Massage Envy Salaries, Bonuses and Benefits.

Neck Massage:
Sounds like you have a lot of resentment. I am not the one who paid you; Massage Envy did. Glad I do not live your life. Notice too, how you essentially used profanity while I did not. Grow up. As far as wanting to meet me in person, I would not meet you as you disrespected me and also for reasons of anonymity. By the way, I am a man (you had put man or woman down). Unlikely, that you are going to meet me anyway, but I am making it clear to you now that you would not be welcome, so no stalking please. I had a stalker once and it did not work out well for him.

anonymous anonmous in Freehold, New Jersey said: Gray:
I did work for a Massage Envy and am glad that I do not.

Getting the facts streight is not the priority here, didnt you know? Gray hears what he wants and selectivly chooses to respond to what he wants.

LMt/CMT in Phoenix, Arizona wrote:
Getting the facts streight is not the priority here, didnt you know? Gray hears what he wants and selectivly chooses to respond to what he wants.

Massage Therapist wrote:
Sorry Gray but you do indeed do this. If anyone wants to go back and read past comments you will see this to be true.

Mickieann10 in Norwood, Massachusetts said: I'm not even sure what you mean. Being negative about anything is basically lacking in constructiveness, helpfulness, optimism, cooperativeness, etc. all things which are indeed complaining/whining in some extent. As far as the defense of ME, well yea it is defense. Sorry if you take it as whining and/or complaining. Its just the truth for some people outside of Arizona.

sorry mickie either it is all whining or its none. that sounds pretty condesending to say everthing for m.e. is defense or constructive and those of us against this business model are just whiners. sorry but to me that just sounds ignorant. i am against this business model but i dont remember whining about it even once on this forum.

i heart massage in huffman, Texas said: sorry mickie either it is all whining or its none. that sounds pretty condesending to say everthing for m.e. is defense or constructive and those of us against this business model are just whiners. sorry but to me that just sounds ignorant. i am against this business model but i dont remember whining about it even once on this forum.

Where did I say that those of you that are against ME are whiners. All that sounds ignorant to me is your comment. Look up negative in the dictionary. It says exactly what I stated. In fact thats where I got it from. While your at it, you could look up complaining and/or whining all of which has the word negative in the definition somewhere. I do remember you whining on this forum, not about ME but about the spa you work(ed) at.

There is NO COMPANY on this forum with more complaints from former employees than Massage Envy. Why doesnt Massage Envy try to hear what the therapist are saying and try to constructively correct it?

Massage Therapist said: There is NO COMPANY on this forum with more complaints from former employees than Massage Envy. Why doesnt Massage Envy try to hear what the therapist are saying and try to constructively correct it?

First I would like to state the obvious. You are right about No Company on this forum considering this is a Massage Envy forum. I think you mean on this site. Small mistake no biggie. Secondly, how do you know they haven't? You don't currently work for ME do you? ME put out an employee survey that I took part in a few months back. How do you know they haven't listened and are going to implement some changes?

Being negative about anything is basically lacking in constructiveness, helpfulness, optimism, cooperativeness, etc. all things which are indeed complaining/whining in some extent.

really you didnt say this - it is basically the same thing as saying we are whining about m.e. - by the way please show me where i whined about anything you must have me confused with someone else - all i did was ask a few questions about m.e. and express a few concerns i am pretty sure that doesnt make me a whiner

Massage Therapist said: There is NO COMPANY on this forum with more complaints from former employees than Massage Envy. Why doesnt Massage Envy try to hear what the therapist are saying and try to constructively correct it?

Simple, they are not that concerned about therapists. If they leave, then they will hire someone else. This is a factory mentality. They count on the fact that they will always have a pool of new grads to pull from. This sounds just like the documentary Ive seen on Wal-Mart. after a company gets to a certain size, they worry a little less about complaints and concentrate on hitting the numbers, its all about stats. If they were to address the complints brought forward and actually did something about it, they would have to change the ME model. so dont hold your breath.

Mickieann10 in Norwood, Massachusetts said: First I would like to state the obvious. You are right about No Company on this forum considering this is a Massage Envy forum. I think you mean on this site. Small mistake no biggie. Secondly, how do you know they haven't? You don't currently work for ME do you? ME put out an employee survey that I took part in a few months back. How do you know they haven't listened and are going to implement some changes?

