Vector marketing-- Big scam

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I just had an interview with Vector, and like most of the people posting here I went through the same routine of presentations and colourful rhetoric about how Vector values
honesty and integrity above all. There were four other people at the interview and we were told that only one of us would get the job. Apparently I was the only one hired but it is obvious to me now that we were all hired, the "only one of you will get this job" speech was just a clever attempt to make
"the one" feel special.

After researching Vector further, I am disgusted that they would preach about honesty and integrity and yet be blatantly dishonest and manipulative to potential employees, ESPECIALLY because the people they hire are young students who do not have the experience to know better.

I would not say Vector is a scam, as certain people can do very well with them. That being said, they ARE NOT what they appear to be on the surface, they are dishonest and manipulative despite claiming to value honesty and integrity.

>>>>For anyone else thinking about a job with Vector I would strongly suggest conducting further research into their recruiting schemes and also their troublesome history (there is alot of information of this, you only have to do some light searching on Google)<<<<<

As for me, I will not be going to the unpaid training or taking this job any further. The potential to actually LOSE money while working for them as well as Vector's failure to practice what they preach tells me this is not a company that is not worth my time.

Mick in Lindsay, Ontario said: this is not a company that is worth my time.

Edit for clarity ;)

Wow guys~! big misunderstanding!!!

you guys think that because you have to pay for the SAMPLE SET to do the demo, the company's scam? then you're IGNORANT!!!!

this is the SALES BUZ, you know any company that'll just lend out hundred-dollars worth of samples for free? Reps would've run-off with the products if that happened!!!!!!

for those of you who've never been in the sales buz, PAYING deposit for the sample set is STANDARD PRACTICE!!!!! I know this because my mom and friends have gone into similar buz.

AND you know ppl who complain about this type of work?? it's because they failed!!!! or that they are trying to convince themselves that it's the product/company's fault that they can't succeed!!

DON'T LET ANYONE SWAY UR BELIEF, WHETHER OR NOT U'LL SUCCEED DEPENDS ON UR PERSEVERANCE!!!! U HAVE TO TRUST THE PRODUCT, OR ELSE, WHY SHOULD UR CUSTOMERS LISTEN TO U ?!!!!!

AND IF U HAD DOUBTS ABOUT THE COMPANY, JUST GO AHEAD AND BE STUCK WORKING AT FASTFOOD RESTAURANTS WHERE UR JUST DOING PHYSICAL LABOUR!!!!!!

HELP. I just got hired and I wonder if it is worth it. I'm a senior in high school about to graduate and I have another job. I want to supplement my money. Can someone explain how Vector would be a good experience for me

They called the next morning after i applied. i was kinda suspicous bc they called me back so quickly. and then they told me they are really busy but were able to squeeze me in for an interview. they told me not to wear jeans and that ill be paid 14 dollars base pay. sounded strange.
im still deciding if im going to go, or if i am just going to ditch the appointment.>>??

I am hiring for a new company!!! 10 spots open!! Only cost $100 to start!! Great Money!! $16.50 per visit!! OH WAIT!! We dont even pay you for 3 days of training!!! WHAT MORE COULD U ASK FOR!!

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Be better of selling kirby vaccum cleaners atleast that is a quality known product!

I recieved a letter from Vector last year and this year as well. I'm a freshman in college and I thought 'Hey! maybe I should just go check it out and see what it's like.' So I applied online at school and when I got home I had a message from them on my answering machine...already!? I was like 'Wow...that was fast.' So I set up an interview and when I went it was a huge group of college students there. We were taken into the managers office 2 at a time, which I felt was very weird. Then he gave us this huge presentation on the company and product. I stayed for the whole presentation because he made it sound so good. I was thinking in my head 'god this will be so easy and I really need the money.' Then after the presentation we had to fill out a few questions and we didn't even have time to fill out the important questions when he called me and this other girl back first. He said we "stood out" in the group. But he didn't spend that much time with us. Maybe 5 minutes, if that. You know I was so excited that I had gotten the job and I called my mom. Well she went online just to look up the company and found out that it's a scam. This morning I've done my research as well and I won't be going to the training. So please, if you get a letter in the mail from Vector don't even open it. If it's too good to be true...than it's too good to be true.

i really do love the way this shan guy alwyas has to throw my name in a lot of his lil comments he make. i also love the way he tries to disrespect me by tossing out personal insults. another thing i love is how i was the bigger person and not stoop to his level and not say anything negative about him or anyone else that make comments on this web site. i dont have time to argue with peoples kids or get upset over some random person that i dont know insulting me. he claim i need a life but yet he been making comments on this site for a few months. so shan, keep throwing my name in every single comment you make. in fact, go ahead and insult me as much as you want because i think its cute. and its nice to know that im on someone mind :-) oh yea i also love the fact that other people can come on here and talk about vector, wether they like us or not, and still be civilized and mature about it. so i would like to thank all the mature and civilized people that can manange to have a discussion with out insulting anyone else.

