Fake JOB

I usually don't bother with temp jobs because when I call about it they say "that position has been filled but we have those type of jobs all the time, come in an sign up". Yeah right!

Yep! Some also say that "there is a job, we will hold it. Just come in..." When you get there and ask about it "well, the company called this morning and cancelled the job order". Sure.

me said: Yep! Some also say that "there is a job, we will hold it. Just come in..." When you get there and ask about it "well, the company called this morning and cancelled the job order". Sure.

While I doubt that they would have held it for you, the other part of your post happens all the time. I have had several positions just this week that our marketing director was told were sure things. I got candidates, did interviews and started sending resumes to the clients. Yesterday, I received 2 calls from the hiring managers saying that there are budget issues and the positions are on hold for a time TBD.

You have to understand this type of thing happens quite frequently. Then I have all these candidates I have interviewed and have to call them and say..uh sorry, the position fell through. As you can imagine that doesn't go very well, and ruins my rep as a recruiter.

FYI, I do not work for a large recruiting firm. The one I work for is a small family owned business. So the larger ones may be different.

JustinK said:
While I doubt that they would have held it for you, the other part of your post happens all the time. I have had several positions just this week that our marketing director was told were sure things. I got candidates, did interviews and started sending resumes to the clients. Yesterday, I received 2 calls from the hiring managers saying that there are budget issues and the positions are on hold for a time TBD.
You have to understand this type of thing happens quite frequently. Then I have all these candidates I have interviewed and have to call them and say..uh sorry, the position fell through. As you can imagine that doesn't go very well, and ruins my rep as a recruiter.
FYI, I do not work for a large recruiting firm. The one I work for is a small family owned business. So the larger ones may be different.

Hard lesson learned: When I follow up on a position, the following questions are usually asked:
1) FIRST - Has this position actually approved yet? There is a large pharma company to be built 10 miles from my house. They've posted jobs for 2 months. Ground has not even been broken yet !
2) Was someone else chosen?
3) If so, can you tell me (or find out), what I can improve on?
4) Do you (recruiter) have any suggestions on how I can improve my prospects?
The first instinct to be turned down is to get the bad news and hang up. However, "being rejected", can be a learning experience. Use experience, good or bad, to your advantage.
Even if the recruiter seems rushed to get onto the next job, ask questions anyway. Any worthwhile person will take the time and you'll use THEM or refer yours friends, forums, etc. to them first.

Jan said: I know for a fact that this position is real since I am one of the recruiters. The position is still open and we are still accepting resumes. We receive quite a few resumes everyday, and I wish we could reply to every single candidate who apply to each position but that would take us away from filling open positions. If you've applied for this position and feel that your qualifications and skills fit the job description, please send me your cover letter, salary history, and a word doc of your resume.
As a recruiter I look for the quality of each candidate, not quantity. We actually take the time to interview each qualified candidate, get to know them, and listen to to what is is they're looking for in their next position.

Look, the credibility of all search firms is on the line because search firms do ignore qualifed applicants for reasons of their own. Almost everyone has submitted a resume that was an exact match for a job, and been ignored. That's probably why this person thought this job was fake, even if it wasn't.

Small Town near Big Town said:
Hard lesson learned: When I follow up on a position, the following questions are usually asked:
1) FIRST - Has this position actually approved yet? There is a large pharma company to be built 10 miles from my house. They've posted jobs for 2 months. Ground has not even been broken yet !
2) Was someone else chosen?
3) If so, can you tell me (or find out), what I can improve on?
4) Do you (recruiter) have any suggestions on how I can improve my prospects?
The first instinct to be turned down is to get the bad news and hang up. However, "being rejected", can be a learning experience. Use experience, good or bad, to your advantage.
Even if the recruiter seems rushed to get onto the next job, ask questions anyway. Any worthwhile person will take the time and you'll use THEM or refer yours friends, forums, etc. to them first.

