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Still Strong in Fuquay Varina, North Carolina 63 months ago |
D-Man said: Yo Linda !! |
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s in Center Valley, Pennsylvania 63 months ago |
Staffing Manager said: As a staffing manager myself, I feel a sense of ultimate disgust with how the majority of whiners and complainers take out their own incompetencies (and unemployment) on everybody else but themself. I see a number of posts that have awful grammar, mispellings, curse words, and make no coheric sense whatsoever. It's no wonder your sour attitude doesn't get you anywhere (in life) to begin with.If your company is so darn great why do you keep posting jobs that people were placed in weeks ago? To make it look like you guys have great jobs available. I sometimes wonder if the jobs were ever open. Follow up? Your own dam company doesn't return emails or calls. |
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Linda in Austin in Austin, Texas 63 months ago |
Like some other posters have said I do believe this company has gone down hill in a big way in the last 10 years. I think many people have been in the job market for awhile and they know when something is a miss. Unfortunatly it is not only us that suffers but the employers who need help. I wish I had a dollar everytime I was sent on an assignment just to find it was nothing like I was told it would be. I know that this has happened to many people that I have worked with and by the sound of this blog it is happening nationwide. I certainly would not hire from this agency anymore and certainly would not invest in the company. They have a very messy business, which is clearly demonstrated by the comments on this blog. |
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Linda in Austin in Austin, Texas 63 months ago |
"increase your chances of getting permanently placed"
Great candidates that get placed immediately possess these traits:
BLACKLISTED? Interesting use of words, tell me how your clients would view your post? Do you think that you might be acting in someone elses best interest other than theirs? THANK THE INTERVIEWER? For what? They should be thanking me for taking my time to test and explore the positions they have available. IT SOUNDS TO ME THAT IT IS YOU WHO IS RUDE,SELF-ENTITLED AND ARROGANT. I worked for you guys about 10 years, I now have my own business and would not ever consider using this agency. I know many small business people who feel the same way because of the way they were treated by you. AGAIN I ASK WHAT DO YOU THINK YOUR CLIENTS WOULD THINK OF YOU IF THEY READ YOUR POST????? YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF A PROFESSIONAL? THINK AGAIN!! |
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karen-l in Saint Paul, Minnesota 63 months ago |
RJS said: Loved your absurd rant; especially the parts about poor grammar.BRAVO....Well said..nothing else need be added to this.... |
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D-Man in Austin, Texas 63 months ago |
You "hit the nail right on the head" with this Linda!! It's really rather sad ! |
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D-Man in Austin, Texas 63 months ago |
You're on a roll now, Linda! Let'r rip!! |
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Still Strong in Fuquay Varina, North Carolina 63 months ago |
Staffing manager said:
This person is such an absurd stupid, low intelligence JERK. Constantly saying that actions of the candidates are the reasons they get jobs and
Then recuiter is, "Well, sorry, that's how they interviewed with us. We'll find you another." I would LOVE to have one of these jokers try to do the job I'm excellent in for a month - THEN tell me how hard my job is, how I don't have a lick of intelligence and YES, THAT I NEED TO EARN WHAT I WORKED FOR. This recruiting manager is just stupid. |
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SJG in Dallas, Texas 63 months ago |
haha, Dean. Plant RH. ^5. Thats exactly how they sounded. As a matter of fact im totally disgusted that this person had little empathy for the worker. Umm, wondered when they are out of a job, and reality sets in that some folk just dont give a damm will they still be so defending then. |
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Chet in Newton Center, Massachusetts 62 months ago |
I think what we all have to remember is that RH recruiters do NOT work for us. They work for the companies who are their clients. We also have to remember that RH is a public company and, as such, is only responsible to their shareholders. Now all of this does not excuse the rudeness that most of us have encountered with RH staff but the sooner you come to grips with the above two facts the less angst you will have if and when you deal with RH or any recruiting firm. We are responsible for the success or failure of our own job searches. |
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Steve Dillon in Sun City Center, Florida 62 months ago |
