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Ashley Marie in Fort Wayne, Indiana 24 months ago |
LMFAO! There it is AGAIN!!! A FAST FOOD reference made by a Vector employee. It's not even suprising or offending anymore. It's second nature to them! |
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Milly A in Provo, Utah 24 months ago |
I worked for Vector one summer and I loved it. If you have a work ethic and a passion for sales then you will excel at the job. While I was a rep I went to a conference and the showcase the reps (and regions) that have made TONS of money selling these knives. |
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Milly A in Provo, Utah 24 months ago |
I know Vector does seem like a scam to some, but I did well and I also gained a great deal of experience. Many of the skills I learned while working will be very useful in my future. |
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Denis Jahnke in Appleton, Wisconsin 24 months ago |
I have an interview tomorrow that I will be cancelling. Not because I am saying this is or isn't a scam, but because I am looking for a job with benefits right now. I am familiar with other companies that work like this. I am suprised after reading through all of these posts, none of this has been mentioned. They are not offering a "job". They are offering a business or in other words self-employement with no benefits. The presentations can actually be considered illegal if called interviews. They are not interviews, they are offers of self-employment. You are not an employee and this is not a job. |
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Denis Jahnke in Appleton, Wisconsin 24 months ago |
Also, I find it absolutely hilarious that the people for Vector keep visiting and posting on here. Do you realize that by doing this, you are raising the amount of how this and other forums come up on internet search engines? This is exactly why these sites come up right next to Vector's sites when you do a search. |
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Cyndi DuPont in Cleveland, Ohio 24 months ago |
How sad a company has to target those with little experience in these kinds of scams. Not ignorant people, just people who have little life experience, and those who have been out of work for a length of time and are desperate to pay the bills.
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Icecold211 in Colorado Springs, Colorado 23 months ago |
I applied for a job here at like 6 at night and when i got back home at 8 i noticed that they already called me for a interview...i said thats call went in the next day sat through a boring 90 minute lecture and joined up. (little backround about me, im a cook in the summer for a cruiseline up in Alaska) i got the knives and were interested in testing them out, so i went home and tried them and was highly disappointed, My global knife was sharper than the ones i just bought!!! and it was a a fraction of what these knives cost..all in all i say that Vector is a scam! |
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Linda berisaj in Auburn Hills, Michigan 23 months ago |
mike a in Pompano Beach, Florida said: that is the most ignorant comment i've ever read. I began working for this company in 2005 and in one year made 50k as a part timer. I agree that it is hard to succedd if you are not capable of managing yourself. I can see what kind of people they hire. People that can't even spell Succeed. My brother works for the company and he doesn't even have a degree and he's the one hire the employees. He has been working there for 2 years, and he's not making no 50k a year. |
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Jeremy T in Birmingham, Alabama 23 months ago |
Ok this may be some of the most ignorant babbel I've ever heard! I'm here to be completely honest from the inside and I can tell the truth and I promise you no one on this stupid blog knows more about the ins and outs of this company than I do. 1.) Con: You might not be successful.
Honest observation: It is very rare that we find someone that is aggressive and does more than 5 demos a week be unsuccessful, it takes an outgoing person, but if someone is willing to go work the returns are unmatched. 2.) Con: Cutco is expensive which makes it harder to sell
Honest observation: I've seen Cutco made, I've done comparisons to Global, Shun, Whusthof, Henkles and all others. None are sharper or stay sharp longer than Cutco. It is the industry leader, site the CATRA tests for proof. 3.) Con: Some managers in this buisness are young and inexperienced and unable to help some reach their goals. Some managers are unethical and are interested in only money. Pro: There are however young professionls that know how to help their reps be successful in this buisness. There are managers in this company that are only in it to see the success stories, such as one of ours. Mexican, english was his second language, bad part of town, working construction. Now he's married, paid off a house, and is able to work less and focus on his future career. Honest observation: Ask anyone who's ever came out of our offices in Birmingham, and they will all tell you that the management was top notch. We make friends, not profit. Managers success is based of a reps success so they want you to do well and if you don't make money, then they don't either. Any questions? I'll post more as they need be answered. |