After reading all that i can read...i can only said i will quit this job not because of scem but because it is not the right job for me....i am not good at sale and don't know much of people, even if i continue doing this job i would not make much money...by the way i started working last week....have not make any sale...even my mon said it is not a right job for me...people who can make money out of this company is people who can sale...as for how they sale.... this is an other question...i know most people who start the job only sell to family and friends...and later it become more and more hard to sale...

Taymar, i thank you for defending yourself and turning the other cheek as it were. i think this shan guy needs to get a job if he has so much free time to be fighting with people he can't even see. if he were to get a job then maybe he wouldn't have to fight with and insult people on a discussion sight.
and if he is insulting you then he is thinking abot you and if he is thinking about you you must have left some kind of impression on him. he must be jealous;)

Wow. I heard about this "job" from a friend, and as soon as I looked in the newspaper I saw three different ads for the same job. That is when i first thought something must be going on. Then I call them to see if i could get any information about the job. The receptionist/recruiter who answered the phone told me that she could not answer any questions do to the volume of calls she was recieving but that any of my questions could be answered at the interview.... hmm second flag.
she asks me to come in that very day for the interview because apparantly positions are going fast (third flag)... my sisters recital was that night so i told her no and her reply was "well im sure your sister will have more recitals, its important you don't miss this opportunity" (fourth flag)... i then told her i was no longer interested in the job..

what the hell kind of business is this???

This is a scam ladies and gentlemen.

Please look up vector on wikipedia and follow the links to see a very non biast educated report on the dangers of this company and the way it does business.

This is not a good or valued company at all. It's practices are deceiving destructive and illegal. Vector has had multiple lawsuits of misconduct and deception from the state of Oregon as well as being a company that does not pay it's employees for training.

Work for this company at your own risk. I have been to the interview and seen how very charismatic and good they make it look. Real companies with real income would pay to train you and would NOT make you pay for the product up front in case of theft they would simply take it from your paycheck!

Just two cents from an educated and experienced person.

i might come back to this but anyway you really ignorant people.. no lie im 19 since april and started working in jan. i am up to my 30% promotion and have been key staff since my second week and now soon to be a manager and thats only because of my sales and way of talking.. to be frank im lazy as hell but very skilled in talking and convincing which is what sales is all about which is what you people don't have because if you did you wouldn't think all who defend are liars rather you would try and bash our comments instead right? you can return your kit for money at any time you want and you have discounts on your own items if you wanted.. you are not scammed out of money at all through the whole time you work.. but i will admit that before the interview process it is just a bunch of crap cause i know the ins and outs of the whole process.. fine you are enticed to do the job but if it is a great job if you can handle it.. i make more than any of my friends who work regular jobs.. first two weeks 45 demos and 5260 in sales which is about 3-400 in profits.. also i have two personal recruits who both started like some of you but then went on field training demos with me and both sold a lot and of course made me a bit richer since i recruited them.. dont think of me as a soon to be manager who is just getting money for free cause im not.... YET... i make more than the average my age and im still in debt.. u probably have a harder life than any of you who have all day to talk about this.. im on right now cause my brother doesnt trust the job and sent me these sites cause he's a top business guy..im in debt with college and life so if this was a scam id be gone.. if i wasnt able to make this much id be out the door of vector

This will settle everything. Check out the consumer report. It is a scam. They have been sued several times for misleading thousands of young adults. So for everyone saying it's a great company, why did I just view the case file for the law suit brought against Vector by the federal trade commission? You all have tried to schedule me for an interview, but I was smart enough to notice how unprofessional the young lady was that called me. With all of the big talk that you all do in your ads, one would like to think that you would at least be smart enough to have someone with some sort of professional background making these appointments. You would also think that you would be smart enough to not continue to repost defensive messages for Vector by signing under different names. If you aren't signing under different names, then you are obviously all in the same location, hince the same ip address on every single posting from the Vector rep. If you view the packet that you all give out during training, you will notice several spelling errors as well as grammatical errors. You will also notice sales approaches that any self-respecting business would run from. Also, why do you all target the youth? Why do your so called managers introduce themselves as managers, but upon researching the company thru the BBB, the title is principal instead of manager. Who would really call someone and say, "It doesn't matter if you don't buy the product. I get paid anyway for the appointment?" How unprofessional and desperate does that sound? I wouldn't buy a thing from someone who called me with that sales pitch, because how can I trust the product to be any good if the person is only in it for the money? Before you defend the company, perhaps you all are the people who need to do a bit more research on the company. If you research fraud alerts, you will notice that Vector is amongst one of the companies listed. That can't be a lie, because that's a list created by representatives of our