Staffing Manager said: As a staffing manager myself, I feel a sense of ultimate disgust with how the majority of whiners and complainers take out their own incompetencies (and unemployment) on everybody else but themself. I see a number of posts that have awful grammar, mispellings, curse words, and make no coheric sense whatsoever. It's no wonder your sour attitude doesn't get you anywhere (in life) to begin with. Oh, listen to Mr. HigherThanThou How typical of this company.... |
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Steve Dillon in Sun City Center, Florida 62 months ago |
Linda in Austin said: "increase your chances of getting permanently placed" I have ONE word for this poster: AMEN! |
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Jamie in Waltham, Massachusetts 62 months ago |
I am a temp working currently working for Accountemps in the northeast and am trying desparately to get placed in a permanent job. I am very professional, have a B.S. degree, (recent graduate), and can't even get a return phone call back from the Robert Half Permanent recruiters. They spent so much time trying to get me in the Accountemps arena, and now that I am fed up and am demanding a permanent position; they have all disappeared. In addition to this, I have referred a number of my college friends in accounting to them; and none of them have even gotten an interview. Is this a sign of our economy going to crap? Or am I just wasting my time with what seems to be a wonderful recruiting agency, but in essessence is a true disappointment? |
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D-Man in Austin, Texas 62 months ago |
Jamie --
Former New Englander (Taunton) |
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Linda in Austin in Springdale, Arkansas 62 months ago |
No Jamie, read this blog, it is not you it is them! Hang in there. |
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Richard Rice in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 62 months ago |
Staffing Manager said: As a staffing manager myself, I feel a sense of ultimate disgust with how the majority of whiners and complainers take out their own incompetencies (and unemployment) on everybody else but themself. I see a number of posts that have awful grammar, mispellings, curse words, and make no coheric sense whatsoever. It's no wonder your sour attitude doesn't get you anywhere (in life) to begin with. GOOD COMMENT HOWEVER: YOU FORGOT TO ADD THAT IT IS USUALLY UNEMPLOYED OR NEW GRAD THAT KEEPS YOU GOING. GREAT I WILL TAKE MY BUSINESS ELSEWHERE, JUST BE PROFESSIONAL TO TELL ME THAT YOU CANNOT HELP AND DON'T KEEP ME AS A READY RESOURSE JUST IN CASE YOU MAY NEED ME. |
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Art Vandalay in Atlanta, Georgia 62 months ago |
ATTENTION WHINERS: Here is a great idea. With every post you make, attach your resume at the bottom. Then everyone can see and decide for themselves if you would be a good candidate to work with. Robert Half is a wonderful resource for the 10-20% of the population who are truly "fee eligible" individuals. These people come from good educational backgrounds with good GPA's, stable work history, reputable companies and can sell themselves. For these individuals, RHI can be a great resource. RHI can get these individuals in front of multiple hiring managers quickly because of the contacts they have built over the last 60 years. John Smith's resume may not look any different than the 2000 other people that apply through a company's HR department, but Robert Half can separate the top of the class and open the door to new opportunities that they never would have had open to them, had they not taken the 30 minutes of their day to sit down with a recruiter. Sorry to those of you that honestly feel that Robert Half is an employment agency. They are not. Their loyalty is to their clients, the companies that pay them for the best talent on the market. To find that talent, recruiters often have to sift through a lot of COMPITENT, LOYAL, HARDWORKING, DEDICATED individuals, but most companies are simply not willing to pay for an individual that falls into the "average to good" category. It's not a knock on those people who are GOOD employees. But honestly, no recruiting firm is magic. When you visit them, have your resume updated, shave, bathe, throw on a suit, take a Dale Carnegie course, whatever you need to do to make yourself stand out. Staffing firms evaluate you, thats why they bring you in. You need to sell yourself as the PEFECT person for any job, because if you don't, someone else will. If you want a hand out, take a trip down to the Georgia Department of Labor, where it's their job to find YOU a job. |
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Still Strong in Fuquay Varina, North Carolina 62 months ago |
Art Vandalay said: ATTENTION WHINERS: |
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Art Vandalay in Atlanta, Georgia 62 months ago |
Still Strong said:Art Vandalay said: ATTENTION WHINERS: |
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Art Vandalay in Atlanta, Georgia 62 months ago |
Still Strong said:Art Vandalay said: ATTENTION WHINERS: |
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Anon in Fuquay Varina, North Carolina 62 months ago |
