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FindingMe in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

32 months ago

I would greatly appreciate some advice. I already have regrets so I am just trying to make the best of the situation I’m in now. I am 28 yrs old. Got my A.D.N in 2010 and went straight to do the RN-BSN and completed that in 2011, which I regret now, however I didn’t go into debt for it. I’ve been an RN (ICU) for 2 yrs and I absolutely hate it. I just cannot do this forever. There are not as many options as I was lead to believe. If you don’t want the bedside you are useless so therefore I need to make plans to escape. I have thought about numerous options. I like healthcare but not direct patient care. So I’ve thought about going for RHIT or RHIA, which would mean going back for a either an A.S. or B.S. in health information technology or management degree to be able to sit for those certifications. I’ve thought about becoming a certified in medical billing and coding through a short-term program. I hear coders are needed and can make salaries comparable to nurses. I’ve thought about masters in MSN, MBA, MPH, informatics and Healthcare Admin. Informatics and technology interest me a lot since I am more introverted and like healthcare and computers. However, I am very leary about running back to school for an advanced degree because there’s no guarantee in getting a job plus experience is paramount anyways so then the degree seems obsolete. I refuse to go into debt for high hopes especially when you gotta put your nose to the grindstone anyway . I’m not interested in teaching. I’ve even thought about pursing other degrees in PT, OT, SLP, rad tech, med tech, respiratory….basically anything to get away from nursing. I know I sound like I need career counseling but this whole career thing has been the biggest pain in my ass my entire life. Ultimately I would like to focus on creating multiple streams of income and investments and not depend entirely on a job to provide. Any thoughts appreciated in advance.

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Jelly Brah in Nashville, Tennessee

31 months ago

@FindingMe: I didn't like nursing either; I found it depressing that I could not do more for patients. Went to PA school, and now get to specialize and see healthy and sick people. I also get to do a lot more for patients (i.e. prescribe treatments). I don't do any bedside work, so you this may interest you.

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ImmaRNnow in La Quinta, California

23 months ago

Later in life (mid 50's now) I decided to go back to school for nursing. I just graduated recently and became licensed. I feel very good about this accomplishment and have been frustrated trying to find a job as a new grad and have now been offered a job as a nurse auditor in a hospital. It's honestly scarey knowing how much an RN is responsible for on the job in patient care, and at the same time it's a "feel good" profession, or at least that's how I feel. Stumbling across this auditor position without ever working in patient care makes me wonder if I'll miss something if I decide to continue as an auditor. The auditor pay is good, the hours are great, and nobody yells at me...no potential needle stick injuries..etc. From reading these posts I'm starting to feel less like I may be missing something and more grateful that this job opportunity fell into my lap. So my comment to the poster if she's still currently reading, there are many other opportunities out there for you with your RN degree/license. Auditing, quality....to name a few. Wherever you are, I hope you've found a renewed sense of purpose for your degree/license.

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lucyshoes in Grand Rapids, Michigan

22 months ago

cynicaldreamer1 in Jacksonville, Florida said: Hi. My generic email is cynicaldreamer1@yahoo.com. I check it occasionally. How is the decision making going?

Hello FindingMe, & others. I have been devastated and disillusioned by nursing, even after obtaining the BSN. I completely understand where FindingMe is coming from. It is exhausting thankless work, and is ultimately the blame profession of ages. No matter how hard I work, care and give and do, management always demands more, it is never good enough. Nurses are treated like children, just a means to the financial end of the institution(s). I too assumed I was entering a respected and respectful profession. I was hoping the advent of "evidence based practice" would produce autonomy and a chance to let critical thinking win out. Not so, thus far. Its posturing, mostly. At any rate, I was thinking along the lines of NP, or case management, virtual /remote nursing and/or case management. What does it take to get into this line of work? They all want "experience", but I am "stuck" in the bedside area. Any ideas? Suggestions? I have managed a project during my degree, even had some case mgmt experience 6 years ago when working for home health care (which that company no longer is around, as owner retired & sold it). Any suggestions on veering along a technical path or case management path?

