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Anonymous in Colorado in Pleasanton, California

116 months ago

I work for one of these listed agencies and would like to point something out.
We run our business telling clients that we can fill positions with as little as a few hours notice (which we do, typically with candidates that are unemployed and ready to work with no notice). When an agency specializes in temporary and temporary to hire positions, how can you expect them to wait for 2 weeks notice? My advice if you are currently employed, focus on agencies that specialize in Direct hire placements or search for a new job on your own.
Generally speaking, candidates do not pay fees for this FREE service. When you register with an agency, you have people working on your behalf to find you a job AT NO COST to you besides the trip to the office to register. We work very hard day in and day out to place every qualified candidate that comes through our door and wish that we could.
Shame on you for expecting something that is not guaranteed to you. Staffing agencies are meant to be an additional resource in finding employment, not a one stop shop. If an agency doesn't have luck finding you a new opportunity, keep looking on your own.

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Small Town near Big Town in Fuquay Varina, North Carolina

115 months ago

Anonymous in Colorado said: I work for one of these listed agencies and would like to point something out.
We run our business telling clients that we can fill positions with as little as a few hours notice (which we do, typically with candidates that are unemployed and ready to work with no notice). When an agency specializes in temporary and temporary to hire positions, how can you expect them to wait for 2 weeks notice? Generally speaking, candidates do not pay fees for this FREE service. When you register with an agency, you have people working on your behalf to find you a job AT NO COST to you besides the trip to the office to register.

Shame on you for expecting something that is not guaranteed to you. Staffing agencies are meant to be an additional resource in finding employment, not a one stop shop. If an agency doesn't have luck finding you a new opportunity, keep looking on your own.

Let's make one thing perfectly clear here - anybody in their right mind will not register with just one agency just to jump at the rare chance of taking a TEMP position on 2 hours notice that may become permanent. And as for FREE - you don't pay for my gas, 3-4 hours for the interview/testing time, the 2 hours for any drug testing, dry cleaning, or especially for my cell phone, just in case you honor me with a call back. BOTTOM LINE: To register with one agency, may take up to 6 hours. My time is valuable, too. Do this with about 10 agencies, and the time adds up.

As a potential permanent employee, you have every right to register/apply wherever, and if you are confirming 3 or 4 jobs, you have every right to tell potential employers, you can start on a certain day. This is usual practice in most companies. If they are so desperate for someone that quickly- permanently - my experience is that this work area has issues.
I'm not expecting a guarantee, however, I do expect and deserve respect.

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ashloid in Tampa, Florida

115 months ago

tell someone who cares.

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ashloid in Tampa, Florida

115 months ago

Get counseling, um? How about you do your job and stop wasting company time on websites like this? Gese - prime example of employees at recruitment agencies wasting work hours when they should be doing their job - get counseling, huh? How about you get a life.

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ashloid in Tampa, Florida

115 months ago

hahaha..right! And you call me a loser..haha. Um..Yep..ah sure... hahaha.. you need help.

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Small Town near Big Town in Fuquay Varina, North Carolina

115 months ago

Karen - you misunderstood - I was supporting you and telling Ash... she was being rude. Not you. Look at my response, it starts with her comment: ashloid said "tell ..." - it was back at her, not you. With such a name so close to hemorrhoid, can you imagine where she's a pain?

Take a breath. I'm supporting that you started a good discussion and she should go elsewhere. That's all.

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ATL in Lilburn, Georgia

115 months ago

Anonymous in Colorado said: I work for one of these listed agencies and would like to point something out.
We run our business telling clients that we can fill positions with as little as a few hours notice (which we do, typically with candidates that are unemployed and ready to work with no notice). When an agency specializes in temporary and temporary to hire positions, how can you expect them to wait for 2 weeks notice? My advice if you are currently employed, focus on agencies that specialize in Direct hire placements or search for a new job on your own.
Generally speaking, candidates do not pay fees for this FREE service. When you register with an agency, you have people working on your behalf to find you a job AT NO COST to you besides the trip to the office to register. We work very hard day in and day out to place every qualified candidate that comes through our door and wish that we could.
Shame on you for expecting something that is not guaranteed to you. Staffing agencies are meant to be an additional resource in finding employment, not a one stop shop. If an agency doesn't have luck finding you a new opportunity, keep looking on your own.
Staffing agencies do NOT offer a FREE service. You are being paid for your time and it IS your JOB to find someone a job that signs up. You are being paid by the company that you bill for your service. What a crock of s*** that you are providing a FREE service. I have my resume posted online and have "temp" agencies calling me to get me placed, only to WASTE my TIME going in to the office to find out there really is NO job and they just want to LOOK like they are staffed and ready to fill positions. LIES ALL THE WAY AROUND, from the people you have come in to "apply" to the companies you "say" you are finding workers for. TOTAL WASTE OF TIME TO GO TO ANY EMPLOYMENT AGENCIES. They are only about making a quick buck off YOU!!!

