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Gray Neher in Castle Pines, Colorado said: Silly me for taking the time to give a serious answer to your question posted here without remembering that your question (as usual) would just be a pretext to blast away on me. I won't make that mistake again.

In other words, you will just ignore this situation as you ignore others that you feel cant be explained. You are not a victim Gray. When you post how well you treat staff and try to explain how your locations are different and then someone who worked for you presents a different picture, what are we to think?? Should we beleive you and ignore Jewel 7? It does not matter to me the situation of why she was fired as much as the fact that you will fire someone without telling them the reason for it and then go on to say that its ok because Colorado law states that you dont need a reason as well as the ME handbook. That Gray, speaks about character and does not help your argument about how not all ME are the same. IF what Jewel has stated is true, then you are a wolf in sheeps clothing.

Bottom line is, this situation could have been handled better and all of this could have been avoided if pride and anger were not a factor.

Gray Neher wrote:
Silly me for taking the time to give a serious answer to your question posted here without remembering that your question (as usual) would just be a pretext to blast away on me. I won't make that mistake again.

Massage Therapist wrote:
You may not like fed ups style of answering you, but Gray you have to admit when you are wrong and you are definitely wrong in this case. You once said that you cared about the therapists who worked for you. Giving someone the reason for termination in my book would have been the right thing to do for someone who you care about.

Massage Therapist said: Jewel 7 wrote:
What about the time one of the therapist was offered money for sex and she was told they would set his appointments with another therapist even after she filled out a formal complaint from. And it was me who said if he is in my room an
and makes those offers I will sue ME!!!!

Massage Therapist wrote:
From reading what you wrote I believe this is the reason why you were terminated. You made Gray afraid of a possible lawsuit and you would have had a legitimate complaint. A massage therapist filled out a formal complaint and Massage Envy allowed him to come back and be scheduled with another therapist. Sheesh!!! At the Massage Envy I worked at there was a client who made one of the female therapist very uncomfortable. I saw him close the door to speak with the her and I got an uncomfortable feeling myself. This therapist was told that it was all in her head that nothing was wrong with him and was made to work on him again. Massage Envy has no clue on how to handle these situations. I believe Jewel you are a strong woman who stands up for her beliefs and Gray thought you were a liability. Its all about the money he doesnt understand what it feels like to work for a living and try to survive and take care a family on a Massage Envy salary! Gray you need to play Golf with Tiger Woods. By the way are you African American Jewel 7?

no i am not, I njust belive we are all equal regardless of race, gender, or religon

Jewel 7 wrote:
no i am not, I just belive we are all equal regardless of race, gender, or religon

Massage Therapist wrote:
The reason why I asked you that is if Gray made that racial comment and you were African American he would be in whole lot of trouble.
I do agree with your statement we are all equal. But that thinking takes an open mind and understanding.
People who make racial comments are often closeminded and have never spent quality time with other races to see that we are no different. Hence my comment to Gray on playing golf with Tiger Woods he needs to meet people of different races to see there is no difference. But I wont hold my breath people who are prejudice are often stuck in other parts of there life too and are not open to hearing different points of view.

LMT/CMT in Phoenix, Arizona said: Bottom line is, this situation could have been handled better and all of this could have been avoided if pride and anger were not a factor.

Dismissals are never an easy thing to do. Your posting indicates that you have never had to dismiss a therapist that worked for you. How fortunate on your part. Either you have the world's best therapists or you just let them do whatever they want to do. You don't know squat about this situation and I can't tell you due to confidentiality. But go ahead and believe what you wish because you will anyway.

LMT/CMT in Phoenix, Arizona said: Why do I think that Gray will try to find a way to shut JEWEL 7 up. I would not be surprised if he called her and threatened her with some legal garbage to stop her from posting here. :)

You can do that? I didn't know you could but it sounds like you know something about it. Please share. Great with the smiley face right after the flame, though. Very imaginative.

