Vector marketing-- Big scam

oh yeah, sev, the reason why i said that is because only deadbeat fat, ignorant, other stupid names, go to fast food restaurants, if you think for three seconds, it's not only healthier, but also cheaper and more fun to buy your own food from a supermarket and cook it. idiot

Sev I'm sorry about chris.
Look I understand your concern but I can personally vouch for the manager you have. Was your office in Metarie or Northshore?

yes, I understand that alot of young people are taken
in by this and it looks really good and I am sure that
there maybe some young people that have the funds to buy a set of knifes and take a chance that they will be able to set up these appointments and be able to sell a couple of sets themselves.......But My problem is that it is mis represented in the ads and people answer the ads thinking it is one thing when it is something else. I wish that they wouldn't prey on the young people and let them squander the money exspecially if this is a out of work young person who cant afford to take the gamble they will do well.......not everyone is cut out to sell.............I am not angry I am just voicing my opinion and I am old enough and wise enough to know we can't all agree, but I also hope we can all be respectful and listen and hear out people who may disagree with our views.........thanks so much for allowing me to have a voice

taymar from cincinnati in Cincinnati, Ohio said: its funny how all these people claim vector is a scam but still don't have a job. just because you actually have to invest your time and do work and not sit on your ass and ride the clock all day does not mean its a bad job. you have to work to get paid. isnt that how its supposed to work? how can you complain about having a flexable schedule? for all you people that have an issue about the sample kit, ask your self how are you supposed to sell a product the customer cant see or use? dont people use their products in an infomercial? its basically the same thing but your live and in people homes that want to see the product and is expecting you to come. if you want to quit the position, you can return the kit and get your money back or keep the kit. its that simple. so basically what im trying to say is just becase your close minded and sat on your lazy ass and had a bad experience with the company doesnt make us a scam. we wouldnt be apart of the better business bueru if we was a scam. and people wonder why they dont have a job lol.

Yes, my personal opinion about this Marketing group is
they misrepresent theirselves. I have worked hard for many many years, and because of a physical problem had to look for another career field...Not a scam field. here is my problem with my particular interview process. Here is the facts......The ad read appointment setters and clerical.
I was called in for a interview. I ask about the pay up front, and they told me they would discuss the wages with me at the job interview. There was no job interview, it was a sales pitch and after that they talked about how much I would have to pay not how much I would be paid......so just because my opinion is different from yours I am not a lazy person who is afraid of hard work......all one has to do is look at what I have done over many many years......I am not afraid of good honest hard work, but I do know misrepresentation

I know there are alot of people that think they are legit. and for the most part maybe they are to a degree or they would have been shut down by now. But maybe also there is a degree of misrepresentation. So all I am saying is when ya go to one of these sales pitche(lets call it what it is) listen , think it over, if your willing to gamble your hard earn money and think you might make it back, then good for you. But not everyone can do it and that doesn't make the ones that cant a failure and it doesn't mean they don't want to work......But maybe just maybe some people are out of work and need money and don't have it to give away. Oh and on a final note when I was at one of these functions there was no mention that we would ever get our money back. Mabey this was just a oversight, I really don't know

I recently responded to one of Vector's ads in the paper. I was granted an interview the next day. I arrived a little over 15 mins. earlier only to find no one there except 4 other people for the same interview. The next day, I received a call saying that I had not reported to the interview and would be given the "chance" to schedule another interview. When I said that I had indeed reported to the interview but had to leave empty-handed, the receptionist then changed everything up and said that their must have been a mix uo in managers. But the door was locked...and the building was closed for the entire day...

I actually asked the GM that was heading the traning why they don't just take the money out of your check. He told me simply that it's because people could just leave and never come back once they have the set.

shan in Nolensville, Tennessee said: Yeah right you must be one of the people trying to hire folks to do this so called business. Isn't it funny how you are the only one that says something good about it. Makes people think. Read the other post. I am not the only one that knows about how this company is a HUGE SCAM!!!! Come on folks how real is it that you made 50k in one year. Like I said you are the one that's probably trying to hire people for this business wasting their time. Misleading them in the ads and everything else. Don't be pulled into the lies folks it's just not true and it just isn't going to work like that. I don't care where you live and who you know and what you do, the only ones that profit are the ones in the ownership of the business. Of course unless you invest in this scam and find some old couple that has nothing better to do with their money and falls for the tired sales pitch and pay for some knives that cost an arm and a leg. I don't even think it's too many of those people left. Just be prepared to go door to door knocking, begging and trying to sell. How about that!!!!!!

