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crootworld@*****.*** in Lake Worth, Florida

65 months ago

crootworld@aol.com in Lake Worth, Florida said: YOUNG STUDENTS BEWARE: Take it from a seasoned hiring and training manager...this is not a good job for you.
Scenario: I was called by a representative and told I would be paid $15.00/hour as a customer service rep to answer client questions. I have a full time job but wanted a part-time one as supplemental income. This was fine.

When I arrived I filled out a form and a sign said to sit and wait quietly and wait for a manager. I was taken by the structure and the yound man in a suit that came out to say hello and talk on his cell phone about cutlery. Eventually a young man turned a radio on that skipped and the room started to fill up with other "very young" applicants. Feeling a little out of place being over 40 the others said they were students looking for jobs.

I was supposed to meet with "Fred" but was called in by another assistant manager that I would guess was maybe 20. I was told this was the first stage and if I had time there would be a second stage for about 90 minutes. I was asked from 1 to 10 (best case) how I would rate my communication skills...I said 10. When asked why I let him know I'm a previous corporate trainer, seminar speaker, and currently an expert in relationship selling in my full time job. I was asked if I looked up information about Vector I told him "Yes" that they sold cutlery and the company had a preference for students to teach them business acumen and protocal. I then asked him the golden question..I was told this paid $15.00 per hour to be a customer service rep. He informed me that they paid $15.00 per appointment and you go to peoples homes to sell cutlery. When I asked why the bait and switch the interview was basically over and I told him with a smirk that I guess I didn't make the cut.
Students and young folks....you do not want to start your professional career at this company. The biggest risk I see here is your safety going to people's homes with knifes????

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Anon in Auburndale, Florida

48 months ago

I am an Ex-Employee at Vector;
I started at the start of the summer and remember my interview; A small office filled with metal, fold out chairs; There was mildew creeping in from the door; which surprised me, to say the least
Well, we had 15 people in the room all-together; Most of us aged between 17 and 25; but there were two older people, Well, for the first part of the interview, me and someone else went into the office with the Branch Manager; he asked us bits and pieces about our applications, which lasted maybe 3 minutes for us two; well a little later on the two older people were called into the office and were in there for one minute, they both walked out the front door without saying a word to anyone
That struck me odd
Well, then the second part of the interview came along and we all sat down and watched the presentation, I got to meet new people and had a good time
Then the third part came; we all got told what he thought about us and whether or not we would be hired, he loved my enthusiasm and my energy, so I was hired! As were the other 13 people as well

Well, then my training was a few days away, so I wanted to read a bit more about the company itself, it seemed amazing! I found multiple websites and petitions saying bad things about the company, I then was very cautious with the company, not trusting it

Well, training came along and I stayed for day one, we got to talk about some of the manual, joke around a bit, and sit in the god forsaken metal chairs which jabbed into your back for an entire day, we also were not allowed to have a lunch break, so I was starving I then went home and started doing what my boss asked me to do, put together a list of 100+ people and 20+ numbers, now I wasn't able to meet the people requirement and I was just short of the numbers requirement, so I made up some numbers (Felt guilty, but whatever)

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Anon in Auburndale, Florida

48 months ago

(cont)
Day two of training: Same deal, but we got to cut fruit, I found a group of people just like me, I told them what I found out and they checked it out, Suspicion grew more in me against the company

Day three of training: Last day, I wanted to finish strong! Well, as the training days went by, we had more and more people drop this job (especially people I spoke to) we were issued our sample kits and were told to go have a good time on our appointments! I went energetically to my first few appointments (well all of my appointments; as I have ADHD, so my energy levels are through the roof)

I got my first pay check about a week after I started, I got paid $101 for like, 7 appointments, so I was grinning, I finally earned a paycheck, so I loosened up a bit towards Vector, not being so cautious, well I don't think that was smart now

About 3 Weeks ago, i didn't make a sale, which I didn't stress out about, as we only have to make sales once a year to keep our sample kit and our job! At least that was what I was told during training; WELL, as I told my boss I didn't make any sales, he told me he would be required to take away my kit, which struck me oddly; but I replied to with "Okay.." And started making appointments, well then I got a call from my dad, I told him what my boss told me and my dad told me I need to find a real job ASAP; I told him just to give me a week to turn around everything, he hesitantly agreed to do that; I spoke to him after getting home and he said he is just trying to look out for me, which I can respect

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Ricergirl in Tupelo, Mississippi

42 months ago

I see all this negativity from people at vector. Let me ask ya'll a question? If a student fails in school who do they blame, the teachers or himself? well of course its his own fault for failing. Ive been in vector for a few weeks now. I didn't have to buy the demo kit and yes the training isn't paid but in the end its worth it. I enjoy my job there and my schedule is very flexible and i get paid way more than what i get paid at my normal 8-5 job. I have sold several knives and my network is growing. I love it. Try not to read into others negativity. Like i said before - no one blames themselves for their own failures. It is a job you HAVE to work for it!