Massage Therapist said: Jewel 7 wrote:
no i am not, I just belive we are all equal regardless of race, gender, or religon

Massage Therapist wrote:
The reason why I asked you that is if Gray made that racial comment and you were African American he would be in whole lot of trouble.
I do agree with your statement we are all equal. But that thinking takes an open mind and understanding.
People who make racial comments are often closeminded and have never spent quality time with other races to see that we are no different. Hence my comment to Gray on playing golf with Tiger Woods he needs to meet people of different races to see there is no difference. But I wont hold my breath people who are prejudice are often stuck in other parts of there life too and are not open to hearing different points of view.

You might find it interesting to know that my wife's doctor is African American and, yes, I have played golf with him. Go ahead and believe whatever you wish because you will anyway.

Gray Neher in Castle Pines, Colorado said: Dismissals are never an easy thing to do. Your posting indicates that you have never had to dismiss a therapist that worked for you. How fortunate on your part. Either you have the world's best therapists or you just let them do whatever they want to do. You don't know squat about this situation and I can't tell you due to confidentiality. But go ahead and believe what you wish because you will anyway.

I never said I had never let anyone go Gray, what I said is that I never had to deal with that specific problem or had a therapist accuse me of such things. I either have to have the worlds best therapists or I let them do what they want?? No in between heh Gray? I guess thats what you need to beleive in order to feel better about things right?

Gray Neher in Castle Pines, Colorado said: You can do that? I didn't know you could but it sounds like you know something about it. Please share. Great with the smiley face right after the flame, though. Very imaginative.

I wouldnt put it past you, thats all. No I dont know a lot about it, Ive never had to worry about it.

LMT/CMT in Phoenix, Arizona said: I never said I had never let anyone go Gray, what I said is that I never had to deal with that specific problem or had a therapist accuse me of such things. I either have to have the worlds best therapists or I let them do what they want?? No in between heh Gray? I guess thats what you need to beleive in order to feel better about things right?

So, you tell them why you are firing them?

I feel I need to say that the client that offered the therapist money was banned from the clinic. He was told to never come back and never has. He has also been flagged on the software nationally. Massage Envy Colorado Springs takes these things very seriously and we protect our therapists at all times. The therapist was not ever told that the gentlemen would be scheduled with another therapist. I know this because I was the one who spoke with the therapist and worked with Gray on how best to ban this client from the clinic.

I can also assure you that Jewel was not fired because of her threat. Her threat was never mentioned to upper management or the owners. If she had shared what she thought was the truth about this client with anyone one of us, we could have let her know exactly what was done. Unfortunately, she did not and now she is telling people on this forum, and elsewhere, information that has no basis in reality.

I think it important, not only in life but in these types of forums especially, that we remember nobody ever solely speaks the truth. The truth is mixed heavily with our emotions, perspectives, opinions, and hearsay. We can never assume that anyone is telling the absolute truth at all times.

Gray Neher in Castle Pines, Colorado said: So, you tell them why you are firing them?

Of course I do. Dont you think its the right thing to do? I dont understand why this is such a new concept. They have a right to know and explain themselves before they are let go, especially when they have made you money. There have been instances where a misunderstanding took place and when it was discussed, both parties were able to see each others side of the situation and things were resolved. Even if the employee is still let go, at least there was dialog and closure.

Dr Envy in Colorado S[prings, Colorado said: I feel I need to say that the client that offered the therapist money was banned from the clinic. He was told to never come back and never has. He has also been flagged on the software nationally. Massage Envy Colorado Springs takes these things very seriously and we protect our therapists at all times. The therapist was not ever told that the gentlemen would be scheduled with another therapist. I know this because I was the one who spoke with the therapist and worked with Gray on how best to ban this client from the clinic.

I can also assure you that Jewel was not fired because of her threat. Her threat was never mentioned to upper management or the owners. If she had shared what she thought was the truth about this client with anyone one of us, we could have let her know exactly what was done. Unfortunately, she did not and now she is telling people on this forum, and elsewhere, information that has no basis in reality.

I think it important, not only in life but in these types of forums especially, that we remember nobody ever solely speaks the truth. The truth is mixed heavily with our emotions, perspectives, opinions, and hearsay. We can never assume that anyone is telling the absolute truth at all times.