A recruiter should be able to answer some of your questions. However like I said, there are time our marketing director comes back and says yes its approved, start sending people. Come to find out the hiring manager didn't have it approved, we can not control that kind of stuff. A recruiter should be able to answer #2 no problem, #3 is a problem though. Typically, hiring managers will just tell us yes or no on a candidate. If a recruiter asks for more information, a lot of the time a hiring manager will get upset. Which we don't want because we want to work with them in the future again. #4 a recruiter can definitely help you out on. Before we send anyone out, we do face to face interviews. This is to get to know the candidate and also to coach them if they get an interview at a clients. I also give resume tips out all the time to candidate to help them out.

If anyone would like any help on anything (resume tips, interview tips, etc.) please feel free to ask on out new forums. www.tekshak.com

2 months ago Jan posted her comment "I know for a fact that this position is real since I am one of the recruiters. The position is still open and we are still accepting resumes. We receive quite a few resumes everyday, and I wish we could reply to every single candidate who apply to each position but that would take us away from filling open positions. If you've applied for this position and feel that your qualifications and skills fit the job description, please send me your cover letter, salary history, and a word doc of your resume.

As a recruiter I look for the quality of each candidate, not quantity. We actually take the time to interview each qualified candidate, get to know them, and listen to to what is is they're looking for in their next position."

Part of my response dealt with finding a recruiter you can trust who would be responsive as seen below. It has been over a month and no contact from Jan - so apparently this is not a Recruiter you would want to do businees with.

I would suggest that anyone who might be interested in this posting take Jan up on the contact, with the expectation that if Jan does not get back to you that you then post that fact in a public forum like this. I would also suggest that if Jan does follow up as promised, that you then also post that. This way if folks can find a recruiter that delivers on promises then everyone wins. In my case I would welcome contact from Jan, however by the same token the pay listed on this position may be on the low side.

For anyone who believes, as I do, that you need to give the Recruiter the initial benefit of the doubt maybe you should give JustinK in Bloomfield Hills a shot. From his posts he appears to be the quality Recruiter that you might be looking for. He certainly has the correct information that he has been willing to share. He certainly appears honest, because he is quite correct in that the Recruiter can only go on the information given to them.

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From what I have seen on other forums, especially those for OfficeTeam and Robert Half, Jan is just one of the names this person uses to blast anyone who has anything negative to say about OT or RHI. From what I have seen on the forums, this person posts responses frequently during the "work" day.

I'd also like to see if anyone gets a job-related response back from the person also.

BTW - Jan seems to have posted from Pleasanton, Santa Clara, and Sunnyvale. All about 30 minutes from Pleasanton - HQ for RHI.

For all of postings from Pleasanton, CA,(now he calls himself biddog) from the person that supports Office Team and RHI, please see the posting at the forum shown below. This is one of his supreme postings. He/she is a disgrace to himself and company. I don't understand how he has been able to get away with this for over 2 months. First he was an employee, then he was a recruiter, now, he USES RHI to fill apparently IT positions in his company.

Search forums for RHI, then the one listed below.
Very important post - Robert Half & Age Discrimination

Here's an excerpt.

From bigdog in Pleasanton, CA:
If you cant get a job through RHT its because they can only work with the top. .. you idiots blame your own inability to find a job because a recruiting firm decides they cant place ... I've used RHT for years and let them screen out all of the broke dicks like you before I look at their top candidates.

.. crying on monday morning by the water cooler about how shix$y the company is. Then you cry now because no one will place you.

ever think because the RHT checks backgrounds it might be your performance.

Cheers- best of luck. as they say in sales - "you'll be shining my shoes"

anonymous said: Look, the credibility of all search firms is on the line because search firms do ignore qualifed applicants for reasons of their own. Almost everyone has submitted a resume that was an exact match for a job, and been ignored. That's probably why this person thought this job was fake, even if it wasn't.

Exactly!!! I've applied to numerous positions that I was well qualified for and never got any response what so ever. Is it that hard to reply to someone?