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AngelaBrooks

18 months ago

Hello I understand where you are - that was me. I have 25 years in nursing and I wanted out! I am not teaching other burntout nurses how I did that and retired my nursing job to work from home in a business that makes more than my nursing did or would have. Would love to connect. Let me know if I can help there is more to life after nursing:)
Angela
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FindingMe in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma said: I would greatly appreciate some advice. I already have regrets so I am just trying to make the best of the situation I’m in now. I am 28 yrs old. Got my A.D.N in 2010 and went straight to do the RN-BSN and completed that in 2011, which I regret now, however I didn’t go into debt for it. I’ve been an RN (ICU) for 2 yrs and I absolutely hate it.[/QU

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Did in Altamonte Springs, Florida

17 months ago

I'm close to purchasing a second grooming facility, but this one has daycare and boarding. I will far exceed the money I made nursing with faaaaar less hours and stress. With just my one shop which I am basically absentee owner I already make more than I did as an RN, RCIS. There IS money in business. Don't necessarily have to invest more money into more education. Depends on what you want. I dislike school.

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Did in Altamonte Springs, Florida

17 months ago

With your RN it allows us to risk other ventures if your heart isn't happy in nursing. It's why I went into the field. Always a fall back career for me now.

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Me

17 months ago

Consider yourself fortunate. I've quit nursing twice, fell on my ass twice, now begging to get back in. :(

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keriwhit in Winter Park, Florida

17 months ago

Me said: Consider yourself fortunate. I've quit nursing twice, fell on my ass twice, now begging to get back in. :(

Here's a thought-when you were in nursing, did you specialize? Do you have invaluable experience in any areas where you could consult? Really, anything...management, staff training, risk, etc.... I'm actually going to try my hand at it-not promising myself anything grand, but I'm gonna try. Had my first "assessment" today with a physician who is doing research, and needs help organizing and tidying up his trials. I haven't any idea how to "consult" as a living, but I'm gonna pull on every friend/business acquaintance that I can think of who can help me with things to consider and how to charge for my services. This line of work would also open you up to be able to do things at YOUR schedule (mostly), and you'll still have time to live/enjoy your life, and not get to the point of burnout just for a paycheck. But, its success will be determined by how hard you work at it (as are most things). Good Luck, "Me"... :)

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lucyshoes in Jenison, Michigan

17 months ago

keriwhit in Winter Park, Florida said: Here's a thought-when you were in nursing, did you specialize? Do you have invaluable experience in any areas where you could consult? Really, anything...management, staff training, risk, etc.... I'm actually going to try my hand at it-not promising myself anything grand, but I'm gonna try. Had my first "assessment" today with a physician who is doing research, and needs help organizing and tidying up his trials. I haven't any idea how to "consult" as a living, but I'm gonna pull on every friend/business acquaintance that I can think of who can help me with things to consider and how to charge for my services. This line of work would also open you up to be able to do things at YOUR schedule (mostly), and you'll still have time to live/enjoy your life, and not get to the point of burnout just for a paycheck. But, its success will be determined by how hard you work at it (as are most things). Good Luck, "Me"... :)

This sounds like a fabulous opportunity. Can you let me know how it goes? I am inadvertently trying to specialize, in a dialysis field, working in a clinic I am currently clinical manager right now. I am thinking certification in Renal therapies or Renal Nursing could be valuable. Let me know how this goes for you, and how you found such an opportunity.