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Janee' in Murfreesboro, Tennessee 23 months ago |
So basically, I have a job tomorrow afternoon with Vector and this is not looking like the place for me. I will attend the interview but this all just seems fishy. So you ppl who work for Vector are saying that everyone who believes Vector is a scam is lazy, apathetic, stupid, unmotivated, and delusional? And you make money because you are ambitious, social, a hard worker, smart, and positive? I'm sorry but you're going to have to come up with a better argument than that! |
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Jeremy T in Birmingham, Alabama 23 months ago |
Janee' I can see your concern and believe me, its a pretty sound one. There are common factors to the people who hate this company and job. From a purely business stand point; they are the people who simply don't set up or do appointments.There are many reasons they don't. Some simply don't believe that people buy cutco, and if you think the price is too high, what do you think their one or two customers think? The most successful individuals in the business share some common threads as well, it is hard to set up appointments, and their are a lot of negatives sometimes to this industry so those who are successful share some common traits, good work ethic, positive attitude, and great social skills. I remember the cries from my parents too, get a real job, how long is this thing really gonna work? You should have a fall back. But I didn't listen, I went after it, worked hard, stayed positive when things got bad and now I make more than both my parents, and yes I do it selling kitchen knives. |
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Hecklin in Saint Cloud, Minnesota 23 months ago |
Shan in Nashville, Tennessee said: This company calls you for an interview, and some people as soon as they walked back would walk right back out. Well come to find out he says that if he didn't like the way you looked when he first met you then he won't hire you. Then we find out that we are trying to sell knives and things. But of course he didn't mention the fact that we have to invest over a 100 bucks to start the job. We have to purchase the knives and then use that as our sells guide to show customers. This was the biggest scam I had ran across yet. Any business you have to invest money in to get hired, you should know it just ain't right!!!How do they expect you to purchase something like that and you are trying to get a job. Oh you don't want to talk about the door to door sales. Yeah you need to find your own people to sale to by the way. If this sounds like the job for you, then goodluck to you!! name one sales company in which you don't have to purchase your starter kit. and name some that let you buy them at a fraction of their actual price. |
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Hecklin in Saint Cloud, Minnesota 23 months ago |
Matt in Fort Worth, Texas said: you're right each office is run differently as it has it's own owner. what i want to correct you about is... "It's because the office/branch gets paid more to have a lot of reps." the owner of the office only gets paid off what is sold. their pay is not based on number of reps. the office i work for has roughly 8 or 9 reps selling roughly 10,000-12,000 a week. |
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Denis Jahnke in Ramey Station, Puerto Rico 23 months ago |
He also gets part of all your commissions. Not saying it is wrong, just you did not mention it. It can be a successful part time positioon. I will also say AGAIN. You guys are independent contractors. This is NOT a job, it is a business opertunity, which equals self employed. |
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sarah h in Cedar Falls, Iowa 23 months ago |
Hecklin in Saint Cloud, Minnesota said: name one sales company in which you don't have to purchase your starter kit. and name some that let you buy them at a fraction of their actual price. direcTV... i am a sales person... ive made more money there than what i made at vector.... i dont have to drive anywhere (except to work ofcourse) i get great incentives not to mention great commission and benefits and people come to me because they know what a great product we sell..... i got none of that at vector oh yeah and free tv... sounds like this job is better.... vector is a bad job...
