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Perhaps that is takes more than spelling and grammar to be employable. Besides the fact that I do have atrocious spelling,I also have a first class degree from Cambridge and I am bashing out an answer on a forum rather than submitting a dissertaion or writing a formal letter. look, I don't want to argue with you and I appreciate that you have had bad experiences and I do sympathise with you and believe me, it annoys me more than you when these headhunters are unscrupulous as it gives the whole industry a bad name, but somebody does get the job that you don't and they are usually quite happy and grateful for the help that they are given in the end. If you would like to let me know the names and positions of any RHI headhunters who have given you a bad service, I would be happy to follow up with them and discuss their behaviour. Besides, many legal headhunters are also Lawyers.

Cambrige is a University in England. It is debatably the best Universtiy in the world.

They always do...and always loose.

Displaced Legal Professional in Arvada, Colorado said: pedrotheant in Toronto, Ontario:

I thought you were in Pleasanton, California. What is a first class degree from Cambridge?

You have "caught" Pleasanton AGAIN. This person repeatedly supports any and all RHI groups and divisions. Once an employee, then long time employee, then recruiter, etc. etc. According to another responder, RHI has a major office in Pleasanton. At one time, this person became quite belligerent - to the point, his/her posts were deleted by the host.

I have to laugh, quite loudly, that he/she has a degree from Cambridge. If that's true, I'm the Queen and invite him/her to tea next Wed. @ 3 PM sharp - that's London time.

Pleasanton: Get off your thrown so people can have REAL responses. Also, if your spelling is so bad, ever heard of checking your message in MS Word first?

Why wouldn't a cambridge graduate work in recruitment? Because you have a low opinion of it you find it so amazing.? I have a client facing role and i deal with new people every day. I help pepole get the jobs they want and I coach and train them to succeed in interviews when their confidence and belief in themseves is low. I keep my own hours and train and run teams based on ethics in an industry that often takes advantage of young graduates and turn them into unethical salespeople. I also get paid very well for it, so why would I not want to work in recruitment? I have never had posts deleted. I live in Toronto and I have no idea why it registers me in Pleasonton California or why my status changes, but I appreciate your evident belief that it is some sort of 'headhunter' conspiracy.I have never even been to pleasonton and I don't know where it is. Of course I reply to all sweeping generalisations about the recruitment industry and support all groups you clown, because i work in the recruitment industry and whilst I appreciate that some headhunters should be brought to call, not all are like that. I take my tea with milk and 2 sugars, preferably Earl Gray and if you have had an issue with a headhunter, give me their name/office and I will speak to them.

Professionally Speaking in Fuquay Varina, North Carolina said: Before I go forward with pursuing any job, I think I have a right to know who the company is. This submitting my resume to a company without me knowing who the company is - is degrading adn disrespectful to me. Also,would be a waste of time and effort for all concerned if I don't want to work with that company. For two companies, I have been told I was great candidate for the position and I would be told if I was selected. However, I found out that one company is a place I had left over a year ago before the layoffs - of 6 admins. The other company turned out to be a 65 mile commute - the recruiter had not even considered my travel time.
I have every reason to turn down "an opportunity" before committing the time. It is the recruiters responsibility to be as honest and up front as they can be, not push someone into a position.

There is absolutely no doubt that this is bad practice and I have NEVER said you should allow a recruiter to submit your resume to companies when you don't know who they are. Surely that is just common sense??!?! I would expect to be fired for this practice and I would complain to the recruiter's director AND the company in question that they are submitting your details without permission. Have you done this? Did you complain to the company? what happened?

Displaced Legal Professional in Arvada, Colorado said: Good comments, though I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt about Cambridge. Just the same, why would a Cambridge graduate be working as a headhunter? With a degree from Cambridge, a person can just about write his/her own ticket and not have to work at such low level employment.