I agree with your last statement. Glad to see Gray has someone to do some damage control for him. Still no explanation to Jewel as to why she was let go, right? Bad business.

Gray Neher in Castle Pines, Colorado said: So, you tell them why you are firing them?

How in the.......can telling an employee the reason for termination be confidential??? You didnt have a reason, or at least one that would not leave you open to a legal problem, thats the only reason it could be. get real. Hide behind ME and the law Gray, but we see a different picture of your clinics.

Has anyone thought to consider that giving a valid reason for termination may only hurt someone's pride or self esteem? Has anyone ever broken up with someone and did not share the reason or the real reason why? Sometimes you care so much about a person that you feel it best to protect them from the honest truth. I don't think that anyone on this forum could say that they have never done that. If you truly have never done this, I welcome you to throw the first stone.

Who creates the right and wrong rules? Who says it is 'right' for someone to do something? What is right for one person may be completely wrong for another person. How can we judge someone based on what we feel is right for ourselves?

As the staff member of Massage Envy Colorado Springs who has the most communication with the Gray, I feel I should say that he nor any member of his family are racist or prejudice in any way. They are extremely generous and do all they can to give back to the staff for all their hard work.

Dr Envy in Colorado Springs, Colorado said: Has anyone thought to consider that giving a valid reason for termination may only hurt someone's pride or self esteem? Has anyone ever broken up with someone and did not share the reason or the real reason why? Sometimes you care so much about a person that you feel it best to protect them from the honest truth. I don't think that anyone on this forum could say that they have never done that. If you truly have never done this, I welcome you to throw the first stone.

Who creates the right and wrong rules? Who says it is 'right' for someone to do something? What is right for one person may be completely wrong for another person. How can we judge someone based on what we feel is right for ourselves?

As the staff member of Massage Envy Colorado Springs who has the most communication with the Gray, I feel I should say that he nor any member of his family are racist or prejudice in any way. They are extremely generous and do all they can to give back to the staff for all their hard work.

Are you serious?? Hurting someones pride and esteem?? How do you think it makes someone feel when they have given a lot of their time to work for you, help you be successful etc and then be told they are no longer needed with no explanation?? I would be mad, hurt, frustrated to know that a company I was apart of and who i thought respected me as a human being, not just a cash register, would fire me and not even have the respect to tell me why. This is the biggest crock Ive heard yet. You are expecting us to beleive that Gray cared so much for Jewel, that he fired her without an explanation?? With friends like this, you dont need enemies. So far as who creates the rules of wrong vs right, I would hope that character, decency and a conscience would help. This is whats right for everyone, to expect to be treated with worth and value, show me someone that does not want that.

Dr Envy in Colorado Springs, Colorado said: Has anyone thought to consider that giving a valid reason for termination may only hurt someone's pride or self esteem? Has anyone ever broken up with someone and did not share the reason or the real reason why? Sometimes you care so much about a person that you feel it best to protect them from the honest truth. I don't think that anyone on this forum could say that they have never done that. If you truly have never done this, I welcome you to throw the first stone.

Who creates the right and wrong rules? Who says it is 'right' for someone to do something? What is right for one person may be completely wrong for another person. How can we judge someone based on what we feel is right for ourselves?

As the staff member of Massage Envy Colorado Springs who has the most communication with the Gray, I feel I should say that he nor any member of his family are racist or prejudice in any way. They are extremely generous and do all they can to give back to the staff for all their hard work.

Thanks for the post though, now we really have an idea of how your clinics are run and how management operates. Just like ME Corp. screw their staff and then brag about all of the good things they do for people, ie donations etc. Good greif!

Dr Envy in Colorado Springs, Colorado said: Has anyone thought to consider that giving a valid reason for termination may only hurt someone's pride or self esteem? Has anyone ever broken up with someone and did not share the reason or the real reason why? Sometimes you care so much about a person that you feel it best to protect them from the honest truth. I don't think that anyone on this forum could say that they have never done that. If you truly have never done this, I welcome you to throw the first stone.