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Kai in Sterling, Virginia

42 months ago

I'm probably not going to take the job because I have Social Anxiety Disorder, but I'm interviewing tomorrow just because a friend who works there referred me. This friend is the kind of person who doesn't take crap from people, so if he hasn't quit yet, I trust that this particular branch isn't as horrid as some people make the entire company out to be.

My guess is that most people spouting out the "scam" negativity have either been reading outdated information, had negative experiences with individual people in the company, or have no experience and are the kind of people who are right no matter what even if they're wrong and if you have a different opinion then they must attack you.

Honestly, if someone has a different experience or opinion does it REALLY call for you tossing out profanities and attacking them about it when you can just calmly explain your point of view without losing any point in a garble of heated incomprehensible yelling about how stupid the other person is?

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richard

40 months ago

hello this morning i applied for vector an im a collage student looking for a part time job to fit around my school schudle an sound promising so i applied as i read about others experinces at vector im glad i found out the truth about what would be a dieaster thanks that was helpful to me not commiting to a scam an it made sense bait an switch that aint cool an poor reputation for any company

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crisstar in Riverside, California

40 months ago

This is a very odd company. Many years ago I interviewed for a position in an really bare bones dingy looking office that appeared to not have any air conditioning (this is in Calif) and red flags went up immediately. If this company is doing so well, why do they have their offices in dingy run-down business areas? It seems like these offices are "fly by night" and I wouldn't trust them at all. I never took the position, but instead worked online in my own business.

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julierein81@*****.*** in Eden Prairie, Minnesota

40 months ago

I found Vector through snagajob.com and I filled out the application, and then I called them instead of waiting for them to call me, they scheduled an interview for me the same day at 5 PM. So I went for the interview and was made an offer to come back for the training that was a 3 day 5-6 hours each day with only 1 15 minute break and the training is unpaid. I was with 3 other people the 1st day, 2 the 2nd day and all by myself the 3rd day and on the 3rd day I was hired and given a $370.00 kit on loan. I had 6 demos scheduled my 1st weekend and 5 of them canceled so in my first and only two weeks I did a total of 3 demos but will only get paid for 1 because I didn't have my customers fill out a verification form that I don't recall being told about. Also every time I called they're PDI number that I was told that when called my calls will always be answered only 1 of my calls were answered and a few of my calls were returned within a day and I also had a few that were never returned, I did not feel the support I was told I would receive from Casey O'Conner. I have no intentions on cashing the check I receive if I even receive one.

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Dave in Nashville, Tennessee

40 months ago

I saw an advertisement as a college student just while I was home for winter break. It wasn't easy finding valuable work experience over winter or summer breaks while in college, and Cutco/Vector turned into a great winter break and summer break job that was flexible around vacation and had the earning potential where I could earn and save some good money as a college student. The job was so fun that I stayed with the company throughout the rest of college.

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Matt Boland in El Cajon, California

40 months ago

I started as a transplant - new to California by way of Pennsylvania. Had never heard of the company or the product before, but it turned out I had a lot of family that had Cutco for years.

Found out about the job online while I was a grad student at the Academy of Art University. I never had any experience in sales or customer service so I was pretty terrible when I started, but I did make some small sales initially because the product is top notch. My trainers really helped me out in the beginning and after a few weeks on the job I was able to contend with some of the top reps in my office.

It's been a VERY positive experience for me - partly because I enjoy working hard, but mostly because I've been lucky to work with great teachers and solid programs. I would HIGHLY recommend this job for people looking to get their feet wet with work experience and add to their resume, or to anyone looking for a way to enjoy their work and get a competitive edge.