Actually, with all due respect, don't you mean "throne"? ;)

I should also mention that I decided to be a headhunter after being headhunted. I left Cambridge and joined Deutschebank in London on the M&A graduate programme. After 2 years in London I moved to New York on the Consumer products desk where i was working approximately 19 hours a day and sometimes only left the office over the course of a week to go home and get changed. I had no friends and no life outside of work and internally my team was exceptionally agressive and I continually saw people getting screwed over left and right. I was headhunted by a guy I found to be very professional and helpful and we became friends. I interviewed in rival teams over the next 2 months in London and New York and my headhunter actually advsed me to turn down an offer he had gotten me at another bank because he had heard through someone else that the team was doing badly. I turned down the offer and a month later the team in question was disbanded after the vp and 4 associates moved to a rival bank. I then decided that I actually wanted to be a headhunter. I have been doing it for 4 years, I usually only deal with candidates who have be referred to me by other candidates and as that is the bulk of my business I must be doing SOMETHING right. I sleep very well at night as well thanyou very much... Now, about that cup of tea....

So you are annoyed with these headhunters and so ALL headhunters are bad? Again, you stipulate that I should have gotten something betetr than headhunting, but that is based on YOUR opinion of headhunters not the actual reality of all headhunters. I only work on roles where the base salary is above $250,000 up to $1million plus a year and make better money than many of my graduating class. Witht this I have been able to buy my house and will be in a situation where i can write books full time before i am 40. On the contrary I know 2 Harvard grads. One works in M&A, is divorced twice mainly because of his job and hates it. The other works in middle office and hates her job. I know multiple Cambs grads who work in charity and make no money and are extremely happy etc. etc. my point being that your opinion on what I should be doing or what consitutes a good career, is your opinion and I find it extremely arrogant of you to post on forums that an entire group of people are unethical and dishonest because the ones you have met are, or you classify my job as substandard because some chick screwed you over for what could have been a junior law clerks job for all i know...the issue i have with it is the generalisation. I ethically do a job i love for a lot of money that give me choices for my future without having to negotiate on lifestlye, and yet in your opinion it is substandard.. do you even know how senior search and selection is conducted? or do you see all headhunters as covering temp positions or junior roles that pay up to $100,000? A couple of girls didn't call you back and so MY job is unethical. It's astounding to me that it clearly appears that you have dealt with idiots in the past, and yet because of that you feel MY job is beneath me!?! I don't even know why I am bothering to continue with this anyway, but i will make sure i forward on to the Cambs graduating board the 'approved' jobs for Cambs grads. I.E. stereotype jobs..

Displaced Legal Professional in Arvada, Colorado said: Continued from previous post..

Senior search and selection is irrelevant for me. ...

Look at the last few posts from "pedrotheant" - As I've seen and said, "Pleasanton" is all over RHI posts, he supports RHI and his own self worth to the maximum - and the standard trend has been, when he's questioned, gets personal and just plain mean.
Examples: "girls" .. some chick screwed - this proves my point. He is so far above us normal folk and resorts to being condescending. His posts are personal and counterproductive. Looks like he’s at home alone with his money.

He has so many different stories all through RHI affiliated posts that you have to search for responses. And yes - some posts have been deleted, because I had them in my "junk mail", but, for some reason they were no longer on the original posts.

Let's stick with helping each other on these posts. That's what the forums are here for. Thanks for reading.

PS: Yes - I meant "thrown", cause he keeps getting tossed off of it (throne - play on words).

pedrotheant in Toronto, Ontario said: Why wouldn't a cambridge graduate work in recruitment? Because you have a low opinion of it you find it so amazing.? I have a client facing role and i deal with new people every day. I help pepole get the jobs they want and I coach and train them to succeed in interviews when their confidence and belief in themseves is low. I keep my own hours and train and run teams based on ethics in an industry that often takes advantage of young graduates and turn them into unethical salespeople. I also get paid very well for it, so why would I not want to work in recruitment? I have never had posts deleted. I live in Toronto and I have no idea why it registers me in Pleasonton California or why my status changes, but I appreciate your evident belief that it is some sort of 'headhunter' conspiracy.I have never even been to pleasonton and I don't know where it is. Of course I reply to all sweeping generalisations about the recruitment industry and support all groups you clown, because i work in the recruitment industry and whilst I appreciate that some headhunters should be brought to call, not all are like that. I take my tea with milk and 2 sugars, preferably Earl Gray and if you have had an issue with a headhunter, give me their name/office and I will speak to them.