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kkorvette in Apopka, Florida

17 months ago

FindingMe in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma said: I would greatly appreciate some advice. I already have regrets so I am just trying to make the best of the situation I’m in now. I am 28 yrs old. Got my A.D.N in 2010 and went straight to do the RN-BSN and completed that in 2011, which I regret now, however I didn’t go into debt for it. I’ve been an RN (ICU) for 2 yrs and I absolutely hate it. I just cannot do this forever. There are not as many options as I was lead to believe. If you don’t want the bedside you are useless so therefore I need to make plans to escape. I have thought about numerous options. I like healthcare but not direct patient care. So I’ve thought about going for RHIT or RHIA, which would mean going back for a either an A.S. or B.S. in health information technology or management degree to be able to sit for those certifications. I’ve thought about becoming a certified in medical billing and coding through a short-term program. I hear coders are needed and can make salaries comparable to nurses. I’ve thought about masters in MSN, MBA, MPH, informatics and Healthcare Admin . Informatics and technology interest me a lot since I am more introverted and like healthcare and computers. However, I am very leary about running back to school for an advanced degree because there’s no guarantee in getting a job plus experience is paramount anyways so then the degree seems obsolete. I refuse to go into debt for high hopes especially when you gotta put your nose to the grindstone anyway . I’m not interested in teaching. I’ve even thought about pursing other degrees in PT, OT, SLP, rad tech, med tech, respiratory….basically anything to get away from nursing. I know I sound like I need career counseling but this whole career thing has been the biggest pain in my ass my entire life. Ultimately I would like to focus on creating multiple streams of income and investments and not depend entirely on a job to provide. Any thoughts appreciated in advance.[

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nursenomore in scappoose, Oregon

17 months ago

I have been out of hospital nursing for 18 months and have not been able to find a job. I have easily submitted 5-15 applications a week for the last year. It seems, once you're out of nursing for more than 6 months, as a nurse, you are not marketable. I have been told that by numerous agencies, temp placement companies and hospital recruiters. I would never have imagined after 28 years of nursing, 6 months of inactivity negates all my experience. ATTN: all you who say you can't go on in nursing; keep your foot in the door until something better comes along. I have a small home business which is struggling and I figure I have 2 more months before my savings runs out and I lose my home. If anyone could recommend career options after nursing, I'm listening. Obviously I don't have money to go back to school and I am over 55 so starting anew would not be financially feasible or practical. Any suggestions for an old nurse welcome.

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Me

17 months ago

With the government finally pulling their head out of the sand, a few more hospital positions have opened up this past week around here and I'll be one of the hundreds applying for them. :^) After that, I'm going to take a crack at yet another make money from home idea I have that will keep me eating at least!

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AngelaB in Cadiz, Kentucky

17 months ago

Business - Nursepreneuer

Cando in Saint Petersburg, Florida said: This question is or hardworkingnurse in Spring TX-so what career would you get into instead of nursing? I always find it interesting when nurses do not like their career-you realize your profession is one of the highest paid and has the most jobs?

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AngelaB in Cadiz, Kentucky

17 months ago

Burnout is why I am retiring 2 years early

kkorvette in Apopka, Florida said: I am a burned out Nurse approaching retirement. I do not feel that I could recommend this job to anyone unless it was done independently. good luck with all your endeavors.

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Me in Milwaukee, Wisconsin

17 months ago

Has the most jobs? They aren't being filled! Why is it that so many nurses are looking for work?? Because employers would rather run their units at bare minimum staffing! Has the most jobs .... pffft.

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AngelaB in Cadiz, Kentucky

17 months ago

Me said: With the government finally pulling their head out of the sand, a few more hospital positions have opened up this past week around here and I'll be one of the hundreds applying for them. :^) After that, I'm going to take a crack at yet another make money from home idea I have that will keep me eating at least!

Let me know if I can help. I have been down that road

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worstcareerchoiceever

17 months ago

nursenomore in scappoose, Oregon said: I have been out of hospital nursing for 18 months and have not been able to find a job. I have easily submitted 5-15 applications a week for the last year. It seems, once you're out of nursing for more than 6 months, as a nurse, you are not marketable. I have been told that by numerous agencies, temp placement companies and hospital recruiters. I would never have imagined after 28 years of nursing, 6 months of inactivity negates all my experience. ATTN: all you who say you can't go on in nursing; keep your foot in the door until something better comes along. I have a small home business which is struggling and I figure I have 2 more months before my savings runs out and I lose my home. If anyone could recommend career options after nursing, I'm listening. Obviously I don't have money to go back to school and I am over 55 so starting anew would not be financially feasible or practical. Any suggestions for an old nurse welcome.

