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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

someone special in Pennsylvania said: Dear Karma, I do not know you or at least I dont think I do, BUT you need to take a look at yourself...... you are literally on here every couple of minutes saying "I am done , I outta here " yet you come back every two seconds!!! Do you have a husband? Do you have children? Do you have a home to take care of? Where on earth do you find the time? Listen Im not trying to tell you what to do ,but, Its time for you to get back to your life ----if you have a new job focus on that before you get FIRED from there , too! Its painfully obvious that you are on here all throughout the day and night spewing venom becuase you were "laid off,or LET GO"or whatever.YOU have more posts than anybody if you just step away from your computer , you will again find joy in your life. Please just try it. Let it go, you will find a sense of relief and peace that you obviously need .In the words of someone extremely wise " Take care of whats in front of you....not whats behind you" I hope this helps.YOU CAN DO IT,KARMA, GROW UP

READ MY POSTS you sad excuse, i LEFT one my own since i knew the company was in peril. so wrong again. also ever hear of a mobile phone i dont have to be on a computer to update and i will stand up for myself and the other employees and clients who were taken advantage of and there UPFRONT money was taken from them.

Someone special, sounds very vain, take a look at yourself. ive taken back my life when i left that horrible place. so i have more posts, i believe in helping these people/clients who were screwed out of there hard earned money. so who do you support???? dont even bother answering i dont need your words.... and telling me to GROW up. maybe you should start with yourself.

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

terk182 in Virginia said: yes everything does happen for a reason. keep that in mind when you go spread your bitter,negative,cant get over it,poor me, VK didnt notice me boohoo karma on another site.
misery does love company.

im glad he didnt notice me, i didnt respect him one bit. nor am i sad he didnt know my name, that is why i left the company. he was a horrible president. and the company failing is what he got.

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terk182 in Virginia

10 months ago

karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: im glad he didnt notice me, i didnt respect him one bit. nor am i sad he didnt know my name, that is why i left the company. he was a horrible president. and the company failing is what he got.

But I wonder why the obession with a man you dont care about, didnt respect,and that you quit working for, who after you quit probably never noticed you were gone? I will have to consult my Psychology books to see what is really going on here.

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UNBELIEVALBE in Rockfall, Connecticut

10 months ago

They will never get it. That is the type of people they are, ex: selfish, self absorbed, greedy, uncaring..

Don't stop posting !!!

Have a great rest of the day !!!

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someone special in Pennsylvania

10 months ago

karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: READ MY POSTS you sad excuse, i LEFT one my own since i knew the company was in peril. so wrong again. also ever hear of a mobile phone i dont have to be on a computer to update and i will stand up for myself and the other employees and clients who were taken advantage of and there UPFRONT money was taken from them.

Someone special, sounds very vain, take a look at yourself. ive taken back my life when i left that horrible place. so i have more posts, i believe in helping these people/clients who were screwed out of there hard earned money. so who do you support???? dont even bother answering i dont need your words.... and telling me to GROW up. maybe you should start with yourself.

Dear Karma, I did read your post and in the one on a thread from "3 fat chicks" website you stated you were let go I am sorry YOU ARE A LIAR, but dont blame me for your lies....blame yourself PS I thought you were dont with this blog? Why are you back???? PLEASE STEP AWAY FROM YOUR COMPUTER and take care of your current life not your past life ...youll feel better!

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someone special in Pennsylvania

10 months ago

terk182 in Virginia said: yes everything does happen for a reason. keep that in mind when you go spread your bitter,negative,cant get over it,poor me, VK didnt notice me boohoo karma on another site.
misery does love company.

AMEN TERK182!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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someone special in Pennsylvania

10 months ago

karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: im glad he didnt notice me, i didnt respect him one bit. nor am i sad he didnt know my name, that is why i left the company. he was a horrible president. and the company failing is what he got.