I'm not an owner of the company but i am a brand new employee and i will be posting every now and then to update my progress. Quite frankly i think that ur just bein an a$$ but if that's how u want to be then thats what u are, cool, no poblem. Like some of the positive repliers have said u should actually do ur research (go work there) before u backlash something so avidly.

Sarah in Cedar Falls, Iowa said: i need to take legal action because i was a receptionist and two weeks later after my i quit i still havent gotten my check that is why i need to take legal action,

No you just need to stop whinnin and go get ur damn check, you quit so really it's up to u to do something about it, ur not their employee anymore so it's not their responsibility.

Joan White in Greenville, South Carolina said: yes Vector does mis represent it self and I was almost hired by them. and while they say you have to purchase the knives , if is a demo set to help aell the knives it is only my opinion, but I feel like this should be provided by the company, and when a employee sells a couple sets of knives then they should deduct the cost of their over head and from then on there are no worrys.........People are hurting and needing jobs now, not scams thank you so much for your time

With all the people at the interview (done to find the, "pick of the litter" ((so to speak)) they would lose money giving all those people a free set of knives, that by the way still come with a gaurentee

Donnell in Atlanta, Georgia said: No you just need to stop whinnin and go get ur damn check, you quit so really it's up to u to do something about it, ur not their employee anymore so it's not their responsibility.

it is thier responsiblity to give me my check because i performed a service for them so they were required by law to give me my check.... i called several times i stopped by the office as well so i think all of you vector people need to know what your talking about before you comment on anothers situation. you may have a good experience at vector but i know i didnt and alot of other people havent so why dont you go preach some where else!!!!!!1

Kate M in Tennessee said: Let me preface this by saying that I'm a full-time student and I have a job where I make really good money. Vector has called me twice in the past few months, mentioning that someone I BARELY knew from high school had recommended me to work there. Even though Vector may not completely be a scam, I feel it is extremely rude and scam-ish for a company to call people to come in for interviews.

What bothers me about Vector is that they're so misleading. I understand that some people can do really well at Vector; some people are great with sales. However, most people are not good at sales. Everyone keeps saying you have to be self-motivated to succeed at Vector; I think it's more that you have to have a sales personality. Drive doesn't do much if you're not charming. And in my opinion, it is something of a scam to seek out college students to sell your product, even though most college students are too young to have developed any sort of sales personality.

I guess it does work out for a few, but it really bothers me that they call me at my home, throw out the name of some idiot I hardly knew in high school, tell me nothing whatsoever about the job except the pay, and immediately try to set up an interview. The first time I tried to be nice, but this last time I told them to take my name off whatever list they had because I didn't want to deal with anymore of their bull.

...wellllll...that "idiot" had to know your number...so, who is the idiot here?
"keep your words sweet, one day you might have to eat them"
-the jewelry man

Ashley in Fort Wayne, Indiana said: Weighing a decision on hundreds of ppl's experiences and opinions differs GREATLY from 'not making a decision yourself'. People on here aren't LAZY, in fact, the opposite, because they took the initiative 2 research. I'm sure that if mommy and daddy wouldn't have bought your knife set, you would have second-guessed the company. If you've never worked a real job, 2 days of unpaid training are alright with you, so you wouldn't second-guess the V.
Some of us aren't quite so naive. Good luck selling knives in whichever neighborhood you choose today!

i've had four jobs BEFORE i worked with vector, and yhea 2 days of unpaid training was allright with me but the THREE days that i did pissed me off! I'm still working with vector, just to see how far i can really go i'm 19 and im not some ego driven douche out to make a buck, just someone that sees an oportunity to get ahead, and ridin the wave with my hand on my balls. If you look at life you take chances im pretty sure u have, u took one by posting on this page, u didn't know what you would get back, but you did it anyway, same way some people stick with the job. If the job is bad than quit, if not get fired. I've been working since i hit 15, and the one thing that stays true is that EVERY job, is not for EVERYBODY.

sarah h in Cedar Falls, Iowa said: it is thier responsiblity to give me my check because i performed a service for them so they were required by law to give me my check.... i called several times i stopped by the office as well so i think all of you vector people need to know what your talking about before you comment on anothers situation. you may have a good experience at vector but i know i didnt and alot of other people havent so why dont you go preach some where else!!!!!!1

I work at Vector and know of a girl..we'll call her s/marah as well as her former mg's as well as her stats. She got her check and were only threatend to not get get it due to the fact that she spent 8 hours a day on facebook and had the worst numbers in the region. Maybe if she actually did her job and wasnt on facebook and taking smoke breaks all the time 'which she did heavily' every 10 minutes her former manager would of been more ampt to give her her check right away...not to mention...SHE QUIT 3 MINUTES BEFORE WALKING OUT THE DOOR. FOR THE RECORD I AM TYPING THIS AT HOME..NOT ON THE CLOCK. Get some work ethic.