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Looking for Real Solution in Fuquay Varina, North Carolina

115 months ago

We know, sort of, who to avoid.

Let's try another direction. Can anybody share some GOOD recruiting companies?

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justink in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan

115 months ago

Looking for Real Solution said: One thing I really don't like at all is being required to leave a photocopy or give your social security number, driver's license number, references, etc. BEFORE there is an actual job to pursue. I've been told that I won't be considered if I don't fill out 1099's, etc. This info could be provided after the client states that the candidate looks good from their resume and interview with recruiter. I don't like having this info floating around in their offices. This day/time, you don't know who their employees are. I have seen too many employee turnarounds in these offices AND info left on their desks - in clear view of other candidates. I don't believe my info is that secure. They may not see a problem, but, clearing up one identity theft can cost $100's and many, many months.

As soon as I saw this I had to respond. Never, I repeat NEVER give an agency any of this information unless you are starting a job with a set start date. They can not make you provide this information before a valid offer of employment, and if they do it is illegal for them. This is MAJOR EEO violations because all that information can be used as an illegal way for them not to hire you. I REPEAT, NEVER GIVE OUT ANY OF THIS INFO WITHOUT A VALID JOB OFFER!

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Looking for Real Solution in Fuquay Varina, North Carolina

115 months ago

Justin - Thank you for your answers. You'd think that after working 25 yrs I'd have a bit more sense. Maybe just too trusting.

How do you answer a demand like this? I have not provided my SS# or DL# to one of these agencies. They called me to come register with them. I saw, printout was on desk in plain view, who they were reviewing me for. I company that I would NEVER work with.

How can this be an illegal way NOT to hire you?

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Looking for Real Solution in Fuquay Varina, North Carolina

115 months ago

Can I go to agency and tell them give back my application, etc? I did get this back from an agency while I was still there - told them I needed to make correction and walked. But this agency has had it over a week. They said they can't keep my 1099 long in their office.

Also, can recuiter send copy of your resume to client without asking you first? I've had this happen both ways - with and without my permission.

Thanks again. You're the first recruiter in the last 3 weeks that has given me some "positive" and informative feedback that is invaluable.

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Looking for Real Solutions in Fuquay Varina, North Carolina

115 months ago

Hi Justin - you got me thinking - again.

Also, with same agency, they wanted me to sign off on some paperwork about low income something. I think it had to do with Work From Welfare program. I was told if they placed people who are working to get off welfare, they get a tax break. Yep - this is the same company that wanted to copy my social security and driver's license. In fact, there were 3 app's with - social security cards attached in plain view - even for a quick camera shot with a cell phone. They said that I was a good candidate for one position. I know they've contacted 2 of my references.
Can they forward my resume to a client without asking me first? I saw a sheet with my name and name of a company that I NEVER would work with.
You'd think after 15 years I'd know these answers. But some temp agencies work differently. I expect peole to be more honest than they are.
Last - this is a franchise agency. Is that what all agencies are? Thanks so much again.

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justink in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan

115 months ago

First for the legality of this information. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits the discrimination on the basis of several different factors (race, ethnicity, national origin just to name a few). The ADEA (Age Discrimination in Employment Act) also covers individuals 40 and over from being discriminated against. As a rule, companies should never ask for your drivers license because it shows your age and also race. Can be obtained after job offer is made for I-9 purposes. SS Card should NEVER be asked for before a job offer is made. This is also for the I-9 and lets a company know you are eligible to work in the US. This should NEVER be obtained prior to employment. There have been numerous changes to the SS laws recently that state when people can ask for SS#.

For your second question, unfortunately recruiters can send your resume wherever they want. This is highly unethical but I see it happen all the time. If this is a concern, you should make sure that the company specifically states that they will contact you before submitting you anywhere. Alot of the larger staffing firms are bad at this, and it is hard for the ones that actually contact the person before hand. I can't tell you how many times I've called someone to submit them, they tell me they haven't been contacted by a recruiter, and submit them only to find someone already sent them there. Very unethical if you ask me.

If I missed something, feel free to ask any other questions you have.

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justink in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan

115 months ago

Yes it is correct that companies that hire low income families receive a tax break. Its a government program to help people on welfare receive work. It gives an incentive to employers.