Rachael Winfrey said: I think in getting a job from any of these agencies depends on timing and how recent your skills are. I truly believe that if your over a certain age, you have to work extra harder in finding work because their resumes end up in the trash because their clients probably tell them not to send them anyone over a certain age...who's kidding who.

I think you are completely wrong! The reality of it is, I am a very young professional, with a great degree of education and experience, and I struggled for a year to find a great job. I do not think staffing agencies care about age, as much as they do meeting the demands of the client. If they consistently give clients bad leads, the client will go else where. This is basic business practice. Further more, you all are taking this hiring process extremely personal. It is simply a process by which only 1 or a few individuals can be chosen, and if you were the person, you would not be so upset.

Westaff does indeed post fake jobs. And their service at least at my local office is very unprofessional. I won't go as far as saying that all temp agencies are a waste of time, but I certainly think they aren't for everyone.

Temps in general: you need to market yourself big-time! If you have the skills- and master the tests, etc, then something will show, eventually. You also need top-notch refs. I just got a job at OT. But, it did not happen overnight! This economy sucks, so you have to be sure that you can rise to the top in attitude, appaarance, skills, the entire package. I never give up. I call them each week, email them with jobs that they advertise. Even if they are fake, eventually they will see that
a. you truly want to work
b. you are getting on their nerves and the only way for you to "go away" is to get you a job!
Either way-!!
Good Luck to all!

Josey Nelson said: For all you out there reading this..it is very legitimate to request SS and D.L doc's without hiring!!! And I guess if you have time to sit on the internet bashing companies, your all not looking for jobs to hard are ya!!

Hope this gets back to Josey. I don't look every day for a job because I get anxiety attacks everytime I sit at my computer because I've been out of work for so long. Westaff had that job that was "Just for Me". I went in, did the registration crap, gave them a voided check for my "payroll" and have never heard back. I've called them 3 times and spoken to the lady that told me the above twice. She always tells me she will call me back. Good thing I'm not holding my breath.

anonymous said: They aren't trying to be ethical , they want to "check you out" before they talk to you. You can be honest, etc, but unfor, if your credit is horrible due to some bad luck or you made a mistake when you were a kid, they "count you out". That is why I hate temps! I was pregnant and lost my insurance. Went to the drs to help my new baby and had the state help me. He came early and I was out of the state visiting family (one state away- 2 hrs). Well, I might as well not had insurance. My credit is horrible becuase of it.
If you can, avoid the "Temps". Other "direct" employes only ask you for this info after they made you an offer.

Anonymous:
If you're still out there, I am curious if you have found a job yet. I am now registered with 3 temp agencies in Knoxville, and I might as well be invisible. No phone calls returned, very few jobs available (Catalyst--Whirlpool). Catalyst drug tested me before I was even placed at Whirlpool. Then I was in WP's training program for a week. By Wednesday, one of the supervisors told me I wouldn't work out there if I couldn't be back on time from lunch and breaks. I had got caught on the phone at a break and couldn't get free plus only a 30 minute lunch. I wasn't even a "real" employee yet and they were on my case. Catalyst rep couldn't believe I didn't want to work there when I called in on the second Monday. She asked if I was going to report to WP that day. I wanted to tell the dumb b--ch that I was calling to tell her I quit. I wasn't going to go to work just to quit a temp job.

SheilaG in Knox,TNin Knoxville, Tennessee said: Hope this gets back to Josey. I don't look every day for a job because I get anxiety attacks everytime I sit at my computer because I've been out of work for so long. Westaff had that job that was "Just for Me". I went in, did the registration crap, gave them a voided check for my "payroll" and have never heard back. ..

My suggestion is to go to the office and try to get your check back. I have had two recruiters tell me, point blank, that unless you have a job offer IN HAND, that you don't have to give them your SS# and DL#. If they have all these numbers, I'd be worried.

I went to a job interview thru Westaff, on a Saturday, and it was horrible. The "owner" wanted someone to be admin, office manager, and do outside sales calls - all for 15% less then regional admins. PLUS - be available on some Saturdays if he needed me. FAT CHANCE

Keep your head up. Compare your resume with others online for similar language, skills needed, etc. The searches companies and recruiters use are looking for certain words.