government, who has to have a grounds to base such claims upon. Unless of course you all would like to scream conspiracy. I also don't understand how Vector workers seem to think that they are so high above others. You sell knives. I mean seriously, you sell knives. To be perfectly honest, in this day and age, I don't know very many people who allow strangers into their homes with these magnificent knives that you claim to sell. During your training sessions you say that you sell the #1 utensil sets in America, yet you don't advertise that anywhere. You call yourselves a marketing firm, but you are not that, especially if you also operate under the name of Cutco. Marketing firms have clients and do not operate under their clients name. After checking with the BBB, I found that you all not only operate under the names of Vector and Cutco, but also under the name of a company whom they haven't been affiliated with in over 20 years. Yes, their page vaguely tells what you may do. But it doesn't state that you are also required to pay for your own travel expenses to required conferences and such. It doesn't say that those scholarships they promise are usually donations to the student's university in the student's name, and that's rare, as you all rarely disburse scholarships. You all also lied to my friend, as I now see you've done to a lot of others, by telling her that you don't do interviews on Thursdays or Fridays, no exceptions. However, when she said she wouldn't be able to make it, guess what, yup, and exception was made. She too was hired right on the spot. I've never known any real business to hire on the spot with no background check or calling of references. It doesn't all add up. You've misrepresented yourselves by stating that you are a marketing firm who markets other things such as sporting goods. Base pay is what you make no matter what, not what you make if you follow a strick guideline that is not initially made clear. My roommate knew nothing about

deposit for the utensils, which should be made clear in your ads; before people waste their time. Why not be honest and post this in either ads or say this during the interviews or first day of training? Why not explain to them that they will be allowed to sell to their family and friends just as long as they meet certain criteria such as: 25 or older, married, with children, and permanent employment. What the hell does that mean? Does that mean the person can never leave that job? I don't know very many who have permanent employment. I know people who have job security, but anyone can get fired or lose their job, so permanent? Initially, my roommate was under the impression that she would be marketing sports equipment and a variety of other items. Instead, she found out she's going to be trying to convince strangers to allow her in their home with these supposed lifelong knives. Speaking of which, why have so many claims been filed stating that these lifelong knives have rusted and worn? I don't understand. Also, you all claim that roughly 98% of the population owns the knives, yet I've never heard of them. As a matter of fact, not one of the individuals I asked knew of Cutco. There is A LOT of deception going on, which is exactly why you target younger age groups, but so sad for you, more and more people are starting to catch on. You tell us to do the research, but think about it, where the hell do you think we got the information? If not by first hand, research. You can continue to defend Vector, but what it all boils down to is that anyone who has been affiliated with Vector in any kind of way knows the truth. Oh, and to the receptionist, how would you know what's true and what's not? Were you in the training sessions? Oh, and one other question: I've seen several people from Vector on campus trying to recruit, and ironically I've seen those same people posing as trainees during training sessions as have some of my friends. Rather odd don't you think?

sincerely advise you Pro-Vector people to chalk it up as a loss and quit defending the company. The more you all get on here and hurl insults, the more you prove the nay sayers right. As I said before, you all are VERY unprofessional, and the fact that you seek out the sites that are opposed to you only further proves that. Have you ever seen any well respected companies do that? Nope, because their reputation and products speak for themselves. The worst part about this is that while I have seen several upset customers, I've come across a hell of a lot more disgruntled employees/ex-employess. People quit sales jobs every day. People quit all kinds of jobs every day. They don't then go out and create sites to warn others about the company. Nor do they file multiple lawsuits and win or settle out of court. If I was a trustworthy company and I continued to have suits filed against me that I claimed to be false, at some point and time I would stop settling out of court and take it to the judge in order to clear my name, but it's quite obvious that you all are hiding something. When one person says something, it's easier to ignore. When a few more people give the same EXACT accounts, from the interview process to the training to the calling, you have to turn your head a bit. When thousands of people make the same claims over several years and you all settle every case, you must turn around and run the hell away from Vector Marketing. Oh, and for the record, I'm a 2nd year medical student. So in a few years look me up. Maybe you can be my pool staff or something to that effect once Vector is finally shutdown.

s in Lubbock, Texas said: sincerely advise you Pro-Vector people to chalk it up as a loss and quit defending the company. The more you all get on here and hurl insults, the more you prove the nay sayers right. As I said before, you all are VERY unprofessional, and the fact that you seek out the sites that are opposed to you only further proves that. Have you ever seen any well respected companies do that? Nope, because their reputation and products speak for themselves. The worst part about this is that while I have seen several upset customers, I've come across a hell of a lot more disgruntled employees/ex-employess. People quit sales jobs every day. People quit all kinds of jobs every day. They don't then go out and create sites to warn others about the company. Nor do they file multiple lawsuits and win or settle out of court. If I was a trustworthy company and I continued to have suits filed against me that I claimed to be false, at some point and time I would stop settling out of court and take it to the judge in order to clear my name, but it's quite obvious that you all are hiding something. When one person says something, it's easier to ignore. When a few more people give the same EXACT accounts, from the interview process to the training to the calling, you have to turn your head a bit. When thousands of people make the same claims over several years and you all settle every case, you must turn around and run the hell away from Vector Marketing. Oh, and for the record, I'm a 2nd year medical student. So in a few years look me up. Maybe you can be my pool staff or something to that effect once Vector is finally shutdown.

