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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

yonkersbaby in Cold Spring, New Jersey said: HI Charl! Hope this helps! Here is a link to the Pure Weight Loss Refund Application Form: www.pureweightloss.com/RefundApp.pdf

I found it tonite among all the garbage on here. Very tiresome, indeed I agree.
I'm not sure how far we'll get with the refund LOL but I am going to send it anyhow. Certified mail! We'll see. I have already posted links to all the Attorneys General in the states - I'm going to search for that post and re-post it here for you. I wish you the best, & hope you get your refund.

As I said before, I am grateful to the staff and mgr at my center, which was in Northfield NJ. They were wonderful & very concerned. I loved them - they really helped me reach my goal. They were screwed as bad as the clients, if not more so. I do recognize that the morons who've been posting all this hate on here were probably the exception rather than the rule. I'll BRB with the info. Good luck Charl!

those people are just trying to tarnish this site ie bee-dope and loyal. dont let them. we will avail!!

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Jennygiggle47 in Indiana

8 months ago

You were in management and can't even type and use correct punctuation? Not surprising!!! I worked at LA WEIGHT LOSS for over 3 years and had several managers, area directors, and regional directors just like you with no heart and low intellect! Just to give you a head's up in case you haven't gone to file for unemployment yet, you will get a FRACTION of what you earned while you were still employed, especially if you were upper-level management and were raking in the money from all of the people you let go in the past year! If you are unmarried, a mother of young children, and were not in management or an hourly paid employee, then I will listen to your patronizing words. But I have a feeling that your paycheck wasn't the only paycheck in your household or you wouldn't talk to these people like they don't have a reason to be hurt! I haven't read ANYTHING saying that it wasn't a good program; that's why we are all so disappointed! We truly believed in what we were selling, both product and plan. I still do believe in it. But I have never believed in denigrating people I don't know anything about. I am 30 years old and have had 4 jobs in my entire life. Someone like you working for LA Weight Loss tried to cut my wages by 2 dollars per hour in April of 2007. I didn't take it, and it was a difficult decision for me because I didn't want to leave what I felt was my home and my family. So no, I won't just get over it. And I probably will cry. And there is nothing wrong with that when something bad happens that impacts your entire way of living. So go ahead and keep taking those bullets for VAHN!!! SOMEONE HAS TO, CAUSE THE CALVALRY IS COMING!!

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traeleo in Saint Louis, Missouri

8 months ago

I am so sorry for all the employees who lost their jobs. I think this is horrible. For those in upper management who really believe in what they did how about helping some of the customers? I haven't heard that much from any clients in Missouri. Do they employees are clients here not care? I would really like to continue with the program so if anyone has any info on how I can do the Purple Plan without the Lites and what comes after the Purple and at what point I switch I would greatly appreciate it. If you really believe, vent and post info that will help.

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Jennygiggle47 in Indiana

8 months ago

Karen skowronski in Willow Grove, Pennsylvania said: Is this Chris, Diane or Elaine?! LOL! Did you sleep with him too?! Why are you so "pro-VK"? Another FYI for you....there will be a tomorrow, it is closing Jan. 4th, if you would have read the previous posts. There will be a tomorrow for 20 more days.
And what kind of severance package are you going to get for being such a loyal employee? I heard the unemployment line is very long and promising. And what kind of language are you speaking? You must be just a counselor because at least upper management knew how to speak correctly. GED's only get you so far friend! Did you know that at McDonalds you can make $8 bucks an hour and get a free meal?! Bank on that sista!

Wow! You tell her! I had a few managers like her myself. I was loyal for over 3 years, and would have been there with my clients until the end if they hadn't squeezed me out in April of 2007. Good luck, and God bless to all clients and former employees who's world has been turned upside down by the closing.