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Matt in Tampa, Florida

40 months ago

I started working with Cutco/Vector in June of 1998. The opportunity was AMAZING. Of course, as in life, there are people that don't succeed, but if you want to do something that can/will give you a great foundation for the future from a communication, time management, professional standpoint this is a great direction. I was also able to earn between $15-$21k each summer for 3 consecutive summers while in college. After graduation I was able to go 7-7 on job interviews due to the experience on the resume. If you love meeting people, growing yourself and resume, and being paid for your effort this is a great position to take advantage of.

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John in Ventura, California

39 months ago

I heard about this job after I got an advertisement letter in the mail. It was surreal because I had been on the job hunt to cover school expenses. It was a pretty rad experience. I was an amateur skateboarder at the time and I traveled a lot around SoCal, the appointment scheduling worked well for me because my skating schedule was so hectic. I stuck with them through out college and had a great time. Good company, good people.

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jthall in Rodeo, California

39 months ago

I can't say enough great things about this company and the people that I have worked with. When I started I was on unemployment and felt like my life was going nowhere. I have worked in restaurants, wineries and even managed a private vineyard for 4 years. I loved the people I worked with there too but there was no room for advancement at any of my past jobs. I started with Vector in 2011 at age 27 as a sales rep, the same way that everyone starts. I worked hard and six months later I had reached the highest level sales rep in the company. I worked as an assistant manager for the next 8 months and then was promoted to District Manager. I was guided by my District Manager every step of the way. If I ever had a challenge or a question I could always go to him for support and get the answers I needed to continue to grow. The people that I worked with in and outside of my office were always positive and helpful. Everyone wanted to see me do well and it showed in their support. The product that we represent is one of the finest cutlery brands ever created but its the people that make the company so great. I have met friends through Vector that I will have the rest of my life. Each office is a little bit different, but I have found that if you surround yourself by the right type of people it will automatically push you in the right direction. I want to thank everyone for not letting me give up on myself. I would recommend Vector to anyone who wants to be a part of an amazing team while at the same time developing the skills that they will need in their futures. My best wishes to everyone that reads this, I hope it helped.

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Jmason in Jamestown, New York

39 months ago

My Vector experience has been life changing for me. I saw an ad in the news paper for a job that advertised $12.00 base/ appt. (not per hour). so I went in for the interview to see what it was all about in a store front in a plaza in my town. Being out of Marine Corps training, I was having a hard time finding a job when I came back

Everything worked out for me and as I advanced through the company I learned more and more about how great of a company it was to work for and exactly how it worked!

A year later I made the choice to sell CUTCO more as a career rather than just for a temporary job. I now run my own office and it was the best thing I could have done.

Before Vector, I had no idea what I was going to do with my life. Vector is the perfect place for some one who doesn't know where they should be!

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Kassy in Cleveland, Ohio

39 months ago

I started working with Vector 4 years ago, and it has been the highlight of my life ever since. Going into the interview I was a little uneasy like most people (selling knives really??) but my friend Kim refereed me to the job so I decided to give it a chance, and it was the best thing I've ever done for myself.

Before I worked at Vector I was super shy, not confident, and just an overall awkward person, I'd never fit in with any group of people as well as I wanted to.

Once I started with Vector I found my nitch I have formed great relationships with people all of the country. Gained communication/ public speaking skills, and have transformed into a very confident individual.

Vector has allowed me to have a tun of life chaining experiences: helping others, travailing all over the world, running my own business,making close to 6 figures in my early 20's, etc.

I would never change my Vector experience for anything! But, of course, IT'S NOT FOR EVERYONE, nothing is. My advice to anyone contemplating working for Vector is just do it, you are going to find a career that you love, OR not, but either way you will gain some important life skills in the process. Either way it's a win win situation :)

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Jason Heinritz

39 months ago

I've worked with Vector since 2004. I've been on 13 company trips outside the US, made over 100k while attending college, and have learned priceless life skills. Like any school or sport, what you put into it, you get out of it. If someone is lazy, isn't willing to grow as a person, or is a negative person. This job isn't for everyone , but neither is success.

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Mary in Redding, California

39 months ago

Ricergirl in Tupelo, Mississippi said: I see all this negativity from people at vector. Let me ask ya'll a question? If a student fails in school who do they blame, the teachers or himself? well of course its his own fault for failing. Ive been in vector for a few weeks now. I didn't have to buy the demo kit and yes the training isn't paid but in the end its worth it. I enjoy my job there and my schedule is very flexible and i get paid way more than what i get paid at my normal 8-5 job. I have sold several knives and my network is growing. I love it. Try not to read into others negativity. Like i said before - no one blames themselves for their own failures. It is a job you HAVE to work for it!