Oh my goodness. I must say you came on here and did what was needed for this site. I applaud you in every single bit cause I was loving your response in every way the entire time. I am so glad someone could come on here and really inform others of how vector marketing is and how to stay away from them.Thanks.. Great post

anonymous in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma said: When I was in college, I worked for Vector Marketing for a summer and found out that I loved sales. My manager never made me invest in it, and I sold $10k worth of that stuff in 3 months. I knew It was just a part-time thing, but I think that it would be safe to say that sales is not for everyone. Today I work for a Fortune 100 firm and earn a substantial living, and its because of my attitude and desire to succeed. I won't stop until I'm at the top. I have paid my dues to get here. I'm sorry to hear that the Vector Marketing may not be the best company to work for. I think that there are bad apples everywhere. Doesn't matter what company. My experience is different than anyone else's, but in my opinion, Vector Marketing can be a good place to start out as your first company to work for, but if you are older, like in your 30s or more, go back to school.

Yeah, but what company leaves you 10 voice mails saying they want to interview you.

Rita in Plano, Texas said: Actually it isn't a scam. It is a direct sales position; yes, you do have to invest in the sales kit to do demostrations. I worked one summer as an independent rep and learned a great deal about how to do cold calling. It certainly isn't an opportunity for everyone. The experience really helped me in learning how to get over being afraid of making sales calls. No, I didn't make a lot of money, but no one was scammed, and it is really a decent product if you can afford the knives (seriously these bad boys do last forever.)

I think the biggest problem is that they need to be clearer in the presentation of the position. When I met to discuss working as an indy rep, the manager I dealt with was very clear.

It's not a scam, but if you are looking for an hourly job, then no, this isn't for you. Because they only way you make any money is if you actually make sales. But I did meet quite a few people, and most of them were in their early 20s that did quite well.

I want to ask one of you successful ppl if its not too much to ask, so how did you go about making sales? was it really door 2 door, cause I thought you could only get appointments through recommendations. Also how much of your time did this take? and about how much money did you make?

Do you consider this a good experience in terms of you learned something or did this make you a better person?

Brandon in Fredericksburg, Ontario said: I applied for a job at Vector Marketing and they called me for an interview. I showed up to the appointment (which was today) and I was there with about 6 other people. They went on this huge thing about how good their knives were and I was convinced that they are good. So I came home today and was pretty happy that I had gotten the job. Then I was sitting there and I told my girlfriend that we have to find the people ourselves to sell to. She told me she thought it was a scam so I looked it up. Good thing I did. Apparently vector rips off thousands of students every year like this. How the hell can they get away with such crap? I should have known though because their signs were duct taped to the wall, and the room was only like 10' by 10'.

What really pisses me off is how do they get away with such filth??? There were other people in the interview too that I'm not sure if they also got the job or if it was just me. But something needs to be done about this bull. I'm not sure if I should tell someone or if I should just let it go or what. But what a load of s*** this is.

After reading several of these comments, I think the best thing may be for peeps to go to the interview knowing that its a scam so that people who like me have never seen a scam before can get a feel for it.

Now that you mention it I did wonder why their place was so small and there were boxes all over the "lobby" (6'x6' room), and why they would put 101.3 KDWB on the radio (Minneapolis/St Paul pop music station). There signs did have tape, hmm.

I have to give the guy credit though because he really pulled off the wholw serious business environment, i thought i was about to be part of a large nation wide firm/growing company, lol. It was my first time. I f some of us go to college we can secretly and discreetly put signs next to the Vector posters descbing it as a scam, and telling ppl to google it first.

Amanda (receptionist) in Cincinnati, Ohio said: I'm a receptionist for vector and all of you who think this is a scam your idiot's. This is one of the best companies I have ever worked for. your given the opportunity to make so much money. I really don't know any person that wouldn't want the opportunity to make a whole bunch of money. I guess the losers who come in one day and expect to have a big paycheck at the end of the week but don't make the effort to do the work would call this thing a scam. Its a scam to them because their lazy and don't want to work for their money, they want i handed to them!!!!

In response to your comment, being a receptionist I am assuming that you do not go through the hassle of commission based pay, so your basically in a diffrent realm, (I wish I could apply to be in your job)

Addressing another part of your comment, even though it seems that lots of money can be made in this job, given the time that has to be invested and the unstable pay check, don't you think that this job is actually less than ideal for college students (whom Vector actively targets) who need to have a secure income source and need to set goals in terms of sums of money they MUST make to keep up with their bills. This job is also heavily dependent on lots of variables prime among which is how many connections your family has. Success is more dependent on that than on the salesman skills of the individual.

