KBR Salaries, Bonuses and Benefits.

And to follow up on JHT post those of you going over that have not yet had to fill in sp85F may want to gather info needed because it seems as if eventually you will have to fill one in. And it is a lot harder to get the info needed gathered after you are already over there. For some it’s pretty easy document to fill in–if you have never traveled and you have lived and work in the same place for the last 7 yrs or so. But it can be a pain in the you know what for a lot of the trades men who have traveled for their work. Your mailing address “back home” isn’t necessarily considered your address if your head didn’t rest there at night. ( I think specifically if you stay as in work somewhere for 30 days or more–while you were say away on a job–they want these addresses too–so yes your addresses overseas will be required--cause that's where your head rested) Best of luck to everyone.

carrigon in Dover said: Orabella - any update on the new bundle of joy? is next week still the target?!?!

Any day now, doc said yesterday baby is a big one, so he urged mama to be to be as active as possible.

Orabella in Florida said: They get very nosy on the sf85p, that is true--but you just need to be honest. It a public trust--& It will certainly weed some people out as others posted have suggested above--but this is more so related to criminal background and drug/ mental background issues.

To somewhat quote a security site erick, if they need you they will generally hire you.

And beleive this is the "new paperwork" as in more paperwork that's been mentioned and warned about. There are different drafts of it--but it is basically 18-23 pages in length ( if you are a natural born citizen a chunk of it ( questions) will not apply to you). ( anyone interested you can find sample example online of) ( the version hubby filled in I noted had requests for alot of the same info KBR ask for initially--just on different documents)

Basically it goes back 7 yrs. It not only wants to know where you lived and worked it asks for contacts that knew you while you lived or worked there. And they do follow up on all this info. They want names and contacts, they want mths and yrs and they do not want any gaps. Best of luck.

glad I am here to try and figure out Pauls because he can't remember nothing like that especially months when it happened

Pablo W in North Salt Lake, Utah said: What are the average starting salaries, bonuses, benefits and travel requirements like at KBR?
I've been told me and my wife can get jobs doing dishes or cooking and get $100,000/yr. in Afghanistan. Is this accurate?
If anyone has been there and can verify or discredit this info please let me know!
Would me and my wife be able to sleep at the same place?

Its not quite that easy--I mean they are looking for people with experience--so if you were looking for a like a kitchen positon you would have to have experience/ background in. I think they want at least 5 yrs. As far as dishes--washing of a lot of these positions are filled by TCNs. Also it very rare for like husband and wife teams to get together--in fact woman and men living quarters are separated.

Pablo W in North Salt Lake, Utah said: What are the average starting salaries, bonuses, benefits and travel requirements like at KBR?
I've been told me and my wife can get jobs doing dishes or cooking and get $100,000/yr. in Afghanistan. Is this accurate?
If anyone has been there and can verify or discredit this info please let me know!
Would me and my wife be able to sleep at the same place?

Not quite as easy as you are making it sound.My husband drives a bus and doesnt make that much. Have you 2 applied?

monita in Lexington, South Carolina said: glad I am here to try and figure out Pauls because he can't remember nothing like that especially months when it happened

I know Monita. That's the horror of it!!! Having to remember all those details. I feel really bad for the tradesmen that have traveled for their work a lot.

Pablo W in North Salt Lake, Utah said: What are the average starting salaries, bonuses, benefits and travel requirements like at KBR?
I've been told me and my wife can get jobs doing dishes or cooking and get $100,000/yr. in Afghanistan. Is this accurate?
If anyone has been there and can verify or discredit this info please let me know!
Would me and my wife be able to sleep at the same place?

No. Not 100,000. 84,000 is the standard for a cook. She does not have to do the dishes either, that's normally done by third country nationals. She just has to prepair the meals. But, things are winding down. Back in the day you could submit your resume to KBR and get a call back the next day. Nowadays it can be quite hard.

monita in Lexington, South Carolina said: Not quite as easy as you are making it sound.My husband drives a bus and doesnt make that much. Have you 2 applied?