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Jeremy T in Birmingham, Alabama 23 months ago |
Great Sarah! I'm glad you have a good job with great benefits, direct tv is a great company now they they don't do mlm. Seriously congrats I know I wish I had free tv my crap costs $98 a month with flippin charter, if you can hook me up with something better email me jtodd601@hotmail.com. But don't knock vector, I bet it was on your resume for the job @ Direct TV, and even if not the training and communication experience helped you be a step ahead of others interviewing for your position. And dennis- yes we are independent contractors. But I have never, EVER had people take care of me better than my managers. And the company does provide many benefits, I have a Smith Barney Roth IRA with 12% compounding for retirement, and no management fees. And as long as they keep sending me to niagra falls, Prague, and Mexico for free, I'll say I work for Vector. |
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Jeremy T in Birmingham, Alabama 23 months ago |
Great Sarah! I'm glad you have a good job with great benefits, direct tv is a great company now they they don't do mlm. Seriously congrats I know I wish I had free tv my crap costs $98 a month with flippin charter, if you can hook me up with something better email me jtodd601@hotmail.com. But don't knock vector, I bet it was on your resume for the job @ Direct TV, and even if not the training and communication experience helped you be a step ahead of others interviewing for your position. And dennis- yes we are independent contractors. But I have never, EVER had people take care of me better than my managers. And the company does provide many benefits, I have a Smith Barney Roth IRA with 12% compounding for retirement, and no management fees. And as long as they keep sending me to niagra falls, Prague, and Mexico for free, I'll say I work for Vector. |
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Denis Jahnke in Ramey Station, Puerto Rico 23 months ago |
Let's not play the money game, I happen to be a financial consultant. Are they matching your funds at all? I didn't even say anything bad about Vector. Why the defense? It is true, you are not employees and it is not a job. You are all self-employed, Right? Why did that bother you? |
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Jeremy T in Birmingham, Alabama 23 months ago |
Sorry dennis I didn't mean to come off as defensive, i was just trying to elaborate on it. Yes according to my taxes I am self employed, which is really cool cause my expenses are always greater than taxes cause as a buisness owner I can write of meals, phone bills, business clothes, etc. But its not like they say ok do good we'll catch you later. They pay for so many things. They do have savings bonuses. They don't match but few companys do anything so thats not a big deal. Example: Lets say I save $4500 this year, they'll give me a savings bonus of $1500 so I actually saved $6k @ the age of 20, and as a financial consultant you know how huge that is with my IRA @ my age. Technically we aren't employeess, but all of our needs are supplied by Vector, they takes us on trips, to dinners, banquets, and I pay nothing to work for them, they provide everything I need. But being a successful, self-employed, 20 Year old is pretty cool, especially when you really don't have to do any extra work, you just have to sell. Thanks for calling me out on the defense though, sometimes I come across in ways I don't mean to. |
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Denis Jahnke in Ramey Station, Puerto Rico 23 months ago |
No problem, I'm self employed too. Good luck. |
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Jeremy T in Birmingham, Alabama 23 months ago |
Same to you dennis,Beautiful place you where you live. |
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Jeremy T in Birmingham, Alabama 23 months ago |
Cyndi DuPont in Cleveland, Ohio said: Cyndi you speak of people with no experience such as your self lets think about this. Sample kit = $147 deposit
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Crews in Birmingham, Alabama 23 months ago |
I'm a rep for cutco and i've very much enjoyed my time here. I'm a professional DJ that makes a rate of $75 an hour and most weeks, I actually make more money working for Vector. I personally would not reccomend the position to anyone. You do have to be self-motivated because you will fail in this business if you aren't. The people who don't succeed aren't lazy, they just didn't realize when they took the job how much effort it would take to be successful. So the bottom line is that with Vector you will make more money than most jobs for college students, but you will also have to push yourself much harder than at a regular job. I will say this, people who do well with vector, on average, make higher incomes coming out of college than people who come out of college having worked "usual jobs". Not to knock people who work those jobs, everybody does at some point. Vector is just more for people who are ready to make more money and gain better experience in the business world. |
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Crews in Birmingham, Alabama 23 months ago |
Excuse me, but I made a typo, haha. I wouldn't recommend the job to JUST anyone. But for the record, I would recommend the job. lol |
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Rachie in Madison, Wisconsin 23 months ago |
Vector is not a scam, you dont need to buy anything...if you have to buy the knives how come when people quit or get fired they return the kits???huh??? they are borrowed so you can do your stupid presentation..... |
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Kate M in Tennessee 23 months ago |
Let me preface this by saying that I'm a full-time student and I have a job where I make really good money. Vector has called me twice in the past few months, mentioning that someone I BARELY knew from high school had recommended me to work there. Even though Vector may not completely be a scam, I feel it is extremely rude and scam-ish for a company to call people to come in for interviews. What bothers me about Vector is that they're so misleading. I understand that some people can do really well at Vector; some people are great with sales. However, most people are not good at sales. Everyone keeps saying you have to be self-motivated to succeed at Vector; I think it's more that you have to have a sales personality. Drive doesn't do much if you're not charming. And in my opinion, it is something of a scam to seek out college students to sell your product, even though most college students are too young to have developed any sort of sales personality. I guess it does work out for a few, but it really bothers me that they call me at my home, throw out the name of some idiot I hardly knew in high school, tell me nothing whatsoever about the job except the pay, and immediately try to set up an interview. The first time I tried to be nice, but this last time I told them to take my name off whatever list they had because I didn't want to deal with anymore of their bull. |
