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Bar Employer in Cincinnati, Ohio

73 months ago

I hate to be the one to say it guys, but bartenders have a shelf life, just like popular drinks. i will sat that i have found men tend to have a much longer shelf life than women, but 20 something women don't want to flirt with their dads and bartenders can be one of the biggest factors in a night out.

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Oscar in Miami Beach, Florida

72 months ago

Happy birday Charly...
And Thanks, I start to feel in company now. I dont know in the North,but here, in the sunshine state, if you have more than the legal age to drink an couples of real gooooood melons, we are out of business

Charlie in New Port Richey, Florida said: I have tended bar all my life. Beginning at 21 in Atlanta GA I have been bartending up till about 6 years ago when I embarked on a career appraising and inspecting residential housing. Needless to say, with the economy the way it is I am in need of additional income. For the first time in my life I am bein denied employment. They don't give you any reason, they just don't call back. I recently turned 50 but I have managed to stay in good shape. Is my age really keeping from getting behind the bar? Have any of you had similar experiences?

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bar bill in Cincinnati, Ohio

70 months ago

....at 53 years young, i am still tending bar. it's a known fact that we as bartenders will move around to the next 'big' venue. i have finally found 'home'. i.e. benefits with a large corporation.
the economy is killing my business, but i stay and will weather the storm.
i prefer to see an older gentleman behind the bar when i am out. i know i am probably getting experience and will get the proper attention. i use suggestive selling for my signature martinis and expect the same when i go out. a young busty blonde is nice to look at, but does not usually have the brains or experience to carry a decent conversation. after all, we are therapists also.

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collran in Johnstown, Colorado

69 months ago

I am in a very similar situation, but I'm only in my mid 30's and facing the same thing. I believe age does play a factor especially in the college towns, which I live near. I have been told twice that they are wanting someone younger even at non college type places. The worst though for me is the ever increasing trend of bars with only female tenders. Not only do I see ads around here for flat out asking for females only, but have also been told when applying that they were looking for women. I have no problem with women tending and studies have shown that they bring in more money for the bar, but I've gone back these places to find their new hire has less than half my experience, extremely frustrating.

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Oscar in Miami Beach, Florida

69 months ago

I don`t know if the "studies" of reference show also the extremely hig rotation level in the female tenders... or the fact than in the industry, the baby boomers are not the most of the patrons, but the higest spending customers, and demand a kind of service only experience can ofert.
Not only the economy is killing the busines;
the tobaco law
the "standarization" in the tax level or licencing
the "industrialization"of the mixers
Are you in the last 3 years drinked a screwdriver with FRESH orange juice, maked by yourselft with the real orange?
how many times are you blended a real pices of pineapple and coconut with rum?
for how long you don`t see any body adding to the tomato juice the bitters, limes, salt and pepper,vodka and celery in front of you?
If I need to go tho a fast drink bar, I drink Chill Vodka, or alcohol straig to the bottle... or a meeting of the A.A.A. I go to the bar because I whant cuality and service I don`T have any were else.

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shew in Newark, Ohio

69 months ago

It is about age!!!! my boss is two years younger than I am and he is trying to replace me with younger less experinced "bartenders" that no less I have to train... and to top it off 3yrs ago I was one of the top 40 bartenders in Ohio now I'm just.....well you know
And I'm only 30!!!

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anon in Denver, Colorado

68 months ago

hmm. interesting. i work in a bar that prefers to hire older bartenders. the older and grittier the better. the only way i have been able to keep my job is by making myself indispensable. They were desperate for help when i was hired.

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Oscar in Miami Beach, Florida

68 months ago

anon in Denver, Colorado said: hmm. interesting. i work in a bar that prefers to hire older bartenders. the older and grittier the better. the only way i have been able to keep my job is by making myself indispensable. They were desperate for help when i was hired.

Are they hired yet???!!!

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gerader schoolldagotts in Crystal River, Florida

68 months ago

Boy, Talk about taking the wind out of your sails! I knew that my age might not help me but it doesn't sound like I have a chance out there. I'm 56 years old with a good personality and sense of humor. I'm not in the best shape but I thought I could keep up easily enough.

maybe I'm fantasizing...Ya think ?