Keep resume brief and to the point. Have someone else read it and see if they see what your strengths are. Then get that resume online as much as you can. Just be cautious about the auto generated jobs or someone who looks for any money up front.

Good luck. Perseverence does pay off.

Okay, I just sent out a resume in response to the ad. I'll give Grant a call and see what's up.

Do you also do temp placements?

I will NEVER work with Aerotek again.

I drove 8 hours ONE-WAY, spent 2 nights in a hotel, spend an ENTIRE day with a company in northern Ohio. The Aerotek recruiter told me the company would pay my hotel, travel expenses, food expenses, etc... I was interviewed by 6 people, everything was going great. As things wound-down and I was again talking to the first interviewer, I mentioned these expenses. Things IMMEDIATELY took a turn for the worse. It was like I spit in their faces. Several hundred dollars wasted when I was not employed. Previous to that, from a different office while I lived in Detroit. Those guys got my name in the ways mentioned here. They kept calling me about lesser jobs that were in no way related to my work. When I started ignoring my calls, they started CALLING ME AT WORK!!! They talked to my BOSS, he wrote me up for seeking other employment. I'm no longer working there and haven't been in over a year.

LOL despite me telling contemporary to put me on "unavailable" status, I still get emails and calls from them about s***ty positions! LOL i'll just ignore them for now :)

SheilaG in Knox,TN in Knoxville, Tennessee said: Anonymous:
If you're still out there, I am curious if you have found a job yet. I am now registered with 3 temp agencies in Knoxville, and I might as well be invisible. No phone calls returned, very few jobs available (Catalyst--Whirlpool). Catalyst drug tested me before I was even placed at Whirlpool. Then I was in WP's training program for a week. By Wednesday, one of the supervisors told me I wouldn't work out there if I couldn't be back on time from lunch and breaks. I had got caught on the phone at a break and couldn't get free plus only a 30 minute lunch. I wasn't even a "real" employee yet and they were on my case. Catalyst rep couldn't believe I didn't want to work there when I called in on the second Monday. She asked if I was going to report to WP that day. I wanted to tell the dumb b--ch that I was calling to tell her I quit. I wasn't going to go to work just to quit a temp job.

Maybe if you put in the effort to be punctual they would have hired you full time.

After the incident of being called aside when I couldn't control the fact that I was late, I didn't want to be hired there. Whirlpool was going to hire me and the entire training class after the training period. I have been in some type of admin position for over 20 years, and I don't feel the need to be micro-managed just because I was 5 minutes late back from a break. If that's how they treat someone the first week, I don't want any part of it. Especially after I explained the situation and got no understanding from the supervisor. I suffer from narcolepsy and have a tough time whe I have to sit and listen to someone talk. When the trainier gave her pep talk at the end of the day, she always mentioned that we should come in "bright-eyed" and with plenty of rest. I knew she was referring to me because I struggled to stay awake in the training sessions.
So Nicole, my friend in CA, don't assume or judge unless you know all the circumstances.

I went to a local staffing agency and about three months i get a call out of the blue to go to an intereview on the other side of town-which was ok-in about an hour-unprepared. They told me on the phone the job was an 8-5 being im a student, I go in the evenings at 6, this was perfect for me and i liked the company. Well I get there all is well until the guy tells me that the hours are much later. He was shocked they had lied to me and i was very disapointed also. He then called the agency while I was in the office and we both gave them hell. He liked me so much he told them I was the last person he was going to see and they were no longer needed. He was very nice and if my hours ever change I could be re intereviewed. Staffing agencies are a waste of time for most people.

You said:

Jan in San Leandro, California said: I know for a fact that this position is real since I am one of the recruiters. The position is still open and we are still accepting resumes. We receive quite a few resumes everyday, and I wish we could reply to every single candidate who apply to each position but that would take us away from filling open positions. If you've applied for this position and feel that your qualifications and skills fit the job description, please send me your cover letter, salary history, and a word doc of your resume.

