Vector marketing-- Big scam

Just thought you all should see that it isn't a scam. Here is one of the advertisements online. I don't see anything wrong here. Stop using claims from 5-10+ years ago.

Description
Vector Marketing is a North American firm established in 1981. We have part time and some full time work opportunities for college students, recent high school graduates, individuals needing extra income and others. Vector representatives market Cutco products through a low key one-on-one approach. We offer a base pay per appointment, which is not based on sales. We also offer a bonus and incentive program, which is based on performance. Our representatives are guaranteed to average at least the base amount and they can earn additional income through the incentive program. These entry level customer sales and service positions also offer a number of other unique advantages:

-Excellent pay
-PT/FT Flexible schedules
-Valuable resume experience
-All majors welcome
-Opportunity to advance
-No experience necessary training provided

The road to success with Vector begins with training. Professors and business leaders throughout North America recognize our training program as being both highly effective and innovative. Specifically designed for individuals who have little or no business experience our representatives are taught how to arrange appointments, meet with potential customers, explain our products, answer questions, write up orders, and ask for recommendations. Upon completion of the seminar, representatives place a fully refundable security deposit for product samples, which they use on appointments. Overall, the training experience will strengthen and enhance their resumes while permitting them to gain valuable sales and business skills.

Requirements

All Ages 17+ - conditions apply.
Able to start immediately

David,why are you in this Forum?And I ask you how long have you worked for Vector? Maybe you feel some threat Because I HAVE worked for the company and have seen all of this first hand!Thats fine that you like it there,thats good!You do NOT know me as to say anything about my behavior or my being a people person or not!

lol i love reading peoples comment on here because i think it's very funny how people get on here and insult eachother and degrade their opinion like its the wrong answer. well guess what, there is no wrong answer when it comes to what you personally think. thats what this forum is for so you can state what you think whith out being insulted. if you take offence to what people say then let it go!! they dont know you so they cant judge you! if you like the company, wonderful stick to it!! if not, then oh well move on and find a job you enjoy. every job is not fit for every person so stop worrying about what you dont like and find something you do like.

I worked at cutco for about two weeks. My gut instinct told me that the place seemed a little suspicious. I mean come on, a multi-million dollar company hiring people from a small ass office making us sit in some crappy fold-up chairs and the employer is some super young guy whose nice, but probably doesn't have your best interest at heart. The other posts will tell you the interview process and stuff so i can skip that. Okay, well i did some research on cutco and when u type it in any search engines, websites that say scams pop up. SUSPICIOUS!! Also, keep in mind that u make 15 dollars an appointment, not an hour, and appointments take up most of ur day to make. You start off selling stuff to friend's and relatives, and they don't end up buying, then u have to ask them to refer people to you and because they themselves don't trust the company are a little nervous about giving you names and numbers of people they know.

Now... how the hell does your manager get paid. Why does he actually bother to spend his time trying to get you to work you're ass off. He gets paid by his employees... us. One district manager rakes in about 15 or 25 kids a week to start working for cutco, claiming they can get lots of money for working hard. He then asks you to write down people you know and their numbers to see if they may be interested in working for cutco... and u haven't even started working yet. Your manager makes you come in about twice a week to make appointments at the office, prolly skeptical about you making appointments at home, and doesn't let you leave until you make at least 2 appointments. Talk about pressure. Now you've barely started working, and been working ur ass off at home making appointments and u gotta make 2 more at the office. You don't get paid for being at the office, and you have to pay gas to get there, or bus fair. Awesome.

Theres a lot of info i gathered, just have nomorespacetowriteit.Ifyouhaveanyquestionsemailme. ialwayscheckit

But anywhosers, let me finish.

Cutco does have some bomb knives and stuff, i would definately buy some. But the only problem is how they actually think of their sales reps. I mean the managers make you feel all special inside and whatnot, and calls you in his private office, tell you that not many people get this type of job, and boom gives you the job. Now i asked the other people that were having the same interview as i was, and there were two people paying attention, but not really understanding what was going on. They were focus and attentive, but didn't answer any questions. I asked them if they got the job, and they did. I don't know how their doing now, but hopefully good.