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Jennygiggle47 in Indiana

8 months ago

Jennygiggle47 in Indiana said: You were in management and can't even type and use correct punctuation? Not surprising!!! I worked at LA WEIGHT LOSS for over 3 years and had several managers, area directors, and regional directors just like you with no heart and low intellect! Just to give you a head's up in case you haven't gone to file for unemployment yet, you will get a FRACTION of what you earned while you were still employed, especially if you were upper-level management and were raking in the money from all of the people you let go in the past year! If you are unmarried, a mother of young children, and were not in management or an hourly paid employee, then I will listen to your patronizing words. But I have a feeling that your paycheck wasn't the only paycheck in your household or you wouldn't talk to these people like they don't have a reason to be hurt! I haven't read ANYTHING saying that it wasn't a good program; that's why we are all so disappointed! We truly believed in what we were selling, both product and plan. I still do believe in it. But I have never believed in denigrating people I don't know anything about. I am 30 years old and have had 4 jobs in my entire life. Someone like you working for LA Weight Loss tried to cut my wages by 2 dollars per hour in April of 2007. I didn't take it, and it was a difficult decision for me because I didn't want to leave what I felt was my home and my family. So no, I won't just get over it. And I probably will cry. And there is nothing wrong with that when something bad happens that impacts your entire way of living. So go ahead and keep taking those bullets for VAHN!!! SOMEONE HAS TO, CAUSE THE CALVALRY IS COMING!!

This was to loyal employee in MA. Hateful old lady I bet!

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Jennygiggle47 in Indiana

8 months ago

bee-bop-aloo in Pennsylvania said: Kelli S ...how come you wont comment on stealing and not paying for product? how come you reply to each post except for those????hMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...Things that make you go HmmmmMMMM??????

How come? Really? And what's with all of the 80's and 90's references? Another upper-level member of management with lower-level intellect!

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Jennygiggle47 in Indiana

8 months ago

Shannon2534 D in N/A, New York said: I too was an employee with LA Weight Loss for 3 years. I left before the name change. I wasn't treated with the respect I deserved when leaving however I enjoyed my career with LA and it helped me to get where I am today. I am so happy that I was able to support so many people. I know several people that lost 80 or more pounds my time there. The cost of the program is expensive but worth the health benefits. I am sorry to hear that it is closing because there was many clients and employees and clients that I got started and developed relationships with. I am sorry to those that had a negative experience. Many of us really did care about the success of the clients. I wish you all the best. Hopefully you have all the knowledge you need to reach your dreams and goals.

That's right...many of us really did care about our clients, and it's sad that a few bad people had to ruin it for everone (employees and clients alike).

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HaveAGreat08 in Houston, Texas

8 months ago

yonkersbaby in Cold Spring, New Jersey said: HI Charl! Hope this helps! Here is a link to the Pure Weight Loss Refund Application Form: www.pureweightloss.com/RefundApp.pdf

I found it tonite among all the garbage on here. Very tiresome, indeed I agree.
I'm not sure how far we'll get with the refund LOL but I am going to send it anyhow. Certified mail! We'll see. I have already posted links to all the Attorneys General in the states - I'm going to search for that post and re-post it here for you. I wish you the best, & hope you get your refund.

As I said before, I am grateful to the staff and mgr at my center, which was in Northfield NJ. They were wonderful & very concerned. I loved them - they really helped me reach my goal. They were screwed as bad as the clients, if not more so. I do recognize that the morons who've been posting all this hate on here were probably the exception rather than the rule. I'll BRB with the info. Good luck Charl!

I tried typing in the above stated information in the Google search bar as well as trying to execute the link to be taken to the site for the refund application, I've had no luck. Do you think Pure Weight Loss took down the connection to the pdf?

Please advise. Thanks!

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Jennygiggle47 in Indiana

8 months ago

Sue Kane in Bear, Delaware said: I have made life long friends with my coworkers and previous supervisors and will continue to keep in touch with them. I will miss the day to day with them the most.

All of you who had bad experiences with supervisors, please don't let that cloud your vision of all the supervisors and upper management in the company. The expression "one bad apple don't spoil the bunch" is really appropriate in this situation.

I like what you say, but unfortunately that wasn't the case here. If we were all good employees--from divisional on down to counselor--maybe this company would have had a fighting chance. Don't get me wrong, I'm just as hurt as the next guy, I LOVED my job and worked there for more than 3 years.

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McMahan in Cincinnati, Ohio

8 months ago

You are full of crap! We worked ourselves to death under fear of losing our jobs! It is a despicable company, however, I met some wonderful people ( clients and fellow employees) and for that I am thankful. It is a shame that all of us had to endure the treatment that was put upon us.