No, we haven't applied yet. I am first trying to check out what the reality really is regarding salary, time we will be required to stay over there, and whether we will be able to stay together or see each other daily, weekly, monthly, or what.
What does your husband make for driving a bus? Is his experience over there regarding work and the conditions what he thought they would be before he went?

Cam A in Baghdad (VBC), Iraq said: No. Not 100,000. 84,000 is the standard for a cook. She does not have to do the dishes either, that's normally done by third country nationals. She just has to prepair the meals. But, things are winding down. Back in the day you could submit your resume to KBR and get a call back the next day. Nowadays it can be quite hard.

What is your position and salary where your at?
What is your experience with being over in Iraq?
What is different than you expected before you went?
Is KBR doing hiring for future work in Afghanistan or now is being done by Fluor and DynCorp?

Cam A in Baghdad (VBC), Iraq said: No. Not 100,000. 84,000 is the standard for a cook. She does not have to do the dishes either, that's normally done by third country nationals. She just has to prepair the meals. But, things are winding down. Back in the day you could submit your resume to KBR and get a call back the next day. Nowadays it can be quite hard.

Hi Cam,

Do you know the salary i should expect for a plumbing foreman position? I may have job through Dyncorp but thought pay would be higher

Pablo W in North Salt Lake, Utah said: No, we haven't applied yet. I am first trying to check out what the reality really is regarding salary, time we will be required to stay over there, and whether we will be able to stay together or see each other daily, weekly, monthly, or what.
What does your husband make for driving a bus? Is his experience over there regarding work and the conditions what he thought they would be before he went?[/QUOTe

It's very hard to say what a yearly salary will be because there so many contributing factors.They give you a monthly base pay and it goes up from there. My husband s base pay is 2700 per month.

Pablo W in North Salt Lake, Utah said: What is your position and salary where your at?
What is your experience with being over in Iraq?
What is different than you expected before you went?
Is KBR doing hiring for future work in Afghanistan or now is being done by Fluor and DynCorp?

Can I ask you how many pages of this forum have you read back?

1st I’m in Iraq and my position is a Sr. SCA and my salary wouldn’t be helpful to you as you are not looking to work in the same field as me. You are looking to work in food service if I read you post correctly. If so the starting point there is anywhere from $2,150.00 to $2,583.00 in base pay, basically if you’re coming in at the bottom of food service then you will be able to max out at about $84,000 like was stated before. The days of massive over time are long gone. You may be able to move up once you get over in theater but I wouldn’t count on it as we are in sustainment now and will be in draw down very soon. In Afghanistan if you take a job with KBR then you have a very good chance of being picked up with either Fluor or Dynacorp once the transition is over.

2nd I’ve worked in theater for over 5 years.

3rd nothing was all that different from what I expected this is a war zone and when I got here we lived in tents and had out houses and old water bottles for restrooms and bathed in bottled water and with baby wipes while eating MREs for a lot of our meals. Now my hooch is nicer than my college dorm room and my furniture is nicer than my first bachelor pad (the old 2X6 and cinder blocks for bed frame, entertainment center and cloths storage. With an old electrical spool for a table GOD those were the days LOL). If you go to Afghanistan it is fairly sparse there if you go Iraq then living conditions are better.

4th a for future hiring, KBR is going to keep hiring people to fill openings and use people from bases as they close to fill openings, you may get a job with KBR and be told you’re going to Afghanistan and end up in Iraq on a base that is scheduled to close 2 months after you land. Then when it closes KBR may have no need for anyone in your job field at the moment and you will be sent home. I’m not saying this will happen but it is possible so think long and hard before you pull the trigger on coming over here.