You call me a "clown" and you're going to "call the office and speak with them"? Get some class. If you're going to call all the RHI headhunters that are "bad" - you'll be on the phone a long time - a very, very long time.

Hey - here's an idea, post this offer - to contact bad headhunters - on all the other RHI posts, see how that works for ya!

pedrotheant in Toronto, Ontario said: They always do...and always loose.

Wow, you would think that the "Best University in the world" would produce people that could spell "lose."

RHI is the worst. Plain and simple.

redondo 777 in Pleasanton, California said: Wow, you would think that the "Best University in the world" would produce people that could spell "lose."

This is pretty much how everyone who works for Robert Half treats people. Enough said.

Charles in Chicago, Illinois said: Stay AWAY from the Northbrook Office In Chicago, Illinois. It is a complete disaster out there. Very unprofessional.

YES! That's the one I interviewed at. The only skill-related questions my agent asked me were "can you do a pivot chart" and "can you run a macro?" Such crap.

pedrotheant in Mimico, Ontario said: ok, i don't completely agree with you on that though. Robert Half is a 4 billion a year industry and they don't make that sort of margin by screwing everyone over. I didn't get my job through Robert Half, but the consultant did interview coach me for another job. 6 months later my new boss said he has blackballed some candidates for things they said in interview and I would have said those things if the girl at RH hadn't explained why people shouldn't say them. My brother works in Securitization and he couldn't get an interview at BARCAP(big debt house) for love or money, they had no roles etc. a guy from Rob Half used his contact there to persuade them to interview him ( he had put people there before) and after they agreed to see him, BARCAP created a new role for him and expanded the team. That wouldn't have happened otherwise.( His boss said he only saw him as a favour to the RH guy) OK, sometimes they may advertise roles they don't have, but so what?? if it meant that they will see my resume and try to get me a job, what do I care if they make a buck off it. I wouldn't have a job otherwise! I'll happily use their contacts...I don't see the fuss, they aren't successful unless they help people out.

They didn't get to $4 billion by screwing people over? Tell that to the former employees of Enron.

Does anyone have feedback on their creative placement arm; The Creative Group?

A rep of The Creative Group in Dallas called me. She said that she'd seen my resume on on CareerBuilders and felt that I was perfect for an opening with one of her clients. She sent me the job description, which also revealed the name of the client and I forwarded my updated resume to the CG rep. She also directed me to fill out about an hour's worth of information on her firm's Web site. I did and she called to schedule an in person interview.

I arrived 15 minutes early for my 9:30 a.m. appointment and more than one hour later, disgusted with their unprofessional treatment (their rep was a no show), I left.

I sent queries to the no-show rep and to the general manager of the Dallas office. Two days later, the rep sent an email apologizing and asking for a second chance. By then, I had contacted the firm that she claimed to have a position for me with. They indicated that no such position or opening existed.

The part that really bothers me is that they made copies of my social security card and passport before they put me in the interview room to wait. But when I left, explaining that I had other appointments and simply could not wait longer, they kept the photo copies of my ID documents.

I wrote to the general manager of the Dallas office of the Creative Group the same day. Ten days later, the GM still has not responded to my query as to what went wrong although, as I said, the rep did.

In my mind, The Creative Group is less than worthless and probably (in my humble opinion), a fraudulent operation. I may be wrong, but what I think the rep really intended to do is to get my hopes up (the bait) and then switch me to a job couseling customer wherein I would be encouraged to pay The Creative Group thousands of dollars for help with my resume, job hunting and interview techniques. It's a classic bait and swith practice. How they became a $4 billion operation is a mystery.

Displaced Legal Professional in Denver, Colorado said: Tex in Dallas, Texas: "The part that really bothers me is that they made copies of my social security card and passport before they put me in the interview room to wait. But when I left, explaining that I had other appointments and simply could not wait longer, they kept the photo copies of my ID documents."