This is all from my personal experiences, and from what i've researched and heard from fellow friends who worked from this company, was that it was a waste of time and money. If you have good selling skills, go ahead and try. But keep in mind that mostly ever adult has cutco, has heard of cutco, hates cutco, or doesn't feel like spending money for cutco.

And i know imma get a lot of hate replies and prolly hate mail for this. But, for all those haters, I don't hate cutco, i just hate their practices. They teach you how to manipulate the minds of customers and make them feel special for spending tons of money. You get a lot, a ton of money from cutco, if you aren't nervous standing in front of people you know rather strangers and sell them a product. And don't forget your making your district manager like a billion times richer for you working there. But, overall, try it out if you have the time or money, and if you're good at it, hook a brotha up with some money. lol, actually, i do hope whoever does do it is successful.

On that last note, this forum should be for people who don't like cutco lol. I mean honestly, for those who are doing good at cutco, what the hell does it matter if someone shares their misfortune and hates about a company. YOUR still getting paid rite? unless.... you're getting money deducted for people degraded ur job. OOOOOH damn, that'd be a cool job wouldn't it. making posts in forums. anyway, yeah you're rich, share your success stories with friends not strangers, you might end up ruining their lives.

(i have no job, 5 kids, a wife, 500 dollars in the bank, i worked for cutco for 3 days and lost all my money. now im homeless, i ate my kids, my wife left me for a rich man, and im on the verge of death. Thank you cutco, you've helped find my purpose of life)

And I behave how? as if I misbehave because I express my opinion! Go to China, communist!

Misbehave? I never said anything about misbehaving. lol misbehave? yea you prolly meant to sent this to someone else.

That was meant towards 'David', Chris.

If you are going in for a training session, DO NOT give out the names and numbers of friends who might be interested in the company. As a former receptionist, I know they will all get called repeatedly until they flat out say no. If you like your friends, don't make them mad.
I hated working for a company where my hours given were depended on my ability to get people to show up for their interviews. It wasn't my fault. Receptionists were quiting left and right but the managers were so egotisical that they didn't care.
Don't accept receptionist jobs for Vector. They only paid me $7/hr, no benfits or holiday pay.
In case you're wondering why you've applied online and a receptionist has called you so quickly, it's because your name and phone number pops up on their screen instantly. They don't review your application at all. It's a ie.

If anyone is thinking of going to work for Vector, I urge you to go to these links.....I guarantee that Vector does NOT want you to read what is there.....

www.ripoffreport.com/searchresults.asp?q5=Vector%20Marketing&q

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DS-MAX

groups.msn.com/DSMAXTheAftermath/

Vector called me today randomly. I'd never heard of them. They mentioned this kid that I VAGUELY knew from high school and how he had great things to say about me for the company. Less than a minute into the conversation she tries to sign me up for an interview. This definitely sounded shady to me, so I asked for a number to 'call back' later. I haven't in my life talked to the kid who gave such a glowing review of me. I seriously do not trust this company. She told me all about the company and asked nothing about me except for my age, I guess to avoid trouble with child labor laws. LAME.

I just wanted to post a comment explaining exactly what goes on when you sign up for an interview at vector. In the following statements I am not reprimanding or defending vector in any way. I just havent been able to find anything that says exactly what you do.

Once you call they will sign you up for an interview as long as you are 18 years or older. The interviews are done in a group setting and last about an hour. During the interview you are told everything about the position. They pretty much will hire about 95% of the people that interview. After you have been accepted you will go through 3 days of thorough training and purchase a sample kit for about 160 or so. Once you have your sample kit you will go out on appointments that you have made with your friends and family. You are will accumilate refferals from the people that you know so you can make future appointments. There are different commission scales starting from 10% and topping out at 50%. You can recieve base pay for each appointment but its whatevers higher not both. There are sales meeting weekly and from time to time conferences in different areas around the states. The conferences are not mandatory even though it may seem like it because of the staff. From this point on you just keep making your own appointments and manage your own schedule. Managers will call often when a representative first begins to try and motivate. Direct sales are hard for anyone and especially someone thats not use to it but the Vector staff will try and do whatever they can to help you.