Hang in there:)

i heart massage in huffman, Texas said: Being negative about anything is basically lacking in constructiveness, helpfulness, optimism, cooperativeness, etc. all things which are indeed complaining/whining in some extent.

really you didnt say this - it is basically the same thing as saying we are whining about m.e. - by the way please show me where i whined about anything you must have me confused with someone else - all i did was ask a few questions about m.e. and express a few concerns i am pretty sure that doesnt make me a whiner

I did say that in reference to LMT/CMT's comment about why things negative about ME are whining or complaining and things in defense of ME are just that. Again if you look up the word negative in the dictionary, as I did, the definition says just that minus the all things part which I added in to emphasize my point. I don't know about you, or some others, but what I say means just what I say, no double meanings or associations as you assume. Also I never said you whined about ME just that you whined about the spa you work or worked at. If I have you confused with someone else I apologize. However I still think your comment to me was ignorant not vise-versa.

LMT/CMT in Phoenix, Arizona said: Hang in there:)

I see the light at the end of the tunnel so I don't have to hang in there that much longer but thanxs for the words of encouragement

Mickieann10 in Norwood, Massachusetts said: I see the light at the end of the tunnel so I don't have to hang in there that much longer but thanxs for the words of encouragement

Isnt that sad when you have to hang in there and see "light at the end of the tunnel" at a job with a company you say is so great?? Anyway, I hope evrything works the way you expect.

Mickieann10 in Norwood, Massachusetts said: I did say that in reference to LMT/CMT's comment about why things negative about ME are whining or complaining and things in defense of ME are just that. Again if you look up the word negative in the dictionary, as I did, the definition says just that minus the all things part which I added in to emphasize my point. I don't know about you, or some others, but what I say means just what I say, no double meanings or associations as you assume. Also I never said you whined about ME just that you whined about the spa you work or worked at. If I have you confused with someone else I apologize. However I still think your comment to me was ignorant not vise-versa.

if you say so - but you must know i am talking about the conotation of what you are saying not the denotation of the words whining, complaining, negative, etc.. i for one dont need to look them up to know what they mean. and yes you did get me confused with someone else.

LMT/CMT in Phoenix, Arizona said: Isnt that sad when you have to hang in there and see "light at the end of the tunnel" at a job with a company you say is so great?? Anyway, I hope evrything works the way you expect.

note to self, LMT/CMT can be sarcastic but does not get sarcasm when it is directed towards them

i heart massage in huffman, Texas said: if you say so - but you must know i am talking about the conotation of what you are saying not the denotation of the words whining, complaining, negative, etc.. i for one dont need to look them up to know what they mean. and yes you did get me confused with someone else.

And you must know, as I explained earlier, I was referring to the denotation not the connotation. Just because you use different words doesn't make it any less true. I try to leave emotions out of what I say on here, it gets me, or others, nowhere. So what I type is what I type no connotations. Unless I'm trying to be sarcastic, which really isn't well received here anyways. So much for trying to be nice and apologizing. Funny how you didn't apologize to me, even though you think you probably don't have to. I don't feel I had to either but I rose above and did it anyways. All of this doesn't change the fact that your comment to me was ignorant, extensive vocabulary and all (sarcasm in case anyone didn't get it).

Mickieann10 in Norwood, Massachusetts said: note to self, LMT/CMT can be sarcastic but does not get sarcasm when it is directed towards them

Oh, I get it. But I was not being sarcastic.

LMT/CMT in Phoenix, Arizona said: Oh, I get it. But I was not being sarcastic.

Well with your stand on ME I took your "hang in there" as sarcastic. Then when I was sarcastic back you took it beyond sarcasm into pity. If thats not how it was meant maybe next time you should be clear or I should take it as a denotation and practice what I preach. Either way I'm not gonna argue with you about sarcasm anymore. It has nothing to do with ME.

LMT/CMT from Az has never been sarcastic in any of the posts since I have been a part of this Forum. Pointing out negative flaws about corporation is not being sarcastic (please look up this word -- it has to do with mean joking). LMT/CMT from Az has actually made some very poignant points and I have learned from him.

LMT/CMT from Az,
Yes, I have noticed that Gray responds selectively.

