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Linda Raymond in NYC, New York

10 months ago

I am helping my sister call the clients whom she gave her number to the last week at the center... Alot of clients have gained some weight back due to the stress of the situation and the holidays...I am advising them to start from the beginning in order to get back on track but I do not remember if they were supposed to use the fast forward drink when they were eating only proteins for the 2 days...can anybody let me know ...Thanks!

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kelli s in Williamsport, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

someone special in Pennsylvania said: I LOVE TERK! I LOVE TERK! I LOVE TERK!

Shut up Janice, I mean Bedope

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thankgoditsover in Rochester, New York

10 months ago

Special isn't Janice, whoever "outed" me(not that I was trying to hide my identity, like they are), I didn't know Janice. Didn't know anyone in PA unless it was a corporate person. Otherwise it was someone who used to be in the Roch market. Got a few good ideas of who it is.

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kelli s in Williamsport, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

thankgoditsover in Rochester, New York said: Special isn't Janice, whoever "outed" me(not that I was trying to hide my identity, like they are), I didn't know Janice. Didn't know anyone in PA unless it was a corporate person. Otherwise it was someone who used to be in the Roch market. Got a few good ideas of who it is.

Just because you dont know her, doesn't mean she didn't know of you. I'm very suspicious she is Bedope and I KNOW who she is.

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thankgoditsover in Rochester, New York

10 months ago

Heartbroken in Near Chicago, Illinois said: Terk.. dear listen..

It isn't about Vahan noticing someone. You are bringing that up over and over. You must be one that he did "notice". Keep in mind, the way it sounds... you were just one of many!!!

Leave Karma alone! Guess what? Pure is dead. Vahan, for now, is out of business so who cares who he noticed & who he didn't notice. THat is such irrelevant BS.

Bottom line.. company owned by VK has screwed both employees and clients alike.. so there is nothing to defend! Oh, and it isn't the first time either!

We are all here to be sure that it is the last time!

Great comment. Everyone who has defended him has never had anything solid to say about his affairs. And yes, there are many people who witnessed him with CB. Starting Orlando 2002. Pics, don't know. Didn't take any, just in my head what I saw. i did hear that others got pics later, other conferences.It really wouldn't matter except the company went down and took a lot of people's money with it. Vahan's personal life wouldn't matter if he and CB could have kept from just screwing each other and out of screwing the remaining employees and clients. what I saw was somewhat in the beginning of the whole thing. Again , what killed the company was greed, sell billions of boxes of bars and Trimax packages or whatever for free weeks and "hold" it for the client. I tried to tell people in the company what I thought, a few "Eons" ago. Come on be bop, loyal, special,go for it.

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GessickAhh in North Central, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

just to let you ALL know...Janice Frank has created multiple screen names to fit each one of her personalities....when someone special and terk and bebop all talk to each other its just the voices in her head.......have fun Janice...BTW were those client files your husband was carrying out of the house in boxes today or was he leaving "all" of you....or were those all of Jim Bowers bars that you were stealing and now your are having him ship them to the person who bought them on Ebay??? hmmmmmmm????

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kelli s in Williamsport, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

terk182 in Virginia said: you are correct VK didnt notice you

Terk, VK must have really noticed you a lot. Where is he now?

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GessickAhh in North Central, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

terk182 in Virginia said: you were not told on the last day to box up charts. we were told the week before. And if boexes did not arrive at our center we should take the 35 float and go buy them. My center was boxed up and we took them to the UPs store in the plaza with no probelms. we have 50 boxes all pre-paid.

was that 35 float for boxes or Dunkin Donuts coffee janice?

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GessickAhh in North Central, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

kelli s in Williamsport, Pennsylvania said: You can change your screen name, but not the pig behind it. Change your nylons instead.

haaaaahaaaaahaaaaa we can still see the pen marks!!!!!!

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kelli s in Williamsport, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

GessickAhh in North Central, Pennsylvania said: haaaaahaaaaahaaaaa we can still see the pen marks!!!!!!

And smell the odor!!

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GessickAhh in North Central, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

kelli s in Williamsport, Pennsylvania said: Yes, maybe we should contact Jim Bower and DL Strohman and tell them how much she siphoned off of their accounts to have "special" sales

hey let's meet up with Jim and RELISH the good times....sing like birds and give him her address....

