ITT - Tech Is A SCAM!!!!!!!!!! DON"T DO IT!

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zo in Davenport, Florida

51 months ago

Love ITT in Wheaton, Illinois said: ITT is awesome! it's not the school that's the problem. It's the people that goes there and don't do anything about learning. Everyone always wants to blame someone or something for there problems. I know plenty of people that goes to ITT and are very successful in their career. You can go to any four year and still come out a dumb ass. In this world you have to be a man and make your own decision in life. I am sick of all the people on here that is trying to down the school (ITT). Get a life, ITT will be around forever. If you don't like ITT go somewhere else, as for the ex-teachers...keep it that way. And for those who are trying to find the right school, don't be afraid to go to ITT. (Be a master of your craft)|don't let the devil on your shoulder talk you our of your dreams and aspirations. Learn, get it all and create a life that you always want. Ask yourself why is all these people talking trash about ITT, why are they trying to stop you from moving up in life.
I attend ITT now. There is alot Im learning there. Their are alot of employers who come to ITT looking for talent. Everyones situations different but I wouldnt call the school a scam.

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zo in Davenport, Florida

51 months ago

LisaEllen in Laconia, New Hampshire said: I attend ITT tech because it works around my daughter's schedule. I am a single mother to a two year old, I own my own business, I pay 2k a month for a mortgage and 400 for a new car and I am still only 3 quarters into school (no child support). I chose ITT tech to add knowledge of computers to my resume. I work my ass off both in and outside that school. I was accepted to Harvard, BU and UCLA. I said no because simply put I didn't want to be 15 years old in a huge university so I went off on my own excursions. When I was 18 I started my business and by 19 bought my house. Do not tell me I lack drive or intelligence and definitely don't tell me I am lazy. This school is perfect for my schedule, fits my life and is actually giving me the knowledge I need to expand and develop more into my company.
Keep doing your thing mommy. All colleges are for profit.Did you say u were single?

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zo in Davenport, Florida

51 months ago

Keep in touch

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stpn2me in Carlisle, Pennsylvania

50 months ago

@anonymous..

Spoken like a true liberal. Calm down and please stop cursing. No one told you to become a "conceptional artist". What did you think? There was a shortage of "artists"? Did you think the majority of artists command six-figure salaries?

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hatersbelearners in vancouver, Washington

50 months ago

first and formost for those who dont know...

It stands for International Telephone and Telegraph.

ITT Tech is owned and operated by ITT Educational Services, Inc.. ITT Educational Services, Inc. was spun off by ITT Corporation through an initial public offering in 1994, with parent company ITT as an 83% shareholder. ITT Tech licenses the "ITT" name from ITT Corporation, which originates from the latter company's original name "International Telephone & Telegraph".

Read more: wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_ITT_tech_stand_for#ixzz1hImAF1t5

second... as far as earnings not being what was expected lets clarify some things.

the only person to blame for your salary is indeed yourself. Every degree has an average salary, however that does not promise your salary. and yes like all averages it take the highest paid(some people) and the lowest paid(this can be you). also you must remember getting a job that you want is based on how you can promote yourself. every well almost every job requires an interview and a resume. This being said if you suck at promoting yourself how can u expect for a company to want to higher you. Its like in the military you write an eval and your eval is put up against other peoples evals. If u cant write an eval well or make urself sound amazing then u will be ranked lower than someone who can even if u think or in some cases know u do better work. So promoting yourself is key.
Another thing is you must understand all places of higher learning are a business period. regaurdless of which college you attend they are making money off you. You people who think that ITT is the only place of learning who is out for profit only are so foolish. look up the prices of out of state tuitions and u will find its quite spendy even if not near the ITT pricemark. Now along with paying for a class anywhere u have the choice to fail. This is where a college makes its money. For every student who passes there is another one who fails.

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hatersbelearners in vancouver, Washington

50 months ago

this being said while your 20,000 goes to a degree and your future another student is just 20 grand in the hole. so use your money wisely and do what u have to to pass and get the job done.

next you must remember that a student loan is also a business so dont complain when your in debt after graduation cuz u should expect that it will take time to pay that off. just like getting a new credit card and maxing it out ... u still owe that to someone eventually.

I want to clarify i have never attended ITT and im currently in the military. however my Father is the Dean of a current branch in the Pacific northwest. he started from teacher and worked his way up. he has had complaints but there is more that goes on then everyone knows and/or should just like with any business. I am not being paid for this and my father or anyone at ITT is unaware of my writing this. I do however have plans of attending one i get out of the military. i have been to seminars the campus holds on many many job oportunities and i will tell you that there are alot of jobs available. You just need to do research and find the right people. The technical field is booming with jobs and the navy times quoted some 100,000 to 500,00 tech jobs unclaimed. I was just made aware of a job that starts out over 100,000 a year and they were looking for recruits near the portland area from ITT. So making alot is definately possible upon completion. you just need to put yourself in the position to get there. No path is ever easy but you can make it if you put your mind to it. also all the people saying they used to work there and hate it. notice the time line. 4-5 years and such. look they were most likely fired. sorry to say but def possible. People dont quit easy jobs that bring home a paycheck if they dont have to. and this is not the military so they could have quit anytime and not 5 yrs later. like i said ITT is a business to and have to make cuts on jobs just like every other business.