I will take just about any kind of bar tending job after I finish the Bartender school.

I could really use the help here !

Thanks,
Jerry

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edward seitz in Alexandria, Virginia

67 months ago

Yes, Bartenders get too old. I have been tending bar in Washington, DC for 30 years and am having an extremely difficult time finding work. It's not just the economy. Owners want young and buff. Whether they know what they are doing is often immaterial. I've been working daytime for the past 17 years. I find that I lack the patience and desire to deal with the 20 somethings. But somenody pretty much has to die to get a good day-time gig. There is very little turnover. I've been an up-scale saloon guy most of my career but now I find myself applying corporate. The time have changed.

Incidentally, to the youngsters trying to break in, it is almost always a bad idea to tell a prospective employer that you went to bartending school. They are almost all a rip-off. A monkey can make drinks. 80% of bartending is knowing how to deal with people. Oh, and you'd better have your cash drawer straight.

Good luck to all.

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edward seitz in Alexandria, Virginia

67 months ago

Yes, Bartenders get too old. I have been tending bar in Washington, DC for 30 years and am having an extremely difficult time finding work. It's not just the economy. Owners want young and buff. Whether they know what they are doing is often immaterial. I've been working daytime for the past 17 years. I find that I'v grown to lack the patience and desire to deal with the 20 somethings. But somebody pretty much has to die to get a good day-time gig. There is very little turnover. I've been an up-scale saloon guy most of my career but now I find myself applying corporate. The times have changed.

Incidentally, to the youngsters trying to break in, it is almost always a bad idea to tell a prospective employer that you went to bartending school. They are almost all a rip-off. A monkey can make drinks. 80% of bartending is knowing how to deal with people. Oh, and you'd better have your cash drawer straight.

Good luck to all.

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SRQ Willie in Sarasota, Florida

67 months ago

I have no idea how I got to this site.... Been there fella's. Used to tend bar at a local place, and a good customer always asked why I was still bartending with the great attitude and sales ability that all good bartenders should have. He always told me that I should get into sales of some sort on the "outside" world. Of course I always said that I could never sell anything to anyone. Of course you know what his response was...."you sell yourself every day and its easy"
Needless to say he pointed me in the right direction, got a little free training (easy to get) and I have been making 6figures ever since. Pretty crazy since I thought at the time that I would NEVER do anything other than bartend, let alone sales. But aren't we all in sales??? Of course. Certainly not trying to sway anyone, but if you want some of the great advice that I got, e-mail me. I was in the same boat as all of you.....sorry about the rant. Jeff kjmm2@comcast.net

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WD Lance in Hattiesburg, Mississippi

67 months ago

On the contrary, I have worked with some strong female bartenders. Mostly the ones I've trained, lol. The best ones I've seen are those who've put in their time as cocktail servers. I myself started in the industry as a bouncer/barback. This gives one a strong understanding of the business and also allows oneself to build a customer base before you become a bartender.

Let me finish with this obvious reality check: Females hate other females, males most of the time do not have this problem. Females are self-conscious, males not as much. My point being, males can attract both the female and male customer base. It's a fact, we get along with our own gender as well as the other.

As far as the age factor goes, don't let it get you down. I live close to New Orleans, LA and have seen many bartenders working at the same place for 20 plus years. The Omni Hotel(very prestigious) has SEVERAL guys there who have been there for 40 plus. Forget the college bars, find somewhere that you are appreciated by customers for being their server when they expect you to be there. They know you will take care of them in the same fashion day in and day out.

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Cool Water in Biloxi, Mississippi

67 months ago

Listen , listen good.
I have been in the mixing drink business for way to lomg to not know the older you are the lower the scale bar you tend. So if you still want to ten bar at the young age of fifty something set your highs on a low scale bar like the ones need truck stops, wrong side of town, red light areas.
Best of luck guys.
PS: owning a bar is 24/7 work 365...can you hang with that?