YOU SAID YOU GOT CANNED dont lie = you didnt leave on your own accord..............................................face it

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Heartbroken in Near Chicago, Illinois

10 months ago

Okay ladies.. I've been reading these last messages.. well, reading them everyday I might add!! This last little bit is RIDICULOUS!!

I sit back without anger watching all of this unfold. I was one of the last one's going down with the ship. Mind you... STILL WITHOUT PAY!

Let me ask all of you a serious question? Have you ever known anyone to wake up one day and say to themself..."OH MY, my house is in foreclosure??" "Oh, well why?"

VK KNEW THIS COMPANY WAS GOING UNDER!!!!!!!!! Did he do anything to take the appropriate steps to be sure that everyone received their product? Did he let all of us know ahead of time so we could get our client's out the door on the right foot? NO! He sold stupid FREE 52 week programs that included bulking their lites and getting them out the door in 21 days... SHADY!

This closing could've been done so much better. It was about "his" money until the end. If he cared about employees and clients, VK would've planned this differently. Instead, get as much money in the doors (despite lying to employees/clients)as he could before he CLOSED THEM. It is so obvious now. All of you defending him need to wake up!!! If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... IT IS A DUCK!!

For the rest of us, employees and clients alike, get ahold of the PA ATTY. GENERAL yesterday!! There are employees stuck in leases in other states. Employees that were promised prosperity if they moved... There are clients who we, employees, sold 52 boxes of LA Lites to and they only received 10.. COME ON!! We need to stand together despite all the different opinions.

I am a very compassionate person and I feel for people who have lost their companies, but I feel for those who were honest in doing so!

Everyone have a great day.. good luck finding jobs and CALL THE ATTY GENERAL!!

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terk182 in Virginia

10 months ago

heartbroekn that is your opinion. And you are entitled to it. None of us know if VK new or didnt know.

And no I dont worry about my house being forclosed on because I bought a house I could afford and I have a saving account. Also please dont forget it is tax time people will get refunds. If your house is in forclosure I feel bad for you but your Finances
and the other ex-employees finances are not VK's Responsibility. We can also get unemployment. We can all get threw this and use the skills we learned at LA to get other jobs and move on.

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terk182 in Virginia

10 months ago

the company has already filed for Bankruptcy so calling the AG is a Moot point. FYI

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Heartbroken in Near Chicago, Illinois

10 months ago

TERK...

you missed the point...!!! HELLO.. Did anyone else misinterpret that statement???

No one's house is being forclosed on... WHAT I MEANT WAS........... VK new his business was going under.. (just like someone's house being foreclosed on) and continued to selllllllll programs he knew we wouldn't be able to follow thru with. .. HELLLO..

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terk182 in Virginia

10 months ago

Heartbroken in Near Chicago, Illinois said: TERK...

you missed the point...!!! HELLO.. Did anyone else misinterpret that statement???

No one's house is being forclosed on... WHAT I MEANT WAS........... VK new his business was going under.. (just like someone's house being foreclosed on) and continued to selllllllll programs he knew we wouldn't be able to follow thru with. .. HELLLO..

HELLO you dont know that to be a fact. that is your opinion.

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Heartbroken in Near Chicago, Illinois

10 months ago

common sense!!!!

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terk182 in Virginia

10 months ago

Heartbroken in Near Chicago, Illinois said: common sense!!!!

you dont have solid proof of anything so that is your opinion and you are entitled to it

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

heartbroken, i knew many people in the field and in corporate, they knew the company was going under for at least 6 months, the funds were depleting. These people dont care for anyone but themselves and thats that.

these people BELIEVE they know the truth, they dont even believe me when i said i left on my own, they keep thinking im someone else and if they knew they would be eating sand. the MASSIVE LAYOFFS at corporate were the red herring, the company was doing bad. they had 3 massive layoffs (starting last year, 06)at corporate and that was the beginning of the end...

Ding dong pure is dead. and they cant be obnoxious to people anymore since there is no company.