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

McMahan in Cincinnati, Ohio said: You are full of crap! We worked ourselves to death under fear of losing our jobs! It is a despicable company, however, I met some wonderful people ( clients and fellow employees) and for that I am thankful. It is a shame that all of us had to endure the treatment that was put upon us.

AMEN!!!

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CG727 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

I used to work in corporate in the marketing dept a few years ago. All the horrible comments about VK are true. All of mgmt in corporate are scum. They only cared about themselves. They are also sexist, only hiring women in their depts and making degrading comments.

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yonkersbaby in Cold Spring, New Jersey

8 months ago

Hi [b] HaveaGreat08[/b]
tried typing in the above stated information in the Google search bar as well as trying to execute the link to be taken to the site for the refund application, I've had no luck. Do you think Pure Weight Loss took down the connection to the pdf?

Please advise. Thanks!

Hi Houston ! I tried the link again and still works (but I wouldn't put it past them to put it up & then take it down Bwah ha ha)

...try this - put the http:// in front of the link like this: www.pureweightloss.com/RefundApp.pdf

If you're in AOL sometimes the browser is screwy - just go directly thru Internet Explorer. Good Luck !

Oh - I just remembered . . .PS PDF files - you must have Adobe Reader on your computer to read 'em.

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yonkersbaby in Cold Spring, New Jersey

8 months ago

HaveAGreat08 in Houston, Texas said: I tried typing in the above stated information in the Google search bar as well as trying to execute the link to be taken to the site for the refund application, I've had no luck. Do you think Pure Weight Loss took down the connection to the pdf?

Please advise. Thanks!

Sorry...forgot to enclose the above reply to Houston in quote tags...
Good Luck Houston! :-)

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Smaxi in Sarver, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

Holly is right, you should help one another find new jobs. The time you are using posting comments could be put to better use by sending out your resume.

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Princess Laidoff in Upper Dublin, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

In case any of you have difficulty with final paycheck, etc., here is a link to the NLRB website (National Labor Relations Board)

www.nlrb.gov/Workplace_Rights/index.aspx

Also a link to the Wage and Hour Division of Dept of Labor

www.nlrb.gov/Workplace_Rights/index.aspx

Don't know who can help but I intend to research this. Most of my effort at this point however will be to put my resume together...Good luck everyone!

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

The Pennsylvania Attorney General's Office is investigating Pure Weight Loss Inc., which ceased operations last week, but says not to expect results any time soon.
"Consumer-protection investigations can be time-consuming," said Nils Frederiksen, deputy press secretary for the Attorney General's Office. "It's a lengthy process."

Frederiksen said Monday that his office had received hundreds of calls from customers of the Horsham-based diet company, which announced abruptly in December that it was closing Jan. 4. It has offered customers, who were required to buy diet food and counseling services in advance, little information about how to recoup their costs.

No one answered the company's toll-free number yesterday. A recording told customers to send a letter to the company's Horsham address. Pure Weight Loss' Web site lists several other diet companies that are offering discounts to Pure Weight Loss customers.

A company spokeswoman said Pure Weight Loss had nothing new to say about whether customers would receive products they ordered or refunds for counseling that did not take place. Customers were asked to fill out forms detailing what they were owed by Pure Weight Loss.

Frederiksen reiterated his advice to customers: File a formal complaint with the Attorney General's Office. That, he said, will help investigators figure out what is happening. The office is particularly interested in hearing from customers who signed up for the program recently or talked with sales representatives late last year. "We want to characterize how the products and services were being marketed at the very end," Frederiksen said.

He urged customers to move quickly to cancel credit card payments to the company, dispute payments, or call financing companies.

He said the lack of information from the company had been "certainly poor public relations" but not necessarily a sign of how customers would be treated going forward.

Cristy Williams, a spokeswoman for CareCredit,

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

which provided financing for some Pure Weight Loss customers, said customers would not have to continue making credit payments if they followed the company's dispute-resolution process. The number customers should call is on their CareCredit billing statement.