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griffin384@comcast.net in Elgin, Illinois

63 months ago

SRQ Willie in Sarasota, Florida said: I have no idea how I got to this site.... Been there fella's. Used to tend bar at a local place, and a good customer always asked why I was still bartending with the great attitude and sales ability that all good bartenders should have. He always told me that I should get into sales of some sort on the "outside" world. Of course I always said that I could never sell anything to anyone. Of course you know what his response was...."you sell yourself every day and its easy"
Needless to say he pointed me in the right direction, got a little free training (easy to get) and I have been making 6figures ever since. Pretty crazy since I thought at the time that I would NEVER do anything other than bartend, let alone sales. But aren't we all in sales??? Of course. Certainly not trying to sway anyone, but if you want some of the great advice that I got, e-mail me. I was in the same boat as all of you.....sorry about the rant. Jeff kjmm2@comcast.net

ok, what exactly is it you do..ie sell?

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griffin384@comcast.net in Elgin, Illinois

63 months ago

Please tell me what you sell, or do for a living I feel like you left us hanging. And I am glad I read this site before I signed up for bartending school I figured I was too old.

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gerader schoolldagotts in Crystal River, Florida

62 months ago

Hey thanks for the boost !!! I also run into bartenders that are retirement age and enjoy them as much or more than younger ones.

I think my question a while back re: age was silly cuz of course there are older bartenders.

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Woody in Gilbert, Arizona

62 months ago

I have tended bar in Reno, NV. casinos, small clubs, night clubs in So. Cal. in the 80's. ( 21yrs total ). I am now 50 and stopped working 8yrs ago. But yes, the job is not a profession any more. I know what it was like being around my father and his friends all started working in the 50's. It a shame I really liked being a professional bartender.

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Deborah

61 months ago

I have been in the food& bev industry for 28 yrs.I have cocktailed,tended bar,managed,taught bartenders,managed bqt.bars,and co-ordinated special events bars.I think older bartenders are far superior to the younger tenders.I have recently moved to south carolina and cannot believe,not only the ridiculous low wages but the blatant age discrimination.I am a smart,funny attractive (50)who not only has a great knowledge and experience behind the bar,knowledge of wine and food pairing,but also know how to draw people in,have them stay and order dinner,remember their names when they come back in and what we had talked about when they were last in.I strongly disagree w/Lance about females.If you are good about reading people you have no problem attracting male & female cust.I have become soo frustrated w/the job market out there now.I am being interviewed by 23 yr olds who have no idea how to hire a good bartender or how much a good bartender can make your business.I have some pretty funny stories I'll post later.

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Londontwo in Shawnee, Kansas

61 months ago

I can relate to you, being in that same boat here in Kansas City. In fact when I started reading your comment, I thought I was writing it. I guess our "boat has sailed" and we just have to turn it over to a young crew. I have applied for for oh so many jobs. Some do respond, but as you say, the wages are terrible and all they want is parttime help. One even told me they only wanted someone to fill in when the other bartenders wanted time off, or had tests or homework. I've applied at hotels, motels, private clubs, corp. establishments, and neighborhood bars. Seems like the minute you say you have 30 yrs. experience, a red flag goes up. They want experience, but they don't want to much. I think they're afraid we may want to change things, but I don't. I JUST WANT A JOB!!

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Deborah

61 months ago

I know what you mean.I have had some of the most absurd interviews here in Myrtle Beach.I applied with the Marriot(who I have worked for)was in the hr office filling out an app.for the asst f& b manager who was about 23.This young girl in a jean mini skirt,halter top,flip-flops w/wet hair came in.she had to ask me what day it was while filling out her app.He took her back in his office before she was even finished and then turned around and told me the job was filled.I applied at LeGrands went in and this cocky guy named James was in charge of the interviews,he was rude to everyone.In the middle of my telling him my work exp.he interrupts me and tells me he can look into peoples eyes and tell what kind of people they are.WTH.I had found a nice upscale Italian rest,helped open it ,built up a nice clientele,stuck it out through the slow times and then the owner brought in this albanian guy who was so disrespectful to women.I had never discussed my age,most people assume I'm younger,but he took my personal info and told eveyone including customers.He constantly made snide remarks about my age.I'm looking at him thinking I might be the oldest one here,but I work the hardest,come to work on time ready to work,neatly dressed,professional,not like the rest of your crew who are younger but late,hungover,and look like they just picked their clothes up off the floor and put them back on.I think the days of a professional bartender are almost gone.I enjoy being a bartender and I am damm good at it.Some of these places in Myrtle Beach want to pay 2.13 an hr.4.99hr,unbelievable,that's why they hire kids.It appears that youth trumps experience,knowledge and people skills.