I, too, have been in nursing for 27 years and after years of physical, verbal, and mental abuse took a nursing job outside acute patient care. I have been in a so-called "occupational health" position for three years. While in this position I decided to return to school and complete my BSN. After realizing this job was a joke (I do nothing that real occupational health nurses do)I began looking for another job only to be told I have been away from the bedside and out of the OR for too long. I was also bamboozled while in school with false hopes of all the fantastic job opportunities which would await me after completing my BSN. If you don't have at least 5 years of current experience in anything you are useless as a nurse. Even with a BSN I am struggling trying to find another position as the longer I stay in this job the more unmarketable I become. I don't dare tell any prospective employer that I am 53 as that will really make me dead in the water. I need ideas for another career path.

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worstcareerchoiceever in Columbia, Maryland

17 months ago

All those ads in the media are very misleading. Nursing is not flexible and you don't have a plethora of job choices when you complete school or even after gaining a considerable amount of experience. Nursing is, in fact, very limiting. I still have to work for several more years and have found myself stuck in a dead-end nursing job with no promise of advancement. I just spent a ton of money on completing a BSN and still cannot find a decent job,especially one outside of patient care. I don't want to risk going back for a MSN only to be told I have no experience in any job I apply for. It's too late to start another career, especially one in the food industry. Any suggestions, tips, pointers would be greatly appreciated.

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FM in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

17 months ago

THe last poster is right on. I believed the hype that there are endless opportunities in nursing. If you don't like one area, you can make plenty of lateral moves and yada yada. But if nurses are useless after being out of patient care for a short time, that says a lot about how limiting it really is. You are not valuable outside of patient care for awhile no matter the years of exp.

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nursenomore in scappoose, Oregon

17 months ago

As a 57 yo BSN RN with 28 years experience, I will be grateful to get a job at Dairy Queen. 18 months without an income really changes one's self perception. Then to be told repeatedly I've been out of hospital nursing too long to be considered employable (that started after 6 months!). . . let's just say, to claim I am a nurse now feels like a lie. My spouse and I are trying to get a home business going but that won't address the benefits like health care, retirement, etc. I would suggest finding a small niche business to start with minimal investment, and continuing the search for something in health care. Unfortunately, despite being a field where employee abuse is the norm, it pays better than most fields at an entry level. Luckily, we paid well ahead on our loans while I had a good income so there was a little cushion when the income stopped. TAKE A LESSON NURSES: pay ahead, save for a rainy day - or a big storm, volunteer or take a part time job in an area outside of nursing so when you are nearing retirement and the axe falls, or when burn-out happens, you have something else to fall back on. Besides that, working in an outside area such as retail or food service, helps maintain a balance in one's work life.

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nursenomore in scappoose, Oregon

17 months ago

The BSN will help you advance in your present position to a more supervisory or management position but I have not found the degree alone opens any new doors for me. It's the 'experience' plus the degree they want. It may not be too much of a jump to go to Industrial Nurse or some community health/rehab area of nursing. If I had the money I would return to school for Nurse Educator or Health Care Informatics. As it is, I can't go into a specialty area with paying big $$ for some specialized training or advanced degree. My specialty was PACU - 12 years, Intensive Care - 15 years. Now I would be happy to get a med/surg position on the night shift.

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Did in Altamonte Springs, Florida

17 months ago

All the hospitals are using the same mantra, out too long. They don't want to pay us experienced nurses. It's scary, new nurses taking care of patients on an orthopedic floor with all new nurses. Scared me half to death after my hip surgery. But if this travesty of obamacare stays, worry not. Once again jobs will be falling from trees. 36 million more insured. They'll be screaming for nurses.