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GessickAhh in North Central, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

toilet water and soap....hmmmm isn't that how the teenage mutant ninja turtles were formed?????? Hey they had a rat fang for a leader....lol

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kelli s in Williamsport, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

GessickAhh in North Central, Pennsylvania said: toilet water and soap....hmmmm isn't that how the teenage mutant ninja turtles were formed?????? Hey they had a rat fang for a leader....lol

Teenaged mutant ninja rat fang. Hollywood here I come1

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GessickAhh in North Central, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

oh this was too fun...good night!

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kelli s in Williamsport, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

GessickAhh in North Central, Pennsylvania said: oh this was too fun...good night!

Goodnight, I would still love to know who you and Karma are
so I could buy you both drinks!

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GessickAhh in North Central, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

well i'll set up a meet and greet with you....email me at spiritpique@yahoo g'night...

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Barb in Cleveland, Ohio

10 months ago

ramone said: I just read the comment about Pure filing bankruptcy.Is this insider info or does it come from a client? Is Pure making any promises about taking care of clients? I am wondering ,is Pure and LA
still connected? I am an employee and I was just told today my LA Weightloss center is closing and that all the clients will receive their product and refunds. Can anyone shed light here.I just don't know what went wrong. Thanks

Have you heard any replies about refunds?

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sadabouteverything in Philly, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

I haven't heard anything about refunds, but in the few weeks before we closed, we were giving clients refund forms to fill out. Did you complete a form, Barb? We were told that the refunds would take 6-8 weeks to process. I know that the company has filed chapter 7, and both LA and Pure are listed as names that the company has used, but the money is frozen at this point. I know because some of our checks have bounced. However, on the bankruptcy claim, liabilities are listed (I'm presuming that the liabilities are the monies owed to the clients). I believe it's true that bankruptcy claims legally have to be paid back, but I do not know what the time frame is for that type of repayment.

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ct624 in Wethersfield, Connecticut

10 months ago

I highly encourage ALL clients to read this story, or better yet, watch the video:

cbs4.com/consumer/la.weigh.loss.2.634681.html

It appears that in at least some centers, client records, including medical history, client account records, which include your care credit and/or credit card numbers, and ALL other information we took from you (your personal files) were tossed carelessly into dumpsters at the time of the closing. This is being investigated in Florida, as the careless use of financial information and records is a crime. They are warning against identity theft, etc., as your credit card and Care Credit information was NOT protected. Seriously, you clients NEED to contact your state attorney general about this!! DEMAND that you be told where you information was sent, or how it was disposed of. I know I will be contacting my former clients to make them aware of the situation.

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Catmaru in Buffalo, New York

10 months ago

Barb in Cleveland, Ohio said: Have you heard any replies about refunds?

because of the bankruptcy i doubt anyone will be getting a refund...if they can't even pay their employees...i'm sure the clients will get crap

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Catmaru in Buffalo, New York

10 months ago

ct624 in Wethersfield, Connecticut said: I highly encourage ALL clients to read this story, or better yet, watch the video:

cbs4.com/consumer/la.weigh.loss.2.634681.html

It appears that in at least some centers, client records, including medical history, client account records, which include your care credit and/or credit card numbers, and ALL other information we took from you (your personal files) were tossed carelessly into dumpsters at the time of the closing. This is being investigated in Florida, as the careless use of financial information and records is a crime. They are warning against identity theft, etc., as your credit card and Care Credit information was NOT protected. Seriously, you clients NEED to contact your state attorney general about this!! DEMAND that you be told where you information was sent, or how it was disposed of. I know I will be contacting my former clients to make them aware of the situation.

Well that's just wonderful...how much more can we get screwed?

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

ct624 in Wethersfield, Connecticut said: I highly encourage ALL clients to read this story, or better yet, watch the video:

cbs4.com/consumer/la.weigh.loss.2.634681.html

It appears that in at least some centers, client records, including medical history, client account records, which include your care credit and/or credit card numbers, and ALL other information we took from you (your personal files) were tossed carelessly into dumpsters at the time of the closing. This is being investigated in Florida, as the careless use of financial information and records is a crime. They are warning against identity theft, etc., as your credit card and Care Credit information was NOT protected. Seriously, you clients NEED to contact your state attorney general about this!! DEMAND that you be told where you information was sent, or how it was disposed of. I know I will be contacting my former clients to make them aware of the situation.

EXCELLENT INORMATION!!!! VERY INFORMATIVE!!! They will criminally prosecute for this if they find foul play, which i am sure they will. All these peoples credit card #'s and date of births and their social security numbers on the care credit applications. This could be huge!!!!