As a recruiter I look for the quality of each candidate, not quantity. We actually take the time to interview each qualified candidate, get to know them, and listen to to what is is they're looking for in their next position.

Problem I have with that is i've heard others say those things before including Robert Half and its a load of crap. You say alot but do little. Even if an applicant didn't qualify for the first job they applied for with an agency that doesn't mean the agengy should ignore them afterwards. Surely with all the so-called available jobs agencies claim to have there as to be employment on the horizan for many applicants wanting work. So how come most walk away with nothing, no calls, no jobs, no interviews. Agencies don't even try to get most poeple emplyment.

Still Pursuing in Fuquay Varina, North Carolina said: Why do some agencies REQUIRE my personal info, SS#, driver's license #, etc. even before I have been selected as a candidate for review by client. I shouldn't be credit/history screened before a real job is available.

The staffing agency asks for your personal information to determine whether or not you have a right to work in the United States. Plain and simple. It is a screening requirement by the client of the agency unless you are directly placed.

However for a temporary or temp to hire position, if you get so far as providing your information to the agency, you are hired by that agency. This does not guarantee you a job because ultimately the client of the agency makes that decision. For most client's, agencies submit 3 or 4 resumes for each job requisition. Each of the 3 or 4 resumes submitted must be a legitimate employee of the agency before they can be submitted because the client expects that the agency has properly screened the applicant. When you go on a assignment, you are working for the Temporary Agency...not the client. If you are on a temporary to hire assignment, you are being evaluated by the company during the 90 day period (varies) before you are offered a "regular" position with the client. If you do not understand how Temporary Staffing Services work or how temp to hire assignments work or why the agency needs your ID, why not ask them when you call or when you apply for a job?

To address the credit history/background check: 1) Staffing Agencies are paid by the client to run the background check. 2) If you are up front about possible issues that may come up on your credit/background check that you can explain (doctor's bills, etc.), they will generally give you a pass card. 3) If you have credit problems that clearly show a lack of responsibility and accountability, you will most likely not be considered for the position regardless of your skills.

dont waste your valuable time, you'll get nowhere not to mention they'll never gat back to you, dont trust them one bit

Long Time Employee, Outplaced in Fuquay Varina, North Carolina said: Got a real question for you about sending salary history. I have been told more than once that I was not considered for a position because they "could not meet my previous salay". Umm - if I was getting that before, why wouldn't I be worth it for the next job? That is, why can't a person between jobs get paid for what they're worth?

Different positions pay differently, so if you're not being paid what you're worth, then don't take the job. Only take assignments that interest you and that you know that something comes out of it. Often times thought, doing contract work is a great way to network, so be open to that idea.

Still Going Strong in Fuquay Varina, North Carolina said: This is one of his supreme postings. He/she is a disgrace to himself and company. I don't understand how he has been able to get away with this for over 2 months.
Here's an excerpt.

From bigdog in Pleasanton, CA:
If you cant get a job through RHT its because they can only work with the top. .. you idiots blame your own inability to find a job because a recruiting firm decides they cant place ... I've used RHT for years and let them screen out all of the broke dicks like you before I look at their top candidates.

.. crying on monday morning by the water cooler about how shix$y the company is. Then you cry now because no one will place you.

ever think because the RHT checks backgrounds it might be your performance.

Cheers- best of luck. as they say in sales - "you'll be shining my shoes"

______________________________________________________________

That is disgusting. Let's hope that he's a nutcase and doesn't actually work for RH or OT. I just found a position through another agency and have been getting some interviews on my own. The position is a temp to hire, so at least I'll be working while I continue to look.

RH hasn't been finding me anything, but at least I still have medical coverage through the Cobra program through May of 2008 for a very affordable price.

Bhomer in Somersworth, New Hampshire said: Not only do temp agencies do this, but companies do it as well. A perfect example of this is Home Depot.