I wouldn't have agree to give them copies of my documents. They don't need them to verify your past employment, and I would said so to them. You only have to provide proof of citizenship AT HIRE.

Sorry for your bad, but not surprising, headhunter experience.

That is true, but I imagine it is to safeguard getting all the way to hire and then a canddiate NOT having citizenship.. I needed a job when I moved to Canada and a friend told me just to go to int and hten if they liked me they would sponsor my work permit..I didn'ty do it, but I am sure people do!!

Thanks for both replies. The thing was that I was not familiar with The Creative Group in Dallas. They have no reputation, one way or the other.

Naturally, Robert Half International has had a scumbags reputation for decades. I recall in the 1980s when the State Attorney General of Texas, in partnership with the City of Dallas fined them for their bait and switch antics. Thus, it's clear why they "evolved" the Robert Half name to TCG. When I got off the elevator, I noticed in very small type under The Creative Group's sign, "a division of Robert Half International." Oh nuts, I thought to myself. The waiting area was simply jammed with every type of humanity--like bar scene in the original Star Wars. Sort of the equivalent of the waiting room at a charity hospital. Since, I'd gone that far, I figured why not stay a while, with my guard up, and see what they had to say.

Unfortunately, since their rep was a no-show after an hour and 20 minutes, I didn't get the opportunity. A leopard can change its spots, but it's still a leapard. In this case, the leopard is a skunk. Live and learn.

You know, it would be very easy and great PR for Robert Half to simply admit that their business practices over the past two decades were "not in the best interests of all parties" and move on. With that one statement, they would not admit to ethical business violations and in the next stage of their operations they could take the lead as such with honorable intentions.

Robert Half would spend a ton less on their lawyers and defending their less than ethical business practices and become a leader among the placement services of the world. Naturally, this won't happen since their CEO is a NY lawyer! Go figure.

For the life of me, I cannot fathom why this firm chooses to continue to practice such dishonorable business methods when they could take a better path that would be so beneficial to their shareholders. I sort of figure that their CEO is spending too much time at the golf course and leaving his lesser lights to run the show. And those lesser lights are simply more interested in impressing the CEO. In short, those below the CEO are "yes men" and pretty much worthless. 'Tis a shame.

Ann in Woodville, Massachusetts said: We always give the name of the company to the candidate once they have expressed interest in the position and want their resume submitted. It avoids any chance of the candidate having interviewed there previously or not being interested in that particular company. A good recruiter, who wants to work with you, wants to cover all the bases and not duplicate efforts.

If they won't give you the name of the company that they want to submit your resume to, beware.

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Cow paddies. The only way that I obtained the name of the company involved was because my Robt. Half recruiter is some incompentant that she forgot to delete the information from the material that she forwarded to me. It was buried so deeply that she didn't read far enought down the description.

So, I'm a current corporate recruiter who is also a former RH staffer and I did spend my time at other agencies too.

Couple of points:

First, I agree wholeheartedly RH is just awful in the way it treats its internal employees. It's a revolving door. The reason you are dealing with so many 'clueless recruiters' is because they churn through so many people--the person you are talking to is probably a salesperson who's never recruited before. I wish i could say this is going to turn around and bite them, but they are a huge bohemouth and they will still make money on just churning through recruiters. Even if that means an awful experience for you, the job seeker, and me, the client.

Second, I hate to say this but in general not all job postings are actual jobs. Most agencies really do have to post generic positions to get the talent in the door. Honestly, I let it bother you too much. Just interview anyway. Lots of people get offered a different job than the one they originally applied for. Don't get too stuck on an ad.

Again, not defending RH, but these firms have to have a fresh book of talent to present to their clients--and that means proactively talking with you, the job seeker. I guess I didn't last too long at RH because I tried to be up front about this with my candidates.

Third, again, it's all a numbers game and you can make it work in your favor-- keep interviewing and applying at as many agencies as possible. With some effort and luck you'll finally find a recruiter who is good. The good news is, if you get a crappy Robert Half recruiter, don't worry, he or she will probably be gone next month anyway. :) In every city regardless of the firm, there are some good, knowledgeable recruiters who want to help you. Keep looking and be patient.