I don't think it is the failing that people are blaming on Vector, but rather the lack of honesty and integrity in the company.

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Kasha in Conway, Arkansas

39 months ago

I started with Vector almost two years ago and it has been absolutely life changing for me. I was a college student waiting tables to make money. I had a friend come in and work who actually recommended me . It was hard WORK ( which I think is what is wrong with young people these days, they don't know how to WORK). I agree with a comment above.. now days if a student fails it's always the teachers fault never the students. I would like to see more people take blame for their own downfalls and stop blaming others. Vector is very up front in the interview all the way down to letting applicants know that the training is unpaid. By the way, most internships at major companies are unpaid as well. It is a great opportunity and if you are considering it then i would for sure give it a try! It isn't for everyone obviously,but for those who work hard it is great!

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Kasha in Conway, Arkansas

39 months ago

(cont'd) and just like with ANY other company, there are some managers who may have made mistakes, but that happens everywhere. Vector is a great company and I will continue to work for them as long I can!

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wisedup in Chesapeake, Virginia

39 months ago

Hi, one and all!
The bottom line is - if you get a letter with a job offering, and it's no info on the letterhead, except the name of the company (like just "Vector" in a blue letters) - forget about it! No reputable employer will solicit potential employees like that! it's an universal rule!

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Diamond in West Palm Beach, Florida

38 months ago

Ricergirl in Tupelo, Mississippi said: I see all this negativity from people at vector. Let me ask ya'll a question? If a student fails in school who do they blame, the teachers or himself? well of course its his own fault for failing. Ive been in vector for a few weeks now. I didn't have to buy the demo kit and yes the training isn't paid but in the end its worth it. I enjoy my job there and my schedule is very flexible and i get paid way more than what i get paid at my normal 8-5 job. I have sold several knives and my network is growing. I love it. Try not to read into others negativity. Like i said before - no one blames themselves for their own failures. It is a job you HAVE to work for it!

After awhile, when most of the students are failing (many complaints and negative feedback) everyone begins to turn to the teacher. Your comment has no point or purpose.

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Croak in Seattle, Washington

38 months ago

Aya Myst in Toronto, Ontario said: I’d also like to know this: why was he so desperate that I tell him my reasons and continue with the company anyway?

Because that gives him an opening to pitch you more, and he is making money from recruiting people, not selling knives.

Consumerist explains how you can lose money working for Vector Marketing: consumerist.com/2007/06/04/why-most-people-in-multi-level-marketing-schemes-lose-money/

Consumer Reports, in a review of knives, rated their "Salad Mates" poorly.

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Croak in Seattle, Washington

38 months ago

More coverage of MLMs: www.mlmwatch.org/00AboutMLMWatch/faq.html

Basically, bad deal for most people, and success, if at all, comes through unethical conduct: deceptive marketing, selling mediocre products at high prices, pressing new participants to pay for stock out of their own pockets, and so on.

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Lauren in Lynchburg, Virginia

38 months ago

I currently work as a receptionist for vector and I absolutely love it! Yes, it can be deceiving if you don't take the time to research our company. Our website CLEARLY states what our representatives do. As for requiring a deposit, that is no longer true. Vector willingly loans you the kit and guess what, people have actually ripped them off by stealing it and not coming back. The money from that kit then comes out of Vector's pocket. The representatives at our office have been extremely successful and love their job. This job helps you develop business skills and leadership skills. Also, my manager is absolutely wonderful. He encourages the receptionists and even pays them extra if they are able to bring people to the team. My first paycheck was exactly what it was supposed to be. Yes, there are some branches out there who did not do what they were supposed to and some managers who weren't the best. But those branches have been dealt with in a proper manner. I am so thankful I have had the opportunity to be a part of the Vector team. To anyone who has an interview but is worried about all these negative comments, don't listen to them. Go to the interview and see for yourself. Because I have seen firsthand how successful people are and how much they love their job. If you work hard and put forth the effort, as you should do in any job, you can be very successful.