Who creates the right and wrong rules? Who says it is 'right' for someone to do something? What is right for one person may be completely wrong for another person. How can we judge someone based on what we feel is right for ourselves?

As the staff member of Massage Envy Colorado Springs who has the most communication with the Gray, I feel I should say that he nor any member of his family are racist or prejudice in any way. They are extremely generous and do all they can to give back to the staff for all their hard work.

The reason for her termination was more than likely not a valid one, hence no reason. Keep covering your butts:)

LMT/CMT in Phoenix, Arizona said: Of course I do. Dont you think its the right thing to do? I dont understand why this is such a new concept. They have a right to know and explain themselves before they are let go, especially when they have made you money. There have been instances where a misunderstanding took place and when it was discussed, both parties were able to see each others side of the situation and things were resolved. Even if the employee is still let go, at least there was dialog and closure.

You are the brave one. Just between us employers, though, you might want to check with your attorney/HR specialist as to why that might not be a good idea. Just a suggestion and spin it any way you want as I know you will do.

LMT/CMT in Phoenix, Arizona said: Thanks for the post though, now we really have an idea of how your clinics are run and how management operates.

No you don't.

First, I would like to say that the therapist that was offered money was so hurt, did not feel that ME had her back so, I went to the front desk and spoke with B. So, I did speake with someone, another therapist wanted to have a petion of protest done against the client. I was not the only one upset. I am the kind of person who speaks up when no one else will. I am an advocate at heart.I came here only to get grays attention and see if then he would speak to me, he did and at least I can walk away with knowing it wasnt my work as a therapist. I enjoyed the people I worked with and became friends with some. I am just confused why my being let go is confidental, because it has been the not knowing why that had me second guessing myself proffessionaly and personaly. However a therapist I went to school with and this is even before I came to work there told me of someone we both went to school with that this person had worked their but, was fired and told me why they were fired. But, the reason of my firing is confidental. I find it a shrewd way of doing business. If we are to be really honest here, all those at ME Co. Sps. would agree to the fact that some therapist have been warned and warned and warned! Given chance after chance, then here I am no warning, nothing and I am unemployed. This can only lead me to believe that my firing may or could have been questioned. The comment Gray made of lawyers and sheriffs dept. well,that was a 100% cheap shot. I can be pretty out spoken but usually I am defending someone or some injustice. I know Grays comment to me, he can deny it, oh well! You put 2 and 2 together. I am really disheartened by racism in america! I dont believe that we should vote according to race or gender! Our country is in a mess and we need the right president to help led us out of it. I went into massage therapy because I honestly care about people and want to help in any way I can, whether it be a massage, kind word, or just a smile.

Gray Neher in Castle Pines, Colorado said: You are the brave one. Just between us employers, though, you might want to check with your attorney/HR specialist as to why that might not be a good idea. Just a suggestion and spin it any way you want as I know you will do.

No spin Gray, I leave that specialty to you. I just dissagree with you. I dont feel the need to be paranoid about these things. I have an attorney. Whatever happened to dealing with people as people. You can always cover your butt, but you also need to be compassionate. Ive known people that were let go from jobs and they were told why, this just does not make sense.

Gray Neher in Castle Pines, Colorado said: No you don't.

Maybe you are right, why dont you tell us all again how great your clinics are so we will have the "truth" because apparently, you should be the one we listen to, not any of your employees.

and if ME really wants to make a difference in their community let them offer FREE massages to victims of abuse, reintroduce nurturing touch, healing touch, and relief from pain in womans and childrens bodies. I know that from the beginning of school th present I have given numerous massages at no cost. Let ME have equal number of therapist from every race, and most important acknowledge each therapist for their hard work and show them each respect, not mattering if the can do 1 massage a day or 20, deep or more superfical. If you do something for one do it for all others. Because all those therapist working their butts off are housing you in a beautiful home, putting yummy food in your tummies, and lets not forget allowing you to play golf anime you'ld like.

The bottom line here is that if Gray had a true and ethical reason to fire Jewel, he could tell her and nothing could come of it. Now if the reason was unethical, and he wanted to be rid of her for a personal reason, then I could see the need to check with a lawyer and be evasive. So who is spinning what here???

