Are these recruiters lying?

Hello Everyone,

Please post all the tricks of the trade recruiters might try and run on you...

Thanks...

"They just had a hiring freeze, and they have to wait for the budget to be approved".

I never depended 100% on recruiters. I have found good jobs many different ways, networking, pounding the pavement (in the old days) , internet, unemployment office and Want ads. We're just comparing notes on one of those types.

By The Way, I just got a new job at a world-reknown hospital here in jacksonville. And I got it the old fashion way. Saw the ad on their website, applied, got a call a week later for an interview, got a call to offer me the job two weeks later...WITHOUT A ******* recruiter.

Recruiters are all the biggest liars on earth

So this new job open Help Desk Support Lead ...whats the chances of getting an interview with the actual company...not rht?

very little

What we all have to remember is that companies hire recruiters to go through the weeding out process. Once resumes of candidates are selected it is ultimately the company that decides whether or not you will receive an interview. Some recruiters are better that others in that they will follow up with you even if you didn't get the job. I usually send two (2) follow-ups ( 1 call and 1 email). If I get no response to either one, I add that recruiter to my DO NOT CALL list. And as an independent consultant I pass that information on to my colleagues. Blacklisting can work in your favor too. So having said all of this I agree with Floriday guy in Jacksonville. Recruiters are not the end all to be all. We still have to do everything in our own power arsenal to find the job we're looking for.

I've spent time with RHT over the last two job searches I've done. Each time, I've been told different stories which amount to the same thing. Its a variation on "we're waiting for the hiring manager to get unbusy so he can take a look". The first time, I finally decdied in my naive state that a month point 5 was probably too long and that the company was really not interested or had filled the position with another recruiter.

Here's a question though. You folks ever been approached by two different recruiters for the same job? This happened to me with a position with SBC. It was like two personal fouls in a football game. offsetting recruiters meant nothing came long for me :)

I'll not be sending resumes or going through the bull pen thing at rht again for a long time. I'm still searching; but I put more of a value on my time than going through their inventive BS.

My wife is re entering the work force after staying home with the kids. Our friend who has been placed by RH, and has used them to fill placements referred her to one guy at RH.

This guy was a TOTAL tool practically laughed her. She only contacted him because our friend referred her, and had reviewed her resume and though he could help. Total jerk.

3 things...

1)If a recruiter is telling you that they don't know, they don't know. Trust me, they would love to get rid of you if the answer is no.

2)Recruiters are hired by COMPANIES not by candidates. If a recruiter is not finding you a job it's because you are not in the top 10%. It is not their priority to FIND you a job you are not paying them the company is.

3)Why would it ever be negative to have multiple recruiters sharing your information? Their Search assignments come and go therefore it may be now and it may be a year from now before they have something that matches up. If you want feedback and jobs right now go to a temp agency.

I just went to an interview a month ago and the recruiter admitted she just put up a generic job description so she can keep people in her database. In fact, I missed a call for a real interview during those 2 hours. It was frustrating.

I'm a recruiter. I agree that there are a LOT of shady recruiters out there. It's frustrating to those of us who aren't. I will say that #1) Never DEPEND on a recruiter to find you a job. -that's not what we do. We talk to you so we can find out if one of our clients (who pay us) would be interested in your background. If you don't fit the mold with that client, there may be something else that comes up in the future that you are a good fit for.
#2) Use common sense when working with recruiters. -listen to the tone in their voice when you first speak. Do they sound genuine, or like a sales person/robot? DO NOT GIVE THEM YOUR RESUME!! Make them earn some trust before you give out your personal information. If they get your info off of a job board, then shame on you for putting all of your personal info on line for all to see. When submitting your resume online, remove your address, remove your current employer and replace with CONFIDENTIAL.

It's a shame that you even have to take these kinds of precausions but it's the world we live in.... it's not just recruiters who are shady... people in general are, no matter what their profession is. It's not bad to use a recruiter and some of us can be very helpful, but remember, we don't work for you, we work for the companies who pay us. I look at myself as a representative for my clients-just as if someone in Human Resources w/in that company were to call you to find out if the actual hiring manager wants an interview with you.

As for the reasons why you don't get through to the next round... some of those so called "lies" that are posted here, are actually what the HR department tells us. There's nothing else we can do in those situations. I know that a lot of recruiters do in fact lie, but not all of us make that a professional practice.