Mickieann10 in Norwood, Massachusetts said: And you must know, as I explained earlier, I was referring to the denotation not the connotation. Just because you use different words doesn't make it any less true. I try to leave emotions out of what I say on here, it gets me, or others, nowhere. So what I type is what I type no connotations. Unless I'm trying to be sarcastic, which really isn't well received here anyways. So much for trying to be nice and apologizing. Funny how you didn't apologize to me, even though you think you probably don't have to. I don't feel I had to either but I rose above and did it anyways. All of this doesn't change the fact that your comment to me was ignorant, extensive vocabulary and all (sarcasm in case anyone didn't get it).

i dont see what i would have to apologize for i simply voiced my opinion on your overgeneralization of the comments on this forum - i assumed you apoligized for confusing me with someone else and not the fact that your comments to mine are sarcastic and overly defensive. and just so you know, when you try to group together the comments on this forum like that and label them into the m.e. defenders and m.e. whining or complaining you are overgeneralizing - which is ignorant - as i stated earlier i remember voicing my opinion and asking some questions which grey was kind enough to answer - i do not however remember whining.

LMT/CMT in Phoenix, Arizona said: Maybe at your location, but you dont know what others make. I have heard different numbers, so its deceptive to say "ME" pays 30k-40k.

i not only agree but 30000 works out to about 15 dollars an hour. Where I live that doesnt pay the bills, expecially with the cost of gas.

Here is what I dont understand. I have worked for massage envy, and the main reason I worked there was for the flexability of hours in order to open my own place while marketing and building up clients. Did I do well there? Yes. Am I doing a heck of alot better on my own? Yes. All the therapists have to do at massage envy is go on strike for one week. And I mean one week. They wouldnt be able to pay the bills used to run the place and they would have to cave. Plus, they wouldnt want the bad publicity. So, the first thing you need to do is find out how many massage envys are in your general area and start getting those therapists together. Think about this "what would happen if even a few days all therapists even in just one office refused to go into work. You call the news and put it on TV. It will turn into a craze with over 700 offices nationwide. You dont have to be unhappy with massage envys pay. But would you at least want to get paid hourly vs per massage. So at least you were making a solid paycheck every week instead of the guessing game of how busy the office is.

PS does anyone else find it funny that John Lenesio sells massage envy when supposedly its still growing and becoming larger and larger? It is because he realizes how easy it would be for all of these massage envys to collapse. He grew it large enough to make millions and ta da. Sold. Just in time. He knows the therapists are angry. But, its about who is going to make the first move?

I am a current employee of ME. I love massage therapy. What I do brings me great joy and satisfaction. However I would have been better off on my own with no client base than to work for such a greedy company. ME is the McDonald's of massge therapy:one on every corner and cheap. As an LMT you are paid $15/massage that is 40% of their "Introductory"($39) massage, however that is to get the customer in the door. The purpose is to get the customer to sign up for their membership program which is $59/month for a 1 hr massage. In that case your pay is still $15 and you are now at 26%. If the client chooses not to sign up but they want to come back thay pay a rate of $78 for 1 hr. In this, the most disturbing of cases, your pay is $15 and you are now at 20%. The "average" gratuity is roughly $8-$10 for 1 hr. There is no bonus structure and it's like pulling teeth to get necessities like soap to wash your hands after each massage. You are better off buying your own health insurance as the cost through the company is astronomical. They don't do out-call so there is no travel req'd. And depending on how greedy the owner of your particular location is depends on perks/treats. Like I stated at the beginning, I love my profession but ME is the wrong place for any LMT to practice.

hey now in Las Vegas, Nevada said: I am a current employee of ME. I love massage therapy. What I do brings me great joy and satisfaction. However I would have been better off on my own with no client base than to work for such a greedy company. ME is the McDonald's of massge therapy:one on every corner and cheap. As an LMT you are paid $15/massage that is 40% of their "Introductory"($39) massage, however that is to get the customer in the door. The purpose is to get the customer to sign up for their membership program which is $59/month for a 1 hr massage. In that case your pay is still $15 and you are now at 26%. If the client chooses not to sign up but they want to come back thay pay a rate of $78 for 1 hr. In this, the most disturbing of cases, your pay is $15 and you are now at 20%. The "average" gratuity is roughly $8-$10 for 1 hr. There is no bonus structure and it's like pulling teeth to get necessities like soap to wash your hands after each massage. You are better off buying your own health insurance as the cost through the company is astronomical. They don't do out-call so there is no travel req'd. And depending on how greedy the owner of your particular location is depends on perks/treats. Like I stated at the beginning, I love my profession but ME is the wrong place for any LMT to practice.