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nursenomore in scappoose, Oregon

17 months ago

thank you, gives me a little hope

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Healthcare20735 in Clinton, Maryland

17 months ago

Have you tried contact White Coat Medical Staffing out of Southern,Maryland? They have real nursing jobs available. If you have 3-5 years of straight employment and a BSN, you shouldn't have a problem. Call and check with them to see what types of career advance openings they have in nursing. This company is thus-far the most trusted site for those looking for healthcare career jobs. If they do not have anything available that you are looking for they will tell you. All of their postings on their site are real jobs. Not just recruiting, they are real jobs. Give them a call. Tell them Sandy sent you.

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Healthcare20735 in Clinton, Maryland

17 months ago

I agree

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Bella in Summerville, South Carolina

17 months ago

I think you should start a personal blog and just write about what is important to you or things you enjoy doing. You will, without effort, build a following of others who are just like you. And you can show them a way of channeling there energy into something constructive.

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worstcareerchoiceever in Columbia, Maryland

17 months ago

Bella in Summerville, South Carolina said: I think you should start a personal blog and just write about what is important to you or things you enjoy doing. You will, without effort, build a following of others who are just like you. And you can show them a way of channeling there energy into something constructive.

That sounds nice but, I need a job which will bring in income relative to what I've been making as a registered nurse

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Lookingfornewcareer in Overland Park, Kansas

17 months ago

Did in Altamonte Springs, Florida
22 days ago
I'm close to purchasing a second grooming facility, but this one has daycare and boarding. I will far exceed the money I made nursing with faaaaar less hours and stress. With just my one shop which I am basically absentee owner I already make more than I did as an RN, RCIS. There IS money in business. Don't necessarily have to invest more money into more education. Depends on what you want. I dislike school.

How do you get into the dog grooming/doggie daycare business?

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Hey in Minto, Australia

16 months ago

What happened to my post?

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Lorodz in Minto, Australia

16 months ago

I'm 28 years old and I have been In the industry for 5 years now. I am a highly specialized nurse, working in operating rooms. I am currently working as an operating room nurse in Sydney.
I can highly relate to the OP. nursing is such A stressful job! Although I have toughened it out about the back stabbing and women bitching (I have an I-don't-care attitude, I'm a male nurse by the way) the lack of career progression is bothering me. (I have a bachelors degree in nursing) I have seen nurses at work bragging, I have been in the profession for 10-20 years! Yet what they can do, I can do it too (caesarean procedures anyone?) the only thing that is differentiating us is the years of experience and that's it. Some of the nurses there are so unmotivated, it seem they're just there for the money. But when I go to work I am so enthusiastic and give my 101%. Management took notice and began placing me in highly specialized surgical procedures (orthopedics joint replacements) they are even accelerating my position from junior nurse to a scrub nurse that can independently run surgical lists. For me it is exciting and thrilling. But at the end of the day, I'm just being paid at the same rate as those unmotivated nurses. Nursing lacks the merit system where big corporations give out I.e. performance bonuses.
When I finish my surgical list and have done a good job, management would just tell me: "see ya tomorrow! "Nothing else. I can continue working as a nurse now because I am young. What I am worrying about is the lack of promotions and recognition of a job well done. To this end I think nursing is a vocation. One must not get into the field if your only after the money. It will drain you.
And by the way, I finished a 4 year degree. I just can't fathom how surgeons treat us like garbage. (Some surgeons are nice though) To be a nurse, a 4 year degree is too much. I'm sorry to say this but any person with a common sense can do nursing.
I salute all the nurses out there.

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nursenomore in scappoose, Oregon

16 months ago

Hey Lorodz, It is comforting to hear from someone who still has enthusiasm for nursing - like a memory from years ago. When you feel your enthusiasm waning, start looking beyond your specialty. I found changing my environment every few years kept me interested. And don't knock the BSN. No, it's not necessary to do the job - training and experience are what's needed. But, the BSN will open doors for you down the road as long as you have experience and are willing to play politics. Truly: the BSN opens the door but playing politics is what allows you to pass through the door. I've worked in 3 major hospital systems in 3 states (and several smaller hospitals) and they are all the same.
The trick is to stay focused on why you are there and know when it's time to move on.