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Cyndi DuPont in Cleveland, Ohio 23 months ago |
Jeremy T,
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Jeremy T in Birmingham, Alabama 23 months ago |
Cyndi DuPont in Cleveland, Ohio said: Jeremy T, |
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Jeremy T in Birmingham, Alabama 23 months ago |
sorry *field |
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Cyndi DuPont in Cleveland, Ohio 23 months ago |
HA Ha Ha.... You got Christmas cards because you impacted their lives by selling them over-priced knives??? You feel that was life altering do you? How old are you anyways? You know what? You sound perfect for this company, so stick with it. (pun intended) Perhaps you should lose some of the hostility however, maybe next year you will get 18 cards from those people whose life you have changed so wonderfully!!!! Your a riot |
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Cyndi DuPont in Cleveland, Ohio 23 months ago |
Oh, and by the way.. The problem with these forums is that you never really know who you are conversing with do you? You might really want to keep that in mind.... |
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chris ludvik in Rego Park, New York 23 months ago |
uh, are you currently in a home for retards and can you learn to speak english before you ever write another word? if you're saying that about investing your own money into it then any job that you have to travel to "ain't right!!!!" because you're spending money on traveling to and from the job, aren't you? right, ok, so shut up. I live in NY(that's New York) so if you want come up here |
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chris ludvik in Rego Park, New York 23 months ago |
Miranda in Marlboro, New York said: I agree....I too fell for this stupis scam. Except i didnt pay for the knives. Because by the time they said that we had to pay for them, i never came back. --learn english before you attack a company, douche |
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Jeremy T in Birmingham, Alabama 23 months ago |
Umm... is that supposed to be intimidating Cyndi, because its not. Chris, I know you get fired up, but lets be nice dude, their mediocrity is up to them, just share the honesty and what really goes on, not what a friend of my cuz said that this wuz a scam. They can keep doing whatever and we will sell them cutco in the future, and last thing cyndi, maybe you should read every consumer report on cutco, find one where it isn't rated best buy or value. Once again ignorance isn't a trait, only a lack of information, but if you want to attack blindly, then keep looking like a fool, i really don't care. and i'm 20 to inform you. You may think thats funny but I'd like to see you and i interview for the same job and then we could laugh about that, don't underestimate the power of vector, Pfizer yes thats right, is already recruiting me for after I graduate, and I doubt its from my 2.5 gpa and my resturant experience. |
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Joan White in Greenville, South Carolina 23 months ago |
I am disappointed in a company which ran a ad saying they was hiring and when I got there we was lined up and had to listen to a sales pitch this was not really a job where they pay us. but they was trying to get us to pay them and buy a set of knifes |
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Joan White in Greenville, South Carolina 23 months ago |
yes Vector does mis represent it self and I was almost hired by them. and while they say you have to purchase the knives , if is a demo set to help aell the knives it is only my opinion, but I feel like this should be provided by the company, and when a employee sells a couple sets of knives then they should deduct the cost of their over head and from then on there are no worrys.........People are hurting and needing jobs now, not scams thank you so much for your time |
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Sev in Slidell, Louisiana 23 months ago |
I am a college student really hurting for money so I called the number that I got off of one of the 100's of posters posted around my college campus.
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Sev in Slidell, Louisiana 23 months ago |
to play sales person for a little while. The day dragged on with more word for word, by the book directions on how to sell the knives... so it seemed a little fishy. I just got a bad vibe off of the place and then I knew it was too good to be true when they laid the "deposit" line on us about the knives. I am getting a job because I need to make money, not because I have money to spend. Fact of it is, I need a job for medical expenses, I don't have that money to drop on a set of knives.
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Sev in Slidell, Louisiana 23 months ago |
We were told by the manager that he felt we were the best in the group and that he wanted to spend some extra time with us to go over advanced selling techniques. He also told us to go home and write down a list of 50 or more over 30, employed, living in a home, married couples we knew. (I don't know many) He said that in our first 10 days, he could help us get a pay check of $2,000+. He insinuated that he would help us get referrals and said "I would like to work with everyone like this.... but I don't have time, so only you guys are getting in on this because I feel you are the best. THEN IT HIT ME The immorality of what I was about to do: |
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Sev in Slidell, Louisiana 23 months ago |
1. I can't get my family and friends to buy this product in order to help me support myself and earn back money "deposited" on those knives, THEY don't have the money and I don't want them giving it to me out of pity, half of them are still in FEMA trailers.