Yeah, well get ready. If that mass. env. is the type that you cant even get soap, then they are also the type that will book you all deep tissue back to back all day. But, each massage envy is different in that manner. So, you might not deal with something like that as much at a different massage envy. Also, tips should average 10-15. I would change at least massage envy locations for now or at least until you get experience. 8????? I rarely got 8 for a tip. Thats a slap in the face

anonymous anonmous in Freehold, New Jersey said: Neck Massage:
Sounds like you have a lot of resentment. I am not the one who paid you; Massage Envy did. Glad I do not live your life. Notice too, how you essentially used profanity while I did not. Grow up. As far as wanting to meet me in person, I would not meet you as you disrespected me and also for reasons of anonymity. By the way, I am a man (you had put man or woman down). Unlikely, that you are going to meet me anyway, but I am making it clear to you now that you would not be welcome, so no stalking please. I had a stalker once and it did not work out well for him.

Some day I'll be a grown up like you. Stalker? I don't see the point in stalking anyone, let alone someone as fantastic as you. I got some advice to stay off this site if I can't stand complaining. Good advice. I came here for shi(p)s and giggles. Why do I care if people who hate my job have a venting site? You can have your "hate the envy" site. Whatever floats your boat. I'll return to my sad profain life. I'll try to speak more edge-u-ma-kated. You can continue proving how much better you are than all of us M.E. regects. This site will be more fun for you if no current employees are here to defend themselves.

Neck Massage in Seattle, Washington said: Some day I'll be a grown up like you. Stalker? I don't see the point in stalking anyone, let alone someone as fantastic as you. I got some advice to stay off this site if I can't stand complaining. Good advice. I came here for shi(p)s and giggles. Why do I care if people who hate my job have a venting site? You can have your "hate the envy" site. Whatever floats your boat. I'll return to my sad profain life. I'll try to speak more edge-u-ma-kated. You can continue proving how much better you are than all of us M.E. regects. This site will be more fun for you if no current employees are here to defend themselves.

Current employees? If I had some of the "current" employees I know post on this site, it would not work out well for you. There have been current employees who have posted here, but their commnets are usually ignored, pretend they dont exist, but then again, some people will choose their battles and usually the ones they think they can win. Good luck to you.

I have been a massage therapist at Massage Envy for over nine
months now. I am doing very well and I am treated great. They
supply everything and work with my schedule. You sound crazy
and bitter and you need to get a life. You give massage therapists a bad name. I encourage all therapists to check out
Massage Envy!

Susie Cue in Richmond, Virginia said: I have been a massage therapist at Massage Envy for over nine
months now. I am doing very well and I am treated great. They
supply everything and work with my schedule. You sound crazy
and bitter and you need to get a life. You give massage therapists a bad name. I encourage all therapists to check out
Massage Envy!

Another ME therapist. I sound crazy? bitter??, look at your post. I dont remember making nasty comments to you. I dont even know who you are but thanks for helping to prove my point. How do I give therapists a bad name? because I dont support this concept? Maybe you feel just a little insulted because someone talks bad about a company you choose to be apart of, thats understandable. Im not saying you are bad because you work there. Anyway, thanks for the intellegent argument. We do agree on one thing, I also encourage people to check out ME.

Susie Cue in Richmond, Virginia said: I have been a massage therapist at Massage Envy for over nine
months now. I am doing very well and I am treated great. They
supply everything and work with my schedule. You sound crazy
and bitter and you need to get a life. You give massage therapists a bad name. I encourage all therapists to check out
Massage Envy!

Oh, by the way, my life is fine, thanks for asking:)

Neck Massage in Seattle, Washington said: Some day I'll be a grown up like you. Stalker? I don't see the point in stalking anyone, let alone someone as fantastic as you. I got some advice to stay off this site if I can't stand complaining. Good advice. I came here for shi(p)s and giggles. Why do I care if people who hate my job have a venting site? You can have your "hate the envy" site. Whatever floats your boat. I'll return to my sad profain life. I'll try to speak more edge-u-ma-kated. You can continue proving how much better you are than all of us M.E. regects. This site will be more fun for you if no current employees are here to defend themselves.

What an ugly statement. Not only did you insult educated people but you insulted yourself. It is a sad state of affairs when people get made fun of for bettering themselves.

Neck Massage:
Whatever.

Susie:
LMT/CMT from Az was nerver bitter since I have been on this Forum. He makes a lot of great points.

anonymous anonmous in Freehold, New Jersey said: Gray:
I did work for a Massage Envy and am glad that I do not.

You posted that you did not - which is it?

anonymous anonmous in Freehold, New Jersey said: LMT/CMT from Az,
Yes, I have noticed that Gray responds selectively.

No, I take time off from the blog to play golf - a much simpler form of brain damage.