This job is definitely not for everyone however it can be a great oppurtunity for some. When you first begin you have to put in a lot of time without a lot of money...so expect that. It can pay off though if you just keep trying to work the program that they use. You have to do exactly what they teach or it simply will not work. Not everyone can do this due to the variety of personalities out there.

if vector is a scam, why would schools allow them to post jobs there??
shouldn't they ban vector from posting jobs at schools?
p.s. i found out about vector on campus. i'm just curious, it's better to be safe.

If you fill out an online application "workforstudents.com"
And it asks for no other job experience... and your favorite foods/hobbies

What does that tell you. I went to an interview just to tell the others that came... not to. :)

First of all, there's a ridiculous amount of comments on here by people who know absolutely nothing about Vector Marketing, and have obviously never been to an interview or they would know everything about the company. That being said, don't you losers have anything better to do with your lives? If you were really serious about your future, I'm sure you would have gone to an interview to try to get a job. But instead you're probably just hiding in your rooms scared to go out and face the real world. Reality check, you will need valid work experience to get anywhere in life. McDonalds does not get you anywhere, and they're the only one's who will hire idiots like you. And if you're actually a college student, and not some drop-out like those commenting on this meaningless blog, then I suggest you go to the interview. Especially if you're majoring in Business, which is a very popular major. Vector Marketing will give you the experience you need to get ahead of everyone else in the business world. And if you find the job to be dificult, then I suggest you find another career because if you can't handle this job, you won't be able to handle any other business job. And those of you who decided not to go to the interview, just do us all a favor and stop filling the internet with your erroneous and idiotic ideals.

Woot ok here we go. IN2YS4U, u obviously didn't read the subject of this forum. Its Vector marketing-- Big scam. Its for those who personally don't like Vector's Business ways and whatnot. You on the other hand, obviously likes it. Why don't you go make a forum about how much you adore the opportunities vector have given you. We don't want your crappy insults here and we're just trying to discuss our experiences. And if you even read the forum at all you'll know that the people commenting vary from Sales Reps to field managers to actual employees working at Vector. Enjoy the money you're getting from Vector and leave us alone. Your a loser if your commenting on loser's thoughts... loser.

IM2YS4U in Arizona said: First of all, there's a ridiculous amount of comments on here by people who know absolutely nothing about Vector Marketing, and have obviously never been to an interview or they would know everything about the company. That being said, don't you losers have anything better to do with your lives? If you were really serious about your future, I'm sure you would have gone to an interview to try to get a job. But instead you're probably just hiding in your rooms scared to go out and face the real world. Reality check, you will need valid work experience to get anywhere in life. McDonalds does not get you anywhere, and they're the only one's who will hire idiots like you. And if you're actually a college student, and not some drop-out like those commenting on this meaningless blog, then I suggest you go to the interview. Especially if you're majoring in Business, which is a very popular major. Vector Marketing will give you the experience you need to get ahead of everyone else in the business world. And if you find the job to be dificult, then I suggest you find another career because if you can't handle this job, you won't be able to handle any other business job. And those of you who decided not to go to the interview, just do us all a favor and stop filling the internet with your erroneous and idiotic ideals.

well first of all i write in this forum and i am a college student majoring in business and i did work for vector and i hated it. worst job ive ever had. and no now i dont work at mcdonalds duh... just because people dont work at vector doesnt mean they are losers duh!!!!!!!!! if this is a meaningless blog then why do you post a reply????

LOL!
Wow that's awesome. Trust me I've never worked in a fast food place, that is against what I believe in. I am a care-taker, and I am not about to be douched out of money. I don't care what you have to say, nor do I want to read it. I'm sure you're one of the people who will go around in life, thinking... " Hell I am so much better than everyone else, why should I care -? I am just a Tool who gives in to the media and the bacteria it spreads through-out our country!" Being obsessed and vain will get you no where. And telling others to follow a SCAM, in my eyes is wrong, and wrong in the eyes of justice to human-kind!

There are some valid careers, and then there are scams. The way I was approached by Vector...definite red flag. They mention some kid that I hardly even know and ask nothing about me besides my age. I'm a college student, I've had work experience, I've had an internship. Vector's approach seemed to scream scam.

