. I can give you a preview of what will happen the first week of your course if you don’t show. You will receive a call from your instructor. They are required to call you when you don’t show up. They will do that each time you don’t show up. Your instructor will want you to come in, even if it’s for one hour. That’s because even if you show up 1 hour you are counted as having attended. Now the funding that they got for you to attend can be charged and they get paid. You will end up paying that back. Watch yourself and be careful.

ITT Technical Institute Forum - ITT - Tech Is A SCAM!!!!!!!!!! DON"T DO IT!: Responding to statement below: When I w...

2013-05-25 15:36:58.0

Responding to statement below: When I went to ITT Tech, I had been working in the computer industry for oer 25 years with the Computer Science Core requirements from a well recognized private university as my training but no degree. I graduated from the Information System Security program (a completely bogus program by the way!) While in school at ITT Tech I landed a job completely on my own with United Health Group before I graduated that paid me $24 per hour as a Network Analyst but as a contractor. I then graduated from ITT Tech in Nov 2007. The following September 2008 United Health Group laid off all contractors. When I inquired about being hired on as a direct hire the director of operations of UHG who was my boss HE told me that if I had a bachelors degree that he would consider hiring me direct. I exclaimed that I did have a bachelors of science degree from ITT Tech. He told me that I did extremely well as a contractor but that he would need a real degree from a real university for him to hire me direct. So I am now at 2013 having casted about for jobs in my profession for 5 years with my ITT Tech degree and I have to say that I got more response in the job market when I only had my work experience listed and 4 years of training with no degree then what I get now. Now my age could have something to do with it I am 61 now. But I haven't really worked in my profession now for almost 5 years. I have enough money to get a CDL from the local community college and I am starting as a truck driver in less then a month and I am happy as a lark. But if you expect to get the big bucks in IT and are over 55 years of age don't do ITT Tech. Got to your local community college and take a course in LAN Administration or Networking and then apply for an entry level job as a LAN support technician and continue part time at the community college. Don't end up like me with a defaulted student loan that I can't pay for. ITT Tech has no credibility in industry!

ITT Technical Institute Forum - ITT - Tech Is A SCAM!!!!!!!!!! DON"T DO IT!: Ok, wish I had discovered this site befo...

2013-05-25 13:59:07.0

Ok, wish I had discovered this site before signing on the dotted line. I am supposed to start at ITT Anaheim on June 17th. I have always had a good impression of ITT and its graduates until I read these comments today. They are trying to establish a new campus in Anaheim so the fee is $24,000. I have a B.S. in Chemistry but have been out of the field for 30+ years. Recently laid off as a test technician at IMC Networks. New owners moving assembly/test to Illinois. I need something to help me get gainfully employed. These $9/hr technician jobs don't hack it. IT/Networking looks like a great field. My big concern has been whether I could get hired even with an A.A. or A.S. in IT at my age. I've compared the classes at ITT to Saddleback College. ITT seems to be much more rigorous so that brings in the question if their graduates are better thought of than a Community College grads.

ITT Technical Institute Forum - ITT - Tech Is A SCAM!!!!!!!!!! DON"T DO IT!: Goo job man! That's the exact mindset yo...

2013-05-22 15:55:55.0

Goo job man! That's the exact mindset you need!

ITT Technical Institute Forum - ITT - Tech Is A SCAM!!!!!!!!!! DON"T DO IT!: [QUOTE ]" If employers in your area don'...

2013-05-13 04:04:31.0

[QUOTE ]" If employers in your area don't respect the degree then blame the campus as they should have company bosses as program adviser's. In the Syracuse market ITT students where chosen over SU, Cornell, RIT and several other colleges as my students could out perform the other's from the first day. [/QUOTE] ITT students taken SU, RIT, Cornell, et all??? Please... why in the world would any sane and legit employer do such a ridiculous thing? If that were the case, then the employer would absolutely love me. I'm self-taught. I guarantee that I can run circles around your ITT grads "from the first day"... and I'll even let you pick the category of study! So, because of the "blow-hard" that I am, I'll just walk right in there, tell them how great I am, prove it, and they'll hire me... right? I seriously doubt it! They'll take me over someone who holds an accredited degree from a prestigious university? OK! That's great! What's the name of the employer? I'll head right over there, right now, and oh yeah... thanks for the job lead!