Gustavo in Sunset, South Carolina said: MOST OF YOU ARE MINDLESS FONDLERS, MOVE ON A GET A FRIGGIN REAL JOB,QUAKERS

Trying to distract attention from this mess?? Nice try. How conveinient, Good luck. and goodby.

Dr Envy in Colorado Springs, Colorado said: Has anyone thought to consider that giving a valid reason for termination may only hurt someone's pride or self esteem? Has anyone ever broken up with someone and did not share the reason or the real reason why? Sometimes you care so much about a person that you feel it best to protect them from the honest truth. I don't think that anyone on this forum could say that they have never done that. If you truly have never done this, I welcome you to throw the first stone.

Who creates the right and wrong rules? Who says it is 'right' for someone to do something? What is right for one person may be completely wrong for another person. How can we judge someone based on what we feel is right for ourselves?

As the staff member of Massage Envy Colorado Springs who has the most communication with the Gray, I feel I should say that he nor any member of his family are racist or prejudice in any way. They are extremely generous and do all they can to give back to the staff for all their hard work.

The truth here is, I said to Gray how I am having a hard time deciding who to vote for, his reply to me was,[as GOD is my witness this is 200% honest!}What we dont need is a black man running our country". How is that not a racist comment. And by the way their are others at ME that know about this comment.Honestly Dr.----- He made that comment so, if he is not a racist man then what is he? It's not even that I may back Obama or not, if truth be told I am a conservative rebublican.However, the statement he made to me was racist, it was the last time he spoke to me or looked at me. All clues point to this fact, he was covering himself. He even said ,oh, I should not have said that to you, I told him its ok, I let it go. I was offended by it, but I let it go. Explain that,as for me, I know what he said, I am out a job, and he is trying to shine. My question to you Dr.-----,how well do you know your boss? Scary thought.

Gray Neher in Castle Pines, Colorado said: Take a wild guess as to why. Here's a hint: (lawyers and/or the sheriff's department can be involved).

Gray, you still have avoid explaining this comment. Why on earth would lawyers and the sheriffs department be involved with my termination of employment at Massage Envy?

jewel7 in Colorado Springs, Colorado said: Gray, you still have avoid explaining this comment. Why on earth would lawyers and the sheriffs department be involved with my termination of employment at Massage Envy?

And Dr. ----- do you have any explanation for this comment Gray made about my termination? Lawyers and the Sheriffs dept. very serious.

jewel7 in Colorado Springs, Colorado said: The truth here is, I said to Gray how I am having a hard time deciding who to vote for, his reply to me was,[as GOD is my witness this is 200% honest!}What we dont need is a black man running our country". How is that not a racist comment. And by the way their are others at ME that know about this comment.Honestly Dr.----- He made that comment so, if he is not a racist man then what is he? It's not even that I may back Obama or not, if truth be told I am a conservative rebublican.However, the statement he made to me was racist, it was the last time he spoke to me or looked at me. All clues point to this fact, he was covering himself. He even said ,oh, I should not have said that to you, I told him its ok, I let it go. I was offended by it, but I let it go. Explain that,as for me, I know what he said, I am out a job, and he is trying to shine. My question to you Dr.-----,how well do you know your boss? Scary thought.

If this is true, then I understand why Gray could not tell you why you were being fired, makes sense now.

Dr Envy in Colorado Springs, Colorado said: Has anyone thought to consider that giving a valid reason for termination may only hurt someone's pride or self esteem? Has anyone ever broken up with someone and did not share the reason or the real reason why? Sometimes you care so much about a person that you feel it best to protect them from the honest truth. I don't think that anyone on this forum could say that they have never done that. If you truly have never done this, I welcome you to throw the first stone.

Who creates the right and wrong rules? Who says it is 'right' for someone to do something? What is right for one person may be completely wrong for another person. How can we judge someone based on what we feel is right for ourselves?