Art Vandalay said: Where are you coming up with this response? I never used idiot or moron, never worked with Accountemps, and I knew their markup because I processed the invoices from RHI for MY hours. I wasn't processing all invoices. Do you read well? Art Said: "This is why about 30 of you that are trying to give RHI a bad name carry zero weight with me." You have no credibility, so don't worry that we even care what you think. As for the 30, there are forum posts from all over U.S. and they say the same thing, RHI, Officeteam, whichever branch you talk about - they are an unprofessional and offensive organization that cares nothing more than getting $$'s in their pocket. |
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Art Vandalay in Atlanta, Georgia 62 months ago |
Anon said: they are an unprofessional and offensive organization that cares nothing more than getting $$'s in their pocket. Again. RHI is a FOR PROFIT organization. An organization that prides itself on communication with its CLIENTS. Should recruiters be more upfront about expectations? Absolutely, and I won't disagree with that for a second. But when a qualified individual applies to 100 companies through HR and gets one or two calls, what do you call that? At least RHI has their ear to the ground for good opportunities for qualified individuals. And yet I hear not one person talk about how to be more effective in a job search, than through recruiters, just statements bashing RHI. As a person who watches the job market on a daily basis, and knows what it takes to be a $500,000/yr producer, (the 60 hour weeks, constant communication with clients and candidates, marketing, pressure, stress), and understand how it is impossible to reach that level without outlining CLEAR and ETHICAL expectations to clients and candidates alike, it offends ME personally when you blanket statement ALL recruiters as nothing better than used car salesmen. If I had a dollar for every time my PERSONAL CELL PHONE rang after hours, I would have retired by now. People who make blanket statements have an agenda, end of story. They are hypocrites, or angry, or are just flat out unhappy and want to bring others down with them. The truly honest, ethical and successful people suffer because YOU choose to stereotype a certain profession or company as worthless. |
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Anon in Fuquay Varina, North Carolina 62 months ago |
Art Vandalay said: Oh boo hoo. You have to work 60 hrs/wk and your cell phone rings after hours. Here's a hanky. As has been seen in over 100 posts, RHI and their affiliates MAY communicate with their clients. However, if you don't treat candidates better, they will go into jobs and not produce their best, therefore, the recruiter, YOUR COMPANY, and the candidate all lose out - because of the recruiter. With RHI, the negativity starts wtih the recruiter. Get over trying to get empathy for your long hours, etc. blah blah blah. Those of us who have been successful, have put in the same time and effort. So, don't "blanket" us as not working toward a good job. That just isn't true. Try many recruiter/agencies can find some good ones. ART SAID: At least RHI has their ear to the ground for good opportunities for qualified individuals. And yet I hear not one person talk about how to be more effective in a job search, than through recruiters, just statements bashing RHI. Yep - they're close to the ground alright, right with the other snakes. As for better job search, I've always said: update resume to current key words, use software name in conjunction with skill, have examples to back up your work, dress/speak the part, and be professional. Be assertive with follow ups and if you can't get someone by phone, go to the office. These are EFFECTIVE ways for job search. Recruiters are only one avenue. However, in a large city or with large companies, recruiters may be your only way in. RHI needs to treat potentials employees as people "first" before they see their $$'s - and all seven RHI recruiters that I've worked with never did. |
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Steve 62 months ago |
Staffing Manager in Sunnyvale, California said: As a staffing manager myself, I feel a sense of ultimate disgust with how the majority of whiners and complainers take out their own incompetencies (and unemployment) on everybody else but themself. I see a number of posts that have awful grammar, mispellings, curse words, and make no coheric sense whatsoever. It's no wonder your sour attitude doesn't get you anywhere (in life) to begin with. Your off base. RHI has many internal problems. When I did contract work with the company they used an outside party to pay me. The manager in Miami could not figure out how the system worked. I did not get a pay check for over a month. FU. |
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Linda in Austin in Austin, Texas 62 months ago |
ART IN GA: Your rant is very disturbing on many levels. You also have a few typos and you were the one who was criticizing others for typos? None of us are perfect Art, and neither are you!