ITT Technical Institute Forum - ITT - Tech Is A SCAM!!!!!!!!!! DON"T DO IT!: Actually, I completed the full applicati...

2013-05-11 10:51:26.0

Actually, I completed the full application and was accepted on the spot seems a little. When I sign up for the army they showed me a list of all the schools that are not accepted. ITT Tech is the number one school that the credits do not transfer.

ITT Technical Institute Forum - ITT - Tech Is A SCAM!!!!!!!!!! DON"T DO IT!: [QUOTE who="Infinid00 in Phoenix, Arizon...

2013-05-08 12:08:25.0

[QUOTE who="Infinid00 in Phoenix, Arizona"]So ITT Tech is a scam yet you taught there for over 4 years. Sounds to me like something happened and they let you go and now your all butt hurt about it. It's not a scam. It's a for profit business. I knew this right up front and still went there and it worked out great for me. Never wanted to attend a university or transfer credits. It's on the student to know what they are getting into and what to expect.[/QUOTE] If I were a used car salesman I would love to sell you a car as is with 3 wheels, no engine, and no steering wheel for $100,000! Your reality is not even close to where it needs to be. Are you under some kind of heavy medication to actually say that ITT is not a scam? As for you saying it worked out for you I can only imagine what that would possibly mean in your very disturbed off kilter world.

ITT Technical Institute Forum - ITT - Tech Is A SCAM!!!!!!!!!! DON"T DO IT!: So ITT Tech is a scam yet you taught the...

2013-05-07 18:42:40.0

So ITT Tech is a scam yet you taught there for over 4 years. Sounds to me like something happened and they let you go and now your all butt hurt about it. It's not a scam. It's a for profit business. I knew this right up front and still went there and it worked out great for me. Never wanted to attend a university or transfer credits. It's on the student to know what they are getting into and what to expect.

ITT Technical Institute Forum - ITT - Tech Is A SCAM!!!!!!!!!! DON"T DO IT!: [QUOTE who="snookers in Gettysburg, Penn...

2013-05-01 22:20:04.0

[QUOTE who="snookers in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania"]In a good job market, it always pays to apply to ads even if you do not fully qualify. The ad reflects their wishlist but often they accept a candidate with less if they had a favorable interview. Your salary range does not reflect the quality of work you perform but going market rate that commensurate with your qualifications on paper. ITT degrees are worthless because of the low graduation standards which hurts the good ones like you[/QUOTE] I can't say it better, which is the reasoning behind my lack of recommending ITT to would be students. Thanks for you observation Snookers, you have enlightened me and your words are appreciated.

ITT Technical Institute Forum - ITT - Tech Is A SCAM!!!!!!!!!! DON"T DO IT!: [QUOTE who="Dumb ITT Graduate in Anywher...