Candidate in Cary in Raleigh, North Carolina said: Its not a scam. Their website is pretty clear about what they do - sell cutlery. It sounds as though a lot of people are answering jobs postings and going in for interviews without doing any research on the company beforehand!
www.vectormarketing.com/

This is a description of the company from Hoovers:
"Vector Marketing Corporation (VMC), the direct sales division for Cutco Cutlery, makes the cut in cutlery sales. The company manages the marketing and direct sales of sister company Cutco, the nation's largest kitchen cutlery manufacturer. VMC and its Canadian counterpart,
Vector Marketing Canada, enlist legions of college students who make home visits to demonstrate and sell Cutco products, which include butcher knives, paring knives, carving forks, and other household cutlery. The company was acquired by Alcas Corporation-- the manufacturer of Cutco products -- in 1985."

Seems pretty straightforward to me - they are direct sellers. So I guess the question for those of you who believe this is a scam - what exactly did you think the job would be?

I thought it would be around what the poster at my University said it would be, customer service. I guess it vaguely fits but come on why not be out right about it and say "WANTED: sales reps for cutlery products"?

Ed said: Hi! I got the job! Yay! Does anyone want to buy some knives? They can cut through rope (very clean cut). They can also cut through a penny.
Can people just give me a lot of phone numbers and stuff so I can do the "Practice Appointment" a lot of times?

LOL you made my day homie.

Matt in Fort Worth, Texas said: you are absolutely right i made 17k as an assitant just off of the office i made another 10k from my sales so it's deffinitely worth while as long as you put your heart in it. although im not with cutco anymore i have found a great job with better pay because of my experience with vector marketing. im 21 and able to support my wife and son very comfortably.

I'd like to ask you succesful guys some qs if u don't mind.

were you in college @ the time?
was the money enough for you to keep up with bills?
don't you think that your succes has a lot to do that you got to tap the right ppl at the right time, before anyone else layed claim to them. Therefore don't you believe its kind of first come first served in terms of getting customers?

NOT SCAM!!! in Port Mann, British Columbia said: Wow guys~! big misunderstanding!!!

you guys think that because you have to pay for the SAMPLE SET to do the demo, the company's scam? then you're IGNORANT!!!!

this is the SALES BUZ, you know any company that'll just lend out hundred-dollars worth of samples for free? Reps would've run-off with the products if that happened!!!!!!

for those of you who've never been in the sales buz, PAYING deposit for the sample set is STANDARD PRACTICE!!!!! I know this because my mom and friends have gone into similar buz.

AND you know ppl who complain about this type of work?? it's because they failed!!!! or that they are trying to convince themselves that it's the product/company's fault that they can't succeed!!

DON'T LET ANYONE SWAY UR BELIEF, WHETHER OR NOT U'LL SUCCEED DEPENDS ON UR PERSEVERANCE!!!! U HAVE TO TRUST THE PRODUCT, OR ELSE, WHY SHOULD UR CUSTOMERS LISTEN TO U ?!!!!!

AND IF U HAD DOUBTS ABOUT THE COMPANY, JUST GO AHEAD AND BE STUCK WORKING AT FASTFOOD RESTAURANTS WHERE UR JUST DOING PHYSICAL LABOUR!!!!!!

Oh I KNOW your IGNORANT *** is not hatin on physical labor, which is probably what you need to get your s**t straight.

I've read the succes stories on here and I wouldn't consider them liars however I seriously have doubts about the value of a marketing job for a college student, who is usually deep in the throughs of college debt and bills. It may look good on your resume, but so does a nice/regular internship at a law office, or an accounting firm, or whatever other internship you may find. This job is for peoplle with lots of time patience and connections (With bling!!!).

Yes companies do supply individuals with the necessary product to sell. Do you see a department store like macys telling the employees to purchase jackets and then resell them? You definitely must be from vector marketting, probably gave up college and started volunteering for them. So you must not have learn the nature of businesses at all. Let me ask you one question when you sell the knives, do you get full value or company takes partial? Dont work like a dog. For everyone else out there, all scam businesses have ways of diverting factual information about their companies. All the comments posted about how Vector marketting is a ""opporunity"" and not a scam have came from actual employees attempting to scam you. Check out the ip addresses because it coems from similar computers.

To Amanda the receptionist:
Why on earth are you a receptionist for this wonderful company, when you said yourself, there's so much money to be made actually selling the product? You chose to be a secretary rather than sell it?
That sure makes sense.
Also, your grammar and spelling are horrendous, for a receptionist, that's pretty embarassing!

Jose, as a college student myself, I won't say that it's the best way to make money to pay for bills. When you first start out, you won't be making a whole lot of money, but once you make it to the 30% and 45% commission, then yes you can make money to pay for the bills. Selling CUTCO was one of my part time jobs, I had 2. I would work at Home Depot during the week and sell CUTCO on the weekends. The highest you can go is 50% commission. You have to really work hard at it to get to that level. Right now I am only at the 25% commission level and that's due to the fact that all my family and relatives are back in Houston and I was working out of the Autin office. But now that it's summer time, i've moved back to Houston and will be able to have a wider customer base.