And maybe Vector actually does help some people get ahead in life. But it seems like the people who succeed are those who have a sales-type personality, and most people, especially young people, don't have, or haven't yet developed, that kind of personality.

Oh, and IM2YS4U, I am serious about my future. That's why I'm getting a degree for the job I want and not wasting my time with an interview at Vector for a job that is completely irrelevant to my future.

Well said everyone ^_^

Everyone, Go here....

www.ripoffreport.com/searchresults.asp?q1

it doesn't work

listen all of you guys, i dont work for vector marketing nor do i think i will ever.

1. if VECTOR MARKETING was such an awesome job to work for like they describe in the letters and advertisements, then would'nt they be out of positions? Why would they need to send letters to your house go to your campuses to recruit. THEY WOULD HAVE US (STUDENTS, PEOPLE LOOKING FOR JOBS) going to them!!!!!!!!!

Awwww shut up! Your comment makes no sense, HELLLOOOOO
They will target young idiots to do this "work", it will never work out in the end, trust me. If it was a REAL job, they would ask your for past work history, drug test, personal identification... etc...
This cannot be trusted.

BAH I hit the wrong reply sorry :)

Vector is EVIL!!! They are trying to take over the world and make teenagers into mindless zombies that just hand over moey to them!! Quick, everybody save as many people as you can!! You have to leave comments and save our poor teenagers from Vector!!

or...get a job and stop complaining.

p.s. oh, yeah on the thing that everybody has a big problem with, that you have to invest OVER 100 DOLLARS!!! in a set, they tell you that you can return it the next day if you want and get all your money back.

Peace

I cant agree with you more about Vector. The company itself should be ashame for there employees that are using these students who don't have a clue whats going on. I went to training and never went back. Don't get me wrong, the product is great, its just the people who you got to work for are the idiots.

I went on the interview and well most of the facts that people are posting are correct. I was told on that 3 hour interview that took up like all of my time that I could barrow the kit. I was told just like other people that I was lucky that I got an interview because they where full. The weird thing was that all though they where supposidly full they where still trying to get peoples attention and tell them to apply for the position on my school campus. When I went on the interview I noticed that alot of the people that where being interviewed,to be brutally honest, looked a bit slow. The interview was long and the person that interviewed me gave me an uncomfortable feeling. She was staring too hard at me. She then told me in order for me to sell these knives I have to sell them to my family member instead of going door to door. I have to find my own clients on my own to buy knives. I happen to also have a degree in psychology and I know the tricks people pull in sales and yes she pulled alot of these tricks. I'm still going to school for a second degree and I told her how important my classes are and she kept pushing me to miss classes to go to training. I kept telling her that I could not because I have short term classes. She claimed that they are not like pushy sales men but yeah I got a strange feeling and noticed their lie's and techniques.

I went on the interview and well most of the facts that people are posting are correct. I was told on that 3 hour interview that took up like all of my time that I could barrow the kit. I was told just like other people that I was lucky that I got an interview because they where full. The weird thing was that all though they where supposidly full they where still trying to get peoples attention and tell them to apply for the position on my school campus. When I went on the interview I noticed that alot of the people that where being interviewed,to be brutally honest, looked a bit slow. The interview was long and the person that interviewed me gave me an uncomfortable feeling. She was staring too hard at me. She then told me in order for me to sell these knives I have to sell them to my family member instead of going door to door. I have to find my own clients on my own to buy knives. I happen to also have a degree in psychology and I know the tricks people pull in sales and yes she pulled alot of these tricks. I'm still going to school for a second degree and I told her how important my classes are and she kept pushing me to miss classes to go to training. I kept telling her that I could not because I have short term classes. She claimed that they are not like pushy sales men but yeah I got a strange feeling and noticed their lie's and techniques.

x3yon in Sacramento, California said: if vector is a scam, why would schools allow them to post jobs there??
shouldn't they ban vector from posting jobs at schools?
p.s. i found out about vector on campus. i'm just curious, it's better to be safe.

I am answering this because I have worked on many school campuses as a staff and have also been involved in student government where we control who comes on campus. Schools usually do allow these kind of people to still come on campus. They've accidently also allowed scholarship scam people on campus too. It is hard for the schools to know who exactly the company is, especially during job fairs. Sad to say sometimes the schools just need more people for their events.