Your rants say to me that we have hit a nerve. Instead of attacking us why not listen to our objections to your company and your business practices. That is what professionals do. TRY IT! PERHAPS IT WILL SET YOU APART IN THE BUSINESS WORLD AND YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE! |
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Daryl in Austin in Austin, Texas 62 months ago |
Great idea Linda! - and point well taken. |
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Art Vandalay in Atlanta, Georgia 62 months ago |
Linda in Austin in Austin, Texas said: ART IN GA: I haven't attacked anyone. Simply defended good recruiters. The other 423 posts have been blindly attacking RHI and recruiters in general with false claims about best practices, ethics and the like. I love when people think they know how the "system" works. I'm not an unemployment agency, I'm not a hand out. I don't sit at the kiddy table. Maybe the reason you are unemployed is because you victimize yourself at every opportunity. Stop taking a defeatist attitude and rubbing it off on hard working, employed individuals. |
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Linda in Austin in Austin, Texas 62 months ago |
Just go on telling yourself that Art, continue to try and convince anyone with the evidence against you. This company is on the skids and I think everybody (but you) knows why. This many people in so many places (all over the country) with the same complaints can't be wrong. This is a problem that you and other RH employees and execs better deal with because it will take you down! So go ahead, lick your wounds and lash out, but the problem is still there and it will take some time and a lot of work to fix it, so get busy Art-fix it!! That is what professionals do, overcome objection,deal with the problem head on. Deal with it, address the problem. |
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Linda in Austin in Austin, Texas 62 months ago |
OH PS I HAVE NOT WORKED FOR YOU IN A LONG TIME. I NOW HAVE MY OWN BUSINESS AND HAVE GOTTEN FURIOUS OVER YOUR PEOPLE HOUNDING ME FOR THEIR SERVICES. I WOULD NOT HIRE ANYONE FROM THIS COMPANY BECAUSE I KNOW HOW YOU TREAT THEM AND HOW YOU LIE! |
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Art Vandalay in Atlanta, Georgia 62 months ago |
Linda in Austin in Austin, Texas said: OH PS Linda. You are very angry. Maybe that's why you couldn't get a job and now are forced to be self employed. Again, lashing out to cover your own incompetencies. |
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'Linda Albright' in Maryland in Gaithersburg, Maryland 62 months ago |
COLLEGE GRADUATES DO NOT APPLY FOR ANY JOB IN RHI....PLEASE!!!!! |
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no one special in Boston, Massachusetts 62 months ago |
I have to dope slap both groups. Art, YOU may be an ethical recruiter that works hard for the clients and candidates, but in reality most recruiters do not treat candidates with respect. I have utilized three Boston area RH ofices as a candidate and one RH office as a client and I have to say I was not impressed. However I have to add that NO RECRUITER in the Boston area impressed me, and I have been to many. I would rather hear "Don't call me. I'll call you" than "Call me if you see something" if they have no intention of returning the call. As for you job seekers (and ME), RH doesn't work for you. They work for their clients (companies) who pay them. Please don't go to an RH office, or ANY recruiter's office, thinking they are going to be your friend. They are not our friends, mommies or anything else to us except that we are their raw material. I know we don't like hearing this but it is a fact. Until you understand this you will continue to be disappointed by RH and other recruiters. |
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R. Kaplan in College Grove, Tennessee 62 months ago |
Well your comments are interesting...just not truthful or supported by any facts. We are not talking competence here, accuracy of resumes or quality of the interview process. We are talking about professionalism and common courtesy. My experience with Robert Half shows a complete lack of professional conduct and a distinct deficiency in respect you show clients. In fact it is nonexistent. Just a few examples will serve to make my point. You call and advise that a wonderful opportunity is available. We discuss the position and you say an interview will be set up. Thereafter we never here from you….you don’t return phone calls or emails. Guess what if you want to treat clients this way…..we will go elsewhere…who needs representation from a firm that won’t even extend to the client common respect and courtesy? You big shots are all a bunch of losers…. |
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Art Vandalay in Atlanta, Georgia 61 months ago |