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Dillon in Niles, Ohio

38 months ago

I just recently started, but I will share what I know right now I started off really worried because of the internet always full of the truth and lies and its hard to discern which is the truth and which isn't. I know people are saying it's door to door well that is not true Vector is based on personal recommendations. As for the prices I don't know if people didn't go through all the training , but for a knife set that is 2nd to Cutco its x3 the price and it is x2 if it's on sale. I truly believe in the product I sell otherwise I wouldn't do the job. I have gained great experience with talking with people, although I haven't gotten to the 2nd form of references that are from family and friends. I also know that as of yet I wasn't charged any money for the knife set they loaned it to us and told us that we would not need to pay for it to return it when we decided we were done with the job. I love the people I work with at the moment they are all very nice outgoing people trying to help you succeed. My manager is a amazing women and I recently attended a small conference like meeting and met another manager that was very nice. I really hope if your in the Boardman/Warren area in Ohio you will at least give it a chance because I can tell you that I know this area is full of nice people. I suggest we start figuring out the bad / good areas.I vouch +1 For Warren/Boardman Oh and by the way I have worked here maybe a week so I have no reason to defend Vector except from personal experience Good Luck everyone I hope you don't say no because of something you see on the internet. As most people know you can't believe everything you see just because it is on the internet.

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Dillon in Niles, Ohio

38 months ago

Oh one thing I wanted to add kind of like a Source or something people may call it.

www.bbb.org/upstate-new-york/business-reviews/cutlery/vector-marketing-corporation-in-olean-ny-1105

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Sean in Monterey, CA in Salinas, California

38 months ago

Hey guys! I'm confused and puzzled, so I need your guys help. About a week ago, I received a mail from Vector and it looked like a great opportunity, but didn't want to call without knowing all the details. I read about the vector scam, and an abudance of negative/positive experiences which puts me in the middle on not knowing what to do. If anyone on here could reply as soon as possble in great detail or maybe a step by step process, it would mean everything to me. Thank you in advance.

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Justin in Atlanta, Georgia

38 months ago

Sean in Monterey, CA in Salinas, California said: Hey guys! I'm confused and puzzled, so I need your guys help. About a week ago, I received a mail from Vector and it looked like a great opportunity, but didn't want to call without knowing all the details. I read about the vector scam, and an abudance of negative/positive experiences which puts me in the middle on not knowing what to do. If anyone on here could reply as soon as possble in great detail or maybe a step by step process, it would mean everything to me. Thank you in advance.

Sean, wanted to help you out here. I work on the corporate side of the company, but I got that same letter 12 years ago. I'm not sure what specific questions you have, but this might be a good place to start: www.vectormarketing.com/got-questions. That site pretty much covers many of the main questions that we get on a regular basis. As you know, anyone can post anything online, and we're not different from any other company where people have the freedom and a platform to express their opinion, whether it be good or bad, about their experience.

I recommend going to that site, then spend some more time on our site so you can have as much information as you need so you can know what we do before you go in for an interview. Let me know if you have any other questions, and I'll be happy to answer them for you. We definitely have nothing to hide.

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jecofield in San Diego, California

38 months ago

Sean in Monterey, CA in Salinas, California said: Hey guys! I'm confused and puzzled, so I need your guys help. About a week ago, I received a mail from Vector and it looked like a great opportunity, but didn't want to call without knowing all the details. I read about the vector scam, and an abudance of negative/positive experiences which puts me in the middle on not knowing what to do. If anyone on here could reply as soon as possble in great detail or maybe a step by step process, it would mean everything to me. Thank you in advance.

Not sure why it logged me in Atlanta, GA, but I'm actually in San Diego.

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Mary in Lansing, Michigan

37 months ago

As a young college student looking for work with little to no avail, i received a text thru a friend of mine about this great opportunity working as a CSR answering questions and working with customers. I had never heard of the company before and so I thought i would give it a shot. When i went in for the interview it all seemed ligit. As i started training i realized this was going to be more difficult than i thought. I have done many appt but only made one sale. Most of my customers aka family and friends itterate to me that they dont have the money to spend on knives because they have more important things to purchase for their families. When i told my boss this i was told to quit making excuses for my customers and sell the product. Now, the only reason i was able to get these appts was because i was told to tell them that they didnt have to buy anything because i get paid just to do the demo, but yet i get pretty much yelld at for not selling. Ive almost put myself into some dangerous health places for this job, with no understanding from my managers. I am now looking again for work with a few possiblities of great jobs.
This job is great if you know people with hundreds of thousands of dollars to spend on these products, but for someone like me who the only people i know servive on food stamps and ssi/ssd this is not the right place. and i hate the way i end up making people feel about the need to have them buy.