I am currently a therapist at Massage Envy. I realize that everyone's experience with this place is different-but I will have to say that my own personal one hasnt been very pleasant. The original questions in this post says: What are the average starting salaries, bonuses, benefits and travel requirements like at Massage Envy?

What do you like best about working at Massage Envy? Are there any great perks or special treats for employees?
In my experience-there hasn't been any bonuses or benefits that I have seen yet- and as far as the salary goes it is the $15 dollars/hr that I'm sure you are all aware of. I like the therapists and clients at Massage Envy but management in my particular store is skeptical as far as I am concerned. Massage Envy is/was my first massage job and when I went for my interview, I didn't really know what questions to ask-and now that I have had time to see how this franchise works-I am prepared to ask the right questions as I currently look for a new job.

Gray:
Both. Please re-read the post. "I did work for a Massage Envy..." refers to me working there in the past -- keyword did, past tense. "...glad that I do not" refers to me not working there presently -- keyword do, which, as as an educated business man, you know, is the present tense. I guess you had read the post quickly and missed that.
I used to work for Massage Envy. I no longer work there.

anonymous anonmous in Freehold, New Jersey said: Gray:
Both. Please re-read the post. "I did work for a Massage Envy..." refers to me working there in the past -- keyword did, past tense. "...glad that I do not" refers to me not working there presently -- keyword do, which, as as an educated business man, you know, is the present tense. I guess you had read the post quickly and missed that.
I used to work for Massage Envy. I no longer work there.

I went back to the post I was referring to and see that I misread it. My apologies for falsely portraying something you had posted.

I came to this forum because I'm an LMT and was thinking of trying Massage Envy. One of the things I find disturbing are the people who take issue with therapists who are not happy with $15/hr. It seems to me that what these people fail to realize (and what has been pointed out several times) is that most therapists don't work 40hrs/week. That massage is very physically damanding and doing 8 massages in a day (or almost 6 a day if you work 7 days a week) can be about the same as running a marathon several times a week.

I know therapists who work 20+ hours a week and have serious physical dysfunctions and overuse injuries. 40 hours a week is almost impossible to sustain.

So, while $15/hr for 40hrs a a week is pretty good, $15/hr for 15 or 20 is barely a livable wage. And while we don't have to pay for the cost of running a business, we still have rent, mortgages, car payments and other bills.. just like everyone else in the world.

And while there are a lot of consumers who complain that they can't afford a weekly $65/hr massage think of this:

People who work WITH their bodies need body work too, and at $15/hr for 15 hrs a week, a massage therapist at ME couldn't even afford to get a massage AT ME at the $39 rate.

And keep in mind that you only make that $15/hr IF you have clients.

I'm not talking about greed or an overly inflated sense of my own worth. I'm talking about being able to support myself, financially, in a career that I have spent thousands of dollars to pursue, without risk of injury or burnout.

I live in an area where people are cheap about massage. ME may prove to be the lesser of several evils,(do I work in a place that pays me more but has fewer clients or ME?). But that doesn't mean it doesn't have problems. I'll ultimately check it out for myself and voice my concerns in the interview. Still, this forum has given me food for thought

jnjlmt in Cincinnati, Ohio said: I came to this forum because I'm an LMT and was thinking of trying Massage Envy. One of the things I find disturbing are the people who take issue with therapists who are not happy with $15/hr. It seems to me that what these people fail to realize (and what has been pointed out several times) is that most therapists don't work 40hrs/week. That massage is very physically damanding and doing 8 massages in a day (or almost 6 a day if you work 7 days a week) can be about the same as running a marathon several times a week.

I know therapists who work 20+ hours a week and have serious physical dysfunctions and overuse injuries. 40 hours a week is almost impossible to sustain.

So, while $15/hr for 40hrs a a week is pretty good, $15/hr for 15 or 20 is barely a livable wage. And while we don't have to pay for the cost of running a business, we still have rent, mortgages, car payments and other bills.. just like everyone else in the world.

And while there are a lot of consumers who complain that they can't afford a weekly $65/hr massage think of this:

People who work WITH their bodies need body work too, and at $15/hr for 15 hrs a week, a massage therapist at ME couldn't even afford to get a massage AT ME at the $39 rate.

And keep in mind that you only make that $15/hr IF you have clients.

I'm not talking about greed or an overly inflated sense of my own worth. I'm talking about being able to support myself, financially, in a career that I have spent thousands of dollars to pursue, without risk of injury or burnout.