kris in wisconsin in eau claire, Wisconsin said: I work at Vector and know of a girl..we'll call her s/marah as well as her former mg's as well as her stats. She got her check and were only threatend to not get get it due to the fact that she spent 8 hours a day on facebook and had the worst numbers in the region. Maybe if she actually did her job and wasnt on facebook and taking smoke breaks all the time 'which she did heavily' every 10 minutes her former manager would of been more ampt to give her her check right away...not to mention...SHE QUIT 3 MINUTES BEFORE WALKING OUT THE DOOR. FOR THE RECORD I AM TYPING THIS AT HOME..NOT ON THE CLOCK. Get some work ethic.

ok "kris is wisconsin" the only reason i worked for vector as a receptionist is because i could play on facebook for 8 hours a day and also take smoke breaks whenever i wanted. i think that if my former manager would of cared then they would of fired me, but obviously they didnt so i basically got paid for sitting down and playing on facebook and also dont forget myspace i was on there alot to.... so sure if my former manager wouldnt give me a break for working 8 hours a day i would sneak the occasional smoke or maybe even leave 10 or maybe 15 minutes early every day but hey i got to do basically whatever i wanted to because the person i was working with for was to spineless to say anything to me so i basically did what i wanted which was fine because i was getting paid crap anyways. and i did get my final pay check and if you see my former manager again you can tell him i did get another job without using him as a reference ((THANK GOD!!!! I WAS WORRIED I COULDNT GET A JOB WITHOUT WORKING AT VECTOR FIRST!!!))

You didnt get fired because obviously a retarded monkey can do your job. I never implied you needed to work at vector. I'm sure your life will be grand and full of advancement at direct tv telemarketing. You shouldnt slam a company because your bitter. Im not a sales rep..because im no good at it. I know that. but im not going to turn around and call it a scam. You were a receptionist so you know what the company is about you know its not a scam. It's run differantly then other companies mind you. I dont think it's right to slam a company because you had a less then desirable boss. Does your new fantastic job have a dental plan?....just asking

ok so i admit its alittle creepy that you know so much about me..... so i think im going to leave this forum before you show up at my home and try to sell me some crappy, over priced, rusted out knives i hope everybody at vector has fun wasting the rest of thier lives at vector but im certainly done wasting my time with you people and vector (door to door sales) marketing.....

oh and kris it seems like you responded pretty quick to me last night it makes me think that you have nothing better to do but sit on your computer on a saturday night and insult someone over the internet, wow what a life..... dick!!!

It's true I was sitting at home on my computer with messenger os which why i responded so quickly because i saw the comment right after you sent it. Insulting would imply I was lieing...which I wasnt. Obviously. I know so much about you because I talk to reps from your previous office at confrences and etc. Further more if I said something that was not a fact then I appoligize. Unlike some people I do not blantly slander.
My intent origianly was to say I would like to think I would check something out for myself and not take someone elese word or soem online opionin. I'd like to think i am a smart enough person to make up my own mind not let some forum make it for me.

alrighty...i have not posted on here FOREVER..but i still get the emails..and i just like to catch up every once in a while..first off...how does the company get your number?? well..because of the telemarketing act..they cant just call u..but instead..what they do is tell u when they hire you..u will get "bonus" points or whatever...to get some free stuff if you come up with some names and numbers..and all they say is that they will contact them..if they told me they would call my friends and harass them and call them twice a day about a job interview.and mention MY name everytime..i would have told them to shove that list up their a$$...thats the first bullcrap lie...next off..they say "OMG YOU HAVE TO COME IN TODAY...OR OMG...TOMMOROW IS OUR ONLY OPENING!!!" well..let me tell u how it works...they login in to a computer(where all your information is registered) and thats where a computer genereated script(that automatically adds all names and other information) into the computer...and then they have typical responses for questions....that they HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SCRIPT..to trick you into coming in for an "interview" which is exactly like a sales pitch..like..they are begging you to come work for them..and i have NEVER seen ANYONE get turned down...i was the number one sales rep at our office..and was a "assistant" manager(which actually i got some real cash out of..more than i was selling..lol) so i have done "interviews" and when u bring them into your office for the final part..basically...its like this...either you say..hell no i dont want the job..or okay..ill do it...then there is the 18 hour training session where they brainwash you into doing it...but heres the trick...they dont let u ask questions untill after everything is over..y...y u ask...because they dont want to answer them..not becuase they will cover them..they have to brainwash you before they can finally tell you that they want you to spend 200 dollars on a kit..and you that you dont get a base