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jackpotj in Leonardo, New Jersey

61 months ago

All trends fade away. Right now the trend is dumb,fake,and plastic. Its everywhere. You cant even watch the news without seeing breasts hanging out,or some model looking blowhard faking a deep voice to make himself look like a man.It is getting old,and disgusting. I myself have had enough of how shallow our society has become,and I am quite confident so have most Americans. There is a change on the horizon and it will start at the local watering holes all over this country. Bars and nightclubs are going out of business everyday. People want to go to their local hangouts and forget about their everyday problems ie.. divorce,job loss,paycuts,the bills they cant afford to pay this month and every other stressful situation we as a modern American face in our fight to succeed. We want to go out and feel comfortable,feel like that Bartender behind the bar is a friend and in some way a confidant. Not someone who makes you feel inferior,less attractive,and old. Bring back the neighborhood hangouts and send the metrosexuals and Girls Gone Wild back to the clubs and strip joints.

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Deborah

61 months ago

So who is to blame?The business owners or the public?

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Londontwo in Shawnee, Kansas

61 months ago

I guess all we can do is complain about it. Unless bar owners are reading these comments, we're sunk. Seems like most of the upscale places have you apply on-line. I think when I put down 30yrs experience, a red flag goes up. They figure I'm either too old or want a decent wage!! Since when do you need a college degree to be a bar manager? I never did in the past. Doesn't experience count for anything? I have a hard time beleiving that some of these kids I'm dealing with have college degrees and the experience (that's in the corp.) The neighborhood bars want the fluff and buff. Without having a "degree", I have owned my own delis, been a bar manager, been a food/beverage manager, and a bartender for 30 years and never been out of a job unless I choose to be, until now. DAMN THE ECONOMY!!! I guess because for the past 16 yrs I had a stable bartending job, I didn't realize what was going on in the "real world." Well, I'll just keep applying, maybe somebody wants an old waitress. Myabe I'll get some tattoos, piercings and start wearing low cut shirts and tight jeans. I think not!!

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Londontwo in Shawnee, Kansas

61 months ago

To all the experienced bartenders out of work...

I came across this ad. "looking for...ladies...(Bartenders, Servers, Body Shot Models).....forward resume, photo and why you think you would be a good fit." Because of the way their ad read, I was discussed and emailed them with "too bad your not looking for experienced bartenders". Guess what, they answered me! But they wanted to know why I thought they weren't looking for "experienced bartenders" I emailed them back with "the way your ad read". By the way, this was not a gentlemen's club, it's just a neighborhood bar. Good luck to all us bartenders who aren't fluffy or buffy anymore, but know the bartending business!!

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Deborah in Myrtle Beach

61 months ago

I think we should all get together and march on Washington.LOL No seriously I think part of the problem lies in the age of the bar managers.I think the companies hire them so young anymore so they don't have to pay them much.They usually burn them out in about six months.These young managers are intimidated by people with more experience and usually hire young tenders who they can play the big manager role or the lets party later wink,wink.If they were smarter they would realize you are only as strong as the people you surround yourself with,plus with us we show up to work ON TIME,are professional, know how to give good service and take pride in what we do.I personally have decided to start going to the top and asking questions,I have nothing to lose.So please don't say the older you are the lower scale bar you tend,or yes bartenders get too old,no I don't want to work in a fast paced,music banging nightclub like I did in my 20's but fit into a nice hotel bar or restaurant bar where people like good conversation and someone who knows how to fix a good cocktail,plus make them feel comfortable and cared for.I used to have a strong couples base because I always made the woman comfortable first,always finding something to compliment,her hair,jewelery etc.and when mama's happy everybody's happy.My first bartending job was in a upscale hotel bar with floor shows(remember those) and the man who trained me was in his 50's.He was tough on me(made me cry a few times)but he gave me a good strong base and we became good friends because I wanted to learn and I respected him.I see and have trained so many of the young tenders who have such a bad,lazy attitude they take no pride in how their bar looks,and think that people should automaticaly tip them cause they set a drink in front of them.A good bartender makes people want to tip them.I would like to hear some of your first bar worked in stories.Gotta go watch some football.