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samiam in Ottawa, Ontario

36 months ago

WATCH OUT FOR THIS PLACE ITS TERRIBLE!!!!

I have worked for Vector marketing for over a year now and i did really well my first few months at this job. they then decided to promote me to a manager position and made me deposit $500. This place is good but if you want to make alot of money it might be in your best interest to avoid it! they have alot of conferences one every month or so and you have to pay for them they are average $150. TOTAL RIP OFFFF!!!! also they say that if you recommend your friend to this job they will pay you for your friends sales (2%) well i recommended my friend and now i dont get payed on their sales. also they say that they have a guaranteed pay but really its only a scam and a way they make you work for them. if you have over 10 or so no sales they wont pay you for all the no sales.

I did enjoy working there while i was there but i would never go back!!!! im not saying this because i wasnt successful at the job. I did very will more then most people would. I just think you loose more money over time then make money which is why i decided to leave.

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philrozzi in Wadsworth, Ohio

30 months ago

crootworld@aol.com in Lake Worth, Florida said:

I also applied to vector marketing. I sat through the interview, got hired, bought my salesman demo knife set and never showed up again or called them back. Got a pretty darn good deal on knives and that's all I wanted.

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Jen in Kennesaw, Georgia

29 months ago

Just applied and got a call five min later. Seemed crazy for a sunday. Girl wanted me to come in right that instant. Seemed even crazier. Then adv she could "fit me in" at 7:15 tonight. Sunday night interview? and she said "The manager is hiring day by day" Then I found this page. I will not be attending that "interview"

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chris

26 months ago

Phil Rozzi in Wadsworth, Ohio said: I also applied to vector marketing. I sat through the interview, got hired, bought my salesman demo knife set and never showed up again or called them back. Got a pretty darn good deal on knives and that's all I wanted.

What did you do with the demo set they gave you

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Khaner11 in Ogden, Utah

24 months ago

Anon in Raleigh, North Carolina said: I applied for Vector once, at around 7pm. As soon as I was done with the application (about 10 minutes later), my phone rang, and it was Vector! That was a big tip off to me that something was not right (who does this type of business /recruiting at 7pm?). I ignored the call, and went online to research the company only to find that it was basically a scam. They continued to call me non-stop everyday for nearly 3 weeks. I ignored every call, and I warned anyone looking for a [marketing] job to stay far from Vector. I feel bad for the young people just entering the workforce who get taken by these people. Just keep looking and the right position will come to you.

Lol, same experience here, I applied online and I was called the next morning. All they did was ask if I was 18 and then set up an interview with me, the lady on the phone seemed nice so I set one up for the next Monday, (I was called on a Saturday) I thought it was suspicious that they would call me after only 1 night, about 11 hours actually, while I was setting up the appointment the lady on the phone told me that they were pretty full but had two openings left for an interview one at 2:30 and one at 5:15, I took the one at 5:15, I did a lot of research on this company that seems very very suspicious and it turns out that you actually lose money working for them! I am going to take my buddy with me to the interview, we are setting up a hidden camera on my shirt and we are going to try to flip the interview and ask them demeaning questions about they're bull crap scam of a company, look out vector marketing, were gonna expose you on camera!!! Oh and btw, on my phone the caller ID was mountain estates, wtf?! Can't even be proud enough of your company to put your own dang companies name on your damn caller ID?!?!? That shows you really how desperate these people are for suckers to pay to work for them.

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Erin101 in Dayton, Ohio

9 months ago

I worked for Vector about 3 years ago for about 2 months. It wasn't a scam but it wasn't worth my time at all. First of all, you don't get paid for any training even though you're constantly going. And its not like just one or two days, it's every week as long as you're employed there and you don't get paid for any of it. Secondly, they pressure you to give up names of friends so they can try and recruit them too. Its not too big of a deal but it can get a little embarrassing with them calling everyone. But the worst part is them telling you they pay $12/hr. Its really only $12/appointment, and every appointment is about an hour; which is the only reason they can get away with saying that.The only way to really make money is to sell the knives. They're really nice but they're insanely expensive. So unless you know a bunch of rich people with a bunch of rich friends and they all need knives, I suggest you run.