I hope this helped

That why I say read read read . I read this forum for days before I ever asked the first question, I found out almost all I needed to know

JHT in San Antonio, Texas said: 1st I’m in Iraq and my position is a Sr. SCA and my salary wouldn’t be helpful to you as you are not looking to work in the same field as me. You are looking to work in food service if I read you post correctly. If so the starting point there is anywhere from $2,150.00 to $2,583.00 in base pay, basically if you’re coming in at the bottom of food service then you will be able to max out at about $84,000 like was stated before. The days of massive over time are long gone. You may be able to move up once you get over in theater but I wouldn’t count on it as we are in sustainment now and will be in draw down very soon. In Afghanistan if you take a job with KBR then you have a very good chance of being picked up with either Fluor or Dynacorp once the transition is over.

2nd I’ve worked in theater for over 5 years.

3rd nothing was all that different from what I expected this is a war zone and when I got here we lived in tents and had out houses and old water bottles for restrooms and bathed in bottled water and with baby wipes while eating MREs for a lot of our meals. Now my hooch is nicer than my college dorm room and my furniture is nicer than my first bachelor pad (the old 2X6 and cinder blocks for bed frame, entertainment center and cloths storage. With an old electrical spool for a table GOD those were the days LOL). If you go to Afghanistan it is fairly sparse there if you go Iraq then living conditions are better.

4th a for future hiring, KBR is going to keep hiring people to fill openings and use people from bases as they close to fill openings, you may get a job with KBR and be told you’re going to Afghanistan and end up in Iraq on a base that is scheduled to close 2 months after you land. Then when it closes KBR may have no need for anyone in your job field at the moment and you will be
Yes, it did help.
Thanks JHT

so if a base you are working on closes and there is no work for you they send you home or to another base?

Pablo, I think most working over there are maybe first motivated by the money, but I also get a sense most also like the work they do–though they may not always agree with the management etc. As others stated it is not always easy times–and unlike any camping trip you might imagine. This is why they like but do not require military background. Right now too a lot of the companies hiring since there is a transition going on–other companies coming in are also looking for those already with logcap and oversea experience. Now that’s not saying that someone with no military experience or former logcap/ oversea work experience can not get a foot in the door, but you got to be patient and you got to keep beating on the doors. Our son is 22 and in his second yr of schooling as an electrical apprentice and he wanting to go over there one day. He’s only got about 4 yrs trade experience at this point so his father and I are couching him to finish his training and continue his work here. Sadly he will more than likely get the opportunity in 2 or 3 yrs to do it then.

But as others have mentioned not everyone is cut out for that kind of work. There are hardships and separation involved –I think if both of you and your wife are interesting in this kind of work then the first thing you need to be prepared for is not being able to see each other but every 3 up to 6 mths and then for only 10-14 days at a time. ( and this is hard on most relationships–but if you are in for the good of your family and the future of it can be done–and is being done and dealt with) Others will tell you too it not really a career but a job–though on occasion you will run into a few who have seemed to have actually made a career out of it.

There are perks too. Tax free dollars. And generally an income that will allow for you to travel when you do have RR to see what you want to see and do what you want to do–and if you are wise with your money allow for you to save and invest wisely for yo

and invest wisely for you and your family’s future.

Best of luck

Orabella in Florida said: Its not quite that easy--I mean they are looking for people with experience--so if you were looking for a like a kitchen positon you would have to have experience/ background in. I think they want at least 5 yrs. As far as dishes--washing of a lot of these positions are filled by TCNs. Also it very rare for like husband and wife teams to get together--in fact woman and men living quarters are separated.

at balad they have married hooches and so do other camps.

jwturner said: so if a base you are working on closes and there is no work for you they send you home or to another base?

a lot of the other companies are picking up workers that are already there.

dmure in Glasgow, United Kingdom said: Hi Cam,

Do you know the salary i should expect for a plumbing foreman position? I may have job through Dyncorp but thought pay would be higher

KBR pays plumber formen 2583 base its low end job just like labor foreman and equipment operators

IN case anyone cares this time next week ill be in Kuwait :) unless the big sand storm that looks like will happen on the 8th/9th is still hanging around then im screwed

So...my dad made it back to Bagram to work some more...he said he went to Chili's in Dubai!!! I didn't know they had a Chili's? Or is that OPSEC!?!?!? Shhhhhh....

