WHO ELSE GOT FIRED FROM WACHOVIA THIS PAST WEEK IN GEORGIA???

here is another reality. I spoke with another bank who eliminated me from contention as they saw my u5 and would not proceed with the interview process. If this is the trend, wachovia is in for a rough fight.
Mark, Any time someone is fired they are told not to speak with any bank employees. Its to eliminate the loss of existing customers and potential communication to existing employee as to what happened.
In this sitution, it is worse. Wachovia does not want word to get out and its too bad that it will. People now know why we were all fired and I am sure they will see some turnover from this, due to the way they treat their emplyees. I believe the leaders were told not to communicate to any of their FSs to avoid an investigation into the leaders in turn into the rbd's. I am more qualified and professional than any of these leaders. I am starting to blame myself for not even seeing this coming. Shame on me, but my focus is now on wachovias management and correcting the interpretation of my seperation from Wachovia.

can you get a copy of your U5? If you can send a copy to the attorney. I'm sure they will lose employees as well. But I do

I started a website at exwbemployees.com to pull all of this information together. You can read my mini bio there and what ultimately placed me in this situation (the ¨CROWN AFFAIR¨ if you ask me). My expectation today is to work extensively to bring order to the site and make each post revolving around information we need (names of lawyers, all the documentation we need, meeting locations, etc.) Let´s make sense out of all this. I´ll keep you all posted throughout the day.

The site again: exwbemployees.com

i sympathize with you, was fired for exactly the same reason.

exwbemployees.com

exwbemployee in Raleigh said: i sympathize with you, was fired for exactly the same reason.

exwbemployees.com

i tried getting on this web site-doe'nt come up. Can you please post the link

Got on signed in great site...
I told you my story

Hey has anyone else signed up for unemployment and are they blocking it???
I have to have insurance and I need the money to pay for cobra.

Who has a camera on their computer. We can communicate thru the computer with our voice... just cover the camera if you don't want to be seen.. Somekind of teleconferencing. Does anyone know how to do that??

exwbemployee in Raleigh said: I started a website at exwbemployees.com to pull all of this information together. You can read my mini bio there and what ultimately placed me in this situation (the ¨CROWN AFFAIR¨ if you ask me). My expectation today is to work extensively to bring order to the site and make each post revolving around information we need (names of lawyers, all the documentation we need, meeting locations, etc.) Let´s make sense out of all this. I´ll keep you all posted throughout the day.

The site again: exwbemployees.com

please email me at dealornodeal1965@yahoo.com

you can access it also through exwachovia.wordpress.com/

www.exwbemployees.com redirects to this page

exwachovia.wordpress.com/2008/03/24/march-24-the-latest-on-wachovia-class-actions-from-indeed/

I´m trying to get a headcount for all the employees here, including region and reason for termination so I can get on the phone with Walter Berkel (and other lawyers we´re looking at and ones with wb employees already) and get more information. If you can please add your names, the info, and email (voluntary, or otherwise ill update) we can keep this organized and consolidate all of the info from the different threads on Indeed.

pissed off girl white in Birmingham, Alabama said: Ofcourse it it. It is easier to terminate you guys instead of reporting it as downsizing which they are actually doing since they never did rebound from that World Savins bank that put them in the whole. If you noticed, they had to look back to 2007 and not 2008 for this switching accounts thing. Now regarding non compete, thats a bit different. Non compete is when you the employee signs a contract stating that if you leave a particular firm, you can not take clients with you nor can you reach out to those clients and thats what non compete is. In this case, it was simply Wachovia trying to put salt in the wound.

FYI, it wasn't the "world savings thing" that put them in the hole. It was their own real estate loans and investments" World savings loans were profitable. They have been investing in money losing ventures for years.

sandrap pen in Atlanta, Georgia said: I am one who was fired recently and I worked in the Atlanta region. The reason for my termination is the same as everyone elses.....Changing accounts. you can get my email from joker, or pissed offgurlwhite. Now ofcourse my real name is not Sandra but i had to give her some of the glory and praise since it was Sandra, the ready talent coordinator which told me to open crowns exclusively.

love it... My name should be Mike

lol Sandra could also be a give away. Im using a fake name (Sara Milford, just came off the top of my head) to run my site and to post here.

exwbemployees.com

Hey all,
Heard from the lawyer from DC
Does anyone know anything about the below
I'm not sure if there is or not.
If you have any info PLEASE give him a call soon.
Thanks and momentum is rolling.