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Scott Tudehope in Etiwanda, California

49 months ago

I was a part time then FT instructor of GE subjects at ITT Tech in SoCal. To say that I was surprised to hear about them opening up a health care major is an understatement.

The only thing that I can compare this institutional scam to is what the early pioneers of medicine were probably doing -- making up the medical rules as they could. I compare ITT "nursing schools" to Wild West medicine wagon hog wash. As intellectually challenging as real nurse and doctor preparation programs can be, rest assured that what I observed at ITT Tech in San Bernardino, Calif., was a far cry from what other real colleges offer.

I never once saw lab equipment of any kind. I never once saw medicines analyzed in a chemistry class, uhm, because the classes weren't offered, naturally. I never once saw a pharmaceuticals class as well, nor did I see actual MD's or specialists any where. What I did see was a white female heading up a new department who said that she was an RN. I never questioned her credentials, as it wasn't my role to do this.

Stay away, serious students of medicine, from ITT Technical Institute.

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Scott Tudehope in Etiwanda, California

49 months ago

I am so glad to meet a kindred spirit here. You backed up my negative comments about this essentially evil Indiana corporation, and I sincerely appreciate your input.

I was a teacher of general education courses at ITT Tech in San Bernardino for two and a half years. It was some of the roughest teaching that I have ever done, but also some of the most gratifying, to be fair. I got to work with students who often couldn't be accepted to other colleges due to their illegal drug past, felony convictions or other issues. Talk about an underserved population.

The only thing that I regret about getting asked to leave ITT Blech was that I was unable to get a written letter of recommendation from any of my managers. I was so outspoken as to the nature of their business that soon, naturally, I became the target. Thus it is with truth tellers. We often get hurt.

Take care, if you read this, and know that deep inside you and I helped a lot of students. In the long run, if they work really hard and apply themselves to these classes, many actually will be hired. I wish them, and you, nothing but success.

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steph in Birmingham, Alabama

48 months ago

Itt tech is a Scam said: I was an admissions advisor and I am writing this because sometimes you are going to read positive remarks from current students(All these encouraging comments are from fake students and are actually paid by ITT Tech to say bogus and phony messages) In the year I was working for ITT TECH I have only heard complaints from students.

I am working for ITT and I know what’s going on, everybody knows ITT-TECH and their fabricated information and invented reports, I am surpassed they still in the education business, they should be in the Sublime loans or any fraud and unethical business. The only concern of the management in the HQ is to increase profits and do not care about students, I believe ITT Tech soon will go down because I know about many lawsuits waiting for ITT.
Here is the main problem with this company -- they are extremely misleading and what they describe as their "Mission Statement" and what is being said and reviewed behind closed doors is the definition of hypocritical. They claim to be changing students lives (yes this is true will bleed you dry, ITT TECH is nothing but money launderers, it is a mafia) at ITT TECH You are not a student -- you are a "start number".
Absolutely, no good reasons to work for this unethical institute, most horrible management practices, bogus and fake reports and information about the company.
Who would have thought that ITT TECH can be permitted to be up and running with so many , morals complaints, ethics violations, and educational deception and hoax.
I totally agree, ITT TECH is nothing but money launderers, you are not a student you are a "start number” ITT TECH is a big MAFIA.

I still feel weird about that entrance exam

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EducatedAfro-Appalachian in Cincinnati, Ohio

48 months ago

Before going to college do the research and check the accreditation.

1. www.acics.org
2. About Us
3. Directory of Institutions

Check the list of schools people your ITT credits may transfer to those schools accredited by the same people .

Simple if you cannot find a job in the field you went to school for go back to school and choose another field or possibly transfer to another school?

This is what I learned at ITT Technical Institute do your research and prep work.There is always a solution but, it is up to you to find the one that works best for you!!!!!!!

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itt student in Jackson, Michigan

47 months ago

i am currently attending itt there are many things i dont like about the school but this was the only school in my area that offered a program similar to what i already had training for in the army. plus i am a single parent and most schools or teachers dont care about what goes on in your personal life regardless the circumstances they expect you to be there and be on time every scheduled class. itt has worked with me so i can obtain a degree in electrical engineering.true the credits may not transfer but most regular colleges that im aware of allow you to test out of classes or gage where you would need to start in their program. if your so stupid that you cant test out of a regular colleges' classes after acquiring a degree you had no business thinking you could attend college in the first place. my teachers have not steered me wrong as to what i will probably make starting out and with my millitary experience alone i could get a job making 30000 a year. add in a two year degree ive seen jobs in my field for 40-45000 starting out. sure there are stupid retards that waste their money on that school that arent smart enough to be there but that is not the schools fault or problem. itt is not only a school but a business with employees that need to get paid its not like high school and lower schools where the teachers get paid no matter how stupid the kids are. these people need to feed their families too and these stupid people that chose to go to itt there are just as many stupid people being raped by other colleges so quit being such crybabys it was your choice to attend and what you chose to make of it is your own business/fault. my teachers that i have at the canton michigan campus are wonderful honest and realistic they have not tried to steer us wrong and even told us how to approach it if we ever wanted to transfer to another school. there are other people in the school that i have caught in many lies but my electronics teachers so far have been great.