Finally, I promise, many of us recruiters really want you to get the job and want to help you. Nothing makes me happier.

Displaced Legal Professional in Denver, Colorado said: anonymous in Washington, District of Columbia: "[I]n general not all job postings are actual jobs."

DUH!!! Thanks for telling us.

"Just interview anyway. Lots of people get offered a different job than the one they originally applied for. Don't get too stuck on an ad."

"Finally, I promise, many of us recruiters really want you to get the job and want to help you. Nothing makes me happier."

Very interesting how you say "many" of us recruiters. I've already had headhunters break their promises to me.

I agree with you about the majority of recruiters. Of course they're "happy" - they are getting money in their pockets for placing someone. There are some great recruiters - I have found some at Spherion, Manpower, Frankel, and Volt. However - I had to put more effort into making appointments with them, ie, calling or driving to their office - to see someone in person.
Point is: you get as much out of something as you put into it. I have little patience with folks who write, "I e-mail or leave messages and no one calls me back". Well, that should tell you to hit the pavement and go to their offices. I have spent over 20 hrs/wk just driving, filling out applications, and taking the SAME typing tests. Now, I am registered with over 8 agencies. It's all in the numbers, the more contacts you have, the better prospect of getting a good job.
Two clues: 1) if you have your resume online, Monster, etc., be sure to make any small change at least once a week. This freshens your resume so that it is picked up in searches and 2) if your resume isn't being reviewed (Monster shows # of hits for instance), review other job postings and see what the keywords are and add to your resume.
Good Luck to all.

OK, I guess I should have clarified. (I was running out of space.) Yes, headhunters (good and bad) are financially incented to place a person in a job. So, we aren't here to stand in your way or prevent you from getting a job.

Again, it bears repeating. Don't get too stuck on a job posting or an ad. It's very likely been changed or restructured or filled internally since it was posted. Apply anyway, and interview anyway. When the next job opens up, and you've made a great impression, you're in. And this isn't limited to the headhunters, it's true at most corporations.

Displaced Legal Professional in Denver, Colorado said: anonymous in Washington, District of Columbia: "Again, it bears repeating. Don't get too stuck on a job posting or an ad. It's very likely been changed or restructured or filled internally since it was posted. Apply anyway, and interview anyway...."

Again, this bears repeating. Why should one interview with a headhunter for a job that one (1) is not interested; (2) is not qualified for and/or cannot do; (3) wasted time dealing with because of a false ad? There is no way you can justify baiting-and-switching and outright deceiving people. Bringing in hapless jobseekers only to pad your body count is no justification for such deceitful tactics.

How about being forthright enough to call a candidate before an interview, explain the "job" has been "filled," and offer the opportunity to interview for other orders? You will say that no one will come in; I say they will and will appreciate your honesty.

Yeah, corporations and direct-hire employers use hapless jobseekers as their pawns, too. They interview people they have no intention of hiring for whatever reason, e.g., to punch their ticket for the EEOC. HR coneheads in those places also have to maintain a body count. They have to prove to their hiring managers they're doing their jobs and/or justify their positions.

Yeah I agree, I was honest with people when they called and asked. I guess that's why I didn't last too long at Robert Half. :) Really, what I meant was, whether a job ad represents an actual position or not shouldn't matter all that much. Make a great impression on a recruiter (not necessarily a headhunter) and he/she will call you back as soon as something does open up.