2013-05-01 19:28:32.0

[QUOTE who="Dumb ITT Graduate in Anywhere, Texas"]Maybe so... I'll never know. Reality is anyone who has their nose in the air about school won't stop at ITT, they'll avoid considering smaller unknown universities too so one must choose wisely. I'm in a niche market where many of my competitors need H1B sponsorship and this leaves me with more opportunity. I get contacted often by headhunters but I eliminate many positions because they're offering much less and desire more eduction - not a good mix for me. The last employer that started out with the "ITT is equivalent to high school" attitude ended up not only hiring me, they promoted me to Jr Engineer a few years later. Funny thing is the only reason they interviewed me is because they required a BSEE for a Engineering Tech job, and thought it was strange that I'd be applying since they figured I had no idea that I only has an AS degree.... turns out I was the only one who answered the lead designer's questions correctly out of all the applicants. Anyway, this being said, I do agree with most of what you're saying. I'm stuck seeing people surpass me and moving up the ladder, which is why I'm looking to go back to school. If I had to do it all over again, you can bet I'd choose a good university instead. Then again, I never though I'd earn more than ~$50k with a BAS from ITT. It's comforting to know that worst case scenario I'd have to settle for more than that if my fit hits the shan. Most experienced Sr Techs in my arena earn upwards of $70k with an AS or AAS.[/QUOTE] In a good job market, it always pays to apply to ads even if you do not fully qualify. The ad reflects their wishlist but often they accept a candidate with less if they had a favorable interview. Your salary range does not reflect the quality of work you perform but going market rate that commensurate with your qualifications on paper. ITT degrees are worthless because of the low graduation standards which hurts the good ones like you

ITT Technical Institute Forum - ITT - Tech Is A SCAM!!!!!!!!!! DON"T DO IT!: [QUOTE who="snookers in Gettysburg, Penn...

2013-05-01 16:58:10.0

[QUOTE who="snookers in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania"]Fourteen years ago, it was a different job market and employees were in the saddle. Now it is employer's market and fact is that employers do not value ITT or similar "for profit" school highly. The practically laugh at it. About the same as a High School graduate. Also may be ITT was better 14 years ago and not everybody graduated, including those with no acquired knowledge . Nowadays you do not want to touch it with a ten foot pole.[/QUOTE] Maybe so... I'll never know. Reality is anyone who has their nose in the air about school won't stop at ITT, they'll avoid considering smaller unknown universities too so one must choose wisely. I'm in a niche market where many of my competitors need H1B sponsorship and this leaves me with more opportunity. I get contacted often by headhunters but I eliminate many positions because they're offering much less and desire more eduction - not a good mix for me. The last employer that started out with the "ITT is equivalent to high school" attitude ended up not only hiring me, they promoted me to Jr Engineer a few years later. Funny thing is the only reason they interviewed me is because they required a BSEE for a Engineering Tech job, and thought it was strange that I'd be applying since they figured I had no idea that I only has an AS degree.... turns out I was the only one who answered the lead designer's questions correctly out of all the applicants. Anyway, this being said, I do agree with most of what you're saying. I'm stuck seeing people surpass me and moving up the ladder, which is why I'm looking to go back to school. If I had to do it all over again, you can bet I'd choose a good university instead. Then again, I never though I'd earn more than ~$50k with a BAS from ITT. It's comforting to know that worst case scenario I'd have to settle for more than that if my fit hits the shan. Most experienced Sr Techs in my arena earn upwards of $70k with an AS or AAS.

ITT Technical Institute Forum - ITT - Tech Is A SCAM!!!!!!!!!! DON"T DO IT!: [QUOTE who="Dumb ITT Graduate in Anywher...

2013-05-01 16:04:32.0

[QUOTE who="Dumb ITT Graduate in Anywhere, Texas"]This is one of very few comments that is in line with my experience at ITT. ITT was pretty tough to get through at AAS level, and even tougher at BAS. Lots of my fellow students were weeded out and we were the only "quarter" that was getting smaller. I do admit if I did it all over again though, I'd go for the bachelor's at an accredited school. Oh, for the AAS program there was a mix of Bachelor's, Masters and one PHD professor, but the BAS program was taught only by those with Masters or PHDs. Not that any of this matters, you can see by the attitudes shown here that lots of traditional U grads gawk at ITT grads for good reason. Kinda tough having to compete with a one who's usually earning more than you with the advanced degree. My only reason for choosing the traditional University route today is because I interview with some of these guys and need to get around their roadblocks. I also saw alot of comments on tuition costs - OMG! I paid ~$35k for my BAS, and it's interesting that they've gone up so much in 14 years. Then again, all the Us I'm looking into are very expensive as well, but lower than ITT.[/QUOTE] Fourteen years ago, it was a different job market and employees were in the saddle. Now it is employer's market and fact is that employers do not value ITT or similar "for profit" school highly. The practically laugh at it. About the same as a High School graduate. Also may be ITT was better 14 years ago and not everybody graduated, including those with no acquired knowledge . Nowadays you do not want to touch it with a ten foot pole.