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Anne in Cape Coral, Florida

2 months ago

Ricergirl in Tupelo, Mississippi said: I see all this negativity from people at vector. Let me ask ya'll a question? If a student fails in school who do they blame, the teachers or himself? well of course its his own fault for failing. Ive been in vector for a few weeks now. I didn't have to buy the demo kit and yes the training isn't paid but in the end its worth it. I enjoy my job there and my schedule is very flexible and i get paid way more than what i get paid at my normal 8-5 job. I have sold several knives and my network is growing. I love it. Try not to read into others negativity. Like i said before - no one blames themselves for their own failures. It is a job you HAVE to work for it!

You obviouslyrepresent the company and dont sell

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Erin101 in Dayton, Ohio

2 months ago

Funny how this exact same comment was posted just a little over 3 years ago...............

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Tonya86 in Thornhill, Ontario

2 months ago

crisstar in Riverside, California said: This is a very odd company. Many years ago I interviewed for a position in an really bare bones dingy looking office that appeared to not have any air conditioning (this is in Calif) and red flags went up immediately. If this company is doing so well, why do they have their offices in dingy run-down business areas? It seems like these offices are "fly by night" and I wouldn't trust them at all. I never took the position, but instead worked online in my own business.

Even their offices in Canada here are dingy, low rent and in a rundown part of town. The office I worked was just a few blocks away from a place, which was literally advertising that it sells "exotic massage" services. The irony is that the managers love to tout that they are endeavoring to build a "championship" team or a place of "champions," that this is a place of "winners" etc. At one point, our manager even analogized Vector to Microsoft ("would you reschedule an interview with Microsoft?!?!") It took everything I had to refrain from telling him, honey, we're no Microsoft, we're not even good enough to shine Microsoft's shoes.

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Zay14 in Lubbock, Texas

1 month ago

I recently had an interview and got hired, yes. The manager gave me a piece of paper and gave directions to do before training in the next couple days. He was talking so fast I couldn't really understand him. Something about trying to sell to my family members I'm guessing? On a piece of paper. Does anyone know what is it I have to do before training?

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NZ94 in Freeland, Michigan

1 month ago

So yes, I'm actually working for them right now. I have completed the training and just completed two of my appointments yesterday evening.

The first time I got the letter I was skeptical. Letters from people that you don't know = bad. I have lived in a university dorm and I was aware that sometimes companies advertise their 'services' by slipping flyers under peoples doors and the ones who are vulnerable enough to actually attend them get screwed over but I digress...

So I get this letter and the first thing that stands out to me is the money (because who doesn't love the twice minimum wage salary?) they give, but I quickly realize it's 'per appointment' and not 'per hour'. I was still hopeful. I call the the number on the letter and a really ice receptionist lady answers and she sound uncharacteristically urgent. She tells me a little bit about the position and she's really vague about it because they're 'stretched for time'. Okay... now that I think about it, if you're that stretched for time, why are you hiring so many people at once? And the description that she gave me was very vague anyways and she concludes with a 'our manager will speak more about this position with you during the interview.' and she tries to get me in on the same day. First red flag.

I manage to get one on Friday because that would be a better time and day for me anyways, but she doesn't seem to feel too badly about it. At this point I was wondering what Vector was (because I've never heard of it before) so I look it up. There are a ton of links that talk about how Vector is a 'scam' and 'don't do this!!!!!!' comments (much like this thread) and I was thinking 'Okay maybe this isn't such a great idea but I really need some money so I guess I can give it a shot'

The interview process was actually very little actual speaking with the manager and more about convincing the candidates about the products and what they would be selling. (cont)

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NZ94 in Freeland, Michigan

1 month ago

(cont) So we were in a room together (I don't think I could even call it a room, it was just so dingy and the chairs we were sitting on were uncomfortable) and we were all pretty confused and a little on edge for the most part. And then the manager (he's probably not much older than I am) comes around, shows us the presentation and talks for a little bit and then individually sends us back to his office to do some more 'talking'. At this point I'm wondering that if I'm spending two hours at this interview shouldn't I be getting something out of this? But after a while he calls me back and he says that everything looks good but my communication skills need work. And he just hires me. No questions asked. Then he gives me things for training.

First day of training is great, we aren't there for very long and it was just me and this other person. We all joked around, read the script and did all this stuff and it was all fine and dandy.