Bruce in NJ in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania said: My wife is re entering the work force after staying home with the kids. Our friend who has been placed by RH, and has used them to fill placements referred her to one guy at RH.

This guy was a TOTAL tool practically laughed her. She only contacted him because our friend referred her, and had reviewed her resume and though he could help. Total jerk.

Who cares? We on here need jobs and have no times for anything not helping us in this regard.

I take it a lot of you have never been a recruiter. It is understandable - you have no idea the dynamics of the position.

Process: Client calls us for an open position. We tell client that we will find the best candidates for the position. Client sees three resumes .. it may take client three days to review and three more to make a decision. We do NOT control the client. In the meantime we do offer your skills to another open order IF there is one open.

"Recruiters are the biggest liars." That makes me laugh. I will tell you this, you can't rely on ONE person or organization to find you a job. That is naive. Period. In EVERY one of my interviews, I tell my candidate that I would like to be your only source, but I suggest you look at many other opportunites if they are open with other sources. All I ever ask is that they call me back and let me know if they have acquired another job somewhere else so that I may stop the search for them in my office.

Reading these comments has been an eye-opener. My experience with the head-hunters has been very positive thus far as I've had numerous lucrative offers through head-hunters, but this is likely because I am VERY young relative to all other candidates for the positions I apply for.

Based on what I've read here, I took the precaution of removing my current employer and address information from my online resume.

The only fishy recent experience I had was with a recruiter seeking an experienced developer with my qualif. but the pay was 10K below my bottom line. They said the client was willing to come up to my bottom line, but then the recruiter came back saying "They feel you're too Jr. for this position." Talk about oxymoronic.

Some people above mentioned interviewing with recruiters on site??? This sounds totally whack to begin with! I'd never let a recruiter waste my time with an on site - either I'm qualified and the client wants to see me, or I'm not.

Thanks for the warnings, y'all!

To the software engineer - You obviously do sound very young. An employer usually will come up $10,000 to meet a salary requirement, but defenitely not if you are young and don't have a significant amount of industry experience. If you think you are "VERY" young than the employer probably thinks the exact same. And most recruiters of top level talent prefer to have face to face meetings or extensive phone interviews. Anyone can put together a resume, that doesn't mean you are qualified or a good match. There is a lot more too hiring than looking at a resume and a recruiter being payed large fees is going to live up to the fee and go far beyond looking at resumes and forwarding them to companies and wasting their time. If you are top of the line and understood hiring and the industry you wouldnt think it was a waste of time, but then again you are "VERY" young.

Quick passing the buck in Newington, Connecticut said: Here's one for you:

"If you've met w/ all of these recruiters and you've never been placed by one, you're probably not in the top 10% of unemployed people in your job market and should rely more on your own job search"

how about that!?

Good advise...

I can't believe how much poor grammar there is in this forum.

Perhaps you potential employees and current recruiters should all get together and discuss proper usage of - there, their, they're - and - then, than - and brushing up on - to/too - rules wouldn't hurt either.

It is always amusing to see someone call people out on grammar using improper grammar or punctuation. Perhaps you should join your aforementioned discussion and talk about the proper use of an en dash. Dashes do not seem to be the proper punctuation for your highly superior sentence.

Here is a link alls about them those dashes to help you get learned...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dash

Recruiters in general are being gutted by the Internet. Any company can post a listing and get hundreds of resumes just buy picking sites that are linked to others. The recruiting firms are desperate. Look how many are offering jobs (commission only)!

Justin in Topeka, Kansas said: It is always amusing to see someone call people out on grammar using improper grammar or punctuation. Perhaps you should join your aforementioned discussion and talk about the proper use of an en dash. Dashes do not seem to be the proper punctuation for your highly superior sentence.

Here is a link alls about them those dashes to help you get learned...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dash

"...highly superior sentence."

Hahaha...nuff said, Justin.

Git 'er done!!!

Robert Half is another recruiter mill. Yes, some of have good experiences and some have bad. I've had both, but recently have noticed that recruiters are mostly newbies or folks who don't care for 40 hour work weeks.

I challenge everyone here to try and contact their recruiter on Friday afternoon. If they answer, you have a winner. If not, you have a company filling office space.