ITT Technical Institute Forum - ITT - Tech Is A SCAM!!!!!!!!!! DON"T DO IT!: *weren't the only "quarter" that was get...

2013-05-01 15:25:22.0

*weren't the only "quarter" that was getting smaller... sorry about that.

ITT Technical Institute Forum - ITT - Tech Is A SCAM!!!!!!!!!! DON"T DO IT!: [QUOTE who="1-Year-In in Taunton, Massac...

2013-05-01 15:23:11.0

[QUOTE who="1-Year-In in Taunton, Massachusetts"]Why are their even ITT-Tech bashing forums to begin with? .. listen to the things you say .. and people flunk out all the time in my campus at ITT-Tech .. the classes keep getting smaller and smaller from people dropping out? .. gee i wonder .. because it's hard .. it's not easy. Every single one of my teachers have at least a masters, i'been lucky enough to be being taught by a professor with a fellowship at Harvard computer science in Boston, MA. As I said before, many people flunk out, there are NO free passes at my campus. The classes are getting smaller and smaller, and it has nothing to do with money, they are just dumb and don't want to put the work and effort into what they are doing. I do ... I'm holding a 3.7 GPA after 1 year, and it's because I study hard and i do all the work.[/QUOTE] This is one of very few comments that is in line with my experience at ITT. ITT was pretty tough to get through at AAS level, and even tougher at BAS. Lots of my fellow students were weeded out and we were the only "quarter" that was getting smaller. I do admit if I did it all over again though, I'd go for the bachelor's at an accredited school. Oh, for the AAS program there was a mix of Bachelor's, Masters and one PHD professor, but the BAS program was taught only by those with Masters or PHDs. Not that any of this matters, you can see by the attitudes shown here that lots of traditional U grads gawk at ITT grads for good reason. Kinda tough having to compete with a one who's usually earning more than you with the advanced degree. My only reason for choosing the traditional University route today is because I interview with some of these guys and need to get around their roadblocks. I also saw alot of comments on tuition costs - OMG! I paid ~$35k for my BAS, and it's interesting that they've gone up so much in 14 years. Then again, all the Us I'm looking into are very expensive as well, but lower than ITT.

ITT Technical Institute Forum - ITT - Tech Is A SCAM!!!!!!!!!! DON"T DO IT!: Continued..... So with my experience, m...

2013-05-01 14:54:10.0

Continued..... So with my experience, many who do the hiring frown on tech degrees so I choose whom I work for wisely. Nice thing is because I do have the BAS, many overlook the school and focus on what I can contribute to the company. Weighing this with my established network, good track record and knowledge level, I've been able to remain +/-20% of the 6 figure mark for the past 7 years (no, I'm not cheap.) I actually know one other guy that irritates me because he's got the same title as I do, earns almost as much and only got his AAS from ITT. Anyway, when consulting any students looking for a school I insist ITT is not for them, unless they just want complacency and to earn no more than $50k/yr, ever. The reason for this is because that's where most ITT grads end up in the long run, but that's probably their own fault. Over the years, I've worked with lots of people who never get promoted because they're always whining about having to put in extra hours or heaven forbid, study unpaid at home to be able to contribute more to their company. I've found those who have AAS degrees & put in the extra effort can get to $70k pretty easily as a senior technician or Jr. Engineer (it's uncommon for AAS grads to hold Engineering titles.) Now, I must add that I was mentored by many who saw my potential and I'm very grateful they fostered my career. Nonetheless, if it wasn't for my passive assertive attitude and the fact that I took all their crap while keeping my chin up, I wouldn't be where I am today. One more fact: I could break my self induced ~$120k barrier if I decided to go into sales and was willing to relocate, but I like living where I'm at right now. Bring on the doubtful and nay-sayers so I can have some laughs.