As for the SS#'s your example is a perfect example of why there has been so much SS card reform lately in the law. People are becoming to lax in regards to keeping your information private. Read my previous post about the other SS stuff.

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justink in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan

115 months ago

Oh for the agency part, no not all staffing companies are franchises. There are many smaller family owned companies. That is what I work for, it is myself, a marketer and 2 other recruiters.

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Looking for Real Solutions in Fuquay Varina, North Carolina

115 months ago

JustinK said: First for the legality of this information. ... I can't tell you how many times I've called someone to submit them, they tell me they haven't been contacted by a recruiter, and submit them only to find someone already sent them there. Very unethical.

Justin - Please forgive me for cutting some of your quote, just trying to continue stream.
I can't tell you how much I appreciate your answers. For a change, someone who gives the straight, cut to the chase answers.
I understand about the age thing, over 40, either too experienced to pay or too old to train. I was even told by a recruiter at a job fair to put in my resume, over 20 yrs, and not 25 years experience, just for this fact. The funny thing is, I've been told repeatedly, I don't look or sound my age at all. I have actually gone for interviews and recruiter would approach someone older, not realizing I was the 40 something inte.
Why in the world does a good company not want someone energetic and experienced to work for them? Don't they want someone professional that will be a credibility to them? I just don't get that part. Also, I don't have the mommy thing to worry about. I know that "do you have kids?" is an illegal question. Just getting frustrated that I want to work, I am an excellent employee, and willing to learn quickly.
PS: Got any suggestions for temp agencies here? OR how to get the attention of "REAL" prospective employers? I was at F500 company almost 20 years and laid off. Told I was "too qualified for" my current position. Yeah - I got caught in that age bracket, not young enough for lower salary and not close enough to retirement to force the "age discrimination" card or leave by attrition. Quite a few of the "older employees kept" had awful dispositions and attendance records. Me and quite a few of my co-workers had "exceeds" reviews.
Unemployment in Raleigh area is low. However, the higher paying jobs are in RTP (too far)-been there, done that.

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justink in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan

115 months ago

Looking for real solutions, to answer your questions age should not be a consideration when looking at people for a job. I was just pointing out that it is illegal for companies to ask age or questions that reveal your age in a round about fashion (aka high school graduation date). Unfortunately I do not know of any staffing companies in your area besides the larger ones so many people have problems with. My only advice to that is to try and find a smaller company to work with. Do a quick google search on staffing agencies in your area.

Hope that helps.

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justink in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan

115 months ago

Finally, A Real Job At Home ! said:
Many excellent work-at-home opportunities are available. you can start your own business and enjoy the many benefits it provides.
Register Online Now.
www.geocities.com/jobshome12
Thank You.

People, please do not fall for this stuff. Most of them are scams that require money up front or something.

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Small Town near Big Town in Fuquay Varina, North Carolina

115 months ago

Finally, A Real Job At Home ! said:
Many excellent work-at-home opportunities are available. you can start your own business and enjoy the many benefits it provides.
Register Online Now.
www.geocities.com/jobshome12
Thank You.

If you are really lonely and need a bunch of junk e-mail, sign up with these folks and you'll get "offers" galore. Like Justin said, alot of them "business opportunities" - yes, for them, not you.

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Jake in Elyria, Ohio

115 months ago

Boy everyone has me scared now about identity theft by leaving a drivers license number and/or social security number on a job application.

I have encountered this while walking into manufacturing companies to fill out a job application.

I also did this with a staffing place in North Olmsted, Ohio, called Champion Staffing. I never did get a call for any type of work.

How does one know for sure if someone has tampered with their identity information?

I am also skeptical in giving out my personal information for a credit report.

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anonymous in Knoxville, Tennessee

115 months ago

Credit reports are also to see how "valuable" you are. That is screwed up. I was laid off and then was pregnant and could not get insurance. I have morals and ethis, but my credit is horrible!!! To them, I am not a vaulable employee, I guess (despite my college and other prof certifications). What a joke

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jerigurka in Houston, Texas

115 months ago

stargazer said: I've been an Office Team client since the end of September. Here it is January and I have yet to be given a temp assignment from them. Every time I call them, they send me to the same person's voicemail to leave a message and they NEVER call back. On top of that, they thwart me for showing interest in particular jobs they have posted on their site. I'm so disappointed in this company.
Same treatment here in Texas Robert Half Company is the Corporate office for them ,Direct your complaints there if no luck there try Better Business Bureau.