As far as the Internet goes, watch it! Recruiters diguise ads so we don't know it's them. You find out that the same job is being posted by 10 recruiters. With regard to Half, they truly are almost criminal in their false assertations. Trust me, if they could fake credentials, they would.

I hope my grammar passes muster.

Glad to see others are as frustrated with RH as I am. What a bunch of losers. Had a junior recruiter from Santa Fe respond to my application. When he found I had already talked with the lackluster senior recruiter in Albuquerque he fearfully blurted out that the couldn't go against the senior recruiter. What is this? Satan's tier one minions have first pick of the soul harvest?

My husband also applied through them. He's very qualified and never got a call back. S'okay ...one of the big labs hired him soon enough.

Ex-RHI Recruiter in Knoxville, Tennessee said: I can't believe how much poor grammar there is in this forum.

Perhaps you potential employees and current recruiters should all get together and discuss proper usage of - there, their, they're - and - then, than - and brushing up on - to/too - rules wouldn't hurt either.

Communication is what matters most - while your grammar is not particular superior (as rightly pointed out by Justin) - so long as you can get your point across in a forum, it is ok.

It is only in formal communication like offer letters, press releases, project proposals where not only grammatical but syntactical and etymological accuracy is critical - or we will have the unfortunate situation of all discussions being "drug" out - *wink* *wink*!

Are my sentences correctly and grammatically accurately constructed, ex-RHI recruiter? And btw, was the "ex-" voluntary or forced on you? And was it for your mis-spelling 're-sign' as 'resign' as in "I am re-signing....."? 'Re-sign' is fyi incorrect English (as she is spoke in England), the correct form being 'sign again'.

Well, I can't say for certain that my not-too-bright recruiter was lying, however, I CAN tell you that the day after we met and the job I applied for was, "already filled", I received a call from another recruiter (different company) telling me that she wanted to submit my resume for the same position!

Now, at least ONE of them is lying.

Oh, yeah, and the RFT recruiter asked for the link to my site with my portfolio and tried to forward the link to her co-worker but instead, pressed the REPLY button and sent email back to me. Nevermind that the GENIUS was saying some pretty unflattering stuff about my work...TO ME! IDIOT! If you're going to talk trash about someone's work, AT LEAST have enough sense to DO IT CORRECTLY!

Yeah, so that's MY story. I'd stay away from them if I were you.

It is easy to bash an industry or company when you have not walked a day in their shoes. I applied for a job at RHT, went through the interview, was presented to the company and got the job. 3 years later, I went back to RHT and got another job. For the last 2 years, I have worked with RHT as both a recruiter and sales person. I can tell you after two years of recruiting in the IT field, and 10 years in the IT field, that IT people are lazy generally, when it comes to finding work.

If you are in IT and want a job, here is what you do. In one day you can meet and interview with the top 3-5 recruiters in your city, let them know not to present you to jobs without calling you first, then you just need to send them an email or phone call once a week. The rest of your time is spent applying for jobs directly, pounding the pavement, networking with your friends and relatives. If you have decent experience, skill, and are not socially retarded, you should find work in 2-3 weeks in todays market.

Yes 9 out of 10 IT folk will call a recruiter, then bug them 5-10 times a week about every job they post online, every position they talked about, and will maybe spend 1-2 hours sending their resume to a few jobs posted online. Believe it or not, companies do have hiring freezes, managers do go on vacation, or they get too busy to hire the people they need to become less busy. Welcome to the real world.

Recruiters are another way for you to have options, more resources to find what it is you are looking for. 90% of all people who interview with RHT never get placed. It isn't personal, you just don't fit anything they are working on right then. Companies pay them money to find what they are looking for. If you feel like dropping 25% of your base salary to pay a recruiter to find you a job, then it would seem like you have grounds to complain for sure.

X in Pleasanton, California said: It is easy to bash an industry or company when you have not walked a day in their shoes.

Yeah, here's the thing. I wasn't bashing an industry or company. I was bashing the idiot that I met who works for RHT.

And it's not even an issue of her not liking my work. Sure, some people will recognize it for what it is and others (who don't even know that DREAMWEAVER is part of the Macromedia Suite) will simply dismiss it as garbage. I'm fine with that. I understand her level of comprehension.