pay..or anything...for that matter thats its commision only..and that it is the managers decision to give it to you or not..and guess what..you dont get it...i had sooo many people complaining about that...and to anyone that reads this..i am not "bashing" the company..i am just bashing their recruiting tecniques..because..it is straight forward 100% deceptive..and bullcrap...but..as far a job..its not for everyone..its for sales people only..and to make any money at it..you have to be good at selling..period...if you are not...then dont ever try..and dont fall into the bullcrap...peace...and if anyone would ever like to chat about this..get some inside information from a experienced ex employee(or any hot females..lol..) my aim is iao0195...i will answer any questions if i am on..and feel free to ask anything about the company...if i know..ill answer..and furthermore..its a job that if you take it..you have to work hard..and if you know how to sell..you can make a LOT of money at it..especially at fsm levels..which is not hard to reach(i made it there in 9 weeks...) which is at a 50% commision level...before that it rapidly goes up from 10% on up...trust me..its takes no time at all..10% is not that much..but u are at 25% before you know it..and thats when it gets good..so my advice..dont quit your day job..untill you reach that...because..it was a little bit hard to start..but once you get there it is worth it..i promise

it's interesting how the only people that bash vector are the people that don't do well. i've been working for vector since the summer, and got into the management candidate program. a lot of what your saying doesn't make any sense. you said that a lot of people lose money? how? the knives are completely refundable. if vector didnt require reps to put a small security payment on the knives, how many knives do you think the company would get back? i guess that a lot of people have a problem with working with vector because they feel like just because they show up, they should get paid. it doesn't work like that. vector pays you for the work that you put in. if you do your phone time like you are supposed to, you'll get appointments. most people sell on those appointments. however, even if you can't sell anything, you still get that base rate of pay! i'm sorry if people think that they can just show up, put no effort in, and get paid. things don't work like that. and there is no cold calling or door to door. you only work through people you know or have gotten references to. and working here is pretty flexible. if you can't come in for a phone jam or book more appointments, the managers don't get upset with you or anything. the only reason they push you a little, is to help you out and encourage you to try harder. they only want you to do well and it definitely ends up benefiting you in th end. maybe if you had stuck with vector a little longer, you would see what the company is really about. after working with the company for months, i realized that it really isn't about selling knives. the knives are amazing ! but it's more about knowing that you can do anything you set your mind to as long as you believe in yourself. i work in the rockville office, the number 1 rookie office, and all the reps here are extremely close..it's just like a big family here. when we go into pushes, we all support one another and try to help each other out.

we actually just got out of the cancun push. sell 6k in a week and go to cancun!! sounds crazy right? well a good amount of reps here are going to cancun!! vector really isn't the job for everyone. but our top reps are extremely bright, confident, have amazing people skills, are successful, and will go on to do amazing things in life. it's unfortunate that you guys didn't have a good time with vector..but for myself and a lot of others, it has been an incredible experience. when people insult vector i feel like they are talking about my best friend haha..i love working here!!! you know, one of our top reps here just got selected for an amazing internship next year..only 8 spots in the entire country. vector was all she had on her resume and the first job she had!

I have a job interview with Vector on Friday. I haven't decided if I'm going to go yet. I have a friend (a reliable trustworthy friend) who suggested the job to me. I've known this friend for two years, and I know him to be someone of great character who wouldn't lie to me. All I know, is that whether or not I decide to go to the interview, it will be MY decision, based on what I'VE researched on the company. And "research" does not include blogs like this. I am most surprised to see how Vector employees are responded to on this website. Who are any of you to call anyone else a liar? I know firsthand that my friend makes a lot of money working for Vector... he takes me out to lunch frequently and cashes hundreds of dollars of paychecks in one week. I'll probably be accused of "working for vector just to talk them up" or of being a "liar" and lots of other stupid things. Thankfully I could care less what anyone thinks. I just hope that other college students like me can learn to think for themselves and decide what they want to do for their career on their own. If I were working for vector, I don't think I would encourage anyone to think for themselves, but that is exactly what I'm saying. If you think it's scam, good for you, I just hope you came to that conclusion after doing thoughtful, extensive research. Likewise, anyone who DOES decide to join the company, should do so after thoughtful extensive research. Don't make decisions based on the comments on this website. Think for yourselves.