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

someone special in Pennsylvania said: Dear Karma, I did read your post and in the one on a thread from "3 fat chicks" website you stated you were let go I am sorry YOU ARE A LIAR, but dont blame me for your lies....blame yourself PS I thought you were dont with this blog? Why are you back???? PLEASE STEP AWAY FROM YOUR COMPUTER and take care of your current life not your past life ...youll feel better!

hey genious i never posted on 3 fat chicks, it doesnt take rocket science to know others feel the same way i do. I havent lied I LEFT ON MY OWN, why would i lie about that. ACCEPT IT i was smart to get out.

Again i am not on my computer i can afford a very expensive cell phone that my new company pays for, what you cant believe that i moved on and get paid more......jealous??

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

terk182 in Virginia said: you dont have solid proof of anything so that is your opinion and you are entitled to it

solid proof, what is this law an order its common sense, a company doesnt just declare chapter 7, they knew. These people are a joke.

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

terk182 in Virginia said: the company has already filed for Bankruptcy so calling the AG is a Moot point. FYI

not true, the attorney general can still be contacted and will be contacting people.

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thankgoditsover in Rochester, New York

10 months ago

Karma, you are great!!! These "special" people are special alright.

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

seenitall in King of Prussia, Pennsylvania said: You are so right Karma - we never had any meetings - EVER! Everything was so secreative. You never knew what was happening with the company until the last minute. As I said before - there were a lot of overpaid people at corporate that did not do much of anything. Vahan had no idea how to run the business - he was hardly in the office, along with several other VP's, who would be out of the office more than in the office, playing golf, showing up whenever they wanted, etc. How do you run a successful business when you aren't there overseeing what is going on? The company should have cut back on the BS stuff, such as Vegas, Bahamas, etc., and put the money towards proper training of field employees so they in turn could sell a good product to clients and maybe the company would not have gone bankrupt. Instead, we had annual conferneces that were more a huge party with people screwing around with each other, drunken escapades and trash talking about upper management.

hey terk what about this post, lemme guess this person got let go and is lying.....
EGG ON FACE????

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

thankgoditsover in Rochester, New York said: Karma, you are great!!! These "special" people are special alright.

as much as i try my cell phone keeps beeping with messages and i cant stop, im addicted and so happy the company finally went under, but again i feel VERY sorry for the employees and clients, but not these devoted employees who were probably getting "special" favors from vahan....

special alright!!! hahahahaha

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Cindy Wallace in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

anybody notice how bee dope and loyal in mass are both not on at the same time? makes me really think they are one and the same, lol

karma, don't let them get to you, you know the truth, that's all that matters.

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

Cindy Wallace in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: anybody notice how bee dope and loyal in mass are both not on at the same time? makes me really think they are one and the same, lol

karma, don't let them get to you, you know the truth, that's all that matters.

it just boggles my mind that these people are so one sided. not once did they say they feel sorry for the clients or the employees, they just sit on there unemployeed you know whats and put people down.

Cindy you worked in corporate right? did you know the company was headed for the bankrupcy court back then??? I DID..

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

what about all the news stories that said that Pure weight loss centers CLOSED BEFORE the last day JAN4th. and they left these people stranded. ohh they were running a good business so they closed there doors early, makes sense for a SCAMMER.

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

cindy i think loyal and bee dope changed there names to terk and some1special. they have to keep changing there names like LA and PURE....hahahahahahahah

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Cindy Wallace in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: it just boggles my mind that these people are so one sided. not once did they say they feel sorry for the clients or the employees, they just sit on there unemployeed you know whats and put people down.

Cindy you worked in corporate right? did you know the company was headed for the bankrupcy court back then??? I DID..

Right before I was set to come back from maternity leave, almost exactly a year ago today, I spoke with Nikki Fryer on the phone. And she told me that the company wasn't doing very good. That they just laid off a bunch of people in the field and that they had a hiring freeze. They weren't opening any new centers in 2007, and it didn't look good. So, they knew about it all back then. They could see it all coming and still sold programs and products to all those innocent clients, right up til the very end. It's pathetic, really. I feel so bad for the clients. Really I do. It's not right.