The part that hacks me off is that (PAY ATTENTION HERE)
1. They advertised a certain position.
2. I applied for said position.
3. She called me in to meet with me.
4. When I arrived, she told me said position had been filled.
5. The next day, a different recruiter (different company) called me about possibly interviewing for SAID POSITION.

As I said previously, SOMEONE is lying.

Oh, and guess what? The SAME position is now being advertised (new ad) on another site....listed by RHT and the same recruiter.

Go figure.

And before you go the route of "you didn't meet their qualifications"...blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I did...and then some.

If the girl couldn't figure out how to press REPLY instead of FORWARD, I suppose I can't expect her to figure out my work. And besides, <i>it's hard work remembering all those software titles!</i> :::pout:::

Thanks X. Melissa-Sometimes recruiters have heart and they aren't trained on how to tell someone that the company doesn't want to meet with them or that they aren't a fit for the company in a way that will not get them into trouble or bring drama from complaining people exemplified by you, so they take the easy way out and say that the position is filled. On the other hand do you know what company has the positions? If not how would you know that they aren't seperate positions? Don't use a recruiter if it's not working for you. No one should rely directly on 1 recruiter. And if you aren't in the top 10% a recruiter is never going to work for you, because they evaluate lots of candidates and present only the top few.

Quick passing the buck in Newington, Connecticut said: Here's one for you:

"If you've met w/ all of these recruiters and you've never been placed by one, you're probably not in the top 10% of unemployed people in your job market and should rely more on your own job search"

how about that!?

In review of your comments, it is obivious that your a recuriter,too. I have 4 degrees, and 28 years experince in my field and 10 years in a related field. I am a Viet Nam disabled combat vet and I have grey/white hair. This was a comment by the recuriters. Now considering that I am not in wheel chair, like so many of my friends, should I consider that comment discrimination, ADA violation, or what? I was never contacted again by that recuriter.

Ex-RHI Recruiter in Knoxville, Tennessee said: I can't believe how much poor grammar there is in this forum.

Perhaps you potential employees and current recruiters should all get together and discuss proper usage of - there, their, they're - and - then, than - and brushing up on - to/too - rules wouldn't hurt either.

Maybe you should show us your English MA, PHd or some other type of credential that would allow you the right to critic us here. I am a lawyer,an write for living, successfully.

Recruiter in Topeka, Kansas said: Thanks X. Melissa-Sometimes recruiters have heart and they aren't trained on how to tell someone that the company doesn't want to meet with them or that they aren't a fit for the company in a way that will not get them into trouble or bring drama from complaining people exemplified by you, so they take the easy way out and say that the position is filled. On the other hand do you know what company has the positions? If not how would you know that they aren't seperate positions? Don't use a recruiter if it's not working for you. No one should rely directly on 1 recruiter. And if you aren't in the top 10% a recruiter is never going to work for you, because they evaluate lots of candidates and present only the top few.

1. I wasn't "complaining" so much as I was telling the truth.
2. Yes, of course, I know the company who is hiring and no, they are not SEPARATE (correct spelling)positons.
3. I would NEVER rely on 1 person to assit me in anything.
4. I would hazard a guess that I'm in the top 10% but as I said, the woman cannot even figure out how EMAIL works, therefore, leaving her to figure out more complex ideas would be farcical.
5. Shouldn't you be trying to find jobs for people?

RHT are a bunch of buttholes. In the beginning they blow so much hot air up your behind you'd swear you've just hit it big with a great employment agency. Of course it goes without saying that one shouldn't put all one's eggs in one basket. However I HATE when people lie to me. I was told about opportunities in my area for IT positions and how I was the "excellent" candidate for them. But as time went on I found I was just strung along. This is just my oppinion but I'm sure many have been burned by these @holes. Want some good healthy advice? DITCH RHT, they're a complete WASTE of time!!!!

Melissa,

Since you claim to know the company, It goes without saying that you applied there directly. It must be a coincidence that the recruiter and the company made the same decision about not moving forward with you? Maybe the recruiter actually does know what the client is looking for. You might look good on paper, but anyone can beef up a resume, beyond that you must not have been a match.