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ct624 in Wethersfield, Connecticut

10 months ago

I think this will be the thread that breaks the camels back....

I also urge all the employees who remember clients to try to get in contact with them and encourage them to contact their local attorney general, if for no reason other than the careless use of information.

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cannotreveal in Willow Grove, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

Karma ~ See post ...13 hours ago...

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Catmaru in Buffalo, New York

10 months ago

ct624 in Wethersfield, Connecticut said: I think this will be the thread that breaks the camels back....

I also urge all the employees who remember clients to try to get in contact with them and encourage them to contact their local attorney general, if for no reason other than the careless use of information.

Do we contact our local branch? In NY there isn't an on-line form that can be sent...it has to be printed and mailed...and what do we classify this as to complain.....I just want to take and do the right steps here

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Catmaru in Buffalo, New York

10 months ago

Hey where the heck is Terk to try and defend this s$%@!!!

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Catmaru in Buffalo, New York

10 months ago

www.oag.state.ny.us/ here is the NYS attorney general's web-site...it says there are on-line forms but i can't find them....and not sure which form to print to fill out

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ct624 in Wethersfield, Connecticut

10 months ago

Catmaru in Buffalo, New York said: Do we contact our local branch? In NY there isn't an on-line form that can be sent...it has to be printed and mailed...and what do we classify this as to complain.....I just want to take and do the right steps here

Contact that PA attorney general AND your local attorney general.

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Catmaru in Buffalo, New York

10 months ago

I also wish there was someone from one of the buffalo centers here....there was a new person in our center every week (that was back during the summer) so I don't even know who worked at my center anymore. I know one girl that worked there also worked for Total Tan...maybe i can track her down? At least to find out about our files

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terk182 in Virginia

10 months ago

hello all
Lets take a look at this Situation. shall we?? If the FL centers did discard thier charts in the dumpster that is on the employees in those centers, they chose to do so Not the company or VK. We were all told by email and/or phone by the upper managment to box up the charts and send them to the warehouse.
And just like Karma said a couple of blogs ago I couldnt possibly know what was going on in all the centers.... so neither could VK or upper management.

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Catmaru in Buffalo, New York

10 months ago

ct624 in Wethersfield, Connecticut said: Contact that PA attorney general AND your local attorney general.

I filled out the on-line form for the PA AG...but never heard from them. I'll try giving the local branch a call

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terk182 in Virginia

10 months ago

alice E how have you been???

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terk182 in Virginia

10 months ago

someone special in Pennsylvania said: Yeah, the Beatles broke up, too!!!! LOL ----sorry old news

good one!

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Heartbroken in Near Chicago, Illinois

10 months ago

terk182 in Virginia said: hello all
Lets take a look at this Situation. shall we?? If the FL centers did discard thier charts in the dumpster that is on the employees in those centers, they chose to do so Not the company or VK. We were all told by email and/or phone by the upper managment to box up the charts and send them to the warehouse.
And just like Karma said a couple of blogs ago I couldnt possibly know what was going on in all the centers.... so neither could VK or upper management.

Yes, not defending that center's folks at all, THERE COULD'VE BEEN A LOT BETTER PLANNING INVOLVED! Pure didn't really care! They would've started taking care of clients months ago... if that were the case!

When it came to Pure needing money, that sure went down the ranks QUICKLY!

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Catmaru in Buffalo, New York

10 months ago

terk182 in Virginia said: hello all
Lets take a look at this Situation. shall we?? If the FL centers did discard thier charts in the dumpster that is on the employees in those centers, they chose to do so Not the company or VK. We were all told by email and/or phone by the upper managment to box up the charts and send them to the warehouse.
And just like Karma said a couple of blogs ago I couldnt possibly know what was going on in all the centers.... so neither could VK or upper management.

Yes it was the employees...but guess what...the company is responsible for it's employees. If your in a department store...and an employee cleans the floor...soen't put up the "this area is wet sign"....a customer falls and breaks there leg....who gets sued...definatly not the employee....the store does...b/c the store is responsible for the employees. I've really had enough with you and all this defending BS....no one except your alter egos wants to listen to your crap anymore...so from now on i'm just ignoring your iganorant posts...and I hope everyone else does the same
LADIES IF WE DON"T PAY ATTENTION TO HER SHE WILL EVENTUALLY LEAVE

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Catmaru in Buffalo, New York

10 months ago

sorry for the typos...my fingers were going faster than my brain

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

cannotreveal in Willow Grove, Pennsylvania said: KARMA ~ Thank you for your kind words. Sounds like you knew my situation pretty well. I have been following this blog off and on. Can you give me a clue as to who you are? I'm not sure of the extent that I want to be involved.

i wont bring you up again and sorry to write the full name. i just felt so sorry for your situation and others that were abused the same.