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Cindy Wallace in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: cindy i think loyal and bee dope changed there names to terk and some1special. they have to keep changing there names like LA and PURE....hahahahahahahah

LOL, HAHAHAHA, I think you're right!!!!

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thankgoditsover in Rochester, New York

10 months ago

Karma, how long did you work for the company? I saved everything I had that I thought was relevant if push came to shove. But left the company of course. Still have it all. I think "special" must have been HR since she obviously knows so much about people's lives. What do you think?

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kelli s in Williamsport, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: cindy i think loyal and bee dope changed there names to terk and some1special. they have to keep changing there names like LA and PURE....hahahahahahahah

She is an idiot, thinking if she changes her screen name nobody will figure her out. Has anyone noticed similar typos and the same ghetto talk?

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

thankgoditsover in Rochester, New York said: Karma, how long did you work for the company? I saved everything I had that I thought was relevant if push came to shove. But left the company of course. Still have it all. I think "special" must have been HR since she obviously knows so much about people's lives. What do you think?

i worked for them for 4 years. i love all the people i met while working there ( that was the only positive thing), except the people who mades others miserable.

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

seenitall in King of Prussia, Pennsylvania said: If "special" did work in HR - she was a saint to have worked under the stress of Nikki Fryer. As I said before I worked in corporate and thank god it wasn't in HR, but I saw all the crap that the employees had to deal with on a day to day basis. HR was supposed to be the department that any of us employees could go to, however it never happened because there were certain employees in HR that were unapproachable and negative and didn't want to be bothered. Again, the company failed because upper management didn't care at all. The priorities of the company were non-existent. I agree with you Cindy - I think the company knew that it was going out of business a long time ago and didn't care that they were going to screw over a lot of loyal employees. Instead they were looking out for themselves.

thanks for supporting me and the others that were violated by this company. Again i am thankful for the friendships i made and feel so sorry for the clients and employees, but at least they cant hurt people anymore and take advantage of them.

I just hope he doesnt do the same thing with a new business venture. we have to make sure that doesnt happen. i will try.

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

terk182 in Virginia said: HELLO you dont know that to be a fact. that is your opinion.

i hope the go after him for the money that was taken from these people. what is that saying the rich get richer. the attorney at my new company said that if they find foul play they can go after him personally for some "assets" that were taken in the last 180 days, oR MORE.... so we will see.

justice will be served. just like i knew the company was going down, i know justice will be served.

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UNBELIEVALBE in Rockfall, Connecticut

10 months ago

I truly hope so. He definitely deserves to feel the way he has made us and clients feel, thats a fact.
I also agree that no new ventures should happen for him and all these witches!!

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terk182 in Virginia

10 months ago

karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: i worked for them for 4 years. i love all the people i met while working there ( that was the only positive thing), except the people who mades others miserable.

karma werent you going to another web site...???? and done with this?

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terk182 in Virginia

10 months ago

karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: i hope the go after him for the money that was taken from these people. what is that saying the rich get richer. the attorney at my new company said that if they find foul play they can go after him personally for some "assets" that were taken in the last 180 days, oR MORE.... so we will see.

justice will be served. just like i knew the company was going down, i know justice will be served.

there was no foul play!!! just your abstract opinion

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terk182 in Virginia

10 months ago

UNBELIEVALBE in Rockfall, Connecticut said: I truly hope so. He definitely deserves to feel the way he has made us and clients feel, thats a fact.
I also agree that no new ventures should happen for him and all these witches!!

oh please you sound like a 45- 50yr old something counselor(aka.loser) who was never promo....because of your attiude and lack of brains

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

terk182 in Virginia said: karma werent you going to another web site...???? and done with this?

why are u even here.....isnt there anaa meeting your missing??

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kelli s in Williamsport, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

terk182 in Virginia said: oh please you sound like a 45- 50yr old something counselor(aka.loser) who was never promo....because of your attiude and lack of brains

You can change your screen name, but not the pig behind it. Change your nylons instead.