Plus again people, not all of it is door-2-door sales. Some reps. like myself, go to these Home & Garden shows or RV & Boat shows. At these shows, that's where you can really increase your sales numbers, and make a lot of money. Sometimes you hear these stories of people making 15K in the summer or something like that, yes that is very true when you reach the 50% commission level. But again, they've worked hard to get to that level.

I can say this though, it does give you some good experience in the business world. It gives you more confidence when presenting something. Hell I used to hate giving presentations for my speech classes, but since I started with Vector, I have more confidence in myself to go up in front of the class and not be so scared.

"Plus again people, not all of it is door-2-door sales. Some reps. like myself, go to these Home & Garden shows or RV & Boat shows. At these shows, that's where you can really increase your sales numbers, and make a lot of money."

That's actually funny, because at the interview that I went to today, the manger lectured that you're not allowed to do that, and that every sale has to be one-on-one.

I was on a couple other message boards earlier that were talking about this very thing, and on all of the boards, all of the people that were defending Vector were always very insultive and rude.

They also always came from the same IP address.

I was supposed to go interview with Vector here in Queens NY yesterday and after reading this board, plus www.ripoffreport.com, plus a few other sites... I decided against it.
I did call up the office however and ask them a few questions: "is this job 17 dollars per hour or per APPOINTMENT? Do I need to purchase a set of knives and then try to sell them?" etc... since prior to that phone call, they hadn't told me ANYTHING really, just "17 dollars an hour, please show up looking PROFESSIONAL"
So I thought hmmm this sounds like a nice, serious job, but something told me to research it a bit more...
I remember the distinctive pause I heard on the other end of the phone when I asked the receptionist to please spell the name of the company, as it sounded like she said "victor," and also cutco since I'd never heard of either.
I said I wanted to google the company and she got silent... I wasn't even THINKING ANYTHING negative either, I just knew I wanted to research the company prior to going on the interview- isn't that what a smart job seeker DOES?
I am so glad I did.

Kathy said: I was supposed to go interview with Vector here in Queens NY yesterday and after reading this board, plus www.ripoffreport.com , plus a few other sites... I decided against it.
I did call up the office however and ask them a few questions: "is this job 17 dollars per hour or per APPOINTMENT? Do I need to purchase a set of knives and then try to sell them?" etc... since prior to that phone call, they hadn't told me ANYTHING really, just "17 dollars an hour, please show up looking PROFESSIONAL"
So I thought hmmm this sounds like a nice, serious job, but something told me to research it a bit more...
I remember the distinctive pause I heard on the other end of the phone when I asked the receptionist to please spell the name of the company, as it sounded like she said "victor," and also cutco since I'd never heard of either.
I said I wanted to google the company and she got silent... I wasn't even THINKING ANYTHING negative either, I just knew I wanted to research the company prior to going on the interview- isn't that what a smart job seeker DOES?
I am so glad I did.

Also I'd like to add that I found out about this job from my college in Queens. There was a posting up in the career section at the school "17 dollars an hour, customer service position" so it sounded decent. I didn't know the company name or anything yet, until I called up. And they didn't know ANYTHING about me either yet they were so psyched to have me immediately come in for an interview, which I did find a bit strange.

im currently in college and I got a letter in the mail yesterday from vector saying they had positions opene and needed college studnts to interview asap and base pay was 16.25. I had to see what this was all about, the reseptionist was nice sounded very young and told me to come for an interview in 2 hours and used words like awsome,like and crazy alot when we spoke. when i pulled in2 the building there was no vector sign on the building (hmm) when i walked in i saw a little vector sign and a small office with a bunch of chairs 12 others like me, a chick (vector rep whoe's boobs were falling out of her shirt :)) sitting in a desk infront of us that talked about how she was constantly rejected after aplying 2 real world and the movie dum and dummer playing (what kind of place is this its not profesional at all). the manager took us in by 2's and 1 person from each group left when it was my turn (I was the odd 1 who went alone the guy said it was like a competition 4 the job making me want it more) after he talked about the product he talked 2 us 1 by 1 2 say who got the job, he said i got it , i was pretty happy and told my dad who said u gotta buy the stuff and they don't tell u ho u gotta sell 2? this opened my eyes, I have my interview 2 marow im still debating, my neighbors are all old and always complain 2 animal control about my dog who on ocasion walks on there yard and I dont have a big family, selling this stuff seems easy I just don't have alot of people to get recomendations from. They said if u put the 150 depost in u can always get the money back if u want out,after doing some reaserch im thinkin about not going but ive been trying and its hard 2 get a job these days. Hmmmm

Go to craigslist.com, its a god send. click on the right on your state and city then on the job category you want to look in. Also if you don't already have a driver's license do whatever you can to git one.