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Jeri Gurka in Houston, Texas

115 months ago

Rod said: The testing scores does not matter. I've been with OfficeTeam for a very long time ( more than 3 years) and not ONCE have I been hired. I do Data Entry .... at the time I took the Data Entry test, they told me my scores was unlike anything they ever seen and was kinda shock ( I keyed over 15,000 keystrokes an hr.) The job was requiring like 10,000 keystrokes with a pay rate of 13 dollars an hour. They told me later that the job was filled and that they will continue to marked me available for future assignments/jobs. It's all b/s. These agent are simply building up their database by getting you registered under them and polishing up their database as a potential candidate for reputable companies that will hire THEM by seeing their impressive work of database of people like YOU and I. Pissed ? Yeah, be pissed.
Meanwhile, Im involved with suing one of the agency as we speak. I'll update on the outcome. Good luck to you all, though.

Class action suits work real well

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Jeri Gurka in Houston, Texas

115 months ago

ashloid said: Get counseling, um? How about you do your job and stop wasting company time on websites like this? Gese - prime example of employees at recruitment agencies wasting work hours when they should be doing their job - get counseling, huh? How about you get a life.
you better look in the mirror when you say that!!!!

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Ugh in Grand Rapids, MI in Allendale, Michigan

112 months ago

Pdumms in Fenton, Michigan said: I cannot agree that all temp agencies are bad. After looking for a job for over two months after losing one I stopped at an agency. I was tested and they called me in 3 days for work and I've been working ever since

What temp agency was this if you don't mind me asking, I have been here since Nov. and am beyond desperate for a job and have had the worst luck. Thank You

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Elizabeth in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

110 months ago

Generally speaking, candidates do not pay fees for this FREE service. When you register with an agency, you have people working on your behalf to find you a job AT NO COST to you besides the trip to the office to register.
If by "Free" you mean that no money is exchanced for your service, well that's a gross mis-representation. Does the candidate open their wallet to be represented? In a sense, yes they do. Agencies negotiate hourly rates and salaries on behalf of their clients, not their candidates. I know this because I work in HR and deal with recruiting agencies on a regular basis. Recruiting Agency X is representing candidate, calls us, we like the candidate and the cards are now on the table. How much a candidate will take home hourly depends entirely on relevant experience. If Recruiting Agency X tells the candidate their compensation will be $19.00 per hour, you can rest assured Recruiting Agency X will be charging us about $36.00 per hour. That's almost 100% profit for the agency. Same goes for salary. Say Recruiting Agency X is representing a receptionist candidate, and she says her low is $35,000., because that was her salary at her former employer. Recruiting Agency X will initially tell the candidate OK, then come back and say "Oh, the client isn't willing to go that high" or "The market is in the low 20's for these types of positions" or insert any sort excuse the agency wishes to come up with. That's because the agency cannot ask for $35,000. for the candidate if they are going to charge the client $8000. to place the candidate. So really, the service is not "Free" to either the client or the candidate. The candidate will get "Lowballed" by several thousand dollars to make up for the placement fee the agency is charging. Sure, they are in business to make money, but it certainly isn't "Free" by any stretch of the imagination.

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Ann in Grafton, Massachusetts

110 months ago

Elizabeth in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: Generally speaking, candidates do not pay fees for this FREE service. When you register with an agency, you have people working on your behalf to find you a job AT NO COST to you besides the trip to the office to register.

I work at at small staffing firm in MA. I've been in the business for over 25 years. Any company that is charging 100% markup is not the firm you want to be with.

However, there is what is called the payroll burden. This inc
ludes FICA, Federal taxes, Workers Comp, and any other taxes. The cost can be anywhere from 30-35%. So,if we pay someone $20.00 per hour, it is costing us roughly 26.00 to put them on the payroll. If we charge a 50% mu, we are billing 30.00 per hour. The 4.00 per hour has to cover all the overhead and profit. You have to do a large volume of business to make a lot of money, unless you are with an agency that places high level IT or Legal professionals.

I agree with the majority of comments I've read where people have been treated poorly. It's definitely out there. For professional recruiters who are ethical, who treat the candidates as customers, and who build and maintain relationships, the "bad" guys are giving the whole industry a bad reputation. Look for small, local firms, that have been in business a while. They tend to have much better reputations.

Good Luck

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Elizabeth in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

110 months ago

Ann: Thank you so much for the well thought out, and nicely written response. The beginning of my post was a quote from the original thread on Page 1; I hope this does not cause confusion for readers.