And, your last statement is where the misconception is, we do not 'find people jobs'. We work for the company or client to evaluate as many potential candidates as possible and identify the top few candidates to fill their search needs. Finding a job is your part. Every person that we place, along with their family, is extremely grateful to us. Sometimes I will find a candidate and may never have a position for them, or I might have a position for them a year down the road. We work for the people who pay us. But what does it hurt for you to get your info and resume on file with recruiters? It doesn’t, because if something comes along you basically did nothing for them to find you a position. We would love to get every person we talk to an offer and change their lives, there is nothing better than the feeling you get when people add you to their prayers because you changed their lives.

Dear Recuriter,
The reason I know that your lying is that your mouth is moving, or in this case, your typing. Your statements are very self-serving. So do you have a degree in HR, a MA, Phd, JD, or just a HS or GED? My personal choice is you have a 2 yr Jr College education. There is nothing wrong with that in fact that is a good thing. The problem is that once those minimal level you suddenly think you know it all. I am in my mid 50s and still learn something every day, not just life experinces.
In clear view of your position it is difficult for a person to come to any recuriter, really needing a position, submit to all the BS that recuriters put out and then after an interview, the person NEVER, I repeat NEVER hears from that recuriter again. There is no feed back, "you don't have..."; you need....., NOTHING. Since my position is not unique from anyone elses it just infuriates me that a potential employer would have the "stupidity" to say some one is "over quailied". If you know your job better than the person doing it and they are usually part of the interview, feel threatened by well qualified persons. It is obvious that you feel secure in your position, but you shouldn't. You could be out today, down sizing, cutbacks, not enough production, outside your control or any number of other factors. Since foreclosures are up 55% since January. For all you know Mellissa may be a single mom, and starring at being homeless by Fri.... Instead of telling her how she needs to change her life and find a job, you should be willing to listen and direct her towards that success. It is my experience even already this morning, that an employer in Phx,who will be known by 17:00hrs today is not only discriminatory in their hiring practices, but incompetent in their HR people.

It is horrible if someone did say those discriminatory comments. I have a 4 year degree and love my job. It is very wrong of you to accuse me of being uneducated because of the profession I am in. It is horrible for you to attack someone in that way, especially when you know first-hand what it is like when people make assumptions or stereotypes towards an entire group of people. It makes you no better than the person who made generalizations towards you. When people attack recruiters because they don't understand the nature of what they do then I go to defending us. If someone is in desperate need of a position in order to not lose a home, my recommendation is that a recruiter may not be the appropriate direction. A temp agency would probably be more suitable. I'm sure that there are bad recruiters out there, but there are bad people everywhere. That doesn't justify bashing a whole profession. As I said, I put smiles on many people’s faces every day. Those that I don't place I offer solutions, resume advice, and direction. Just as someone has stereotyped and upset you, please don't bash a whole profession, please that is all I am asking. I provide feedback and help to those who request it. I convince companies to hire people who they perceive as unqualified because I feel that they deserve a chance. In fact it happens all of the time. It should occur to you that the companies not the recruiters are the ones making the decisions and hiring. We can career council, but that doesn't mean we can do it all day long. I am willing to help anyone with advice.

Oh my God, a recuriter with a heart. The problem is that since most of the ones that we [collectively] have been exposed to are without integrity. There is now way to even determine if the recuriter even sent your CV to a company. Let me ask you a question. I have 28 yrs in the building industry 18 plus as COO, Sr. Project Mgr. years of self employment. I also have a JD, and practiced for 10yrs in all phases. What or how is that "over qualified". This is a term that is beyond my understanding, completely.
I have a Commercial Residential lic pending, [$3500.00 fee and no project to support it] Would you say that contacting my references, which are outstanding would allow most recuriters to sell that to an employer? I have great references, but I am over 50. As my old boss says: "you forgot more than most know.."