Kathy said: To Amanda the receptionist:
Why on earth are you a receptionist for this wonderful company, when you said yourself, there's so much money to be made actually selling the product? You chose to be a secretary rather than sell it?
That sure makes sense.
Also, your grammar and spelling are horrendous, for a receptionist, that's pretty embarassing!

Kathy, I don't think these "receptionists" even earn an hourly wage. from what I read, they are only paid if they set appointments so they are basically telemarketers who are paid on a commission basis.

Katie in Omaha, Nebraska said: I'm a receptionist for Vector in Omaha and I've discussed with the other receptionists that the position DEFINITELY isn't for everyone. You're not paying the co. to work there, as others have commented, it's a safety deposit so you don't rip off the knives, which DO work insanely well.

And you don't work only on commission - our office offers a $15 base pay - if you get an appointment, then you get $15. Yeah, it's HARD work b/c you have to be a good sales representative, which includes being personable and well-expressed; most people aren't this way and they are SO quick to become bitter and angry. I deal with hundreds of applicants on a day-to-day basis and SO many immature, unprofessional people come through the office and leave shouting.

I understand why someone wouldn't want to be a rep - shoot, I don't even want to be!, but just b/c you'd be no good as selling like me, doesn't mean you have to be so bitter about it.

If you want to report Vector to some sort of bureau, your attempts will most likely be unsuccessful - there really is nothing to pin the company on. The interview process is unconventional - so what? The training isn't brainwashing, as some have said, they get the new reps pumped up for their appointments b/c they're nervous a/b direct sales.

Anyway, I understand why people would be upset, but I also think that those people are not made to work in DIRECT sales and I think if they were more open-minded, they wouldn't feel so jaded.

I'd love to answer any questions, if you have them!

Katie....If you are not paid an hourly wage regardless of whether you are able to make an appointment, then you ARE working on a commission only basis. Are you paid if you do not make appointments? Do you receive a paycheck for hours worked with taxes taken out? Receptionists in most companies are paid by the hour, not by the appointment. That is a commission based position, not a "base pay" position!

Sierra in Buffalo, New York said: To: Dan'Yiel in Raleigh, North Carolina

They wouldn't have you working five hours straight without a break first of all. They told you what the job entails when you came in for the interview, so there really is no reason you should be complaining. It's people like you that bring down our company. Vector Marketing gives a lot of great opportunities to young people. It clearly can't be true that they judge people if you got a job. No company would ever want someone as negative was you working for them. Maybe you should do your research on the company. I also want to point out, half the phones you do take, are people looking for a job. And the people you are calling were recommended, they aren't random. You should probably quit as soon as possible because you are only bringing your office down.
-One more thing. It's a base pay, not per hour...you yould know that if you were doing your job correctly.

Sierra...It's all "commission pay" if you are only making money when you set an appointment. If you are a receptionist, you whould be paid an hourly wage for "recepting" not for setting appoinments; that is a telemarketer, you brainwashed fool. I have worked for direct sales organizations for many years and have seen many successful salespeople. A few can earn very good money but most will come and go because they cannot bring themselves to sell $900 knives to people living in trailers. The successful direct salesperson will sell to anyone they can get financed and the ethics of most (not all) direct salespersons I have met are questionable to say the least.
Also...do you KNOW what kind of background check is done on the people hired for direct sales? Usually none because they are not employees of the company; they are independent reps. So to say that "we don't hire" 17 year olds without a high school diploma or GED is not exactly true when there is no check of education or employment background.

David in Baltimore, Maryland said: Nes, the ad is not deceptive. It just doesn't tell you anything about the position. Most advertisements for jobs don't, you have to go to the interview to find out about it. Plus who is going to pay for an ad that takes up tons of lines explaining about the position. And honestly, no one would come in if the ad says selling knives. The purpose of the ad is to get people into the interview room so that they can find out about the position and try out the product etc. Then, if they don't like it, then they don't have to accept it. It's that simple. They aren't forced to accept the position once they are in the interview.