Oh yeah, my brother is supposed to go to Houston Aug 16 for a cook now, instead of Aug 30. Supposed to work in Afg. God has blessed my family!

Gabriele in Troy, Montana said: Outside the wire??? Ummmm NO

Nothing wrong with going outside the wire........its a lot better now than it was in spring of 2004 when I started

Mixer Mike 2 in Tallil, Iraq said: So...my dad made it back to Bagram to work some more...he said he went to Chili's in Dubai!!! I didn't know they had a Chili's? Or is that OPSEC!?!?!? Shhhhhh....

LOL Glad he made it back. And yes your family has been blessed.

mister dinar in Spartanburg, South Carolina said: Nothing wrong with going outside the wire........its a lot better now than it was in spring of 2004 when I started

she was just teasing me. My husband was supposed to go as a truck driver but they ran out of jobs :) so he went as a bus driver. I was saying I should go and join him but now they arent hiring bus drivers:) So... I was telling Gabi maybe I could get in a truck. Can't do it anyway I don't have hazmat or tanker :)Hope youre having a great one

They got 43 truck driver jobs on there today!

I live in FL, and I got my HazMat 1 week in the mail after taking the test...just costs a little $...

Mixer Mike 2 in Tallil, Iraq said: I live in FL, and I got my HazMat 1 week in the mail after taking the test...just costs a little $...

yeah I know, we moved from Orlando last year. Should have gotten mine when My husband got his last time.Was pulling dump trailers didn't think the bottom was going to fall out so soon. Needless to say when Rinker sold out we all lost our butt

monita in Lexington, South Carolina said: yeah I know, we moved from Orlando last year. Should have gotten mine when My husband got his last time.Was pulling dump trailers didn't think the bottom was going to fall out so soon. Needless to say when Rinker sold out we all lost our butt

I know what you mean, Cemex bought Rinker, then I GOT LAID OFF!!! Seems they kept alot of Rinker management though...

tstorm in Plan said: at balad they have married hooches and so do other camps.

Are there a lot of them over there T--as far as married couple and I think he was wondering at the odds of getting hire for--as a couple and being at the same camp?

monita in Lexington, South Carolina said: They got 43 truck driver jobs on there today!

Wow!

MrsL in Florida said: brother in law got a call from Dyncorp wanted him by aug8 but would not give an extention on the date no way he could get physical, dental and a passport by then. too bad it was a great job great pay.

He needs to have all that done and ready before he starts getting job offers..He should get it going now....

tstorm in Plan said: IN case anyone cares this time next week ill be in Kuwait :) unless the big sand storm that looks like will happen on the 8th/9th is still hanging around then im screwed

Bet your wife and you are getting excited! My hubby put in his r&r request last Monday (over a week ago) and hasn't gotten it back approved yet. I can't wait to make the reservation and start the big countdown!!

Melinda Pearson in Woodstock, Georgia said: He needs to have all that done and ready before he starts getting job offers..He should get it going now....

Melinda - what did your hubby decide to do? is he still home or did he go to work for fluor/dyn?

monita in Lexington, South Carolina said: Still haven't figured out why they say they don't want KBR everyone that is going to be working for the "new" companies is coming from KBR. LOL They don't like the way they do business but yet the same people are running everything.

It won't exactly be the same people. Many of the Upper Management will not be given positions with either Fluor or Dyn. The general workers - Middle Management and down will more than likely be given positions. These are the real working force and they have a good reputation. So these guys are considered an asset. The Upper Management group that made the "Decisions" and who they hold responsible for the screw ups will not be wanted within the new set up....

Orabella in Florida said: Its not quite that easy--I mean they are looking for people with experience--so if you were looking for a like a kitchen positon you would have to have experience/ background in. I think they want at least 5 yrs. As far as dishes--washing of a lot of these positions are filled by TCNs. Also it very rare for like husband and wife teams to get together--in fact woman and men living quarters are separated.