Again, I'm not here to defend RH-- I came to gripe about them right along with you... I am just trying to offer a few words of advice for dealing with recruiters (headhunters and corporate types)

They do post fake job orders, job orders that have long expired, been filled, or have changed. The idea is to get people to call & ask about the job so they can come in for an interview. Recruiters are required to bring in at least 20-25 new recruits a week, qualified or not. Don't feel lucky if the recruiter tells you how qualified you are for the job and then when you get there don't be surprised if the job is already filled. The recruiter is just doing his job-you are just a number.Chances are,you will not be called again for any work-1000's of candidates for only dozens of jobs. The AIP comment is true - it is a rating system used to judge a candidate's Appearance, Intelligence, & Placeability-based on nothing but the recruiter's personal opinion of the candidate. If the recruiter thought the person was a snob or ugly, the AIP is low...if the recruiter thinks he can make a commission by putting this person to work right away, the rating is high and the candidate is marketed as a MPC - Most Placeable Candidate and all efforts are concentrated on this candidate while hundreds of others are ignored. The company treats their folks terribly - requiring them to come in at 7:45a when their hrs are 8-6p.People are pressured to work through lunch and stay late at least 1 night a week to make telemarketing calls.Not allowing a worker to go to church or a child's appointment during the day is true-workers are scrutinized for any time taken during normal business hours. They have a 411/911 system as well.Workers are not to be bothered by each other for any conversations during business hrs-unless it is an emergency, a 911.So, if you are new and have a question for your manager, wait unil the last 1/4 of the hour and see if he has time for your 411. It is just plain silly! Their system sets you up for failure and they blame you instead of fixing their system and don't look for help or advice, you won't have time-they will just fire you. worst job i ever had.

I've tried RH and had a bad experience just like most. Today I got a call from the Sedona Group. Does anyone no anything about them and if they actually help you find employment. I search the forums but there were no comments. Any help would be appreciated.

Displaced Legal Professional in Denver, Colorado said: Actually, with Monster, you only have to hit the "refresh" link. You don't necessarily have to make a small change.

Hopefully people have heard the latest news about Monster. Apparently it has been hacked into with candidate information ripped off. IMHO, only, it would be wise for Monster posters to de-identify their resumes as much as possible to minimize identity theft.

I don't understand why anyone would want to list their names, addresses and phone numbers on a public job board. ID theft issues notwithstanding, I, personally, don't want the world to know I am not working. Only MHO. Others will have different thoughts.

For the simple reason, recruiters, etc. usually will not send an e-mail to get in touch with you. Most of the recruiters that have contacted me is by phone. I don't like putting my info out there, however, if you don't, ie phone number at least, they won't call.

Also, with my address, hopefully they'll have the sense not call me for a job that is 2 hours away. Even had someone who called me from instate. I actually live near RTP, but, even that is a minimum of 3 hrs per day, driving. Takes all kinds.

Displaced Legal Professional in Denver, Colorado said: sure wish this software would let you edit after posting :( )

Well it isn't so quit crying about it. Posting everything twice isn't going to help either. That is called being passive aggressive.

Displaced Legal Professional in Denver, Colorado said: I probably did not interview well, but the headhunter said she would send my resume to her client that afternoon. She assured me I would hear from her later that afternoon or the next day. Ten months later, I'm still waiting for her call.

That is just plain stupid. You admit the interview probably didn't go well yet you waited around for ten months imagining they would still call you? Fat chance in hell, bub.

pedrotheant in Pleasanton, California said: your 'several' encounters do not justify your sweeping statments.. It's like saying I don't like arabs because some are terrorists. There are headhunters out there who are ethical and very good at their jobs I assure you...

I totally agree with that. Anyone who knows anything about business will know that it is impossible for any group, company, culture or other collection of individuals to be all bad or all good.

Displaced Legal Professional in Arvada, Colorado said: fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I've been fooled three times.

Then logically you admit to being a fool. I agree with you on that point.

Displaced Legal Professional in Arvada, Colorado said: I didn't know that some attorneys are "rouge." Or, do they wear "rouge"? Or, do you mean "rogue"? I suppose that attorneys can wear rouge and also be rogues.

You need to learn how to spell. E.g., "attorneys," not "attourneys." "Licenses," not "lisences." Do you mean "imaginary" or "imagery"?

You also need to learn the rules of capitalization. The "i" in irony should be a small "i."

I find it sad to see a person so inept in the art of debating that the only counter to another's argument is a spelling attack.