All this stuff is so hilarious. Its so pathetic how people actually waste their time to say horrible things about such an amazing job. especially if you didn't actually work with Vector. Anyways... I have made over $7,000 in only a short few months and it is by far the best job I've ever had. I'm already an assistant manager and have recruited many of my friends who also love the job. I have learned more about business, life and relationships than I could have ever expected.
ps. they also sent me to Disney World for 4 days

Shan in Nashville, Tennessee said: This company calls you for an interview, and some people as soon as they walked back would walk right back out. Well come to find out he says that if he didn't like the way you looked when he first met you then he won't hire you. Then we find out that we are trying to sell knives and things. But of course he didn't mention the fact that we have to invest over a 100 bucks to start the job. We have to purchase the knives and then use that as our sells guide to show customers. This was the biggest scam I had ran across yet. Any business you have to invest money in to get hired, you should know it just ain't right!!!How do they expect you to purchase something like that and you are trying to get a job. Oh you don't want to talk about the door to door sales. Yeah you need to find your own people to sale to by the way. If this sounds like the job for you, then goodluck to you!!

All this stuff is so hilarious. Its so pathetic how people actually waste their time to say horrible things about such an amazing job. especially if you didn't actually work with Vector. Anyways... I have made over $7,000 in only a short few months and it is by far the best job I've ever had. I'm already an assistant manager and have recruited many of my friends who also love the job. I have learned more about business, life and relationships than I could have ever expected.
ps. they also sent me to Disney World for 4 days

I was in the Management Program to but after looking at the financial information that they provided for me I found that they were giving you money to get started and then taking it back. They never said that you would have to pay that money for starting up back. They just made a huge point of saying that the company gives you 9K to start. Like a company would really GIVE you that much money. Also, I have had to give up family events and holiday gatherings for this company. They brainwash you into thinking that Memorial Day, 4th of July, Labor Day, Christmas, and New Year's are good times to sell because people are home then. Well, yes people are home but they are probably going to be doing things with family just as the reps should be doing things with family. I sold over 35K with this company and the money is not bad. But the things they trick you into believing are horrible. I can not see how there has not been government action taken against this company for the labor that they make college students do and for the cult-like activites that Vector does. I also can not believe that I was going to be a manager for this company. I love the knives but I will never let my friends or my kids work for this company. I will buy the rest of my Cutco directly from the factory.

I went to my interview yesterday. Initially i was excited and redy to start selling knives. After thinking about it more though i relize that in my current situation it would be tough at best to succeed in this work. I think it can be a good oppertunity for people in the right situation with lots of contacts and a back up job or support net of some kind. Personally i think it is to risky for me but i wish best of luck for anyone planning on attempting this!!!!

ScammedbyVector in Pennsylvania said: I was in the Management Program to but after looking at the financial information that they provided for me I found that they were giving you money to get started and then taking it back. They never said that you would have to pay that money for starting up back. They just made a huge point of saying that the company gives you 9K to start. Like a company would really GIVE you that much money. Also, I have had to give up family events and holiday gatherings for this company. They brainwash you into thinking that Memorial Day, 4th of July, Labor Day, Christmas, and New Year's are good times to sell because people are home then. Well, yes people are home but they are probably going to be doing things with family just as the reps should be doing things with family. I sold over 35K with this company and the money is not bad. But the things they trick you into believing are horrible. I can not see how there has not been government action taken against this company for the labor that they make college students do and for the cult-like activites that Vector does. I also can not believe that I was going to be a manager for this company. I love the knives but I will never let my friends or my kids work for this company. I will buy the rest of my Cutco directly from the factory.

Not only is that a complete lie, cult like? Yea drink the vector punch or you're fired. What exactly are you trying to prove. I think someone had a falling out.

wow what are you on?? this is so NOT true. it's hard to believe that someone who says they did so well, has all these terrible, false things to say about vector. for someone who says they sold 35k, you of all people should know that they don't brainwash you. which makes me believe that you really didn't sell 35k or even got into the management program. and i have NEVER heard of any office trying to make their reps do apps on christmas or new years. i started up a few days before july 4th..they sugguested that it might help if we try to get some apps before the holiday since people are going to be having bbqs and huge get togethers..but they never forced you to do anything. they left it up to you. i did 2 or 3 quick apps july 4th morning..i was done by 1pm and sold about 5-6k in a matter of 3 hours. i'm happy i took their advice. and yes, you do have to put in some money to start up YOUR OWN office in the summer. it's really not that much money. plus, you end up getting so much out of it! and what "cult" activities do they make you do?? i am in management and i know almost all of the management team after spending so much time with them at meetings and conferences and stuff. that is a complete lie. the top cutco reps and management team are some of the most amazing people i've ever met. you have no right to bash us. i have formed life long relationships with those "cult" members. it makes my blood boil hearing you say such terrible lies about such an amazing company. just because you couldn't do well with the company, doesn't mean you should sit there are talk trash about them. we have all worked so hard to get where we are today. we don't need people like you, making things up and trash talking a company that you obviously know nothing about. people like you don't deserve to work for vector.