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Experience doesn't matter in Redmond, Oregon

16 months ago

In the US most hospitals have unions which mean your going to get paid the same as the next nurse who is just a warm body. Gotta play the nursing politics game or get out.

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happistar

16 months ago

Almost 30 years as an RN and still think the best part of the job is wearing a uniform that doesn't need to be dry cleaned.
If you are looking for a career where your critical thinking and experience will be appreciated, this is not it.

If you don't specialize you won't progress anywhere. "Corporate politics" are as pervasive in the hospital as they are on Wall Street. Nurses are not your friends. The childish back-biting and one-upsman antics are reminiscent of high school. Whatever happens, it's your fault. Everyone is looking to point the fingers of blame at someone else. And, more often than not, the patients that you serve are as unappreciative as the administrative team.
Take DOG Groomer's advice and do something else, on your own if possible.
P.S. Don't ever think that you are going to be able to retire. Life throws curves. I'm 71, still working and looking to start a new career.

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BethRN in Houston, Texas

16 months ago

Nurse for 27+ years and done tons!!! Hospital, office, outpatient surgery, L&D, published research nurse, medical malpractice investigation. I have an RN BSN. In my opinion hospital nurses are paid the best but have the least flexibility. Research nurses don't pay as well, but I had TONS of flexibility. Currently working in L&D at an inner city hospital and hate it. Trying to figure out where to go next.

I don't love dogs, anyone else doing something they love that pays well.

FYI- I was out of nursing 15 years. I went to the crappiest hospital in town that had JCAHO problems and was hired to do pre-op/PACU. It sucked but after 6 months I got hired by a nice hospital since I had recent experience. If you can speak reasonable English, live in at least a medium sized city and are willing to work anywhere you can get back to the bedside.

Also I totally agree with the suggestion to save money when you have it. Having savings gives you options.

Also there are lots of RN jobs in Houston TX.

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Biff Bradford in Madison, Wisconsin

16 months ago

Experience doesn't matter in Redmond, Oregon said: In the US most hospitals have unions which mean your going to get paid the same as the next nurse who is just a warm body. Gotta play the nursing politics game [u]or get out.[/u]

Well, that's the subject of this discussion I guess!

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Cheryl in Chicago, Illinois

16 months ago

Beth, Be careful in Houston. I worked for the clinic there.Held differentials for 20 mos.verbally abused,refused off times even for surgery. Made life a hell. When applied to hospital after 18 mos working there was told had to do internship because "you left nursing" Over 30 yrs experience evaporated?? Then got economic layoff 9 days after they posted my job. The put all bonuses into the AIG 401k which lost most of its value in stock plunge. Moved to another state not thinking how many nursing schools in this area.Now unemployment has run out,had done seasonal work (flu shots,cornfield nursing) now in 3rd mo of sciatica episode. Have applied everywhere,repeatedly and honestly no longer care as I used to. Bad nursing jobs have become the norm. BTW, found out bees have actual changes in their genes when they change function from high functioning forager to low status nurse bees. Found it interesting that even bee nurses are dissed and that occupation changes genes. Would be interesting to see genetic study of nurses as they slide down the spectrum of disillusioned,injured,to burned to ash. I would also love to see correlation between that gene study and documentation of inflammation/ auto immune disease markers. Oh, wait, I can't think things like that because I only have Diploma with 35 yrs of experience...silly me. Meanwhile,hosp/clinic entity in next county has 94 nursing opening.Recruiter(not a nurse) has an assistant that sets up the phone interview asking nonsensical canned questions then makes you submit your references to a 3rd party vetting company by email. References not responding to email inquiry means no job. I am simply a pile of dehumanized,depressed ash waiting to be buried. Guess I best get going to apply for Medicaid and foodstamps...I feel like a failure,even though I know several RN's in the same boat. It stinks.