No mystery why "Displaced" never made it any further in the legal profession than a paralegal. "Your honor, the plaintiff is obviously guilty because his tie is crooked and right here you can see a misspelled word on his documents!"

Ti Ti in Westerly, Rhode Island said: One Bad Experience?? Get your head out of your A S S last count there are over 500 negative comments on this board alone. For every 1 response there are several hundred more with the same experience but don't take the time to respond. Jobseekers - IGNORE ROBERT HALF

I agree, IGNORE Robert Half...they are a bunch of morons who know nothing about the actual position you are applying for. They think that someone with a 3.5 GPA and went to a top Ivy League School can do the job better than someone with a 3.2 GPA and graduated from a well known collge. That is all RH knows and talks about, GPA and the collge you attended. How about RH find us job seekers a job and actually do some work!

You mean the employers request someone from a top Ivy League school?!?!? Why do you think it is RH making that distinction and not the ACTUAL employer??? Get the chip off your shoulder. It is ridiculous to argue that someone who went to a better school and got a better GPA wouldn't be a safer bet for an employer...absolute lunacy...what is the GPA rating there for?

Clearly, one's GPA is only relevant when one is searching for their first or second job out of college. For that matter, few universities even verify GPAs. Personally, I believe that you can put down nearly any grade point average and no one will be the wiser if you fudge.

My employer recently utilized Robert Half Resource Management and OfficeTeam to fill two interim positions. One position was for an interim HR manager. We interviewed their candidates and filled the position with our 1st choice. The individual came in one day and then didn't return. No phone call or explanation from Robert Half or their candidate. They then sent after we agreed one of the other two individuals. The one we didn't select wasn't an option for a 6 week assignment since this person lived 350+ miles away from our company. The 2nd person came in and agreed to work for approximately 90 to 100 days. This individual didn't have the qualifications we needed even for an interim position and we decided to make the best of it. The person decided to end their assignment with us 2 weeks early, but asked to come back on an on call basis to work on specific projects. The person also applied for the position through another company we had a contract with to do our executive search. To this day the individual still believes they have a shot at this opening, but doesn't have the experience needed. While with us the individual took it open themselves to sign off on financial and management decisions without having signature authority. The person was less than professional in their dealings with the executive staff and refused to schedule time to meet with them and would work around the support staff assigned to each executive and the CEO. Our company has selected our new executive made the offer and the offer has been excepted and the interim person still stops by and emails about the "specific" projects they wish to work on and emails the CEO letting him know they still want the fulltime position that is open (but it is no longer open).

The first individual through OfficeTeam were about the same. The first was a nightmare, wanted to talk and visit and choose what she wanted to work on. She was brought into assist to high level Executive assistants.

Nalla in ? said: I've tried RH and had a bad experience just like most. Today I got a call from the Sedona Group. Does anyone no anything about them and if they actually help you find employment. I search the forums but there were no comments. Any help would be appreciated.

Our company has used Sedona Group. They are a small agency. The candidates they have sent to us in the past have been fully screened and of great quality. Their pool of temporary employees is small, so that means sometimes we have to look at other agencies such as RHI to get quick placement.

I also like their recruiters, they aren't nearly as pushy and seem to really care about providing a good match for our needs.

Thank you for your detailed response. I'll give them a call. I'm just tired of being disappointed.

Senior Citizen in Twin City, Georgia said: I do believe "Displaced" has been rightly pegged here. "Clown." I couldn't have put it better. You should know that "Displaced" is a person of very low self esteem and tends to be easily intimidated by anyone of normal self assurance.

Give him a little longer and he will start criticising you for spelling words in the UK manner. :)

I've read some of your responses. Talk about pot calling the kettle black, you are the one being passive aggressive hiding behind your typewriter to lash out at others. You are just a cranky and unpleasant person. This site is to help each other, so if you want to be such a jerk, go blog somewhere else.

Recruiters DO USE your past work history for leads. Office Team is known for doing that.

As for the double postings - Indeed. com does that some times - this is not the fault of the sender.

You are Pleasanton are a great duo. You both are just posting just to vent and attack others to make up for your shortcomings.