I AM A RECEPTIONIST AT VECTOR AND I BELIEVE THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE, YOUR NOT LOSING ANYTHING BY COMING IN FOR AN INTERVIEW, IT MIGHT END UP BEING SOMETHING YOU ARE REALLY GOOD AT. WHY NOT TRY IT OUT FOR 90 MINUTES? LISTEN TO WHAT ITS REALLY ABOUT....HUH?
DONT BE SO JUDGEMENTAL ABOUT IT. YEAH WE ARE IN A SMALL OFFICE BUILDING, BUT THATS ALL WE NEED... WE ARE REPRESENTED BY THAT ONE ROOM, IT TELLS YOU ALL ABOUT US, VECTOR IS VERY SUCCESSFUL BELIEVE IT OR NOT....AND ALL THE COMPANY WANTS IS TO GIVE STUDENTS AN EASY MONEY EARNING SYSTEM THAT REALLY WORKS...STUDENTS NEED MONEY, WITH COLLEGE COSTS AND EVERYTHING, ITS JUST COMMON SENSE. RIGHT? SO JUST A LITTLE ADVISE, DONT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS....VECTOR MARKETING IS JUST OFFERING YOU A CHANCE OF A LIFETIME, DONT PASS IT UP JUST BECAUSE OF THIS STUPID WEBSITE COMMENTS....SO CALL VECTOR MARKETING SET UP OR RESCHEDULE YOUR INTERVIEW, AND GIVE THE HARDWORKING MANAGERS A CHANCE TO GIVE YOU THIS GREAT OPPORTUNITY.......

Rachie, good luck changing people's minds about Vector with your all caps sloppy excuse of a post. If i'm correct the people that get past the interview and training become sales reps, not RECEPTIONISTS, so your input is pretty useless.

Anyways, I went through the interview thing and was given a schedule of training dates. I showed up for the first one and there was a sign on the door saying 'training cancelled' and it gave me a number. I called the number and a nice guy answered, apologized, and said he would call me back later that day for the new training schedule. Well, no call back. So I wait a couple days and call the number back. Again, the nice man apologizes and says he's in his car and he will call me once he reaches his office. No call back. So i'd given up at this point until a few days ago (about 3-4 weeks after my interview and the no callbacks) a receptionist calls me to schedule the training. Hrm...seems rather unprofessional. Well, I planned on going to the training until I googled Vector and read about all the crazy stuff people are complaining about (pyramid scheme/racism/etc). I don't think Vector is a scam but I think I will pass on the training process. Besides, i'm not so sure I could find lots of people that will let me in their homes to sell expensive knives (at least not enough to exceed or equal the $15 basepay). But, i'll never find out due to the rockiness at the beginning of the hiring process coupled with the thousands of complaints i've read about online. I also had a friend that worked for Vector that quit shortly after because she had trouble finding contacts after her initial demos. Also, not getting paid anything for training is a bit ridiculous. I wouldn't recommend Vector to most people.

the reason people don't get paid for training is because so many people drop out. and going through training isn't the same thing as working. i know for restaurants they pay you for traning, but that's a whole different business--you actually have to do things. in vector training, you sit there, pay attention, and take notes. not that hard. it's messed up that the manager didn't call you back!..no one in my office would ever do that!! i'm sure it wasn't done on purpose though. the thing is, each office has hundreds and hundreds of reps and sometimes it's very difficult to keep up with them. the manager should have been more organized and responsible though. but just so you know, most managers blow reps off. if you don't think vector isn't for you, that's cool..because it's not for a lot of people. but the thing is, you don't really have to right to tell people not to work there. you never went through training, never gave it a chance..you might have actually liked it, but who knows!! also, the reason why there are millions of terrible comments about vector is because those are the people that expected to show up to vector and get paid without putting any work in. vector doesn't work that way. you get what you put in. most kids didn't like that and were extremely bitter.. they weren't qualified to bash vector and tell people not to work there. for me, vector was literally one of the best decisions i have ever made in my life. im a management candidate, got 17 college credits, got into the presidental club with the company, had the CEO write me a personalized letter of recomendation, have an AMAZING resume, made thousands and thousands of dollars, made life long friendships, and learned extremely important life skills. also, if a top rep decides to get an internship and another job elsewhere, you can write down the manager as a reference.. the manager ( or at least mine) gives you the BEST reccomendation ever...they even sometimes get you a raise at your new job!!