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Terry Birkel <TBirkel@tighepatton.com> wrote:

Is there a uniform severance package WB gives to employees laid off and not fired for cause? Does it involve paying health insurance premiums?
Thanks Terry Birkel

Walter G. Birkel, Esq.
Tighe Patton Armstrong Teasdale, PLLC
1747 Pennsylvania Ave., N.W.
Suite 300
Washington, D.C. 20006
Phone: (202) 454-2841
Fax: (202) 454-2805

I was initally fired on March 10 and was put on admin leave of 10 days. RBD terminated me on 21st by phone. They never contacted me for investigation. I am still waiting for my offical termination letter from HR.

I have a copy of WB’s “Lead with Crown..” training power point presentation that was distributed in one of the training classes. I am sure many Fs’s, who still are employed, may have copies of this presentation.

Please, email me with any other good info. I can upload copy of power point presentation tommorrow. My email address is wbhater@yahoo.com

i am going to see a pretty good lawyer friday and i would love to have a copy .please email me a copy of the presentation after you uploaded.

thanks

mdoctor before you go any further, email me.. I need to tell you something.
Joker, you too.

hey dealornodeal,

have you discussed the fees with this lawyer. ?

mdoctor in New Jersey said: hey dealornodeal,

have you discussed the fees with this lawyer. ?

no not yet he is not our lawyer.. He has not decided if it was going to be worth while to take the case, we haven't signed anything.
I really need to tell you something...

man lok in Rome, Georgia said: I was initally fired on March 10 and was put on admin leave of 10 days. RBD terminated me on 21st by phone. They never contacted me for investigation. I am still waiting for my offical termination letter from HR.

I have a copy of WB’s “Lead with Crown..” training power point presentation that was distributed in one of the training classes. I am sure many Fs’s, who still are employed, may have copies of this presentation.

Please, email me with any other good info. I can upload copy of power point presentation tommorrow. My email address is wbhater@yahoo.com

Hey Manlok,

Cool another Georgia person.. Where's Rome at isn't by Dalton?
Welcome Aboard!!!

make sure the attorney get a copy of the power point presentation.
If Wachovia wants to mess with our U5's then they must not want us to work. Instead let them support us.

there should be no fees with the attorney when it is a class action suit.

mark hassler in Commerce, Georgia said: there should be no fees with the attorney when it is a class action suit.

the problem is that the firm needs to agree that it is well worth it prior to taking the case.

Id assume this is not going to be easy.

Please make sure everyone is going to the following links, it is important to make some comments over there.

you can access it also through exwachovia.wordpress.com/

www.exwbemployees.com redirects to this page

See above post by exwbemployee for the direct link. For some reason, the second link is not working. but if you go to the wordpress, you should be good to go.

HAS ANYONE CALL CLARK HOWARD?

We need to make sure that we're heard. They are playing around with our lives. HR finally returned my call yesterday and said that they would correct my pay but didn't know exactly when it would be credited. Now it's been more than a week since they debited my account. What the H*** is going on with Wachovia?

We must be heard!! We cannot back down. And I'll bet our FSL's RBD's and everyone else up the chain are sleeping well at night..

All I have to say is what goes around comes around.

Man Lok, can you please send me that documentation from the crown training class? Im going to collect all of our documents and centralize it on our site so that we dont have to search through 12 different threads for it.

exwbemployees.com

My email is smilford66@gmail.com

thanks.

exwachovia.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/official-documentation-thread/

Let´s centralize all of the documents we need for lawyers and contacts HERE. Man Lok, whenever you´re able, fire off that file. Thanks.

-S

I have send copy of "Lead With Crown" training powerpoint presentation to exwbemployee. It is not in its entirety but has all important excerpts dealing with "Crown account" situation. He/She will post it at her/his blog soon in pdf format for everyone to draw from. Mdoctor what is yor email address, I can also send you this if you still desire.

I think it is time to reveal ourselves. How long are we going to hide behind our skirts? What is a hold out for? We all are fired for wrong reasons and if we have no courage then may be suffer for it.

Getting fired for what the company asked for cannot happen in good old America. This is a land of Braves. Where are names of RBDs, FSL and trainers; they just jumped entire 3 layers and fired the foot soldiers. What a way to go and they will get away with it. It seems that there are not many of us with strong will. I sense the energy is fading...! What is a correct # of fired employees. I do not think it is 600, if it's true then where are these folks. They do not know. Pick up the phone and call all wachovia in the area and act as a client looking for FS who helped you 15-20 days ago and see if she is fired and get her name somehow. We need a way to connect these guys.