Real jobs absolutely do tell you about the position available. What world are you living in? I would never answer an ad for a job that gave no description because I would know that it was most likely a direct sales, commission only position. That may be the key for all the young people out there. If there is no job description, you will pretty much be working on a commission basis and will not be earning an hourly wage. Some people do quite well in this field but if you are not comfortable selling very expensive items to your friends and family, you should think twice about taking such a position. The majority of "direct sales" products may indeed be good products, but are usually quite a bit more expensive than similar products you can find in retail stores and in order to get a jump start into the business, you will have to have sales or referrals from personal contacts unless you want to knock on doors.

THIS IS AN AD FOR A REAL JOBS PAYING REAL SALARY:
Receptionist / Switchboard Operator:
Must be highly motivated, well spoken, articulate, organized, and dependable. Excellent computer and written skills required. Must be Excel proficient. Must be able to multi-task while operating 12 incoming phone lines.
*Customer Service Supervisor:
3-5 years management experience required. Must be able to set goals and projections. Call center experience a MUST!
Both positions are located in an exceptionally clean, fast paced environment. Attention to detail required in ALL departments! Benefits: Health Insurance, Dental, 401K,
Vacation, and Holidays.

I've graduated from the Ohio State University this previous summer. I recieved a phone call from a Vector office and went in for the interview. I recieved the job, went through the training, and they informed me about the $135 sample kit. I paid for it due to the fact that they will refund you in you want your money back. I've been working for them for 5 months now and i've made $19,000.00. I've never made that much in my entire life. I work for a tech company know and Vector has helped me in many aspects of my future.

Christopher Kinger in Miami, Ohio said: I've never made that much in my entire life. I work for a tech company know and Vector has helped me in many aspects of my future.

Ashley Marie in Fort Wayne, Indiana said: Looks like OSU learned you the proper uses of homophones.

And also....perhaps Christopher should remember the grammar school rule of "i before e, except after c"! It amazes me that a college graduate could obtain a degree without basic vocubulary skills!
Christopher...you do not "work" for Carico, you work for yourself. Just remember that when the tax man comes looking for all those self employment taxes to cover the income taxes that were not taken out of your commission checks. You will receive a 1099 at the end of the year and must pay state, local and federal income tax, social security tax and disability tax. Your $19,000 for 5 months work won't seem so wonderful when you have to cough up half of it upon filing your tax returns! Hope that's not your real name...the IRS can find you now!

Donna1026 in Victor, New York said: And also....perhaps Christopher should remember the grammar school rule of "i before e, except after c"! It amazes me that a college graduate could obtain a degree without basic vocubulary skills!
Christopher...you do not "work" for Carico, you work for yourself. Just remember that when the tax man comes looking for all those self employment taxes to cover the income taxes that were not taken out of your commission checks. You will receive a 1099 at the end of the year and must pay state, local and federal income tax, social security tax and disability tax. Your $19,000 for 5 months work won't seem so wonderful when you have to cough up half of it upon filing your tax returns! Hope that's not your real name...the IRS can find you now!

Vocabulary skills too! Sorry...typo!

Okay, listen. I am a newer representative for a Vector office. I have heard alot of good things, along with plenty of bad things. But after having worked in my office for about 2 months now, I can say that I see how Vector can come across as "shady", but the things you learn once you are in help clear things up. This job is not for everyone. But for those who grab ahold and try CAN benefit.

In 2 months i have sold 10k in Cutco, this including 3 weeks off. It's not amazing, but I plan on furthering myself. I am also in the top 100 for the scholarship this campaign.

And on a different note; continuing on recomendations is not hard if you study and listen how to ask. I have not sold to any of my family members, and have not had an appointment with someone i personally, previously, knew in a very long time. I also personally know many people very high up in the company, along with previous scholarship winners. If you are successful in this job, than yes, you can make money. Plenty of it. If you are not good at this job, than you will notice it quickly and hopefully cut your losses and move on.

People do not like change. This Marketing Co. runs things differently than almost any other corporation around. Some see it as unethical, which is completely opinionated. But I think it is a very smart form of marketing, that does not take advantage of the youth, but actually gives them an opprotunity to learn marketing and social skills. Many many of the views and facts that I've read are twisted, whether you know it or not, and I do respect people's opinions, therefore I was just sharing mine.