As the staff member of Massage Envy Colorado Springs who has the most communication with the Gray, I feel I should say that he nor any member of his family are racist or prejudice in any way. They are extremely generous and do all they can to give back to the staff for all their hard work.

Ok:)

Dr Envy in Colorado Springs, Colorado said: Has anyone thought to consider that giving a valid reason for termination may only hurt someone's pride or self esteem? Has anyone ever broken up with someone and did not share the reason or the real reason why? Sometimes you care so much about a person that you feel it best to protect them from the honest truth. I don't think that anyone on this forum could say that they have never done that. If you truly have never done this, I welcome you to throw the first stone.

Who creates the right and wrong rules? Who says it is 'right' for someone to do something? What is right for one person may be completely wrong for another person. How can we judge someone based on what we feel is right for ourselves?

As the staff member of Massage Envy Colorado Springs who has the most communication with the Gray, I feel I should say that he nor any member of his family are racist or prejudice in any way. They are extremely generous and do all they can to give back to the staff for all their hard work.

So, what you are saying is that you care so much about me that something about me caused me to lose my job, my substance for eating, paying bills that you all wanted to protect me of something bad for your business but, too horrible of a fact about myself? And, no if I break up with someone I usually tell them why, if I see my kids doing something that could hurt themselves or others I usaully tell them. Not to be hurtful but, too be helpful in their future. I suppose some still believe ignorance is bliss. however, I am not ignorant.

Gray:
If I was working for another massage company, and lost my job, I would want to know why too.

anonymous anonmous in Freehold, New Jersey said: Gray:
If I was working for another massage company, and lost my job, I would want to know why too.

If it was legit. Seems like some unapropriate comments were made and when Gray was called on it, he didnt like it. To avoid a potential problem down the road and possible legal recourse, he thought it would be easier to terminate Jewel to avoid a potential problem. This, of course is not a legit reason to fire her and if he told her the reason, it would leave him open to legal consequences. Making racist comments in the workplace is a dumb move, you never know who you are speaking to and if they dont agree, there can be some serious problems. Of course, this is to say that if all that has been written here is true of course.

I think it is completely ludicrous for anyone to say when you hear Massage Envy to run. Saying that about any employer who provides a significant amount of jobs to our profession is a disgrace, especially in today's market. It is not easy to make it on your own as a therapist and once all of the bills are paid for your business, you don't make much more than what Massage Envy pays and you of course don't have to deal with the headaches. There aren't a lot of jobs out there where you can go to school for a year and come out making $25 an hour. I have a friend who is a social worker and she went to school for 6 years and I make more money than her and I would say we both put a lot of ourselves into our work. At the end of the day, it is not just about the money.

I've been a therapist at both the Powell and Dublin Ohio locations and we have great owners who care about their therapists and do what they can to make the clinics a nice place to work. I work with many other therapists who have years of experience and who've had or currently have their own businesses and they will all admit that when it comes down to it, the pay at Massage Envy is not bad. Yes, they charge $55-$65 per hour on their own, but that is not all pocketed. The best therapists that I work with at Massage Envy are averaging $30 per hour, with no headaches. And we are never asked to work beyond what we've told management we can work. All in all, I would recommend it to anyone as it is great to work around 25 of my peers, we get free employee massages, the atmosphere is clean and professional and oh yeah, everything is taken care of for us - we don't even have to clean.

anonymous anonmous in Freehold, New Jersey said: LMT/CMT from Az,
Yes, I have noticed that Gray responds selectively.

This I am finding is true

LMT/CMT in Phoenix, Arizona said: No spin Gray, I leave that specialty to you. I just dissagree with you. I dont feel the need to be paranoid about these things. I have an attorney. Whatever happened to dealing with people as people. You can always cover your butt, but you also need to be compassionate. Ive known people that were let go from jobs and they were told why, this just does not make sense.

Do yourself a favor and have a conversation about it with your attorney.

LMT/CMT in Phoenix, Arizona said: If it was legit. Seems like some unapropriate comments were made and when Gray was called on it, he didnt like it. To avoid a potential problem down the road and possible legal recourse, he thought it would be easier to terminate Jewel to avoid a potential problem. This, of course is not a legit reason to fire her and if he told her the reason, it would leave him open to legal consequences. Making racist comments in the workplace is a dumb move, you never know who you are speaking to and if they dont agree, there can be some serious problems. Of course, this is to say that if all that has been written here is true of course.