Home Depot is a joke; not only that their political and slave-like atmosphere make it nearly impossible to get een a response, especially when filing on-line where one never gets a response. Funny, but all of the in-sstore staff enouraged me to apply in the kitchen design area due to my experience in working with them for another compnay. So I did. Out of several online submissions, finally i got an interview with a manager who obviously feared my experience and knwowledge. He did not even call me back, although Home Depot continues to advertise for this and various other positions.

Bhomer in Somersworth, New Hampshire said: Not only do temp agencies do this, but companies do it as well. A perfect example of this is Home Depot.

I'm interested in how Home Depot advertises for non-existing jobs, please explain......Thanks, Rick

Rachael Winfrey in Valley Forge, Pennsylvania said: I think in getting a job from any of these agencies depends on timing and how recent your skills are. I truly believe that if your over a certain age, you have to work extra harder in finding work because their resumes end up in the trash because their clients probably tell them not to send them anyone over a certain age...who's kidding who.

I know this to be true. Companies are looking for young, dumb, ignorant bodies to move things around with the cheapest pay they can get away with (legally or not). Many Retail stores are like this. Sears and Office Max in pictular (sp?) usually only pay ten cents in raises. If you wanted more, you have to get promoted for maybe $1.50 more. Anyone over 30 years of age tend not to fit the profile of young, dumb, or ignorant anymore.

SheilaG in Knox,TN in Knoxville, Tennessee said: Anonymous:
If you're still out there, I am curious if you have found a job yet. I am now registered with 3 temp agencies in Knoxville, and I might as well be invisible. No phone calls returned, very few jobs available. [QUOTE]

I am registered with 5 temps agencies in this city since Oct. Not one call or email except to come in and fill out applications that I had just done online. Once they find out I am deaf, thats it. Interview is over. Three of them used to have me in the online database that sent me daily postings until the interview. Suddenly I m no longer getting ANY postings. It doesnt matter that I have 12+ years in the noisy enviroment that I was perfect for. So I asked the ADA consultant if that was discrimination. She said, yes and no. Yes, that in my face it is clear out right discrimination. No, in that by the time I fill out the EEOC reports and they "complete" their investigaions, the company had hired a hearing person who was "more" qualified. FYI: Colorado EEOC stinks! I know of at least 10 other Deafs who have filed ADA complaints, and get poo-poo'd results.

Anon in Fuquay Varina, North Carolina said: My suggestion is to go to the office and try to get your check back. I have had two recruiters tell me, point blank, that unless you have a job offer IN HAND, that you don't have to give them your SS# and DL#. If they have all these numbers, I'd be worried.

I went to a job interview thru Westaff, on a Saturday, and it was horrible. The "owner" wanted someone to be admin, office manager, and do outside sales calls - all for 15% less then regional admins. PLUS - be available on some Saturdays if he needed me. FAT CHANCE

Keep your head up. Compare your resume with others online for similar language, skills needed, etc. The searches companies and recruiters use are looking for certain words.

Keep resume brief and to the point. Have someone else read it and see if they see what your strengths are. Then get that resume online as much as you can. Just be cautious about the auto generated jobs or someone who looks for any money up front.

Good luck. Perseverence does pay off.

I also learned that putting keywords in bold makes ur resume stand out more. A job coach told me she used to review resumes at a rate of 100 an hour. She had limited time in a workday to go over resumes. Many Many resumes were boring to even look at. The only ones she really looked at made their resumes stand out. Bold words, non-white paper like gold, yellow, lite blue made her slow down and take a closer look.

Looks like discrimination to me, too. Belive me, the EEOC in TN is very unhelpful, too. (Indeed edited me here!) I had filed a claim last year because I have narcolepsy and was fired because on "mistakes" I was making. Claim was never really investigated, and I requested a right-to-sue letter. Could hardly get past a receptionist in any local lawfirm and if I did, it was only to speak with a paralegal. An attorney in my hometown told me my case didn't "excite" him enough to listen to my issues about previous employer. Westaff did me the same way as your place did when I told them about the narcolepsy. Only job they have called me about was in a production factory. Since I broke my back in a car accident, I cannot stand for long periods of time. I always make this clear, but seems they didn't listen. Another temp agency called me this week after registering with them last August or October (can't remember which). Luckily I now have two part=time jobs. Maybe I can pay a bill or two.