SEE PEOPLE IT IS HAPPENING THEY WILL GET WHAT THEY DESERVE. THIS ARTICLE WAS IN 01/09/08 PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER. YOU STILL HAVE TIME TO CONTACT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

It also does not surprise me that the PR they received was poor public relations. that is because their upper management is LESS THAN PAR, they are horrible!!!

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UNBELIEVALBE in Rockfall, Connecticut

8 months ago

karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: which provided financing for some Pure Weight Loss customers, said customers would not have to continue making credit payments if they followed the company's dispute-resolution process. The number customers should call is on their CareCredit billing statement.

SEE PEOPLE IT IS HAPPENING THEY WILL GET WHAT THEY DESERVE. THIS ARTICLE WAS IN 01/09/08 PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER. YOU STILL HAVE TIME TO CONTACT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

Do you think it will really help?

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

Plus they need to investiage the money they used to fund RAIN!!! I am contacting the attorney general about that!!!

Any other people who just signed up for PURE should contact the attorney general they need your feedback!!!

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

UNBELIEVALBE in Rockfall, Connecticut said: Do you think it will really help?

ANYTHING will help!!!!

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UNBELIEVALBE in Rockfall, Connecticut

8 months ago

karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: ANYTHING will help!!!!

OK Agreed!!

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

This is going to be a huge investigation!!

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haP2Bgone in youngstown, Ohio

8 months ago

Holly Allan in Indiana, Pennsylvania said: Adn at the risk of repeating myself, I must reiterate.....

We are salespeople, ladies. That is what we were hired to do. If you were an employee long enough, you know the products we sold worked, so what was the problem selling them? I don't feel that I ever underhandedly ripped anyone off.

What is "Adn?" And...we didn't rip people off, we just brow beat them until they gave in and bought

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

just got word to watch NBC10 if you live in Phila. today. there is a special on at 4 about LA/Pure. Should be interesting.

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bbird323 in Endicott, New York

8 months ago

I have one last thing to say and then I'm done. If you have the balls to get on line and talk this way about others then you should have the balls to put your real name up and let everyone see who you are! I thought that the trips to Vegas and Chicago had drama but I was truly wrong! This web site and everything that is being said is truly sad. I wish everyone luck in the future and hope that you are all happy with what ever you do!
-Bill Doyle!

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annabee in Elmont, New York

8 months ago

i don't know where i was, but i didn't realize something was up until saturday, january 5th, when i called my center and no one answered. i had a sinking feeling with the name change, obvious change in employee morale, etc. i'm sorry for all of you that lost your jobs. they certainly did not have anyone's interests but their own in consideration, how terribly sad.

putting that aside for a moment, i'd like to say that this method of losing weight worked for me when numerous other methods failed. it is a life change, not a diet, after all. thank you to all the counselors that helped me along (NHP center). i know that your heart was there, even when you were being overworked and exhausted. good luck to all of you in your job searches!

i do have a purple and a gold diary if anyone needs that info, feel free to ask. if anyone can offer advice on what to do once at goal weight for maintenance, i would really appreciate it.

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

bbird323 in Endicott, New York said: I have one last thing to say and then I'm done. If you have the balls to get on line and talk this way about others then you should have the balls to put your real name up and let everyone see who you are! I thought that the trips to Vegas and Chicago had drama but I was truly wrong! This web site and everything that is being said is truly sad. I wish everyone luck in the future and hope that you are all happy with what ever you do!
-Bill Doyle!

AMEN!!! those people only come here to throw people under the bus, pretty sad.

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

The thing that is also upsetting is that the news is only focusing on the clients. What about the employees who have NO COBRA insurance and only collect unemployment. They are hit just as hard or even worse than the clients.

It is a true shame!!!!!!!

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

And bill the ironic part is that there are only 2 people on here that would "take a bullet for Vahan" the rest have stated that there were problems with how the company was ran from upper management, lawsuits, excess firing, high turnover, and yet nothing was done to correct it but tell the counslors to sell sell sell. Nothing was ever corrected from the top!!!!

I just dont understand how these people (bee-dope and loyal) could be so rude to clients on here and also be so BLIND.....??????? classic case of denial it seems!!!!!! and we all know the truth.

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ex-trainer in Miami, Florida

8 months ago

Julie Jones in horsham, Pennsylvania said: Do you mind posting the different plans. I remember purple and yellow. Most people end up on yellow as they near their goal.