no one special in Boston, Massachusetts said: I have to dope slap both groups. You're making my point for me. Thank you. I don't work for my candidates, they don't pay me. The companies do. The most frustrating thing is when a GL Accountant comes to me and says "I am a GL Accountant making 50k and I want to be an analyst" and I have to respond "what do you want to make in your next job?" and they say "55k". There is zero comprehension that 90% of jobs are being worked by multiple recruiters, in multiple agencies, and that if I submit them for every job that they somewhat qualify for, they will be competing not only with my strong analysts, but analysts from other recruiters as well. Not only that but they want a raise for something that they have never done before. I'm not saying every RHI recuiter is perfect, nor am I saying they are all bad. I'm simply saying that the average recruiter is going to find a new job for 4-5 people per month, 48-60 people per year. Do they do it for the money? Sure, who wants to work for free? As you can see, it is a high pressure production environment. But like any sales team, they are expected to produce. But at the end of the year, a team of 5 people will help find 300 people a better opportunity, and Accountemps will provide income for thousands of individuals who aren't working. I'm not trying to make RHI sound like a charity, but I think everyone is being a bit harsh. |
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KKTG in Los Angeles, California 61 months ago |
Of course you would say that, because you are a recruiter. My questions to you it must be something wrong with all of us, who have had the same issues with the same company. Just to let you know, I have been in my field for over 25 years, and when I seek new employment on my own. I GET THE JOB. By the way I am educated, thank you very much!!!! |
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TG in Diamond Bar, California 60 months ago |
Attention Recruiters,
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Learning 101 in Pompano Beach, Florida 60 months ago |
Everyone here is right, I believed RH so I went to a professional resume and search company Haldane and Associates.
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Linda Albright in Maryland 60 months ago |
RHI has a recruiting staff in the DC/VA area called Janet...I think she tells lies and is very fake. Avoid her, inshort avoid ROBERT HAL INTERNATIONAL AND ITS SUBSIDARIES!!! |
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AMB in Washington, District of Columbia 60 months ago |
Art Vandalay in Atlanta, Georgia said: Linda. You are very angry. Maybe that's why you couldn't get a job and now are forced to be self employed. Again, lashing out to cover your own incompetencies. Dear Art Vandalay,
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AMB in Washington, District of Columbia 60 months ago |
Learning 101 in Pompano Beach, Florida said: Everyone here is right, I believed RH so I went to a professional resume and search company Haldane and Associates. I used Haldane once, and it's essentially a scam. Legal, mind you, for they re-write your resume and "train" you to interview. But look at the contract: They cannot guarantee a job to you so you might as well throw your money away at Great Expectations. Same deal. I truly wish you the best, though. |
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Too Bad So Sad in Pleasanton, California 60 months ago |
Jeremy in Easton, Pennsylvania said: To that Staffing Manager from California: I hope you feel real good about yourself, because there will be a day when I sue you and every damn recruiter out there from Robert Half and elsewhere for remarks like yours. It's people like you who have ruined my life and the lives of other laid off and unemployed workers in this country. One of these days, there WILL be hell for you to pay.[You don't have a job? Hmm let's imagine why? Is it because you spend time complaining on a job board instead of looking for jobs on that job board? Tell me this how did a recruiter ruin your life? I'll answer that one for you, you were laid off or fired and can't find work. You then enlisted a recruiter to help you find work but they didn't. Did you think about the fact that the recruiter had to sell to their client why you have a gap in employment? Take it one step further the gap was because they were fired, yeah that's an easy sell.] |
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Richard in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 60 months ago |
Cry me a River I was call on a Friday and changed my plans to support what was told me and on Monday I did even get a call. I am 55 years old and that is why I am not getting a position. For someone to treat someone with that disregard shows that they have no concept as to how to deal with people. All I hear from RHI is that you don't have this or that, and that is why I believe they only deal with an easy fit. I have ran projects from the Dayton Accords in Sarajevo to an ACB Project in Finland and the the RHI rep tells me that I cannot market myself as a Project Manager because I don't have a Project Manager Certificate. Please I have told them to remove me from their list and I am looking into other possible actions that may be available. |
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Linda in Gaithersburg, Maryland 60 months ago |
goodluck in all your job search |
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Peter in PA. in West Chester, Pennsylvania 60 months ago |
Your comments are a bit biased, as well as a generalization.