Based on my observation and experiences with several agencies such as Alijon, Roberthalf, Accountemps, etc..., they are posting fake positions (jobs) online to attrack candidates for their databases. Time is of essence to all job seekers and our time shouldn't be wasted by an employer or agency. Try to avoid submitting your resume to agencies as this is how they get their leads such as a possible "prospective client" for their company. I recall providing an agency my references and come to find out a consultant or representative from the agency visited my prior job. All I can say is keep presevering to find that perfect JOB and be careful who you submit your personal information to.

anonymous in Ashaway, Rhode Island said: Robert Half does the same thing & are the WORST. I ignore all agency listings, no matter how good they sound - 99.9% of them are fake. Maybe one day all the agencies will shut down!

I certainly hope so; they all bite!

lol... isn't this whole site nothing but bogus joblisting

Long Time Employee, Outplaced in Fuquay Varina, North Carolina said: Got a real question for you about sending salary history. I have been told more than once that I was not considered for a position because they "could not meet my previous salay". Umm - if I was getting that before, why wouldn't I be worth it for the next job? That is, why can't a person between jobs get paid for what they're worth?

Salary history is just a way to weed out people other than "drones". They want folks who will basicly work for ANYTHING ! This is one screwed-up country... it will come back to haunt us in the form of societal breakdowns & crime. People will only take so much of this crap before they act-out their frustrations and give up on the so-called American "dream".

anonymous in Ashaway, Rhode Island said: Robert Half does the same thing & are the WORST. I ignore all agency listings, no matter how good they sound - 99.9% of them are fake. Maybe one day all the agencies will shut down!

Fake? I'm sorry agencies find companies qualified employees which in turn help people find jobs. EVERYONE that comes into an employment agencies DO NOT get placed on a job, nor are they entitled to. Staffing agencies are a resource for people not their mommys doing the work for them. Its called determination and that's exactly the kind of thing that we see in people which is probably why you didn't get a call back. You represent the staffing agency and they are in no way going to put someone out to a job if they don't see fit. And agencies work for the company so its not their fault you dont get the job. There are tons of people that register with an agency on a daily basis so sorry that there is a little competition out there...YOU ARENT THE ONLY ONE LOOKING FOR A JOB. And its funny that over 75% of Fortune 1000 companies only use agencies to staff their positions. So really you dont have a choice.

hawkins said: This as with most jobs that temp agencies post, is a fake job. They had a similar one posted a few weeks ago that I placed my resume for and called several times to follow up. They never returned my call. Hmmm....lets post a fake job so that we can get candidates into our database. Get a clue temp staffing agencies, we're onto your game!

Hmm? Did you ever think that maybe you weren't qualified. Did you want them to call you to let you know that you weren't qualified enough...I'm sure there's enough time in the day to call EVERYONE that submits their resume to a job to tell them they aren't qualified.
It's an agencies job the fill the position as quickly as possible with the most qualified person, not to see how many candidates they can call that has submitted their resume....GET A CLUE! Go get your own job them and quit complaining...nobody likes a complainer, especially businesses.

Just like a typical agency employee if I may say. Your statistics are inaccurate on agency usage by employers. In addition, majority of the candidates that turn to agencies for assistance to place them are qualified. However, salary and commission plays a part.

Jan in San Leandro, California said: I know for a fact that this position is real since I am one of the recruiters. The position is still open and we are still accepting resumes. We receive quite a few resumes everyday, and I wish we could reply to every single candidate who apply to each position but that would take us away from filling open positions. If you've applied for this position and feel that your qualifications and skills fit the job description, please send me your cover letter, salary history, and a word doc of your resume.