Purple: 2 proteins, 4 vegetables, 3 fruits, 2 starches, 1 dairy, 1 fat, 2 lites (protein size = 6 oz)
Yellow: 2 proteins, 3 vegetables, 3 fruites, 2 starches, 1 dairy, 1 fat, 2 lites (protein size = 4 oz)

But what should they replace the lite with?

they should up oe plan if on gold follow the purple plan etc.

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Heartbroken in Near Chicago, Illinois

8 months ago

Did anyone find out if Pure filed for bankruptcy or not?? How can we do that I wonder?

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Linda Raymond in NYC, New York

8 months ago

To find out if they filed for bankruptcy-----
www.bankruptcyinformation.com/PA.htm

or

www.bankruptcyinformation.com/PA.htm

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Heartbroken in Near Chicago, Illinois

8 months ago

did anyone follow thru w this yet?

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

i dont believe they did file yet.

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Heartbroken in Near Chicago, Illinois

8 months ago

According to this thing.. they haven't!

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Heartbroken in Near Chicago, Illinois

8 months ago

I wonder what they're waiting for??? to process all of the refunds first???

lol

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Linda Raymond in NYC, New York

8 months ago

I think they are waiting for the 8 weeks from the day they announced they were closing...

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

well it gives more time for people to contact the attorney general!!!

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

Linda the website you created i have to say is amazing and i wish people would use that one, but i noticed not many people transfered to it... Great job.

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Linda Raymond in NYC, New York

8 months ago

Thanks so much, I haven't been able to update it but I think it will be a good site in the future to notify people who were scammed by VK of his new ventures and for clients to support eachother...

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UNBELIEVALBE in Rockfall, Connecticut

8 months ago

Did anyone see the news? I am not in PA!!

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

UNBELIEVALBE in Rockfall, Connecticut said: Did anyone see the news? I am not in PA!!

it talked about the clients being out $$ and filling out a refund and also filing a complaint to the Attorney General. Then they discussed how to keep your weight off without counseling. Nothing about the employees.

That was basically it.....

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Cindy Wallace in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

Linda or Karma, what's the link again to Linda's other site? I missed it...

Thanks :)

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yonkersbaby in Cold Spring, New Jersey

8 months ago

FYI - got a letter from Better Business Bureau today & basically they said they cannot do anything b/c they company is "already out of business" (I filed complaint way before Pure closed).

Anyhow they (BBB) suggested contacting the PA Atty Gen'l office b/c they can STILL help. Thanks Karma for posting the Phila Inquirer article. It was interesting. Thee articel also said to contact the PA A.G. PLEASE - especially those who joined recently!

I agree - the employees are really hurting too, it's awful. The women at my center told me about the situation with COBRA (there is none) and they may not even get the correct amount of pay for the final few weeks. It stinks on ice. And it's likely that the employees will end up having to appear in court at some time to testify in this ongoing drama. Very likely, especially the center & regional managers.

Best of luck to all.

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yonkersbaby in Cold Spring, New Jersey

8 months ago

yonkersbaby in Cold Spring, New Jersey said: Thee articel QUOTE]

OMG Spellcheck! LOL I need hlep (help).

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Mad Consumer in Boynton Beach, Florida

8 months ago

I received a call back from the PA Attorney General's office this afternoon, they received my complaint and they want to help. I had to go back on their website and fill out a Health Care Complaint Form and sign a release in order for them to continue..I urge any and all clients and employees to file the complaints, they seem to be listening.

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

Mad Consumer in Boynton Beach, Florida said: I received a call back from the PA Attorney General's office this afternoon, they received my complaint and they want to help. I had to go back on their website and fill out a Health Care Complaint Form and sign a release in order for them to continue..I urge any and all clients and employees to file the complaints, they seem to be listening.

they have received over 400 complaints and counting. since they (Pure) did not file bankruptcy yet people can still file. Thanks all for your time in filing a complaint. Hopefully we will see justice!!!

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

8 months ago

www.pureweightloss.info/ Cindy is the website we were talking about. in the future i think it will be a great place to meet fellow disgruntled clients and get messages across.

THANKS LINDA!!!!!!!!!!

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