This was a great summer job. The purchase in the begining was a bit of a cut but I made that money back and more in just one sell. when i was done with the job i kept my knives that were worth about $600 that i only bought for $100 and use them in my apartment. I loved the people i worked with and making my own hours. this job put easy cash in my pocket. And i definately didn't do door to door sales!!

Shan in Nashville, Tennessee said: This company calls you for an interview, and some people as soon as they walked back would walk right back out. Well come to find out he says that if he didn't like the way you looked when he first met you then he won't hire you. Then we find out that we are trying to sell knives and things. But of course he didn't mention the fact that we have to invest over a 100 bucks to start the job. We have to purchase the knives and then use that as our sells guide to show customers. This was the biggest scam I had ran across yet. Any business you have to invest money in to get hired, you should know it just ain't right!!!How do they expect you to purchase something like that and you are trying to get a job. Oh you don't want to talk about the door to door sales. Yeah you need to find your own people to sale to by the way. If this sounds like the job for you, then goodluck to you!!

I read your response to a person who previously responded to your comments. I DON'T WORK FOR THE COMPANY. it was stepping stool in between semesters. and it worked great. I might go back and work their again in between semester in 08 summer!

LMFAO! There it is AGAIN!!! A FAST FOOD reference made by a Vector employee. It's not even suprising or offending anymore. It's second nature to them!

I worked for Vector one summer and I loved it. If you have a work ethic and a passion for sales then you will excel at the job. While I was a rep I went to a conference and the showcase the reps (and regions) that have made TONS of money selling these knives.

I know Vector does seem like a scam to some, but I did well and I also gained a great deal of experience. Many of the skills I learned while working will be very useful in my future.

I have an interview tomorrow that I will be cancelling. Not because I am saying this is or isn't a scam, but because I am looking for a job with benefits right now. I am familiar with other companies that work like this. I am suprised after reading through all of these posts, none of this has been mentioned. They are not offering a "job". They are offering a business or in other words self-employement with no benefits. The presentations can actually be considered illegal if called interviews. They are not interviews, they are offers of self-employment. You are not an employee and this is not a job.

Also, I find it absolutely hilarious that the people for Vector keep visiting and posting on here. Do you realize that by doing this, you are raising the amount of how this and other forums come up on internet search engines? This is exactly why these sites come up right next to Vector's sites when you do a search.

How sad a company has to target those with little experience in these kinds of scams. Not ignorant people, just people who have little life experience, and those who have been out of work for a length of time and are desperate to pay the bills.
Even sadder that they need to try and do damage control on websites such as these. Those of you who are working for Vector are obvious here. Please don't take us for fools.
If you just apply some common sense here, it is more than obvious this is a scam.
To all those considering this, think of it this way...
Why in the world would you PAY someone for the "honor" of selling it? That just doesn't make any sense does it?
Kitchen knives? Uh....I can buy those anywhere, and much cheaper.
Even worse, going door to door? I don't know about you, but the last thing in the world I would consider doing in this day and age would be to let a stranger armed with knives into my house. Again, that just doesn't make any sense. Geez, even Avon doesn't do that anymore.
Got to give this company credit though. They have a work force that pretty much works for free and actually PAYS them for the privilige! Amazing! And, they have an unlimited supply of people from the college kids trying to make a buck.
I think they make all their money selling their kits to their new "employees" than any real selling. If someone came to my door or called me about this, I would either slam the door in their face or hang up on them. I don't care how "hard" you worked.
Please, don't give these people any money, spread the word to others that they will be taken, and we can put them out of business. Without new people buying their kits, they will shrivel up and die. But hey Vector, it was good while it lasted huh?
What bothers me most is the fact that their ads appear so frequently on the internet job sites. Perhaps these jobs sites should be informed? Or is it part of the scam? I am beginning to wonder now.

I applied for a job here at like 6 at night and when i got back home at 8 i noticed that they already called me for a interview...i said thats call went in the next day sat through a boring 90 minute lecture and joined up. (little backround about me, im a cook in the summer for a cruiseline up in Alaska) i got the knives and were interested in testing them out, so i went home and tried them and was highly disappointed, My global knife was sharper than the ones i just bought!!! and it was a a fraction of what these knives cost..all in all i say that Vector is a scam!