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itt student in Jackson, Michigan

47 months ago

steph in Birmingham, Alabama said: I am currently enrolled but about to withdraw. They talk a real sweet game but now that I'm trying to withdraw they are begging me. They know they will lose that money next quarter. But what I am worried over is that they will keep me enrolled afterwards just to draw that money. I have already heard about this. Plus did anyone think that those entrance exams were just a little bit weird? Trying to make it seem as though I were really brilliant when I know I only have a 9th grade level education. I went to school back in the 80's. Plus while I do agree that a couple of instructors are awesome the others are second rate. Guess who tried to help me. It was the program chair for networking. THe others just couldn't even begin to help. They acted like they didn't know what I was talking about. Needless to say I don't belong there. But if any of you wish to give it a try, be my guest. I hope your experience is better. I also hope you have a level of knowledge in your program of choice. It's going to take it.

wow i never had to take entrance exams

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itt student in Jackson, Michigan

47 months ago

MERRY JOY in Los Angeles, California said: FROM MERRY JOY: My son went to the ITT in San Bernardino, CA, and he took the computer technician classes for 2 years. He has looked and looked for a job in his field for 2 years. He got tired of waiting so he started his own business and fixes people's computers occasionally. He also works in warehouses now because that is all he can find in this recession we are in. He owes a whole lot of money in student loans. I was so excited when I encouraged him to sign up. Now this was just a huge dissapointment. Don't go to ITT tech! Every time I see their commercials, I get mad. I would like to hear true stories from other ITT grads to see if they had similar experiences like my son did. From Merry Joy. jjooyymama@msn.com.

i have not yet graduated yet and i am not in his field i took the computer and electronics engineering technology program. my millitary experience helps me alot when it comes to my job searches. its hard to find jobs nowadays plus the field he studied and the field i studied have alot of people competing for those jobs. i know a structural engineer who is now a manager at walmart because there were no jobs for him where he lived in arizona and he didnt go to itt tech. itt has alot of downsides im sure but as with alot of other colleges if the jobs arent there it doesnt matter where your degree is from. my cousin went to school to be a teacher and she hasnt been able to find work either. its definately hard out there and sometimes to find work you have to consider leaving the state i wont graduate til december but i post my resume online and i have been contacted by employers in other states wanting to interview me. just remember to that things will be extrememly hard for most people fresh out of college because we dont have the years of experience that some people on unemployment and such but tell your son to keep sending out his resume and if he feels like he could stand to learn more get book

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itt student in Jackson, Michigan

47 months ago

hoapres in San Mateo, California said: >> ... i already had training for in the army.<<

Maybe you would have been better off staying in the army

>> .... most schools or teachers dont care ... <<

Neither do employers.

>> itt has worked with me so i can obtain a degree in electrical engineering. <<

The diploma may be worthless in the eyes of prospective employers. In Silicon Valley almost NO ONE takes an ITT Tech grad seriously.

>> true the credits may not transfer but most regular colleges that im aware of allow you to test out of classes or gage where you would need to start in their program. <<

No they don't.

>> if your so stupid that you cant test out of a regular colleges' classes after acquiring a degree you had no business thinking you could attend college in the first place. <<

Doesn't work that way. The TOP 10 schools just won't let you test out of a class.

thats true employers dont care either but colleges wont pay your bills or daycare an employer pays you money so you can pay your bills and pay for daycare theres a difference plus you are paying a college for there service its only right they be able to accomadate you. all colleges are a big rip off anyway because most of the jobs people go to college for can be taught through on the job training without all the ridiculous extra classes any college requires you to take. maybe the top schools wont allow you to test out but i know of good colleges that i have went in and talked to here in michigan that will. ive also worked up a student survey and have called employers in michigan they have all been very interested in talking to me even though i informed them i was attending itt. the army is cutting back to plus theres alot of crap that goes along with being in the army. plus the army doesnt pay nearly as well as a civilian job could.

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stpn2me in Carlisle, Pennsylvania

47 months ago

"yes i have talked to actual employers who are willinng to start me off at 16/hr i turned down the job offer at this time because i am still attending school"

B/S. You sound gullible. Dont assume we are too. We are here to help people who are thinking about going to ITT. We are here to help people who think ITT is an actual University. If someone is willing to start you off at $16 an hour, TAKE IT. But then again, if your situation was real, you would have taken it already. So your line of thinking doesnt make sense.

"i have also had job offers for 20/hr and 22/hr but they are waiting for me to complete my schooling i give them regular updates as to my progress"

That's a whole lotta talking. Job offers, or just casual conversation? No one is TALKING or offering anything about jobs these days. Only Hiring or throwing away of resumes. Your talking sounds like what a 20-something would say, not someone who is out there in the job market. If someone OFFERS you a job, you better take it...