Go somewhere else. Pleasanton is such a phony and has been called on this many times.

Oh by the way Mr. Scholar - criticising is spelled WRONG - it is critizing with a Z.

Displaced Legal Professional in Denver, Colorado said: I have received plenty of headhunter e-mails off my Monster and Careerbuilder resumes. I learned the hard way not to list my phone number on Careerbuilder after headhunters started to call me. I still received headhunter phone calls after I canceled my registration and re-registered anonymously. At least two of them kept e-mailing me after I stated clearly I do not deal with headhunters.

Try to see if you can mark these incoming e-mails as spam. With Earthlink, if you mark e-mail as spam, it will not come in again.

Keep your head up. I know we've been looking for a while. However, job market seems to be taking a turn for the better.

Charlie in Fort Lauderdale, Florida said: But this isn't a thread about Office Team. To what do you refer?

Indeed does not double post and add a comment about there not being an editor and correct the person's mistakes in the second post. You are full of it.

Office Team is part of the RHI family. Here, they are in the same office. OT is admin, and RHI is "professional" - and I use that term loosely.

Charlie in Fort Lauderdale, Florida said: But this isn't a thread about Office Team. To what do you refer?

Indeed does not double post and add a comment about there not being an editor and correct the person's mistakes in the second post. You are full of it.

Double posting happens occassionally, just a fluke. Get over yourself.

Small Town near Big Town in Charlotte, North Carolina said: Office Team is part of the RHI family. Here, they are in the same office. OT is admin, and RHI is "professional" - and I use that term loosely.

Have you been placed or used other parts of Robert Half? what have been your dealings with RHFSG or Robert Half Management Resources? How do you rate them?

Does anyone have any experience with the Toronto office- good or bad - before I make any decisions?
Thank you,

Which division? They are all different.. I have heard of very good experiences and bad experiences

In the IT division.
Thank you,

I recruited through a guy called Dave Kier there a while ago, not sure if he is still there, but he was very good. They couldn't fill the role in the end, but I would certainly use him again, he was really professional and I met a guy who found a job through him and said he recommends him all the time. Good Luck! P.S. does anyone know how to change the 'Location' tab on this forum?

lala in Pleasanton, California said: Have you been placed or used other parts of Robert Half? what have been your dealings with RHFSG or Robert Half Management Resources? How do you rate them?

On a scale of 1-10, a -3.
I have gone to their offices at least 5 times, for interviews, testing, follow ups (because I couldn't get phone calls/e-mails answered), etc.
They don't have time for you, don't have accurate records (lose info from 3 months prior),
and are aggressive - try to force you take a job that has a pay rate way below your level,
will call you and demand you be at a job in < hour (to fill in for someone that didn't show up - happened to me 3 times)

On top of all this, you cannot establish a repoire with one rep for more than one week. The rep's take turns each week answering phones, etc. What a waste of time/energy having to re-interview with each person. Plus, usually in a month, they are gone - fired, quit, etc. Every other agency I have ever worked for, you work with one agent and collectively, you find a good fit for you. When a person is placed in the right position, that gives credibility to the agency and the "temp".

If you search Indeed for Robert Half, Office Team, etc. there are hundreds of posts that substantiate what I have said.

Are you using a new name? Isn't the RHI head office in Pleasanton? If you are going to go on for the next 3 pages of forum about how great RHI and YOU are, don't bother. I have seen enough of your posts ad nauseum.

Mmmm ok..... That'squite an agressive answer to an open question. Can anyone else help me as it appears that this person has some form of vendetta. Does anyone have any experience wiht RHFSG or Robert Half Management Resources, Not Office team. Office team is not my area and I wouldn't use them anyway. I want to know about RHFSG Ideally. ( A friend used a consultant at MR in Toronto and apparently had a bad exp, but then they moved to another company and apparently service has been better.) And Again I ask if anyone knows how to change the Location tab as I am not in California, Thanks! (P.S. Anonymous, please refrain from replying to my requests in future, I am only interested in constructive help.( Thankyou :)