Mu husband said there were more than a few Husband/Wife that shared living quaters at both camps he was at.

Melinda Pearson in Woodstock, Georgia said: It won't exactly be the same people. Many of the Upper Management will not be given positions with either Fluor or Dyn. The general workers - Middle Management and down will more than likely be given positions. These are the real working force and they have a good reputation. So these guys are considered an asset. The Upper Management group that made the "Decisions" and who they hold responsible for the screw ups will not be wanted within the new set up....

Hello you guys , I am scheduled to go to virginia , I just received a job offer from Dyncorp, Do anyone know if Dyncorp is a good company to work for?

What do they expect of you when doing the background check and Security Clearance?

MrsL in Florida said: Is this Jimmy Fawcett at Dyncrp a recruiter

yes, he has never returned any of my voicemail.

dmure in Glasgow, United Kingdom said: Hi Cam,

Do you know the salary i should expect for a plumbing foreman position? I may have job through Dyncorp but thought pay would be higher

Those thoughts run through all now applying. All companies are low balling.

carrigon in Dover said: Melinda - what did your hubby decide to do? is he still home or did he go to work for fluor/dyn?

He is home working. He loves what he is doing and is making great money. He is making the same at home as he was as an HVAC Foreman at 116 hours per week. So I feel blessed that he can earn the same money and be at home. Fluor and Dyn both gave him offers based on future needs. When it came down to choosing we chose for him to stay home as long as things continue to work out. He is open to going back if things change. I really feel for the guys out there that are being sent home and have no jobs to return to.

I was just curious if anyone could answer my questions about Dyncorp?

Patrick Hoag in Florida said: yes, he has never returned any of my voicemail.

so maybe he is not a good one either. thankyou anyway for your help

Melinda Pearson in Woodstock, Georgia said: He is home working. He loves what he is doing and is making great money. He is making the same at home as he was as an HVAC Foreman at 116 hours per week. So I feel blessed that he can earn the same money and be at home. Fluor and Dyn both gave him offers based on future needs. When it came down to choosing we chose for him to stay home as long as things continue to work out. He is open to going back if things change. I really feel for the guys out there that are being sent home and have no jobs to return to.

Hello Melinda , I know you do not know me, but I was just curious, the guys that are being set home did they work for KBR?

I meant to say sent home- oops!

Modern Day Cowboy in Somewhere, Texas said: Patrick:
I may have to answer your questions and fears in two separate messages, so please bear with me. It is to my understanding that, the CSA Kuwait FPO FOB static security contract will be up for bid again this coming September 2009. CSA Kuwait has had this long running contract for the past ten years and is up for bid again for another 10 years to come. Much like some previous private military contractors, CSA Kuwait has managed to land in hot water with the US Federal Government for many different types of contract and ethical violations, the usual violations such as fraud, waste, abuse, etc...

The average temperature in Kuwait during peak summer can reach as high as 140 degrees Farenheit. Working FOB static security at this capacity, one generally has pre-positioned water sources emplaced there on the perimeter post. I have been told by dear friends of mine who have worked with CSA Kuwait, that they do not refill those water sources with boxes of bottled water for their employees which is usually their shift supervisor's responsibility. Working 12 hour watches under those conditions with little or no water source is asking for trouble. Stand by for the second part of this message.

Thanks but it is with IAP, not CSA Kuwait.

tstorm in Plan said: 13$ bucks an hour no uplift? uh not no but hell no

T;
please e mail me at pathoag@cfl.rr.com

Orabella in Florida said: Are there a lot of them over there T--as far as married couple and I think he was wondering at the odds of getting hire for--as a couple and being at the same camp?

at balad last year i knew of 4 couples. this lady from materials came to stryker she had been at q west and some G site before my camp. for the first 15 months she and her husband were at diff camps. he worked mail. at stryker they only have 20 foot containers so they squeezed in one of those