"i took the computer and electronics engineering technology program"

And what is that? "Engineering" Tech? What does that qualify you to do? And dont read me something out of the BS catalog. What does it actually qualify you to do? Is it actually giving you a "skill"? That's what trade schools like ITT tech are supposed to do. Give you a skill. Becoming a network admin is a skill. THINK.

"ive also worked up a student survey and have called employers in michigan they have all been very interested in talking to me even though i informed them i was attending itt."

I gotta call B*llsh*(( on this one. "Student survey"? What, are you just calling up people saying, "Hey, I go to ITT, you wanna give me a job?"

"plus the army doesnt pay nearly as well as a civilian job could."

Bull Hockey too. I am active Army with 20 years of service. That used to be true, but no longer. I used to be enlisted and their salaries compare well to the jobs you could get on the outside.

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itt student in Jackson, Michigan

47 months ago

sounds like your in need of a better education in life. i dont need to present my circumstances for anything i do or say im just gratful that as of right now im in a position to turn down jobs if i want to and i know that is not the case for most people. sure the military pays good for someone with that many years of service but an E-1 starts at 1100/mo E-2 1500 which is what i made the only reason i got more then that was because of bah. I understand about wanting to help people make the right decisions when choosing a school and i wouldnt want to waste anyones time or money i could get into any university or state college i want to but the colleges in my area dont offer the classes i want to take. getting the degree qualifies me to be an electronic technician which may not seem like much to some people but its what i like and what i enjoy doing. its a continuation on what i trained for in the army why that training go to waste. ITT is not for everybody but its not just for losers like you are trying to make it sound. if you want to put down the school fine but dont degrade the people that attend there. you are assuming you know everyones circumstances and wants and you dont. would i reccomend the school to my friends ...no but it was the right decision for me at the time. if you aim to educate then do that with out belittling and degrading the people who choose this route. 20 yrs in service you should be at the very least 1st sgt your trained to lead so do that in a respectable way.

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Itt Student in Chagrin Falls, Ohio

47 months ago

I'll tell you guys , i don't really agree with most of you but i agree with some of you. Yes its expensive. But if you come out of that school not learning anything whos fault is that. You can go to any school, Ohio State included and come out of it being a dummy. If you want to make your future better, its a decent school that will get you your bachelors in 3 years. If you put in the work , guess what, you will have no trouble getting a job. If your one of those dummies that don't go to class, hang out in the hallways, do the minimum, forget ever getting a job because your not going to learn anything. The school provides the opportunity for people to become educated. How you use that opportunity is up to you. If u went to the school and wasted all the money and cant get a job its because you were a dummy in the first place and didn't learn anything.

Bottom line the school does fine teaching, the curriculum is fine, and you can get a nice degree from them. If you don't want to learn then don't go to any school because any school you go to you can spend a lot of money, and waste a lot of time. You can go to any school and get straight A's and not find a job afterwords. Welcome to the real world. Anyone who talks badly about ITT is just insecure about themselves because they couldn't make it. If you try and want to make something of yourself, any school is good, because you will retain the knowledge and use the degree to back it up. Its all about you not the school. Bunch of dummies cant get jobs and blame it on everyone except themselves. Take your life into your own control, instead of saying ITT ruined it for you. IF YOU ARE SMART YOU GO TO COLLEGE TO GET THE PIECE OF PAPER THAT BACKS UP YOUR INTELLIGENCE. IF YOU ARE DUMB YOU WILL FAIL ANYWHERE YOU GO OR DON'T GO.

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Itt Student in Chagrin Falls, Ohio

47 months ago

i agree with the above post, a lot of people do come out of ITT with no real education and they don't know anything. i have people like that in my classes. But guess what i will definitely get the job over them. I am taking software development courses and am almost done with my bachelors. I already have a job making over 30k a year, u know why? because i know my stuff. i need a piece of paper to back it up in the long run. That's why I went to ITT. It has nothing to do with the school you go to , it has everything to do with YOU. If you have to, take the classes and learn everything on your own on the side. The point is if you put in the work it'll all work out, if you don't you have a degree that means nothing because you cant back it up. When you go to a job they don't just look at a degree, sometimes they ask you to pass a test or prove to them your knowledge. A lot of the time people from ITT fail these tests because they think its just the degree that gets them the job. Welcome to the real world, where people do stuff, and work hard to earn money. Anyone who things a degree will walk you into any company and make you money is a dummy. It's you that has the power and the knowledge.

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Itt Student in Chagrin Falls, Ohio

47 months ago

no sh*t bro,i make like 35k which isn't a lot of money. Its fine for now but not forever. I'd like to finish this degree and start my own company. I know where my life is going unlike most of the people on this thread. I've been dealing with computers since i was 6. I was just letting people know that this place isn't a total waste. If your looking for an easy ride, yes your making a mistake. You'll spend a lot of money and go nowhere. If you have any brains you can go to ITT and use the degree to boost your future.