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Experience doesn't matter in Redmond, Oregon

16 months ago

I am sorry that a great nurse like you, Cheryl, is experiencing this overabundance of low grade nurses. I am an ADN with a bachelor's in another field. Diploma nurses were the best. They seriously can wipe the floor with ADN and BSNs. I am underemployed, I never thought I would be in this position. I left a place where I was expected to work 24 hours in a row if the next nurse called in. Hang in there, you are not a failure.

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become a coder instead in Norristown, Pennsylvania

15 months ago

nursenomore in scappoose, Oregon said: I have been out of hospital nursing for 18 months and have not been able to find a job. I have easily submitted 5-15 applications a week for the last year. It seems, once you're out of nursing for more than 6 months, as a nurse, you are not marketable. I have been told that by numerous agencies, temp placement companies and hospital recruiters. I would never have imagined after 28 years of nursing, 6 months of inactivity negates all my experience. ATTN: all you who say you can't go on in nursing; keep your foot in the door until something better comes along. I have a small home business which is struggling and I figure I have 2 more months before my savings runs out and I lose my home. If anyone could recommend career options after nursing, I'm listening. Obviously I don't have money to go back to school and I am over 55 so starting anew would not be financially feasible or practical. Any suggestions for an old nurse welcome.

Isn't it amazing - coming from "agency people" that don't even know the first thing about nursing. I find it totally ridiculous. I has some IT recruiter tell me that I worked in the "stone age", because I last worked in cardiac transplant unit 10 yrs earlier. I think we should all form a national nurses union so WE have the control over our profession, not non-medical people/recruiters looking to make a quick buck on our heads.

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become a coder instead in Norristown, Pennsylvania

15 months ago

Cheryl in Chicago, Illinois said: Beth, Be careful in Houston.

Have you tried getting soc sec disability? Then with that (or before getting) I believe you can attempt to have your local/state office of vocational rehab pay for addtl schooling for a new career. I was severely injured as a nurse in 93', and I wish I had just called it quits and demanded new degree etc. Instead I muddled thru after back surg and kept trying to get these little jobs like case mgr, legal consultant etc - all which usu end up temp/contract or indep contractor. I lost a lot of salary over the years. I'm also in your age group, and was recently axed as a med auditor after 2yrs, and getting NO responses from anyone. There are millions of jobs for coders with a HS diploma and accreditation - one I saw for 85,000 + 10,000 sign on bonus. I find it disgusting that nurses as a group can be manipulated and disposed of when they can save money.

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BethRN in Houston, Texas

15 months ago

I think I have finally started to figure some of this out. Different degrees lead to very different experiences. I have a BSN and since I posted my resume a couple of jobs have called me- nothing I have actually gotten yet but still. Since for a hospital to get Magnet status it needs to have a certain percentage of BSN nurses. I think this probably has a lot of influence on who they are willing to take a chance on. Not saying it is right mind you, just saying it may explain why some nurses move in and out of the hospitals and some don't seem able too. Just a thought. Beth

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Cheryl in Chicago, Illinois

15 months ago

I hate that we are living through this. I haven't gotten response from unions on this,seems you have to join to get any answers. I don't have money to waste. Looking at the law, business can hire whoever they choose DT Right to Work.Experience and expertise are our issues,theirs is profit.With current climate favoring insurance and IT business instead of actual healthcare we won't be heard. In the meantime nursing will be done by MA, supervised by inexperienced,overworked nurses. I am thinking it is going to take some horrid disaster to wake this country up to failed healthcare.
BTW,went on interview yesterday. They wanted me to summarize myself in one word. What are your short and long term career goals? AAuuugh. I said I was complicated and survive and cope. I never studied acting..perhaps should have.