Second day of training was a lot longer. I was sitting in that chair for almost 8 HOURS and I was humiliated for having to pick up my siblings from school (this would only take an hour out of the 8 I was sitting there doing nothing anyways). Keep in mind that all of this was unpaid as well so it was extra upsetting. We were given the task of getting at least 20+ people and their phone numbers and setting up appointments. Since this weekend was a terrible weekend I was only able to set up about 3 appointments.

Third and final day, which was yesterday, was we took the sample knife set (free of cost) and we called more people. The guy next to me managed to book five more while I called some other people and only managed to make one. Of course my manager was upset but I could care less. At this point I was 50% done with their excuses of training and just wanted to leave. (cont 2)

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NZ94 in Freeland, Michigan

1 month ago

(cont 2) I also thought of something as well. A lot of people have said that the offices that the interviews were conducted in were dingy and/or in questionable places. Something my manager told us and I remember this well was that everything is paid out of my managers pocket. EVERYTHING, from the office space, the decorations and the repair (if they have any left for that). If a company that's been around since 1949 can't even give their managers adequate funding for office space and proper advertising, what kind of company is that? Probably not a good one. If a company is as good as they say they are they should be able to reflect it, whether or not it's a new office or anything. Same thing with the letters.

I don't even care much about the types of knives I use in the kitchen. The presentation makes it seem like every American household can afford it but it simply isn't true. Neither do people brag about their kitchen knives (if you do I seriously question the way you spend your time) or anything in their kitchen. My manager told us about how if he was able to sell sets to people that make $50K a year then I should be able to as well.

Which is bogus. A person with a $50K/year job has much more to worry about than blowing off 1K on a set of kitchen knives sold by a fresh high school graduate. Especially families that live off that income. They don't need high-quality knives that they can buy at Walmart or any store. Any kind of sale I made was probably either out of pity or irritation. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the reason I didn't get that many references.

But I sold the first appointment and my manager congratulated me, which was great. Second one? I didn't sell anything at all and even though I followed the script I talked a little more about myself to build more 'rapport' with the customer. I called him and told him that I didn't close the deal. (cont 3)

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NZ94 in Freeland, Michigan

1 month ago

(cont 3) So what happened? He started asking very personal questions about the client. How old is she? What does she do? How many kids does she have? Is she married? You might as well have asked her name and it would be just fine to get your information from the way he was saying it.

It was very aggressive and I didn't like the fact that I was disclosing this type of information to a stranger. And he needed this information to 'see whether or not it was a legitimate appointment'. I even called him for a special and he knew I was doing this appointment. This didn't happen for the first interview at all. It was very off-putting and I plan to give him a piece of my mind when I go over to that office and return everything on Monday. When I am just starting out I expect to be treated with dignity and respect from my manager and be encouraged that 'you know what, you didn't make a sale today but I believe in you.' but I didn't get that. At all. Sales representatives aren't looked highly upon and if your manager doesn't show you respect that other people won't bother showing you it really reflects badly on the company, especially your employee.

If you want to work at a company that treats it's trainees like sub-humans, be my guest. Just know that the sales world isn't as easy as Vector company makes it out to be. And the amount of brainwashing it does to convince the sales reps that don't do as well are 'lazy' or 'can't communicate well' is beyond me. If you have family that are more than willing to lay down money for communicating like a recorder then fine. Good for you. But for most people like my family that have bills to pay, mouths to feed and clothes and other necessities to buy that 1K knife set your aggressively selling WILL NOT convince them to buy it from you. A lot of the people around me are very frugal and practical people and they know better than blowing off thousands of dollars on something that you can get for $20 at walmart. (cont 4)

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NZ94 in Freeland, Michigan

1 month ago

(cont 4) So the moral of the story? If you don't have any self-respect or self-dignity and will be able to take hits from other people, then this company is great. Otherwise you are better off looking for a much steadier and decent job.

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NZ94 in Freeland, Michigan

1 month ago

Zay14 in Lubbock, Texas said: I recently had an interview and got hired, yes. The manager gave me a piece of paper and gave directions to do before training in the next couple days. He was talking so fast I couldn't really understand him. Something about trying to sell to my family members I'm guessing? On a piece of paper. Does anyone know what is it I have to do before training?

You don't have to do anything before training, but it will be helpful to get a list of potential candidates and their numbers (I'd say get at least 50+ contacts) You will be making appointments with people and stuff so that would be a good idea to get done before the time comes

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