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itt_instructor in Dallas, Texas

47 months ago

Itt Student in Chagrin Falls, Ohio said: Your wrong, employers do not judge a school by the worst graduate. They don't even know the worst graduate. They know they graduates that they have seen or spoken too. They know people that apply for the jobs they are offering. In the real world a degree is just a piece of paper that says you have completed school. You still have to learn something in order to use the degree. Have you ever been to an interview???? They have these things called interviews so that an employer can meet an employee before hand, and so they can see what they are dealing with. I know people who are smarter than you and I both with no degree whatsoever, and i know you agree. On another note, i learned Office in like 5th grade...... who cares where or when you learned it. I'm a software developer for a company that makes over 30 million a year. This whole topic has everything to do with people passing the blame to ITT for their own problems. Stop being a dumb*** and your whole life will become a lot better. Put effort into your education and your life and you will see results. If you want to do the minimum you will have a minimal life. If you work hard and follow the path you need to, you will end up where you want to go. nobody cares what school you went to. ITT is fine if your not dumb and you need that little piece of paper that will increase how much money you make.

No, it's not fine, but keep those dreams alive.

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Itt Student

47 months ago

You are an insult to instructors. Why didn't you do anything about the teaching where you worked? why didn't you try harder to give the students a better education. You sat back and watched students go through there and learn nothing while you accepted a paycheck. whatever you say means nothing. You stole from those students even worse than the school did.

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Itt Student

47 months ago

Of course employers often judge one by the worse graduate. A UC Berkeley grad gets an interview but an ITT Tech grad probably won't.

totally wrong. In these rough times companies aren't looking to hire the most expensive degree they can buy. They are definitely looking to hire people who know what they are doing and pay them less. If your uc boy should make 100 they will hire me for 80 no problem if i know just as much. where do you get your information??

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Itt Student

47 months ago

hoapres at least you kind of understand it. what you don't get is that they are a business. the commented i just posted them shows that they aren't lying about what they are doing. They don't force anyone to sign the credit papers. People should be responsible for themselves when making a 50k decision. You don't just sign papers without reading them. Camon.

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Itt Student

47 months ago

hoapres in San Mateo, California said: The worth of an ITT education is the VALUE that potential employers put on the diploma.

If your long range goal is to start your own business then go take some basic accounting and finance courses at the local community college.

that wont make you any money. Get with the times. With the information you learn here in the SDT program at least, you could start an internet company and make a lot of money. You can design websites and work for yourself. You can freelance programming. There are a large number of things you can do with what you learn here. People who post here and didn't learn the info or don't know how to use it to benefit them has nothing to do with the education they provide at ITT.

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Itt Student

47 months ago

hoapres in San Mateo, California said: I don't but others do.

It is not my business as a taxpayer to support your business with government guaranteed student loans. Treat education like any other business requiring the business to take the financing risks along with student loan dischrages in bankruptcy should you can't find a job. That won't happen but if it ever does then the whole educational industry is in for a real shock.

Big mistake. What provides futures for people in our country. Working for someone???? no chance. People starting businesses is what makes an economy strong. it creates jobs. It brings money to the cities and the states. Working for someone is how some people choose to live their whole lives because they can get by. Promoting starting your own business is a great thing. I want my taxpayer money to go to more development of our economy than just running it the way it is. cuz it sux

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Itt Student

47 months ago

hoapres in San Mateo, California said: Maybe one had to put food on the table. Fortunately, I have never been so poor that I had to make those difficult moral choices but LOTS of ITT Instructors are just trying to survive and one paycheck away from going homeless like LOTS of other Americans.

ITT Tech pays instructors a flat $1500 for a course which works out to an hourly rate of $10 an hour.

that is wrong. I know how much instructors at ITT get paid. I go here and i've talked to them about it. 100 dollars a class. 100 bux divided by 4 hour class = 25 bux an hour. i know rates may differ at different schools, but this is what i know to be true.

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Daniel in Bellingham, Washington

47 months ago

While I attend ITT, there is truth and lies here. There is only one person that makes a good student, and that is yourself. You can go to a library, or you can learn on the internet. You can ask questions, but it is always about "you" doing it.
I have complained with them and we worked things out. I also see other people complain, but with an attitude that they want things handed on a platter.

I have had bad instructors too, but I opened my books and literally studied them.
People should ask themselves why credits are not transferred to other schools. It is very likely that this is because they are afraid for their graduation statistics. In short it is just plain money shaking business.

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Daniel in Bellingham, Washington

47 months ago

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

No... no silver platter there. You still need to it yourself.

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cep991 in richmond, Virginia

46 months ago

Hi, i'm currently going to ITT in Midlothian, VA for their visual communications degree and i have to say its not a very good program to be in. on top of everything that has been said on this thread about tuition and credits i have more to add and would apprciate any responses.

when i went to talk to a recruiter @ ITT i made it specifaclly clear that i want to go into video game design and that i wanted a BS. well they said they had a program specifally for that but i would have to sign up for the associates first before i could get into the Bachelors game design program. well half way through my associates they got rid of their BS program which is going to leave me with a AS with credits that don't transfer. was just wondering if anybody else has gone through the same situtaion? what did you do? i'm putting together a case to i can potentially sue ITT so anyones stories would be greatly apprecaited

any info would be apprciated email me @ c_pinnix@yahoo.com

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stpn2me in Carlisle, Pennsylvania

46 months ago

CEp991,

Cut your losses and go get a Computer Science degree in programming. Any language will suffice. Almost any school has a CS degree and you shouldnt have a problem. Find out which lanquages are used the most in Game programming and design. Focus on those. You dont need an institute to fast track you and set you up for failure that way. Learn as much as you can about one or two particular lanquages that are in high demand and you should be fine.