I'd rather not say my identity right now. But you were great help to us in the centers with problems!!!!!!

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

Catmaru in Buffalo, New York said: Yes it was the employees...but guess what...the company is responsible for it's employees. If your in a department store...and an employee cleans the floor...soen't put up the "this area is wet sign"....a customer falls and breaks there leg....who gets sued...definatly not the employee....the store does...b/c the store is responsible for the employees. I've really had enough with you and all this defending BS....no one except your alter egos wants to listen to your crap anymore...so from now on i'm just ignoring your iganorant posts...and I hope everyone else does the same
LADIES IF WE DON"T PAY ATTENTION TO HER SHE WILL EVENTUALLY LEAVE

I AGREE 100% excellent analogy!!! Terk is dead to me.

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karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

Hope these addresses help. If we send enough requests to investigate perhaps we can expose this whole mess.

To submit a story idea to one of the ABC News shows listed below, write a single page letter including your name, phone number, and address. Include photocopies of backup information. On the outside of the envelope, write “Story Idea.” If a producer is interested in your story, he/she will contact you. Here are the show addresses:

20/20
147 Columbus Avenue
New York, NY 10023

Primetime
147 Columbus Avenue
New York, NY 10023

Nightline/This Week
1717 DeSales Street NW
Washington, DC 20036

World News With Charles Gibson
47 West 66th Street 2nd Floor
New York, NY 10023

Good Morning America
147 Columbus Avenue
New York, NY 10023

If you are submitting a Local news story:

-Go to ABC.com
-Go the very bottom of the screen and click on “LOCAL STATIONS”
-Follow the instructions on the map to find the local station e-mail, website, address and phone number.

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terk182 in Virginia

10 months ago

karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: I AGREE 100% excellent analogy!!! Terk is dead to me.[/QUOTE

man you are just a laugh riot.

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Linda Raymond in NYC, New York

10 months ago

How about we all IGNORE terk182, we are really just fueling this retard's comments.

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Heartbroken in Near Chicago, Illinois

10 months ago

got it!

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cannotreveal in Willow Grove, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

karma in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: i wont bring you up again and sorry to write the full name. i just felt so sorry for your situation and others that were abused the same.

I'd rather not say my identity right now. But you were great help to us in the centers with problems!!!!!!

Karma ~ No problem. You didn't say anything bad about me. You've been on here from the beginnig and know quite a bit. I just wonder who you are. Are you going to reveal your identity eventually? And again, thank you for your kind words.

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jill234 in Lansdale, Pennsylvania

10 months ago

Is that you Betti?

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ct624 in Wethersfield, Connecticut

10 months ago

Well if that is you Betti, I would agree that you were definitely quite helpful--one of the few at corporate that was!

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Heartbroken in Near Chicago, Illinois

10 months ago

Karma...

Got some information today.. Please everyone listen....

Seems a reporter from the Inquirer is trying to break this thing wide open.. She is wanting to try to expose this thing for what it really is. She needs stories from EVERYONE.
i.e. Employees who didn't get final paychecks and got crappy closing instructions, clients that bulked their 52 boxes of lites in November, clients who lost any money at all.....

HERE IS THE INFORMATION YOU'LL NEED:

EMAIL THIS LADY.. ASAP..

SHE NEEDS TO HEAR FROM AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE AND WE NEED TO MOVE FAST... VAHAN HAS FILED CHAPTER 7.. WHICH IS GOING TO MAKE IT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR ANYONE TO GET ANYTHING....

She has asked to put her name out there..

Stacey Burling @ sburling@phillynews.com
Contact her ASAP!!!

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movinon in OFallon, Illinois

10 months ago

Betti, If you are on this blog... email me at sassyfrass_62@yahoo.com. This is your buddy in the St. Louis Market.

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thankgoditsover in Rochester, New York

10 months ago

Tried to email Stacey Burling, the address didn't go through. Can you check on it?

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Heartbroken in Near Chicago, Illinois

10 months ago

hi all.. checking on that address for stacey burling

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Heartbroken in Near Chicago, Illinois

10 months ago

sburling@phillynews.com... that is what I have here. I emailed her also... waiting to see if it comes back on me.

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