When this statement was said to me, I let it go. Gray did tell me he should not of said that and he apologised for what he said. I told him it was ok, there is a massage room next to the break room and you can hear everything said. I did have a conversation with a therapist and they know what was said. I did not make a big deal out of it but, I cant help to think that it was this that led to my termination. I only wish Gray would have sat down with me, Dr----- was the one to fire me and he said he only found out about it and it was the ownerships decsion[a family] he even said to me he did not know the reasons why. I guess I just wanted him to man up and be honest with me. I can lie down at night and sleep good,I know I gave my best to ME, and now I will probly NEVER work for a big corp. again. If I wanted to be dirty I suppose I could, thats not me. I just wanted him to be honest. Maybe this will be a lesson for all of us.

Gray Neher in Castle Pines, Colorado said: Do yourself a favor and have a conversation about it with your attorney.

Gray, this is what is sad in our world today that people who have the money always bring "get a lawyer", what ever happened to being honest with the employee and giving them a bit of respect? If, I did something wrong why should I not be allowed to know what wrong I have done? If change can ever occur doesnt that begin with truth? And if I did something wrong, how can I change without knowing the truth? So, that leaves me not only questioning myself but, you and ME. So, you have nothing to hide, right? Just be truthful with me, its very simple. I completely agree that reasons of termmination should be confidental from other employees, but why from the employee fired? I am 48 years old, my father was a business owner, I have owned my own business and have never heard of this.Please explain...

ans111 in Columbus, Ohio said: I think it is completely ludicrous for anyone to say when you hear Massage Envy to run. Saying that about any employer who provides a significant amount of jobs to our profession is a disgrace, especially in today's market. It is not easy to make it on your own as a therapist and once all of the bills are paid for your business, you don't make much more than what Massage Envy pays and you of course don't have to deal with the headaches. There aren't a lot of jobs out there where you can go to school for a year and come out making $25 an hour. I have a friend who is a social worker and she went to school for 6 years and I make more money than her and I would say we both put a lot of ourselves into our work. At the end of the day, it is not just about the money.

I've been a therapist at both the Powell and Dublin Ohio locations and we have great owners who care about their therapists and do what they can to make the clinics a nice place to work. I work with many other therapists who have years of experience and who've had or currently have their own businesses and they will all admit that when it comes down to it, the pay at Massage Envy is not bad. Yes, they charge $55-$65 per hour on their own, but that is not all pocketed. The best therapists that I work with at Massage Envy are averaging $30 per hour, with no headaches. And we are never asked to work beyond what we've told management we can work. All in all, I would recommend it to anyone as it is great to work around 25 of my peers, we get free employee massages, the atmosphere is clean and professional and oh yeah, everything is taken care of for us - we don't even have to clean.

Absolutely not true. I make alot more money working for myself than i did at ME. So far a headaches, it depends on how you choose to run your business and if you know what you are doing. I would not trade it for anything.

Gray Neher in Castle Pines, Colorado said: Do yourself a favor and have a conversation about it with your attorney.

Thanks for the advice Gray, but Ive been in this business longer than you. I know the legal ramifications, but again, it depends on what you fire someone for and if you are in the right, no problems. Been there, done it and Im not in jail yet. You call the employee in with another manager present, discuss the problem, try to find a way to solve it. Then the ball is in their court, they can either move on, or stay and streighten out. If they stay and continue with the BS then you have already given them a written warning, which they have signed, and you have grounds to let them go if they continue with the behavior. There are many ways to cover yourself and be fair.

Gray Neher in Castle Pines, Colorado said: Do yourself a favor and have a conversation about it with your attorney.

If what Jewel is saying is true, maybe YOU should talk to your lawyer.

LMT/CMT in Phoenix, Arizona said: If what Jewel is saying is true, maybe YOU should talk to your lawyer.

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