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Withheld in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 60 months ago |
I am a former Brach Manager for RHI. No one is treated with respect with in the organization. The candidates are mis-treated and judged unfairly. The rates we charged customers was rediculous and well above industry standard. If the recruiters and Branch Managers were treated with respect, and the company was less of a cut-troat business, then and only then would the candidates be treated the way they deserved to be. Fortunately as job seekers, there are plenty of Staffing Firms out there. PS...The average life span of an RHI Staffing Manager is under 6 months. |
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JSS in Texarkana 59 months ago |
Linda (you Sexy Lady): I was trying to express my thoughts about Robert Half in several hundred words that you were able to a in just a few. I couldn't agree more. James |
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Robert One-Half is half empty. in San Ramon, California 59 months ago |
I would say that the bottom line is rather that -First impression is everything with so many of Robert One-Half's clients, because so many of the jobs are beauty contests for low-level positions. -Grooming matters, but wearing a suit ("walking the dog") matters most for the low to mid-level jobs so characteristic of Robert One-Half's clients. -Doing your research about every company you are interviewing with would be greatly aided by The One-Halfers doing their homework: what's the job? why is the company looking to hire? what's the company's problem/opportunity? That is, telling an employer WHY they should hire you would be made straightforward if Robert One-Half did the most rudimentary part of its job. Instead, One-Halfers look stunned and slack-jawed when they are asked about an employer's deeper needs and most important priorities. MacDonald's order-takers have a higher level of consultative questioning skill. The One-Halfers capabilities with their clients are still are still at the level of, "would you like fries with that?" Yet they still expect candidates to answer the client's WHY question, though candidates are forced to operate from the most slender base of information. If the candidate continues to represent themselves and RHI well on assignments, they will build such a good track record, that they will be offered jobs at progressively lower and lower pay rates and the same or higher client bill rates, because the One-Halfers (particularly Big Max Messemer) know a compliant little monkey when they find one, and will ride it all the way to the bank. |
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Renee Wallace in Oakland, California 58 months ago |
Staffing Manager in Sunnyvale, California said: As a staffing manager myself, I feel a sense of ultimate disgust with how the majority of whiners and complainers take out their own incompetencies (and unemployment) on everybody else but themself. I see a number of posts that have awful grammar, mispellings, curse words, and make no coheric sense whatsoever. It's no wonder your sour attitude doesn't get you anywhere (in life) to begin with. I brought in over $750,000 in revenue for RHMR in late 1999 and 2000 from my own 9 month assignment (it was supposed to last 12 weeks) and 4 candidates I referred. Now RHMR will not give me the time of day! And yes, I have taken my business elsewhere! |
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A Lawyer in Barrington, Illinois 58 months ago |
Staffing Manager in Sunnyvale, California said: As a staffing manager myself, I feel a sense of ultimate disgust with how the majority of whiners and complainers take out their own incompetencies (and unemployment) on everybody else but themself. I see a number of posts that have awful grammar, mispellings, curse words, and make no coheric sense whatsoever. It's no wonder your sour attitude doesn't get you anywhere (in life) to begin with. Blacklisting? I believe that is against the law and opens you and your firm to a lawsuit. No wonder you didn't post your name! |
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Small Town near Big Town in Fuquay Varina, North Carolina 58 months ago |
A Lawyer in Barrington, Illinois said: Blacklisting? I believe that is against the law and opens you and your firm to a lawsuit. No wonder you didn't post your name! Staffing Manager in Sunnyvale, California said: As a staffing manager myself, I feel a sense of ultimate disgust with how the majority of whiners and complainers take out their own incompetencies (and unemployment) on everybody else but themself. PLEASE do not waste your time on this person from Sunnyvale. He/she/it is only going to RHI, etc forums to get people riled up. When you look at other forums, he has pumped himself all the way to having an Ivy League background, etc. This is only one profession he proclaims. First an employee, then staffing manaager, then works 80 hours per week. Don't even reply to his posts.
awful grammar, mispellings, curse words, and make no coheric sense whatsoever. Blah Blah Blah -
Don't encourage this ***. However, please visit and post comments on the Office Team, RHI, etc. forums. There are MANY and some folks are still going to RHI and their affiliates. |