I am very interested to hear from those who have graduated from ITT with a "degree" in game design. What did you learn and what did they teach?

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cep991 in richmond, Virginia

46 months ago

Stpm2me,no duh, i should have cut my losses but when your already half way through a degree even if its "worthless", it still looks better to finish than not finishing. i know they taught me some 3d modeling and flash, as well as website development as far as the bachelors goes, beats me probably more of the same. and if your thinking about going to ITT for anything i would strongly consider going to community college getting an associates there and then transferring to a 4 year university that is regionally accredited

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Joseph in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

46 months ago

Sarah Lindow in Duluth, Minnesota said: All colleges are a scam these days. It's not jut ITT Tech, it's 4 year universities too. I graduated from a great school, with a great degree, and I can't find work. All of college is a hoax these days. There's even a forum out there for it now www.thegreatcollegehoax.com

well it depend what degree you went with, if you went with a libral arts degree, organizational leadership, theology, psychology, philosofy, music, theatre, yes you will have hard times finding job or one job at all. a lot o people nowadays try to stay away from the "real degrees" those which actually are needed in todays market, because of the math, physics, and chemistry involved in them. in my school we have oil and gas companies, telecomm, engineering firms visit us all the time, and they cant wait to hire us or give us an intership, but i believe is because we are studying real-life applications. now if you are in a liberal arts school, you will get no body to hire you! so my message is: people stop wasting your time and money in something that you may consider "your passion" because it is not gonna be your passion anymore when the bills are due and you dont have a job! i've played piano since age 10, always though i would be a famous piano concertista, now i am going to school to be an Electrical Engineer.

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Habanero

46 months ago

You all who have questions can go online and type on google ITT Tech articulation agreement and there is a list that is going to show up of colleges and universities that may accept ITT tech credits. They may be a little pricey but they gonna take ur credits.

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itt_instructor in Dallas, Texas

46 months ago

To Riley,

You’re very welcome! I don’t know exactly how trying to get into a prestigious university will fare; however, I can tell you that the degree, if regionally accredited, satisfies the ‘block check’ that is sometimes needed.

Example: My BS and MS are from regionally accredited, traditional universities (they are not for-profit universities). I was looking at Doctorate programs a while back and found that if I were going to pursue the degree at a for-profit (UoP, Capella, etc) my chances of getting in are almost certain. On the other hand, the traditional universities are very selective and you have to compete for a seat in their programs.

The reason I brought it up is I found more than one school, rated in the top 20, which have, on their faculty, full professors (carrying Doctorate degrees) from Capella University. While some may balk at the for-profit degree, it seems they do satisfy requirements in some organizations.

No, I am not going to do a doctorate at a for-profit but that’s a personal choice. I am sure there are some very capable people who have went that route; it’s just not for me.

Also, when you apply at most universities, you are going to be required to submit all of your transcripts. So make the most of your bachelor as well as master program. Also look at the school’s program accreditation (business, engineering, information assurance, etc) as not all programs are created equal.

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Scott Tudehope in Etiwanda, California

46 months ago

My advice is to try for a UC and maybe even consider the online degree program. UOP is an option as well, as I understand that you are in Stockton. I have been on the campus at UOP and while it's anything but cheap, they are a good college. Yep, go with University of Pacific.

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lol in Oakdale, California

46 months ago

I have 3 family members that went to itt tech for IT and got a 2 year degree and were able to find work without any problems. The economy is bad so most people regardless of college cannot find work. I'm not "paid" by the school but i'm not going to spend 4 years at a community college like most other people just to get a 2 year piece of paper. I went to community college and the first day I was writing poetry, the first day at itt-tech i was converting binary and hexadecimal. If you ask me the community colleges are more babysitters and use middle school or high school teachers. My teachers at itt are doing very well and have multiple degrees (not from itt-tech) and have been pretty successful. The 3 other people I know that went to the school are working in the bay area and making good money. Of course you're going to start with an entry level job unless you have experience in the field, as with ANY degree. If you were smart you would have taken internships while going to school so you would be out with experience in the industry and wouldn't have to do the whole entry level thing.

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lol in Oakdale, California

46 months ago

Also you should know before enrolling the credits do not transfer, if you plan on transferring do not go to itt-tech. They told me about 3 times before i signed any paperwork that the credits do not transfer, they wanted to make sure I understood that.