HR is not co-operative in providing investigation report and employees fired information. Lets us go get WB..!

man lok,

my email is mdoctor101@yahoo.com. there should be about 10 people in just the nnj market. we need to work on fixing the u5 first. have you contacted any lawyers yet ?

Got the file

Now uploaded for us to see that dont have it

exwachovia.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/official-documentation-thread/#comment-30

Hi, I'm also in Georgia and there was one other FS in my region that got fired. I am not taking this lying down. Here is my email address madashell123@yahoo.com. We need to try and get the people in Georgia together and meet somewhere. At least the ones in the metro area. I worked outside of metro but am very close to Atlanta.

Please email me..

PLEASE DO NOT REVEAL LAWSUIT STRATEGY OF ANY KIND ON THESE FORUMS. YOU WILL ONLY LET WACHOVIA KNOW WHAT YOU ARE UP TO. WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO STAY DISCRETE AND ORGANIZE MEETINGS ASAP.

pissed off girl white in Birmingham, Alabama said: LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE. USE THE EMAIL ADDRESSES OF THOSE YOU KNOW FOR A FACT ARE LEGITIMATE EX EMPLOYEES AND IF THERE IS ANY DOUBT, DO NOT EMAIL ANYONE ANY STRATEGY.

yes this is true,, make sure you know that they are legit, ask them all the right questions and I will have my friend look them up on hr.
Also, if anyone on this forum is asking for your name, be very careful.

man lok in Rome, Georgia said: I have send copy of "Lead With Crown" training powerpoint presentation to exwbemployee. It is not in its entirety but has all important excerpts dealing with "Crown account" situation. He/She will post it at her/his blog soon in pdf format for everyone to draw from. Mdoctor what is yor email address, I can also send you this if you still desire.

I think it is time to reveal ourselves. How long are we going to hide behind our skirts? What is a hold out for? We all are fired for wrong reasons and if we have no courage then may be suffer for it.

Getting fired for what the company asked for cannot happen in good old America. This is a land of Braves. Where are names of RBDs, FSL and trainers; they just jumped entire 3 layers and fired the foot soldiers. What a way to go and they will get away with it. It seems that there are not many of us with strong will. I sense the energy is fading...! What is a correct # of fired employees. I do not think it is 600, if it's true then where are these folks. They do not know. Pick up the phone and call all wachovia in the area and act as a client looking for FS who helped you 15-20 days ago and see if she is fired and get her name somehow. We need a way to connect these guys.

HR is not co-operative in providing investigation report and employees fired information. Lets us go get WB..!

Good point Manlok..
Send me a copy of the powerpoint
please
dealornodeal1965@yahoo.com

I'll go to any meeting you have with in a days drive. I can't even get my papers showing that I have been released as they put it.

Ok guys I have been simmering on some ideas. I need to communicate these to you in a very discrete manner. I will email you these if you want me to.
I think these ideas will make a big difference. Give me a couple of days before I respond to your emails as I am trying to come up with a synopsis of the last few weeks. You will need this synopsis in the near future.

Keep in contact... I look forward to hearing from all of you soon.

dealornodeal196 in somewher, Belize said: Ok guys I have been simmering on some ideas. I need to communicate these to you in a very discrete manner. I will email you these if you want me to.
I think these ideas will make a big difference. Give me a couple of days before I respond to your emails as I am trying to come up with a synopsis of the last few weeks. You will need this synopsis in the near future.

Keep in contact... I look forward to hearing from all of you soon.

Let me know...sail1957@alltel.net

I just sent it to you..
Please pass it around. I think it's at least an "easy" start for all of us.
what do you think.

dealornodeal196 in somewher, Belize said: I just sent it to you..
Please pass it around. I think it's at least an "easy" start for all of us.
what do you think.

Can you send me your ideas please at wbhater@yahoo.com

Please send it to me as well. I will not post it on our site (exwbemployees.com to all those that want to discuss our ongoing issues)