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Deborah

61 months ago

why is my last comments not showing up on the site but coming on my e-mail

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Geeg in Lisle, Illinois

61 months ago

I have to say this is all so sad to read. I have been trying to help my dad get work as a bartender for a long time now. He worked in the car industry that has tanked so he does a bartending experience. He decided to make it his career now. Well I cant believe how hard it is to find work for him. It is so sad that this is how the United States is. All the bs that this is the land of opportunity? Opportunity for who? Anyone who is a young model, anyone off the boat. Anyone that is a minority? If you are a white, male over 50 looking for work, I wish you all the luck in the world. People would rather save a puppy from getting killed then help there fellow man. Makes me sick.

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The Tipster in Cathedral City, California

61 months ago

Hey Everyone,

I am an author and I am writing a new book on how to make more money in tips as a server or bartender in a recession. Now I have been in food service for over 9 years but I want to know about some of the things that you may do to make more money in tips or something you may have seen someone else do that got them a higher tip.

Any information you can give me on this topic would be greatly appreciated!

Cheers

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Londontwo in Shawnee, Kansas

60 months ago

Here's a good one for you. I applied for a bar manager job at an establishment. Obviously, I didn't get it. It was given to a young person that I trained as a server back in 1995. Thirty years experience didn't mean a thing. This girl had to get a signed work permit from her parents when I trained her for rest. work. I'm still looking if anyone knows of a bartending job around here.

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velvet McCarthy in Fort Myers, Florida

59 months ago

anon in Denver, Colorado said: hmm. interesting. i work in a bar that prefers to hire older bartenders. the older and grittier the better. the only way i have been able to keep my job is by making myself indispensable. They were desperate for help when i was hired.

Thanks for writing this I am an older bartender 54 and I have worked all my life as a bartender! I work at a bar that hires older bartenders also Ive worked there 9 yrs. Thank God for these type of bars!The only thing bars are lacking is a retirement plan!ha By the way I live in Fl Hows Denver? where do you work? Take care!

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vicque fassinger in Cleveland, Ohio

59 months ago

The year you were born is one of (the very few) things in life you can't change.

As long as drinking alcohol at pubs, clubs, bars, local watering holes, hotels, and motels is still legal for people over 22, there will always be a place SOMEWHERE for a "more seasoned" bartendar.

Though I don't crank my elbow at the local dive (or anywhere) and only patronize places if the LIVE band is awesome, I don't necessarily always want to see a 21-year-old behind the bar. (Granted, when I was 21, I tended bar - but there was live music there every night!)

I think the demographics of the crowd ought to best determine the bartendar. If it is a college town, I think a college student or someone with a college degree is a good fit. If it is a biker bar, a beautiful biker dude behind the bar works well. If it's a swank hotel, a charismatic savvy "experienced" bartendar would be a welcomed site.

Personally, I LOVE seeing SENIORS working at places - golf courses, McD's, the grocery store - they take pride in their work, are happy to be there, and are an awesome inspiration.

I know, I'm a rare bird, but who else is going to keep that bar owner making millions besides me - the girl who orders the $2 pepsi (that costs him about a nickel.)

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Lisa in Hattiesburg, Mississippi

59 months ago

I am busty and blonde and I have a college degree...I am probably a whole lot smarter than you. I also probably make twice as much money as you do.

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Lisa in Hattiesburg, Mississippi

59 months ago

^^^^ My comment above was to bar bill in Cincinnatti, Ohio.

Oh yeh...I'm tired of hearing y'all complain about how shallow your industry is becomming... for god's sake, your working at a bar.

I am not trying to discriminate against older bartenders. As long as you do your job, I don't care how old you are. Just don't say rude things about young, attractive women. I have to kiss every old lady's rear end that I ever see..WHy? BEcause I have to be "respectful." Do people ever do that for me? No. Why? Because I am young.

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jackpot j in Leonardo, New Jersey

59 months ago

Lisa,I am not trying to put you or any other "busty blondes" down. I was pointing out the fact that "that look" has spread from night clubs,and lounges to neighborhood taverns and pubs. I believe that the best bartender tandem is a female and a male with good personalitys builds the best atmosphere. Especially if they can feed off eachother and show the crowd a great time.