I am a senior in high school and I just attended the interview for Vector Marketing last week. I knew nothing of the company when I first walked in...so many of you are right...they said they hire less than 20% of applicants, so I was psyched when I got the job! However, when I left and came back home, I decided to do some research on the company myself. I was certainly not expecting to see LOADS OF WEBSITES/WEBPAGES on how Vector is nothing but a scam. I did think it was odd though, that you still get paid that base price of $14 (I'm in Milwaukee) even if you don't sell any orders. I have training this upcoming weekend, and I don't think I'll go. Plus, why would it be on their official website that you have to put a security deposit down for the knives...but when I called them they told me I didn't have to pay anything?!

Hello to you all.
My name is LeAnn,and I have read all of your comments you have posted on this website.I just want to thank you all for giving me such great input on Vector marketing.I also,like most,have an interview tomorrow.I am now nervous of what to expect because of all the critisim.I might add there were also alot of positive things said about Vector as well.

I am highly aware of scams and the consequences that may occur within these scams.The person I talked to in getting me set up with an interview helped me a great deal and also answered all my questions.I have done my research on the company.I suppose everywhere is different when applying for Vector.The pay involved is yes in fact, maybe "to good to be true," but it doesnt hurt to find out for yourself.

Anyway,I thank you all for taking your time to read what I have to say on the matter.If there is any advice you can possibly give me,please send it my way...LeAnn

My 50 cents would have to be if you're a high school student, or still living with parents trying to make some money on the side, than this experience + the possible bene fits are perfect for you.

However if your in college or living on your own and have bills to pay, your #1 priority should be to secure a good job. If this is all you can find at first take it and see what you can do with it. as soon as you here from anyone else, dump Vector, and git on it. Unless you feel you're succeeding at Vector right from the start, I don't believe its the wisest investment of time and money to try and try again with Vector, or really any commision based marketing job.

-Jose

PS I'm happy as hell cus I'm getting a fulltime 1-10 12 per hour job next week!!!

Stay in school yall so you don't have to deal with this bull.

LeAnn in Wesley Chapel, Florida said: Hello to you all.
My name is LeAnn,and I have read all of your comments you have posted on this website.I just want to thank you all for giving me such great input on Vector marketing.I also,like most,have an interview tomorrow.I am now nervous of what to expect because of all the critisim.I might add there were also alot of positive things said about Vector as well.

I am highly aware of scams and the consequences that may occur within these scams.The person I talked to in getting me set up with an interview helped me a great deal and also answered all my questions.I have done my research on the company.I suppose everywhere is different when applying for Vector.The pay involved is yes in fact, maybe "to good to be true," but it doesnt hurt to find out for yourself.

Anyway,I thank you all for taking your time to read what I have to say on the matter.If there is any advice you can possibly give me,please send it my way...LeAnn

Just remember, the interview is a sales pitch and the first day of training is a sales pitch. I never showed up for the second day, so i don't know about that one.

Brandon in Fredericksburg, Ontario said: I applied for a job at Vector Marketing and they called me for an interview. I showed up to the appointment (which was today) and I was there with about 6 other people. They went on this huge thing about how good their knives were and I was convinced that they are good. So I came home today and was pretty happy that I had gotten the job. Then I was sitting there and I told my girlfriend that we have to find the people ourselves to sell to. She told me she thought it was a scam so I looked it up. Good thing I did. Apparently vector rips off thousands of students every year like this. How the hell can they get away with such crap? I should have known though because their signs were duct taped to the wall, and the room was only like 10' by 10'.

What really pisses me off is how do they get away with such filth??? There were other people in the interview too that I'm not sure if they also got the job or if it was just me. But something needs to be done about this bull. I'm not sure if I should tell someone or if I should just let it go or what. But what a load of s*** this is.

how do they get away with it... maybe it's not a scam? i think if you people are sooo mad and feel sooo beyrayed, you should contact the president of vector marketing and demand an explanation

Wow Im really nervous now. I have an interview scheduled for tommorow, even though it is Memeorial Day. I am a college student but I am still living with my parents because I do not have a job right now and am desperate. If anyone watches "The Office" on NBC I thought it was going to be a sales job similar to that, but after reading this, Im not so sure. Should I just go to the interview and decide after that?

Miranda in Marlboro, New York said: I agree....I too fell for this stupis scam. Except i didnt pay for the knives. Because by the time they said that we had to pay for them, i never came back.

I love how negative quotes are coming from people who never worked for the company or went through training and then never worked after training. talk to anyone who worked for this company for 1 month or longer and you will find out the truth. I have worked with vector for 1 year and made 25 grand. Through this company I was able to pay for my first year of college without student loans or help from my parents. I have grown and developed as a person more in the one year I have worked with vector than any other year of my life. I am so thankful to have had this great opportunity at such a young age.

Matt in Fort Worth, Texas said: By the way Vector marketing doesn't make any money off of the sample kit money. it's mailed directly to the company in olean. the kits are totally refundable at any time whether it be 20 seconds, 20 days or 20 years later. i was an assistant manager for vector. you all need to get your facts right. there is no door to door sales or cold calling involved and we let people know about us on the phone when they're signing up for an interview. they are even told about the product.