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tech_2012 in Wichita, Kansas

45 months ago

Obviously those that are saying nothing but negative things about ITT Tech haven't been to the Wichita campus. Not only do the instructors care about the students, but my current instructor for ET355 and ET315 is teaching materials not covered in the textbooks because the technology we discuss has not even hit the market yet. The concept of "4G" versus true 4G is one example. By the way, not a single person from the college or from the corporate office approached me to say something positive about the college, so get that out your head right now. The education I have received has been invaluable in a way that you pessimistic people will never understand. The difference between the Wichita campus and the rest of the ITT Tech colleges across the country is the fact that we have a final project to complete to prove that we actually learned something. No other ITT Tech campus does that. And another thing, people drop out because they give up. Some fall behind because they cannot comprehend as quickly as others. How is that a crime? Don't blame the college for something that isn't their fault. For those that are in Career Services, I can't speak for every campus because I've not been to every campus. But I can speak for Wichita. Our new Career Services Director has spent countless hours meeting with countless businesses and informing them that we have students close to graduation that have the ability to fulfill the requirements of different positions they offer. In fact, we just had a Slumberger job fair last week, and six of the ET/IT students are flying out to meet with different employers and everything is paid for by Slumberger's company (travel, hotel, etc.). Back to the instructors though. The instructors apply real-life situations to the materials we learn. Us students are not stupid. Think about the stupidity coming out of your mouth before you open it. I'm fixing to graduate in September and I'm very happy with my education.

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Chris in Minneapolis, Minnesota

45 months ago

tech_2012 in Wichita, Kansas said: Obviously those that are saying nothing but negative things about ITT Tech haven't been to the Wichita campus. Not only do the instructors care about the students, but my current instructor for ET355 and ET315 is teaching materials not covered in the textbooks because the technology we discuss has not even hit the market yet. The concept of "4G" versus true 4G is one example. By the way, not a single person from the college or from the corporate office approached me to say something positive about the college, so get that out your head right now. The education I have received has been invaluable in a way that you pessimistic people will never understand. The difference between the Wichita campus and the rest of the ITT Tech colleges across the country is the fact that we have a final project to complete to prove that we actually learned something. No other ITT Tech campus does that. And another thing, people drop out because they give up. Some fall behind because they cannot comprehend as quickly as others. How is that a crime? Don't blame the college for something that isn't their fault. For those that are in Career Services, I can't speak for every campus because I've not been to every campus. But I can speak for Wichita. Our new Career Services Director has spent countless hours meeting with countless businesses and informing them that we have students close to graduation that have the ability to fulfill the requirements of different positions they offer. In fact, we just had a Slumberger job fair last week, and six of the ET/IT students are flying out to meet with different employers and everything is paid for by Slumberger's company (travel, hotel, etc.). Back to the instructors though. The instructors apply real-life situations to the materials we learn. Us students are not stupid. Think about the stupidity coming out of your mouth before you open it. I'm fixing to graduate in September and I'm very happy with my educa

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tech_2012 in Wichita, Kansas

45 months ago

I challenge every person on this forum to make a trip to the Wichita campus and then try to continue saying that ITT is a scam when in fact it isn't. In fact, I too hold an A average and I have one more quarter left. The only chaotic atmosphere you experience is the ignorance of other students that just want the degree without doing anything and/or instructors that probably aren't certified in the field they're teaching. That's one reason a former classmate of mine left National American University, also in Wichita. I have no problem with any of the cirriculum because I enjoy what I do. My ET355 instructor went through a couple of our textbooks and found mistakes in them, yes, and is even teaching stuff not in our textbooks because then we will be able to utilize the technology behind it and will be some of the few with the ability of troubleshooting and fixing problems with whatever it may be. The reason why the ET345 and ET355 classes explain technology that has been around since WWII is because our system of communicating has worked for us. There's no need to change the system if it already works. Japan and Europe have their own systems because they got taken out in WWII and had to restart building their communications systems. Their systems may be somewhat faster than ours, but there's also no way we could change our system in the U.S., especially now with all of the wireless devices in the country. It's just not going to happen. That information came directly from my instructor because I questioned him about the reason for the old technology here. So instead of changing the speed at which we communicate with the rest of the world, we incorporate multiple-bands into cell phones for those that travel overseas.

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tech_2012 in Wichita, Kansas

45 months ago

The point I'm trying to make is that we do learn, and we learn in an environment controlled by the instructors. It's a shame that a lot of people feel they got scammed by ITT Tech, because you have to be willing to learn the materials and not give up because you think it's a waste of time or you have already learned something a class covers. Why would you enroll at a school if you've already learned materials covered in the classes? The answer is simple: people don't do research on classes offered to see if it's something new. Each class offered at ITT Tech is described on the website. If you can't be smart enough to do even that, you have no business enrolling at the college and then turn around saying that you got scammed. It's your own fault for not researching the college you plan to attend. I made that mistake when I wanted to attend a college in Iowa. Little did I know, there was no program for what I wanted to do, so I dropped out a couple weeks into my second semester there. I wouldn't know what I know about electronics if I had not enrolled at my campus. I'm not promoting or advertising or anything, I'm just sharing my experience. There ARE good campuses out there, but people like to focus more on the negative about certain things than the positive. It's no wonder some people on here are so negative, because it's easy to knock something when you don't understand or don't care. It's also easy to be negative if the information you spread isn't true. Just a thought to some of you people.