You Guys are Rediculous, if your not interested...whatever, why cry and whine like little babies about the company....leave it alone, GROW UP and get on with your sad pathetic little lives....

I LOVE CUTCO,
YOUR WE ARE THE ONLY LOGICAL PEOPLE IN THIS SAD LITTLE WORLD...LOL

Rachie in Madison, Wisconsin said: You Guys are Rediculous, if your not interested...whatever, why cry and whine like little babies about the company....leave it alone, GROW UP and get on with your sad pathetic little lives....

You forgot to mention that we are all going to work at McDonald's cleaning toilets for all of our lives.

Not ME
lol

EACH THEIR OWN.....WTEVER

Rachie in Madison, Wisconsin said: You Guys are Rediculous, if your not interested...whatever, why cry and whine like little babies about the company....leave it alone, GROW UP and get on with your sad pathetic little lives....

I and many others did not whine or complain at all. We simply shared the experiences we had with Vector. And you are saying to 'GROW UP' yet you are the one insulting people you don't know on an online forum because we have a disagreement. Not to mention your pre-teen spelling/grammar/caps lock tendencies.

Rachie in Madison, Wisconsin said: I LOVE CUTCO,
YOUR WE ARE THE ONLY LOGICAL PEOPLE IN THIS SAD LITTLE WORLD...LOL

Rachie you need to stop this. You are embarrassing yourself and Vector. Don't ever use the word logical ever again please for the sake of logic.

Excuse Me, But I AM Not Pre-Teen, and for your information, i spelled every single word right. Now you have no Right to insult me, This whole site is Opinion, I have mine and you have yours so whatever....your rediculous!

Rachie in Madison, Wisconsin said: Excuse Me, But I AM Not Pre-Teen, and for your information, i spelled every single word right. Now you have no Right to insult me, This whole site is Opinion, I have mine and you have yours so whatever....your rediculous!

honey, you've spelled 'ridiculous' wrong twice now. get a better spell-check, babe!

This is nice because this amazing scam took me much by surprise as anyone. These people picked me up on 42'nd and timesquare in NYC right infront of the Ernst&Young Building. They told me to meet them at a caffe' for an interview. Not only is it already suspiciouse that it was at a caffe' but they also told me much like the first post that if this guy that still had peachfuzz on his face didnt like me by my looks then i wouldnt get this oppertunity. ALSO what was extreamly amazing is there were people that looked like inner city trash picked up off the street being asked for $450 dollers to start. They were setting up an organization that created a new system of phone service with there units much like "Vonige". But i was very niave at the time. Thank god i always carry around a fake credit card in these situations. I hope they got caught trying to use it. And i also loved the distractions of pleasent conversation while they were asking me to sign things. I got out of there before it was too late and didnt lose anymoney. I would love to see there representatives try to explain this.

Shan in Nashville, Tennessee said: This company calls you for an interview, and some people as soon as they walked back would walk right back out. Well come to find out he says that if he didn't like the way you looked when he first met you then he won't hire you. Then we find out that we are trying to sell knives and things. But of course he didn't mention the fact that we have to invest over a 100 bucks to start the job. We have to purchase the knives and then use that as our sells guide to show customers. This was the biggest scam I had ran across yet. Any business you have to invest money in to get hired, you should know it just ain't right!!!How do they expect you to purchase something like that and you are trying to get a job. Oh you don't want to talk about the door to door sales. Yeah you need to find your own people to sale to by the way. If this sounds like the job for you, then goodluck to you!!

I am a college student at Iowa State, and I will tell you from my experience, it was nothing like what you are describing. I went to an interview, dressed like I was coming to an interview (shirt, tie). Had a seat and filled out an application for a Sales/Customer Service job. Through the interview process I was impressed with the product and with the forever gaurantee I thought alot of people would like that. They did tell me that I should first practice explaing the product to people that I know first, and then go show anyone else that they thing would like to see it (just like a insurance agent/realtor/investmentor/finacial advisor/interior designer would. So i definitley saw how this experiece could make me very good at finding sales leads ( which must be important... super bowl commercial "100 sales leads" ect. plus many other examples) then they let me know I would need to put a refundable deposit down for a sample kit, that i would use to show/sell the product (which I returned for a refund. like a hammer, stethescope,like any job)

The people that respond in defense of Vector sound like they're in a cult.
Apparently the re-animated corpse of Jim Jones controls Vector.
And alot of this Vector rhetoric sounds a tad bit like an informercial testimonial, insincere and rehearsed. No thanks.