smilford66@gmail.com

wow, dudes. that georgia thing is terrible. but if it helps, they are going around the country "cutting" expenses. several people in texas were fired for the same thing. however, i think the crown thing is just the start, here fsl's encourage fs's to deposit cd money into checking...let it validate...then move it to a cd. absolutely does not benefit the fs as 96 day validations are where it's at, but it does make the "uppers" look good. i am fairly new to wack, but was licensed for many years before coming here and understand the importance of keeping that securities record clean. only because i have been around the block and been taken before did i know that crap does not sound right when asked to do it. from what i see, they pull policy as an excuse to fire, but have you ever tried finding any policy/rules that say don't do it or how to do it correctly? as a newbie, you only know what you are taught. i think you guys/gals are upset because you simply misunderstood what management was saying when you got here. what they REALLY said was, do this to help me keep my job, or get fired....and if you get caught doing it, i will ignore you...and then you get fired! you see? just a simple miscommunication/misunderstanding. and you guys/gals were probably making too much money. please advise your friends/co-workers that are still there that the way to go is to not generate too much in commissions. of course, if the stock prices don't go up soon, those employees will soon face termination b/c of lack of production. so to sum it all up, goals are impossible to meet if you do it the "right" way. so just be a sub par performer and wait to get fired the good old fashioned way for not producing!

nada erona in dallas, Texas said: wow, dudes. that georgia thing is terrible. but if it helps, they are going around the country "cutting" expenses. several people in texas were fired for the same thing. however, i think the crown thing is just the start, here fsl's encourage fs's to deposit cd money into checking...let it validate...then move it to a cd. absolutely does not benefit the fs as 96 day validations are where it's at, but it does make the "uppers" look good. i am fairly new to wack, but was licensed for many years before coming here and understand the importance of keeping that securities record clean. only because i have been around the block and been taken before did i know that crap does not sound right when asked to do it. from what i see, they pull policy as an excuse to fire, but have you ever tried finding any policy/rules that say don't do it or how to do it correctly? as a newbie, you only know what you are taught. i think you guys/gals are upset because you simply misunderstood what management was saying when you got here. what they REALLY said was, do this to help me keep my job, or get fired....and if you get caught doing it, i will ignore you...and then you get fired! you see? just a simple miscommunication/misunderstanding. and you guys/gals were probably making too much money. please advise your friends/co-workers that are still there that the way to go is to not generate too much in commissions. of course, if the stock prices don't go up soon, those employees will soon face termination b/c of lack of production. so to sum it all up, goals are impossible to meet if you do it the "right" way. so just be a sub par performer and wait to get fired the good old fashioned way for not producing!

Wow.. You are so right.. Please direct your fired employees to this sight.
Thanks for the support...

ok guysm

I know who manlok is and I was wrong.. Someone I know personally, but didn't realize it till today.. I also know upset and angry I talked to her too on the phone. I know bankboy719, joker, gottheax..smilford..

I´ve updated with two new posts. We really need to know how strong Walter Berkel out of DC with hispotential plaintiff count and know if people here have contacted the Charlotte Observer reporter.

exwbemployees.com

well I've contacted the attorney and I'm in. If Wachovia wants to keep me from finding another job, what choice do I have.

man lok in Rome, Georgia said: I have send copy of "Lead With Crown" training powerpoint presentation to exwbemployee. It is not in its entirety but has all important excerpts dealing with "Crown account" situation. He/She will post it at her/his blog soon in pdf format for everyone to draw from. Mdoctor what is yor email address, I can also send you this if you still desire.

I think it is time to reveal ourselves. How long are we going to hide behind our skirts? What is a hold out for? We all are fired for wrong reasons and if we have no courage then may be suffer for it.

Getting fired for what the company asked for cannot happen in good old America. This is a land of Braves. Where are names of RBDs, FSL and trainers; they just jumped entire 3 layers and fired the foot soldiers. What a way to go and they will get away with it. It seems that there are not many of us with strong will. I sense the energy is fading...! What is a correct # of fired employees. I do not think it is 600, if it's true then where are these folks. They do not know. Pick up the phone and call all wachovia in the area and act as a client looking for FS who helped you 15-20 days ago and see if she is fired and get her name somehow. We need a way to connect these guys.

HR is not co-operative in providing investigation report and employees fired information. Lets us go get WB..!

Hey Manlok,

Nice talking with you today.. Funny how we knew each other.
anyway, please send me leading with the crown brochure.
thanks

Hey everyone,
Just another kicker with the big W. They took over 600.00 out of my account after I was paid. Better watch out for your accounts.. You could be next.

I talked to hr -all our carry over pto from last yr (which I was told initially I would get paid for) and our February incentive will be forfieted. They are really treating us as criminals

upset-n-angry in Georgia said: I talked to hr -all our carry over pto from last yr (which I was told initially I would get paid for) and our February incentive will be forfieted. They are really treating us as criminals

write your letter!!!!
You need to voice this. I did already.

Hang on FS's
Following your story... Seems to me pretty cut and dry.

Go get em!!!