I live in an area where people are cheap about massage. ME may prove to be the lesser of several evils,(do I work in a place that pays me more but has fewer clients or ME?). But that doesn't mean it doesn't have problems. I'll ultimately check it out for myself and voice my concerns in the interview. Still, this forum has given me food for thought

Try it on your own first. See how it goes.

GRAY nEHER i HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU, DID YOU NOT RETURN MY CALLS BECAUSE AT HEART YOU ARE A COWARD?

Gray Neher in Castle Pines, Colorado said: Okay, here's a benefit for you: full time therapists get a comp 90 minute massage once a month. Part timers get a comp 60 minute every 100 modality hours. What's this about benefits for your (only) part time therapists? You posted that you didn't give them benefits because they are "independent contractors". I guess we'lljust have to "take your word for everything" since you don't (won't) disclose. I'm sure you have great clinic, though.

gRAY, liar, liar PANTS ON FIRE, AS A FORMER TERAPIST OF me, cO. sPRGS. YOU GET A ONE HOUR MASSAGE PER MONTH, IF I WAS LIED TO AGAIN I WILL BE IN TO COLLECT MY3 HOURS OF MASSAGE THAT I WAS NOT GIVEN

Ok Gray, I have read through these bogs and I am even more convinced you sir are a DIRTY< ROTTEN< SCOUNDRAL!!!!! So, is it far treatment to let someone go when all they have done is hard work, care and love their clients, listen with your heart as some lie on your table and cry tears of sorrow and dispair, always be on time , be willing to go the extra mile? The truth is you only are thinking about your pocket book! One at your front desk is having a special friendship with a client but thats ok even though she has a common law husband. I know another therapist ther who has had complaints about inapropriate touching during a massage but, he is still there. those there that complain none stop and have been told no more complaining or you are out of here, but they are still there. What about the time one of the therapist was offered money for sex and she was told they would set his appointments with another therapist even after she filled out a formal complaint from. And it was me who said if he is in my room and makes those offers I will sue ME!!!!! even though I have kids to feed by myself, and to put a roof over our heads you could not even give a legitamate reason for letting me go! You did not return any of my phone calls so, we could talk of the why's Yet you tell one at the front desk that you are in contact with me trying to reconcile hard feelings! You are a liar, deceiver, and you do not give your employees good benefits, therapist work soooo hard and are treated with disrespect! GOD forbid if you go a few minutes over those 50 minutes because you, your wife, and your son Morgan will lose money. And remember that shameful comment you made to me, that we dont need a black man as president in this country! You are also a racist Man. Now sir you may call me the B WORD! I am proud of it. Atleast I have dignity, integrity, self respect!!!

jewel7 in Colorado Springs, Colorado said: Ok Gray, I have read through these bogs and I am even more convinced you sir are a DIRTY< ROTTEN< SCOUNDRAL!!!!! I know another therapist ther who has had complaints about inapropriate touching during a massage but, he is still there. those there that complain none stop and have been told no more complaining or you are out of here, but they are still there. What about the time one of the therapist was offered money for sex and she was told they would set his appointments with another therapist even after she filled out a formal complaint from. And it was me who said if he is in my room and makes those offers I will sue ME!!!!! even though I have kids to feed by myself, and to put a roof over our heads you could not even give a legitamate reason for letting me go! You did not return any of my phone calls so, we could talk of the why's Yet you tell one at the front desk that you are in contact with me trying to reconcile hard feelings! You are a liar, deceiver, and you do not give your employees good benefits, therapist work soooo hard and are treated with disrespect! GOD forbid if you go a few minutes over those 50 minutes because you, your wife, and your son Morgan will lose money. And remember that shameful comment you made to me, that we dont need a black man as president in this country! You are also a racist Man. Now sir you may call me the B WORD! I am proud of it. Atleast I have dignity, integrity, self respect!!!

Wow Graydon, I'd say you're busted pal!!!! I said it before to you ans I'll say in again, you have no business being in our business!!!!

Wow,
After reading all this cramp about how ME treats their therapist, Im having second thoughts about being a member. I really enjoy my session at the Walnut Creek clinic, but now feel bad about supporting a company that does not treat its employees well. I like my therapist, and would gladly pay them the bucks to come to my home. However I mentioned I would be discontinuing my membership soon and ask for a card, which I have yet to receive. So, I will continue to visit the clinic, and show my graditude to have hooked up with a healer, by giving larger tips until I'm tired or can no longer afford paying my membership dues.