I don't think that there is any less integrity than there is in construction, manufacturing, politics or any other industry. I think in recruiting lots of young recruiters are rushed into making 80 calls a day and not practiced on responding to the individuals they don't work with. Let me pose a question - in sending a resume to directly to a company only about 5-10% of individuals get a response AT ALL. So why is it that a recruiter calling to feel out a candidate instead of ignoring them all together is so bad? At least you are getting a chance. I definitely agree that recruiters need to learn how to send someone in the right direction if they aren't going to work with them, however, since you have been an employer in the past, you should know that there is not enough time in the day to talk and guide every person that sends you a resume or you interview with. ‘Over Qualified’ is a tough term because I have had a company seriously tell me many times that a candidate was over qualified and that they were afraid the individual would not be challenged and did not want to invest in bringing someone in with a high risk of leaving in a couple years. References are definitely a great way to sell yourself. I would say apply directly to some companies or find a recruiter that you connect with and dig a little to get some suggestions on resumes and interviewing. Companies are advancing technologically and look for different things than they did 28 years ago, so maybe they are looking for something specific and the recruiter you dealt with didn't take the time to tell you. You probably have what they are looking for but didn't connect because you weren't really committed to developing a trust and they sensed that. Just from what you write it feels as though you act superior to recruiters. They are people too and people with a lot of control to talk you up or talk up the other guy who wasn’t condescending to them.

Why does everything with you people have to revolve around prayers??
You are not the gods of employment nor do we believe we must add you to a prayer nor do we praY....
IF WE WOULD you can believe we pray hard for getting rid of recruiters

Recruiter in Topeka, Kansas said: Melissa,

Since you claim to know the company, It goes without saying that you applied there directly. It must be a coincidence that the recruiter and the company made the same decision about not moving forward with you? Maybe the recruiter actually does know what the client is looking for. You might look good on paper, but anyone can beef up a resume, beyond that you must not have been a match.

And, your last statement is where the misconception is, we do not 'find people jobs'. We work for the company or client to evaluate as many potential candidates as possible and identify the top few candidates to fill their search needs. Finding a job is your part. Every person that we place, along with their family, is extremely grateful to us. Sometimes I will find a candidate and may never have a position for them, or I might have a position for them a year down the road. We work for the people who pay us. But what does it hurt for you to get your info and resume on file with recruiters? It doesn’t, because if something comes along you basically did nothing for them to find you a position. We would love to get every person we talk to an offer and change their lives, there is nothing better than the feeling you get when people add you to their prayers because you changed their lives.

Hi all,

While I commisserate with all who are searching for jobs (and my good luck wishes to all), personally, I like to read all these comments about Robert Half Technologies folks because when I get contacted any one from that organization, I ask them for an email request and respond with a link to this discussion asking them, "I would like to interact with them only I hear their comments about this discussion.".

I never hear back .. obviously!

Alive - it is rediculous to hear people like you to find negative in anything, you are just blogging to complain. I'm not preaching about praying, i don't share their beliefs, I was conveiying their happy responses. Just because they said they would pray for me I didn't turn around and say to them no thanks that doesn't match my beliefs. But you sound just like someone who would turn it into a religious debate. Last i saw this was an employment blog. What is it with some of you people. I can't imagine how miserable someone must be to go around complaining like that. I don't need your prayers, I do more than fine without them.

And you never will

I give up. Seriously people. This is a waste of time. I AM AGREEING AND OFFERING HELP AND ADVICE, and you turn around and respond like that? Some of you need MAJOR help-I can see now why these recruiters aren't working with you. Someone is here trying to help and is asking questions and trying to offer advice and understand where you are coming from, yet you still respond negatively. You sure don't act experienced and mature. Blame, that is all it is with you. You need to stop looking to blame someone or something else for everything in your life. Take a long hard look at yourself. Most of you should seek a therapist not a recruiter. Seriously.

to all you who complain about recruiters - when you PAY for my service, you can dictate how I work. my clients pay for my service - to you it's free. if RHT doesn't place you, perhaps you should look at yourself and not blame others. what did you score on your skills test? i'm betting it wasn't very good. if you had scored high, you'd be working, not complaining.

Since your perspective is completely malignent, you would be great fun for someone like me. I suggest that you find a dictionary and look up the term "fiduciary" since it would appear that you have no concept of the term. You live in grey area, because once you get control of a position, there are no "checks or balances" except legal remedies, to make sure that you have put all the canidates in front of that potiential employer. In simple terms "price fixing" at a different level. Since I am in a unique position, of being an attorney I can see just how people like you manipulate the out come of any qualifed person over another. Most of the people on this forum can not afford to litigate your practices, which is unfortunate, but that is another story for another time. It is unconscionable, and many other adjectives, for you to be in such a position with that power, and complete disregard for the truth, ethics, and your fiduciary duty not only to the employer, but the people you contact, and then with any communications abandoned. That is what makes you a target and your conduct so despicable.