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ccla_in_afghanistan in Baton Rouge, Louisiana

45 months ago

I would like to add some comments here. I know a lot of people think ITT is a Scam and is worthless but I really beg to differ. I was one of the older people in my classes and while sometimes I thought some of the younger students could have really grown up a bit I had a positive experience. I have a AS in computer network systems and that coupled with a few IT certifications really opened up a lot of doors for me. I learned a lot doing the labs in class and found that they transferred to real world experiences. Sometimes the labs would be missing a step...ok, sometimes in life directions will be missing a step as well. Welcome to IT, troubleshoot it. You get out of your time at ITT what you put into it. I've seen people complain that the labs were all in the virtual environment. Welcome to 2012, I work for a company who handles IT for the military and all the servers are virtualized now. Lots of companies want people with virtualization experience now too.

And for those who say your degree is "worthless"

I'm making $150,000.00 + as a System Admin in Afghanistan with my ITT degree. Tell me 150K is worthless

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ccla_in_afghanistan in Baton Rouge, Louisiana

45 months ago

I work for Exelis. I am attached to a signal company here in Afghan. Not going to get into specifics for obvious reasons (Opsec) but 35 bucks an hour @ 60 hours with a 70% uplift for the first 40 per week. with a 16,000.00 completion bonus, 2k signing bonus and 3600 in vacation $

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Anonymous in Chester, Massachusetts

45 months ago

Again it depends on your campus.

5 years admin experience + A.S. in computer networking.

Landed a job as a Systems Engineer $75,000/year.

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stpn2me in Carlisle, Pennsylvania

45 months ago

You are correct, guest in San Fran...

The entry level jobs in IT are crazy competitive. As I have said before, alot of the helpdesk personnel in my IT shop are not young, bright eyed and bushy-tailed ITT grads. It's populated by old farts with B.S. degrees in CS from good schools. Everyone and their grandmother wants to be a basic level Administrator, which is what this school teaches (or tries to) teach it's students. I know the people in the TV ads look like you, talk like you and look like they could be you. But NO ONE who does not have a background (i.e experience) in IT or a certification is going to walk into a Systems or Network Admin job with a AA or BS from ITT. It's not going to happen. For one, you wont be talking the IT lingo and you wont "look" like an IT professional. You will still look like the stagnant life losers those actors look like in the commercials. My advice is to get a CCIE or CCNA or an MCSE type certification. Or better yet, get a certification in SharePoint Development. Programming. That's where it's at now. I'm a SharePoint developer and I get so many job offers, they go to my spam folder. It's a better use of your money and time and there is actually a market for the job. Do go where the herd is going. Saturation of a job field is not your friend...

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nicknacktech in Glendora, California

45 months ago

CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHERE WOULD BE ONE OF THE BEST PLACES TO GO FOR COLLEGE IN SOCALIFORNIA FOR COMPUTER ENGINEERING SORRRY FOR THE CAPS ..i just recently decided this is one of which i want to do as a serious career along as a computer engineer or maybe software engineering so many of you are talking really bad on itt tech and devry i want to make sure i go to a good round school can any one lead me in the right direction and pls no help from people that dont know what there talking about such as very young teen n those who dont have the job maybe if you know someone personal or yeah ...sorry to be rude but yeah

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bradtom in Mansfield, Massachusetts

45 months ago

Wow, this discussion is a comedy or tragedy depending on how you look at it

I will tell you one thing fro sure like all others, the commercials on TV are a joke. I am Senior Engineer in finance world for a top tier Mutual fund company making over 6 figures plus bonus. and it took years to get where I am. I have two degress Mech/Electronics. As well as a skill set for UNIX/NAS/Clustering/Windows Systems. you definitely will not be making anywhere close to this in this market.

One thing I really wish some post would do if you are going to try and pretend to be something leran the lingo...I had to laugh at the guy who said he tested for the navy on satelites...hmmm...of course the FBI and secret service just said sure go ahead...
In reality my son is going to Providence College this year , for 50k with 30 in scholarships (yes he worked his ass to get there), He will get three degrees in 5 years including an MBA under new program and off to law school. There is no way in hell that ITT can even compare the contacts or the reputation he will receive when he finishes. Shame on the sales people for selling this crap. It is such a shame you guys did not have someone to watch over so this should not happen.

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runfastfromITT in Rainbow City, Alabama

45 months ago

I challenge any ITT grad to name one single person with good attendance (and able to pay tuition) who flunked out. Someone who was forced out strictly for academic shortcomings.

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mr.loud in Fort Lauderdale, Florida

45 months ago

Hey everyone,
I went to ITT some time ago. It did not cost an arm and a leg, (around $22K) at the time. I was able to transfer the credits to a real private university, (not an online school of some sort).

IMO it was worth it at the time, however if the school is $50K or more for an Associate of Science, to me that is very expensive. Also their Bachelor's degrees may not be the same as Bachelors from a regular university.

School is what you make of it (again IMO). I did see they have a CAD drafting program and that isn't always available at community colleges. So that's pretty cool!

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Habanero in Killeen, Texas

44 months ago

I wonder what private university you said you could transfer your credits???

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