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Sev in Slidell, Louisiana 23 months ago |
6. You know why myself and those 5 others were pulled aside, because we are articulate, out going, and obviously sincere people. We don't hold back. We are REAL. Vector, and anyone trying to sell something knows, that customers like sincere people. You are more likely to sell. Well, you can use that sincerity to make people believe anything, but when you are using your sincerity to deceive people into buying a product that isn't really as good as they say it is (do some research on the "World finest Cutlery a.k.a. Cutco) you cease to be sincere. You cease to be geniune, you are what you out of instinct hate as a genuine person, and that is a liar and a fraud. I refuse to have my love of people, something that has always empowered me positively, to be used as some corporate tool. I will take my reputation and honesty over that $2,000+ check any day. Follow your heart, if money doesn't blind you, chances are this place won't feel right to you. Best Wishes,
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Sev in Slidell, Louisiana 23 months ago |
Oh and one more thing: I have noticed that many (NOT ALL) Vector employees on here repeatedly insult people who work in the fast food industry, as if it is below them. Well, lets be honest here. I think most people will agree, that though they are paid much less and under appreciated, there is more of need for fast food workers than knife salesmen. After all, we NEED to eat. We don't NEED your knives. Also, who would make your lazy you-know-what lunch? Certainly not you, because you seem to be so above stooping to such a level. I would shine the shoes of a Mcdonald's worker years before I would tip my hat to you, you spineless, lazy, corporate scum. (And don't say "Well, they need our knives to cook" No they don't, I have a set of JC Penney knives that work great. I think I will go slice an apple right now. Plenty of not-so-suspicious companies make knives that work just fine for everyday use.) |
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Sev in Slidell, Louisiana 23 months ago |
The above response comes from someone whose arguments have consisted of attacking spelling and calling someone a "douche." (And strangely believes I am fat without ever seeing me) o.O (As if being obese is a character flaw, chris ludvik?) But anyways, lets not digress from Vector, because that is all I have seen you try and do: Make naysayers angry with your insults which causes divergence from the topic at hand. If you want to post on here, say something useful, don't make juvenile attacks on grammar and practice name calling. Maybe you need to be in a "home for retards," take their class on forming a valid argument before you post here again. Most of the Vector supporters I have seen post here have been nothing but rude. I certainly have not been rude about the company, I stated exactly what I experienced. I HAVE attacked the rudeness and unnecessary remarks though because I feel that they are disrespectful to others and there is no need for that, regardless of whether or not you are pro-Vector or not. Always with best wishes,
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Ashley Marie in Fort Wayne, Indiana 23 months ago |
Sev, you rock! Thank you for your input! |
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chris ludvik in Rego Park, New York 23 months ago |
hicks |
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Kates in St. Cloud, Minnesota 23 months ago |
I am in the same situation... I went for the interview, and got the job. Apparently i'm one of the 20% they hire, but so was my brother and 4 of his friends. i dont feel comfortable about this either, especially being a woman making house calls. what did you end up doing? my brother and his friends decided not to show, but i'm afraid that would be unprofessional. but then again, i dont want to call them and be harassed about why I decided not to take the job. |
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Kates in St. Cloud, Minnesota 23 months ago |
Kevin in Port Clinton, Ohio said: I just got set up for an interview by Amanda, the receptionist in Ohio. She was friendly and prompt (on the phone, atleast). After doing more research on what exactly Vector does, I decided that this job is not for me... So I won't be going to the interview tomorrow. i think you're right kevin, i think that vector can be a good company to work for and i dont think it is a scam. i learned a lot in the interview about it, and have done my research. what i thought was weird though was that they say they only hire a select few, but everyone i know that went to an interview was hired. and i also thought it was weird that the interview was more like a pre training session for the ones to come. it was not like any other interview i have ever had. they didnt ask me one question about my self. this thing isnt for me. i am not going to the training sessions. i dont think they are a scam, but something isnt right. |
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Kates in St. Cloud, Minnesota 23 months ago |
chris ludvik in Rego Park, New York said: fatty Chris- your behavior is ridiculously immature. |
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Kates in St. Cloud, Minnesota 23 months ago |
Sev- great input, it was really helpful |
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chris ludvik in Rego Park, New York 23 months ago |
you are absolutely right, wanna go hang someone? |