Since your perspective is completely malignent, you would be great fun for someone like me. I suggest that you find a dictionary and look up the term "fiduciary" since it would appear that you have no concept of the term. You live in grey area, because once you get control of a position, there are no "checks or balances" except legal remedies, to make sure that you have put all the canidates in front of that potiential employer. In simple terms "price fixing" at a different level. Since I am in a unique position, of being an attorney I can see just how people like you manipulate the out come of any qualifed person over another. Most of the people on this forum can not afford to litigate your practices, which is unfortunate, but that is another story for another time. It is unconscionable, and many other adjectives, for you to be in such a position with that power, and complete disregard for the truth, ethics, and your fiduciary duty not only to the employer, but the people you contact, and then with any communications abandoned. That is what makes you a target and your conduct so despicable.

Wow! An attorney calling a recruiter MALIGNANT! That is probably the most hypocritical statement that i have seen on this entire forum. ANY employer is fiduciary, not just a recruiter! Impressive big words though! And as an attorney you are more than well aware that anyone discriminated against by an employer in no way needs any sort of funds what so ever, to litigate. Stop distorting the truth.

Bob,

28 years in your industry, 4 degrees, a JD, a war veteran, COO and PM experience, etc. I can see why they asked you to come in, as you probably look good on paper, but RHT would be hard pressed to find a company they would be willing to present you to, assuming this level of arrogance came out in your interview.

When you called the recruiter an uneducated "kid", told him/her that you deserved RESPECT, and then rambled on about your degrees and past work experience for probably the 4th time, did you expect that recruiter to mumble at the floor a thousand apologies and ask you to pick any job in the world? Personally, I feel like that RHT dodged a bullet by not representing you.

Let the Bob retaliation begin (attacking my education, spelling/grammar, age, non-war-vet status, anything but the issues)

To anyone else: RHT sends out a survey to every candidate, and to every client when an assignment is complete that asks about 10 different areas of our performance. We currently score about 90% as "extremely satisfied" overall and willing to refer or recommend us to other companies/friends. I'm sure we would like to get that number to 100%, and we are trying, so give us a break.

Call me curious, but I find it interesting the not one but two (2) recuriters have the time to surf the net and respond to emails. None of which will support "new clients" on this forum. On the national news, a study reported that employees, spend 17 hours a week on the net for their OWN intersts. By spending time on this forum, how many hours have you [collectively] embezzeled/stolen from clients and employers? This is directed at the recuriters,in Topeka KS, and of course lets not leave out the RHT recuriter in Pleasanton Ca. In view of the fact that both of these recuriters have enough time to Steal time from their respective employer, frankly I am confused, the recuriters claim diligence, competence,and truthfulness, yet steal time from their employers by being on the net, supporting the findings of the national survey....go figure.

I have never let RHT represent me, and for cause. The person that contacted me, was completely incompetent. After my 20 minute interview and all the tack of a used car saleman it was over. I told them thanks but no thanks. Do you see a pattern here? I can understand the reason for most of these peoples frustration. These recuriters continued rationalize their undefendable position. I simply can not globize, there are some people that work there who must be competent, but I have not had that experience and it seems that I am not alone.

As for my alleged arrogance, I simply call a spade a spade. I find arrogance refreshing at times. Trial lawyers make things "right" with arrogance. The truth is an absolute defense.

Recruiter in Topeka, Kansas said: Melissa,

Since you claim to know the company, It goes without saying that you applied there directly. It must be a coincidence that the recruiter and the company made the same decision about not moving forward with you? Maybe the recruiter actually does know what the client is looking for. You might look good on paper, but anyone can beef up a resume, beyond that you must not have been a match.
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This is the last time I'll respond to you, as you've become a bore.

I'll be a plain as I possibly can.

1. I did NOT apply to the company directly.

2. My RHT recruiter NAMED them when we met, only to say the position had been filled.

3. The second recruiter (another company) contacted me and NAMED the company while asking to submit my resume.

4. My resume is what it is...an account of what my accomplishments are and my skill set.

5. Again, I will reiterate, the recruiter could not figure out how email works (ie: reply vs. forward), therefore, I do not expect her to know good technical/design work when she views it.

You simply cannot dispute the facts I have presented.