I was recently accepted to start training for Vector a week ago . I went through with the first interview and found that I am truly a skeptic at heart. As soon as I left I found there were a lot of things that were off about the whole way things were handled start to finish. When I called to find out about the position all I got from the the receptionist was that I would be handling sales and she neglected to answer my questions about what, how and where. Which only were prompted by the fact there was no mentioning of them in the letter i received from the company. I had the same experience as most that started to schedule an interview and was told I would have to be at the sight of the interview in less than an hour or I wouldn't be able to apply. I am signed up for the Seminars on Thur. Fri. and Sat. and you can bet I plan on having plenty of my questions answered before I even consider working for a place with the expectation that you need to be spending money you don't have, to be making it... sorry to say it doesn't look good so far. Especially after the way they describe the way they plan for you to start your training which even after the 2 hour interview isn't paid for. It's really a shame because I have to admit I was drawn in by their " happy employees = happy customers and good business" approach. Don't you wish that real world hourly jobs had that philosophy?

Their not going to outright steal your money. Some people have complained that they are a total waste of time, which may end up being true for you, but see first if this your cup of tea. I went to the first, group interview I was going all out with the being professional, I was pimpin the tux, and answering just about every question he threw at me, basically I was basically in sycophant mode, which is my default when I'm on the prowl fr a job. So it came as no surprise to me that I got the job. I was super happy, like some peeps here, but later on researched them on the web, and after reading stories very similar to mine with compelling explanations I was like oh sh**t!

I would have to say that if you've never been so elaborately "scammed" before it is a good experience. It's not truely a scam but I made my decision not to pursue this job cus like you I'm a college student, and I'm not about to waste several weeks of my summer for a days paycheck at a different job. (Git my logic?)

After reading tons of reviews I now know what to look for at these jobs. If I need to pay for my supplies to work I should think about it. If its a commision based job do I want to take that risk "challenge, lol." Am I going to be doing a job I HATE, and end up having a bad time and negative feelings about what I do. DO I HAVE the TRANSPORTATION to be going around to several appointments. DO I FEEL I HAVE THE SKILLS TO SELL SOMETHING TO PEEPS I have never met.

Qs like that might help you make a decision.

I have just started working with this vector marketing and would like to know what they are trully before I comment in my next visit.
I have heard much from friends and from the people who reported these scams but I believe in first hand infomation.
Vector marketing have offices in most cities and I think that if they are actually scamming students then all students should send a report so inquiries into their activities could be carried out by the police.
Why not done all these years ? That makes me feel that there is something I need to know of before making any judgements here.

Shan in Nashville, Tennessee said: This company calls you for an interview, and some people as soon as they walked back would walk right back out. Well come to find out he says that if he didn't like the way you looked when he first met you then he won't hire you. Then we find out that we are trying to sell knives and things. But of course he didn't mention the fact that we have to invest over a 100 bucks to start the job. We have to purchase the knives and then use that as our sells guide to show customers. This was the biggest scam I had ran across yet. Any business you have to invest money in to get hired, you should know it just ain't right!!!How do they expect you to purchase something like that and you are trying to get a job. Oh you don't want to talk about the door to door sales. Yeah you need to find your own people to sale to by the way. If this sounds like the job for you, then goodluck to you!!

To all of you misinformed people...Vector is the greatest opportunity you could be given! I work with Vector as a sales representative and a receptionist and I would not trade this experience for anything in the world. It is true that you purchase your kit but it is 70% off and when you leave you can either hand the kit back in to get your money back OR you could sell the knives full price to customers and you would get more than what you paid in. This job teaches confidence, people skills, public speaking and so much more. If you want the true picture of what Vector is all about visit www.workforstudents.com
Keep an open mind and you will go far

mike a in Pompano Beach, Florida said: that is the most ignorant comment i've ever read. I began working for this company in 2005 and in one year made 50k as a part timer. I agree that it is hard to succedd if you are not capable of managing yourself.

I can tell you work very hard here! 50K in one year wow!!!! what's better than selling knives I wonder how much vectors' share holders make if u make 50K damn must be 50 mil. Be aware people the cam is on the rise!!

I think the latter is right .I have been there less than 2weeks and I do not see any fishy thing there.I hope to know better after a long time of interaction with them.
Its simple the case whereby the take 70% as down deposit. Considering the possibility of student or a worker not returing the items.
I think each person on this earth is unique therefore it might be different from vector marketing office to another.Who knows a manager at vector marketing A is a cheat while that of B is not?

Miranda in Marlboro, New York said: I agree....I too fell for this stupis scam. Except i didnt pay for the knives. Because by the time they said that we had to pay for them, i never came back.

same here. years and years ago, and they're still doing the same thing -- well, i guess if it ain't broke...