You are correct in your hypothesis that my industry is in the legal profession, hence the higher rates. My supervisor has developed an exclusive relationship with 2 small, independent agencies and will not explore other options. This is quite a drawback, as their talent pool can be rather shallow. Epanding to include other agencies would allow us a wider range of talent to choose from. It is unfortunate for the firm that there are more qualified candidates out there, but we rarely see them due to the previously established relationship with said agencies.

Part of my responsibities include processing the paperwork for temps/new hires, and I do see the numbers. What we are charged does seem a bit much.

Please allow me to say I do have sincere, and genuine empathy for what it takes to land a job in this economy. My personal experience included signing up with no less than 3 dozen agencies, who all promised me the moon but ultimately did not deliver. It wasn't until I landed at 1 of the 2 agencies that my firm uses that my luck turned around. So it's a bit of a catch 22 in that while I'm grateful to be employed, it almost doesn't seem completely above board.

Hope this post will shed a little light on how things can sometimes work. Best of luck, and Godspeed to everyone out there looking for employment. Always remember that you are worthy of being treated with respect, and eserve a living wage.

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michelle in Los Angeles, California

110 months ago

Pdumms in Fenton, Michigan said: I cannot agree that all temp agencies are bad. After looking for a job for over two months after losing one I stopped at an agency. I was tested and they called me in 3 days for work and I've been working ever since

If the agency was so great why not post it so more of those who are serious about working can get work.

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Shame on you too! in Orlando, Florida

109 months ago

You get paid very HEFTY hourly commissions for the little time you spend with prospective employees. I have seen what the agencies get paid (on a bill in the company's files) and what the staffing agency gets paid is criminal. You pay your employees precious little and rake in substantial profits for placing them. When the assignment is over and they aren't racking up commission dollars for you, you discard them like yesterday's newspaper!!!!

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Ann in Grafton, Massachusetts

109 months ago

I disagree about discarding employees when they finished their assignments. I have people that have been working for me for over 2 years. It is in both of our interests to keep them working until they find something permanent.

In regards to to what we pay and bill, it's not as much as you think. At least not where I work. Say for example we pay someone 10.00 per hour. The cost of payroll taxes, workers comp, and benefits amount to about 30%. That's 3.00 making the total to put the person out to work $13.00. If we bill $15.00, that 2.00 difference has to pay for the staff salaries, office overhead (rent, utilities, etc.)

I agree that there are some firms out there that only care about the bottom line and treat people badly. Keep looking. There are small, private firms, like where I am, that really care. Ask any of my employees.

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SouthernPAer in Chester, PA in Springfield, Pennsylvania

109 months ago

Sherry in Denver, Colorado said: I have to agree that almost every temp agency is what I would call very un-effiecient. As a potential employee you go in to their office & jump through all the hoops they want you to then you never hear a word from them. Like I have read & heard, many times the agencies are advertising for positions that really don't exist so they can build up the applicant pool. I don't understand this concept when there are sooo many people already signed up with these companies & they will not call the people who are already registered with them. It really is cruel to do this to people who really need a job.

I totally agree with you, Sherry...it is cruel. Why waste our time with a lengthy registration & testing process?

Whenever I would register with an agency, I'd call them every week to let them know I was available. I'd ask what jobs they had. And somehow, every week, it's "well, we really don't have anything right now...it's kind of slow."

I feel like asking them, "if you never have anything, then how are you getting that all-important commission for placing people and how is the agency staying afloat?" It makes no sense.

Another thing that frustrates me is the lies about the length of assignments. I had a temp job that lasted nearly a full year. In the temp world, I call that long term...not to mention rare. But when a recruiter says a job is long term, and it turns out to be 1 month for example, they're crazy! Unless of course, all their other jobs are of the 1 and 2 day kind.

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MWasovsky in Kharkov, Ukraine

55 months ago

There are so many recruitment agencies on the market that it is very easy to deal with unfair business. If you want to avoid many problems, it is better to check every agency with web sites like this one www.pissedconsumer.com/consumer-reviews/employment-agencies.html. Have a good luck

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Disappointed in Lithonia, Georgia

30 months ago

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Well stated! Most of the opportunities they post never existed..What else would the do if they didn't have interviews to fill their day? It's job security for these recruiters

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jimmysmithy in Springville, Utah

4 months ago

Looking for Real Solution in Fuquay Varina, North Carolina said: We know, sort of, who to avoid.

Let's try another direction. Can anybody share some GOOD recruiting companies?

There are good companies out there you just need to do your research. The most important thing to avoid is companies that are charging you directly. You also want to find a company with a vast number of contacts and large networking; their biggest help to you is knowing who to have you work for and what companies can use your services.
professionalrecruiterinc.com

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