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

terk182 in Virginia said: oh please you sound like a 45- 50yr old something counselor(aka.loser) who was never promo....because of your attiude and lack of brains

is your whole life about making fun of others. pot kettle black. who cares her age...

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

kelli s in Williamsport, Pennsylvania said: You can change your screen name, but not the pig behind it. Change your nylons instead.

Kelli you rock... doesnt IT see that there is only one person on here that is negative why is she here???

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

seenitall in King of Prussia, Pennsylvania said: You are so right Karma - we never had any meetings - EVER! Everything was so secreative. You never knew what was happening with the company until the last minute. As I said before - there were a lot of overpaid people at corporate that did not do much of anything. Vahan had no idea how to run the business - he was hardly in the office, along with several other VP's, who would be out of the office more than in the office, playing golf, showing up whenever they wanted, etc. How do you run a successful business when you aren't there overseeing what is going on? The company should have cut back on the BS stuff, such as Vegas, Bahamas, etc., and put the money towards proper training of field employees so they in turn could sell a good product to clients and maybe the company would not have gone bankrupt. Instead, we had annual conferneces that were more a huge party with people screwing around with each other, drunken escapades and trash talking about upper management.

hey terk what about this post, lemme guess this person got let go and is lying.....
EGG ON FACE????

HEY TERK why didnt you respond to this person... no lemme add, she is an 40-50 yr old who wasnt promoted....

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

why is it terk, honestly, that you are so angry that people have there opinion and you put them down for it. go check your psychology books about that syndrome, i will do it for you, becuase you are lonely and dont have your HR, upper management people by your side??

you are a nothing.

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

terk you have been on here all afternoon, what no husband, no children, no LIFE, NO JOB..... how does it feel to be put down.

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

kelli im losing faith in the american people after meeting be dope, loyal, terk and some1special.

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

i think if the writers strike wasnt happening i wouldnt been on here as much, this takes the place of my tv shows..... hehe

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kelli s in Williamsport, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: Kelli you rock... doesnt IT see that there is only one person on here that is negative why is she here???

She just doesn't have counselors to degrade anymore. Funny, she thinks she can push people around from her computer. She wont push me, I dont work for them now, haven't for a while.

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kelli s in Williamsport, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: i think if the writers strike wasnt happening i wouldnt been on here as much, this takes the place of my tv shows..... hehe

Amen! but it is kinda fun seeing how rattled they are, still defending the slime to the end.

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

kelli s in Williamsport, Pennsylvania said: Amen! but it is kinda fun seeing how rattled they are, still defending the slime to the end.

totally true. they are just so negative and i cant understand why, i get they arent getting there overprices paycheck anymore, but i mean come on they tell me to let it go and they should be the ones letting go. i already have let go i just wanted to help people get in contact with attorney general and have some justice. i want to go to the bankruptcy hearing just to see his face.......

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: totally true. they are just so negative and i cant understand why, i get they arent getting there overprices paycheck anymore, but i mean come on they tell me to let it go and they should be the ones letting go. i already have let go i just wanted to help people get in contact with attorney general and have some justice. i want to go to the bankruptcy hearing just to see his face.......

SINCE TURK he DOESNT KNOW MY NAME SO HE PROBALBY DOESNT KNOW MY FACE....

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Catmaru in Buffalo, New York

10 months ago

Hey Terk....how can you defend this man/company after what has happened?? I consider myself lucky with the fact that i only lost 37 boxes of lites + my year of maintenance...b/c I keep reading of people that have lost thousands of dollars! How do you think any of this is fair? Seriously now! This company took our money and than did this...and i'm sorry you just don't decide one day "I think i'm gonna declare bankruptcy...there was obviously problems with this company's finances for quit sometime...and the fact that people signed up for this program a WEEK before they closed is just fraud on this company's part....if you PERSONALLY didn't have issues with this company than good for you...i'm glad you had a nice work environment for yourself...but these thousands of people who got screwed...you could at least show SOME compassion for them

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