As a recruiter I look for the quality of each candidate, not quantity. We actually take the time to interview each qualified candidate, get to know them, and listen to to what is is they're looking for in their next position.

If this is a "real job" and you are in the business to place applicants into these "real" jobs then you need to be talking to these "real applicants" who are qualified but never get a call back to your "unreal postings". Temp agencies are on the same level as used car salesmen --- you have to have zero work ethics and zero empathy for people to work in such a business. You are not HR professionals; just bottom feeders.

Rachael Winfrey in Valley Forge, Pennsylvania said: I think in getting a job from any of these agencies depends on timing and how recent your skills are. I truly believe that if your over a certain age, you have to work extra harder in finding work because their resumes end up in the trash because their clients probably tell them not to send them anyone over a certain age...who's kidding who.

Here's a news flash for you --- if the recruiter doesn't like the way you part your hair, then your resume will go into the bottom drawer known as file "13" -- never to be seen again. Then the recruiter will tell the other staff members not to take calls from you because you didn't fit the "standards". The longer one stays or chases the temp agency fasle advertising the lower one's confidence and self-esteem will sink. I have seen this happen to two of my best friends. So, the bottom line is, stand tall and tie a knot in your rope and hold on --- accept temp agencies for what they are...unrealistic. Please stay real and focused on your goals ---- no one has the right to take them away from you.

>> TMP in Huntley, Illinois

>> Fake? I'm sorry agencies find companies qualified employees which in turn
>> help people find jobs. EVERYONE that comes into an employment agencies DO NOT
>> competition out there...YOU ARENT THE ONLY ONE LOOKING FOR A JOB. And its funny >> that over 75% of Fortune 1000 companies only use agencies to staff their
>> positions. So really you dont have a choice.

I don't believe you at all. You are so full of BS. I partially believe the person who wrote the "fake" comments.

When Aerotek places ads for "great" jobs and EVERY TIME they are "filled" within minutes of being posted, I don't believe them anymore. After you send your info to them for this very good sounding position (and it's already filled), then they call you a hundred times for crappy jobs that pay no more than McDonald's. So, again, you are full of crap.

Back the truck up here! First of all, have you ever ask yourself why there are so many temporary agencies to begin with? Could it be because large corporations have outsourced their administrative personnel to lower their overhead? Temporary agencies are getting richer by the minute off of outsourced extrememly skilled and experienced workers. What needs to be said is this: Why don't all the "temporary workers" who have their stories to tell --- file a class action suit or join forces to unite against the temporary agencies and their slippery slope fallcies. Power in numbers has always worked for centuries. Good luck to all of you fighting the temporary battle.

Good luck to all of you fighting the temporary battle.

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I've suggested this before, but here it goes again:

Many firms/companies are also building their own "temp" pools by advertising directly on their own websites or on Craigslist.

Market yourself directly and forget the headhunters.

I am sorry that they aren't waiting around for you to call. They have other people to take care of that arent crabbing about not getting a job. Go find a job on your own and stop relying on agencies if you have such a problem with it!

Exactly what I did. Took a job right out from under the agency's nose. That's why I suggested that people apply directly for temp as well as permanent jobs. It's also why lots of companies are putting together their own temp pools and advertising on Craigslist for their temp needs.

Saves time, money, aggravation, and most importantly dealing with nitwits.

FYI Nimwits. You didnt take a job from underneath the agencies nose. We are only there to be a resource for companies and candidates. In case you didnt know as well, agencies have tons of jobs internally so I'm sure you didnt cause any damage to the agency. I'm sure they are making out just fine. Please think outside the box, I'm sure your employer would want you too. Agencies are happy when candidates find permanent jobs on their own. THey arent out there to bring people down. Take some depression pills PLEASE!

Are you a licensed physician or pharmacist? If you aren't, you have no business diagnosing or recommending treatments.

By the way, the word it nitwits not nimwits. Although if you meant dimwits, that works as well.