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Bob Creely in New Orleans, Louisiana

58 months ago

Asking for advice. Laid off after 35 years, 60 and planing to attend bartending school in New Orleans. What to expect?

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jackpot j in Leonardo, New Jersey

58 months ago

I suggest going everywhere,and dont just rely on help wanted ads and the internet. Personality is the key,show them you are a friendly,upbeat,and fun person. Take the bartending course to learn recipes,but I wouldnt tell perspective employers that your just starting bartending. I know lying is wrong but most bars and restaurants dont like bartending school graduates. I personally would tell them I bartended for 10 to 20 years then gave it up,but now after getting laid-off I'm looking to bartend again. Most places dont call past employers and even if they did at 60 yrs old if you said you stopped bartending ten or twenty years ago what place would still have the same management or even owners. Put down two or three past employers,places that are not open anymore or changed ownership. Also apply as a waiter,tell them you would work your way up,most fine dining establishments the servers make more money anyway. If your looking for work in N.O then you have an endless supply of restaurants and bars so flatfoot it to as many as you can and im sure you'll get some jobs. Good Luck and dont get discouraged,you will encounter some jerks that are looking for Girls gone wild. Keep on Truckin

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jeffnsd in San Diego, California

58 months ago

Regardless if you are an old salt or new behind the bar, join our online community dedicated exclusively for bartenders at www.barmvp.com

All the best,
Jeff

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JoAnna in Jacksonville, North Carolina

57 months ago

Bob Creely in New Orleans, Louisiana said: Asking for advice. Laid off after 35 years, 60 and planing to attend bartending school in New Orleans. What to expect?

After reading the posts above I am nervous fearing I may have made a mistake enrolling in Bartending School. I am a 60 yr old female with a college degree and a recently closed cafe. Plenty of business and people savvy......but sounds like I shouldn't have wasted my enrollment fees.

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LBombshell4@aol.com in Shawnee, Kansas

57 months ago

Good luck to you. I have applied everywhere imaginable. If I apply over the net, I get calls right away. Go in for an interview, get told "we'll get back to you" and never get a call back. Oh, yes I do follow up on these and when I get there, a young bartender tells me the position has been filled. I don't want to take anything away from them, but I need a job too!! By the way, I'm in good shape, have all my teeth and dark hair (not dyed), don't have a lot of tattoos and piercings, and I dress my age. When I go to a formal lounge, I dress a little business-like and when I go to a local pub I dress down. Doesn't make a difference, I'm still closing in on 60, even though I've been told I look like 40's. 30yrs experience doesn't mean a thing.

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Kimberly in Albuquerque, New Mexico

56 months ago

I started in the service industry when I was 13yrs. old in Metairie,La. Mind you it was only on the weekend nights during school then in the summer I worked a bit more. I worked for a po-boy shop which served beer & food. I was trained to pour beer and wait on customers. Now at the age of 43(almost 44), I have found myself un-employed and extremely frustrated with trying to find work. I am very good at what I do...serving the customer in a friendly, fun kind of way. When applying for jobs, I do better if I am able to actually talk to the person hiring. Seems like if I have to leave the application, I never get a call back. I think it is because of my age. Most people think of a 40yr. old as an old hag, raspy voice, alcoholic looking person and that is what I am not. One would think that experience over the 21yr. old would win out yet the 21yr. old seems to get the job every time.

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JoAnna in Jacksonville, North Carolina

56 months ago

All of this is true I believe. I've found that, at 60 yrs and still prime, that there is much discrimination after 40. Men seem to fair better in the job market in most fields. When I get my license I think I will try and create my own venue.....one that cherishes the wisdom and continuity of the older person. Am waiting for my business property to sell in Michigan so I have start up capital. Even at my age I am opening a Pub/eatery. TO HELL WITH THE OPINIONS OF THIS YOUTH ORIENTED SOCIETY. All of the facade fades and what is left is the HEART & INTELLIGENCE of a human being.

Gonna "Kick" this shabby ideal about old people and make my way.