ITT Technical Institute Forum - ITT - Tech Is A SCAM!!!!!!!!!! DON"T DO IT!: Interesting reading here, but alot of ne...

2013-05-01 14:35:14.0

Interesting reading here, but alot of negative comments are way off. First, you cannot expect to compare the education level of any school vs perseverance of an individual and expect to correlate the two. Unless you're talking about some schools in the upper NE, success is not a guarantee no matter where you decide to study. In my career (Pseudo Engineer as I like to call it,) I've found that the salary scale is vast to say the least. Some come in to the electrical world as low as $35k with a BSEE working as a technician. Others are more aggressive and start at $60k, sometimes $70k. As for me, I liked the AAS EET program at ITT enough that I decided to pursue a BAS EET even though it meant moving out of state. Sucked really, but I was already in knee deep and just decided to keep going. During the two programs, lots of students were weeded out either due to their grades or just that the pressure made them quit on their own. The AAS program started with ~40 students, and 10 of us made it through. Second round with BAS, you'd expect a much higher rate of success, but it was similar where 28 started and 8 of us earned the BAS. Anyway, I know what I earn and I negotiate very aggressively when looking for a new job. When I got out, I started as a tech and earned ~$42k my first year in 2000. Ever since, I've made more each year and have been promoted within my specialty. At this time, I'm comfortably over 6 figures and piss off lots of university grads when we are friendly enough to discuss salaries. This year will likely not land much bonus and boo-hoo, I'll end up earning just under $110k. School and education are a way to get your foot in the door, but what you decide to do with the opportunity is purely up to you. Now for the negative - at this time, I'm stuck in an earning potential that won't exceed ~$120k anytime soon. Because of this, I'm considering heading back to either ITT school of business (2 yr) or a traditional university for a 2nd bachelor's in Business.

ITT Technical Institute Forum - List of Schools where can I transfer my ITT TECh credits: Hello, i would like to say how sick I...

2013-04-29 11:18:53.0

Hello, i would like to say how sick I am of hearing people complain about this school. Honestly its so juvenile and all these people who supposedly worked for the school I don't believe for a minute. All I ever see is ITT Tech is a scam!!!! It is getting really old. Stop complaining and do something. Also those that claim that employers do not hire from this school they really have no idea. I currently work in I.T. and also i have many head hunters and recruiters that are after me for jobs. I want to move out of state and they all offer in state. Also those that say that the students are less intelligent here is some food for thought most of my classmates,the exceptional ones, were engineering students that got tired of the ridiculous curriculum at the 4 year universities. I was classmates with one student who was a genius at calculus who was a computer programming major. I also had many classmates in Physics class that could do those problems in their sleep. I remember one Indian student he could complete the tests in about 10 minutes and he got all A's. Our homework for that class would make most of you cry. As for those that think its such an honor to graduate from a community college, I am sorry, but I would never brag about being only a community college grad. I am taking a class with some community college grads now for my Security+ and I am much more knowledgeable. I agree its over priced and the standards are low for admission. I only went, because I wanted good foundation for computer science. When people ask about my experience I am mature about it and state I feel it was over priced, but I learned what i needed to know. I am also not lazy too. I know a degree doesn't grant you any thing. I'm currently being looked at by Drexel University to further my degree to a bachelors and then to an MBA. Also I have taken courses from Stanford and M.I.T I have spent time at the nationally accredited universities and the regionally accredited. Stop complaining.

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2013-04-26 08:37:49.0

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