Shan in Nashville, Tennessee said: This company calls you for an interview, and some people as soon as they walked back would walk right back out. Well come to find out he says that if he didn't like the way you looked when he first met you then he won't hire you. Then we find out that we are trying to sell knives and things. But of course he didn't mention the fact that we have to invest over a 100 bucks to start the job. We have to purchase the knives and then use that as our sells guide to show customers. This was the biggest scam I had ran across yet. Any business you have to invest money in to get hired, you should know it just ain't right!!!How do they expect you to purchase something like that and you are trying to get a job. Oh you don't want to talk about the door to door sales. Yeah you need to find your own people to sale to by the way. If this sounds like the job for you, then goodluck to you!!

Me and my wife have been victoms of this Cutco scam with vector Marketing, they have sold us demo knives and we returned the knives back. NOW we are being reported to a Credit Reporting so called Specialists that works for Cutco. they are scums of the earth to rob us like this, Please do not Work for this Scam Marketing company, MY wife and I have spent 2 to 3 days in the fake orintation and went out to sell the knives, the knives would not cut as shown in orintation, and the sciccors would not cut a chicken bone or penny, this was a joke!!!! So my wife and I returned the knives 1 year ago and now we get contacted that we still have the knives???? If you have any advice please contact us asap! thank you for your time

Me and my wife have been victoms of this Cutco scam with vector Marketing, they have sold us demo knives and we returned the knives back. NOW we are being reported to a Credit Reporting so called Specialists that works for Cutco. they are scums of the earth to rob us like this, Please do not Work for this Scam Marketing company, MY wife and I have spent 2 to 3 days in the fake orintation and went out to sell the knives, the knives would not cut as shown in orintation, and the sciccors would not cut a chicken bone or penny, this was a joke!!!! So my wife and I returned the knives 1 year ago and now we get contacted that we still have the knives???? If you have any advice please contact us asap! thank you for your time

I think all this is really funny actually because i am a high school senior that made over 3 thousand dollars last summer working with the company. In reality i only worked for 3 weeks because i am lazy and was out of town for most of the summer but i still got a ton of the free stuff that i was able to sell for even more bringing my total profit after tax to around $3500. Not bad for a first month considering that it was my first job and all. So for all of you that got "scammed" i am sorry but it wasnt the company you really just shouldnt be in sales. Have fun flipping burgers.

Zap in Tempe, Arizona said: Me and my wife have been victoms of this Cutco scam with vector Marketing, they have sold us demo knives and we returned the knives back. NOW we are being reported to a Credit Reporting so called Specialists that works for Cutco. they are scums of the earth to rob us like this, Please do not Work for this Scam Marketing company, MY wife and I have spent 2 to 3 days in the fake orintation and went out to sell the knives, the knives would not cut as shown in orintation, and the sciccors would not cut a chicken bone or penny, this was a joke!!!! So my wife and I returned the knives 1 year ago and now we get contacted that we still have the knives???? If you have any advice please contact us asap! thank you for your time

yeah when cutting the penny you have to push down on one side so that the penny will not slip, then it cuts really well i know i have cut several of them and can now make a texas longhorn, a rocket ship, and a corkscrew so i am sorry you had trouble but it seems your problem was user error.

Okay, Here's my comments

First off, i would like to urge people to stop the "grammar war". Pointing out minor flaws with one's grammer is a cheap shot, and proves nothing. In fact, studies show that poor spelling skills do not mean a low intelligence, in fact, if anything, they show the opposite.

From what i've seen and heard, i've come up with a few common themes about vector.

The Good: These are simple facts about the good points of vector that require no further explanation

1. They do not break the law
2. Their knives are of high quality and there is really something to their patented designs.
3. It is possible to succeed there
4. They're better than they use to be
5. They do have tha forever guarantee.

The Shady: these are the reasons why many people here may choose not to go through with vector.

1. The initial deposit on the demo set
2. They don't have pre-existing references to give you
3. The interview is a sales pitch
4. The offices are normally shabby and don't look permanant
5. In the interview and training, they discourage any pessimism. Basically they don't seem to want you to question them.
6. The knives are more expensive then their worth.
7. The training sessions are still a sales pitch, and can easily be condensed to be shorter than the first day without losing any of their practical value.
8. They are not very well regulated at the national level. I hear of so many anomolies that are atributed to bad managers, that they're no longer just flukes or coincidences. It's blatently obvious that Vector does an inadequate job at managing their local managers.
9. Your parents wont like it when you tell them. The few people that might buy from you will tell you not to go into it, when you decide to do research you learn that it is