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kavens in Baltimore, Maryland

56 months ago

SRQ Willie in Sarasota, Florida said: I have no idea how I got to this site.... Been there fella's. Used to tend bar at a local place, and a good customer always asked why I was still bartending with the great attitude and sales ability that all good bartenders should have. He always told me that I should get into sales of some sort on the "outside" world. Of course I always said that I could never sell anything to anyone. Of course you know what his response was...."you sell yourself every day and its easy"
Needless to say he pointed me in the right direction, got a little free training (easy to get) and I have been making 6figures ever since. Pretty crazy since I thought at the time that I would NEVER do anything other than bartend, let alone sales. But aren't we all in sales??? Of course. Certainly not trying to sway anyone, but if you want some of the great advice that I got, e-mail me. I was in the same boat as all of you.....sorry about the rant. Jeff kjmm2@comcast.net

I was thinking of going to bartending school but not so sure after reading this, so what do you sell and where is the free training? Ken

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Donna in Grass Valley, California

54 months ago

I too was just thinking of going to bar tending school at 47. I have been running a daycare in my house for 22 years. I am totally burned out and was hoping for a job bar tending but it sounds like I am too old. I am in good shape and have a great personality but now I am discouraged. :-(
donna

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Chloe in Forest Park, Georgia

54 months ago

WD Lance in Hattiesburg, Mississippi said: I'm only 26, but have been bartending for 5 years now(started as soon as I was 21). I recently landed a bartending job at a MGM casino, they hire mostly experienced males. As far as local bars go, I have noticed the increased want for young female bartenders. Any good bartender knows that a female can't change a keg, take out a heavy garbage can, grab a bucket of ice, break up an occasional fight, etc. I understand they could be good for business, on the other hand I think a female should be paired up with an experienced male behind the bar.

Males take care of the duties most females are incapable of. We are counselors/therapists. I don't know about yall, but wouldn't you rather visit a male over a female therapist? I would.

ok first of all i am a female bartender...i'm 28 years old 5'3 and 112 pounds. and i am more than able to change a keg, grab buckets of ice, and throw people out/break up fights if need be, and i live in the NYC metropolitan area which is far rougher than most areas. I dont know what kind of helpless females you're used to. and i find that men would rather talk to a woman than other men any day. get your facts straight.

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Geeg in Lisle, Illinois

54 months ago

Lady, give me a break. You may be a great bartender, can mix a drink, chat with a male over the bar and take out the garbage but please get off your high horse that you can break up a fight if need be. You are 5'3 and 112lbs? If there were a serious fight, there is no way you would be able to do that. It's okay, a fit man is stronger then a fit woman. And for the record, I am a woman.

I suppose you can play professional hockey, arm wrestle and pee standing up too. Why cant a woman admit men are stronger.

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sara in Fort Myers, Florida

53 months ago

If you are older I think you should apply to neighborhood bars, I work at one in cape coral Fl and most of the bartenders are older 50 but our customers are older also. 30-and up. We have 1 girl in her 30's that works there but the other bartenders are in there 50's. You can also (APPLY) to get a job at clubs like the VFW, Moose CLUB ,these bars also hire older bartenders. I know how hard it is right now for people to find a job.. I feel for you.. I hope you find a job soon Sara

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sara in Fort Myers, Florida

53 months ago

This is to the comment that Greg the woman made.. Who cares who is fighting! I tell them once to stop..If they don't the police are there with a phone call, you do not need to get in the middle of a fight..and get your teeth knocked out.. that's why the Bar is in between you and the customers... I am sure that an older bartender would know that.

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Collin Jasonson in Winter Park, Florida

53 months ago

If a man bartender is hired it ain't cause he is pretty. If you want to keep a job as a male bartende the only thing you have to do reach the high stuff and do the heavy lifting. Older male bartenders think they are there to dispence "advice" and "talk" to customers. Although you should do that, the propinceity to get lazy and realy on younger male bartenders to pick up their slack. I have worked with 40 year old bartenders who think they are entitled to the best shifts because they have been there longer. The only way to get the best jobs is to be the best. The ladies have an advantage and so does skill and knowledge. Find a place where people like what you bring to the table and leave the ones that don't.

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Reha in Monroe Township, New Jersey

53 months ago

As long as you present yourself well you should have no problem

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