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Cheryl in Chicago, Illinois

15 months ago

Beth, You are right that BSN or MSN is hotly desired right now.This is not changing the staffing ratios or shift length, liability or experience needed for the workplace. I don't believe BSN imparts better critical thinking,or assessment skills but from business POV looks better in current monitoring. We will see how the outcome trends hold. Staff retention and satisfaction measures will impact brand loyalty/recognition on hospitals.
I think this is demographic issue. When you review posters,is over 25 yrs experience that is having trouble regardless of degree,that also means those nurses are over 50. In the last 10 yrs there have been a lot of second career nurses who are getting to 45 now, will be interesting to see if they have same experience as us oldies. That would validate my theory of ageism. A hospital in Clearlake is said to want to project a more youthful staff,even nurses with BSN are worried about their future.
Seems the successful nurse is to be 35,BSN,no kids or family,nonsmoker,living within 20 min from workplace,BMI less than 25,resistant to injuries, having no gaps in employment, being grateful for whatever pay/retirement is offered without complaint and won't rock the boat.
How many nurses who posted,or you know to meet this description? Not me!!

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NewPTAChick in Baltimore, Maryland

15 months ago

I'm glad that I'm getting out of nursing. I've been a CNA for over ten years and it is horrible. i'm 33 and I know more than most of the new grad nurses coming in who are in their early twenties and mid twenties. it's crazy. I know more than they do and it's sucks because these little girls have some piece of paper that says that they can boss me around. are you kidding me? I hate it. I already know what nursing is like and I'm not doing it. Forget that. And also I don't think a BSN means that you know more than the other nurse coming in the door with the associate's degree. it means you just paid more for your education. Please. adios nursing and hello physical therapy. :D

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NewPTAChick in Baltimore, Maryland

15 months ago

Cheryl in Chicago, Illinois said: I hate that we are living through this. I haven't gotten response from unions on this,seems you have to join to get any answers. I don't have money to waste. Looking at the law, business can hire whoever they choose DT Right to Work.Experience and expertise are our issues,theirs is profit.With current climate favoring insurance and IT business instead of actual healthcare we won't be heard. In the meantime nursing will be done by MA, supervised by inexperienced,overworked nurses. I am thinking it is going to take some horrid disaster to wake this country up to failed healthcare.
BTW,went on interview yesterday. They wanted me to summarize myself in one word. What are your short and long term career goals? AAuuugh. I said I was complicated and survive and cope. I never studied acting..perhaps should have.

How long have you been an RN?

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NewPTAChick in Baltimore, Maryland

15 months ago

tutulisewa in Rio Rancho, New Mexico said: Hello out there, I am a Patient Care Tech ( CNA )in one of the local hospitals here in town. I've been doing this for 2 1/2 years. I was planning on going to nursing school, but now am burned out myself and disgusted at the way the nurses are treated. In my experience as a tech, I see what the nurses go through, and how their work goes. They are everything posted above, and then some. I am so unhappy, stressed out, and disrespected, as well as the nurses. The nurses don't only administer medications, wound care etc. We are always short staffed with nurses leaving, with a high turn around. We all work long 12's, and sometimes go home crying, I've seen nurses hiding around the corner or bathroom in tears. We are all shorthanded, and are overloaded with patients. It is an emotional, and physical stress we have to take home. As for me, I'm sick of patients, and their families disrespecting me, and some even have the guts to go to the charge to make up lies about me, and then I'm blamed..even though I kiss everyone's butt, and are xtra nice to ones who treat me bad. Sometimes, I'm verbally abused by patients, and even hit, and almost bit by patients. I'm so exhausted and my husband has gotten used to my silence when I come home, and emotions. I'm no longer pursuing a nursing career, as you guys can only tell how I goggled opinions on how one is questioning nursing. I can see how OT's, PT's, SLP's, and RT's, and Radiology techs look so pleasant, because they can move around from patient to patient without worries. I even question them about how they like their career, and I made up my mind to achieve a Radiology Tech associate degree. Good luck to all of you, as I remember my RN Aunt who h20 something plus years telling me "why do you want to become a nurse". I'm truly grateful that I have experienced first hand the nurse tech experience. I hope you find what your looking for. God bless.

yes I agree

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Cheryl in Chicago, Illinois

15 months ago

36 yrs of being RN. I have followed my desire to learn and improve process. NICU> M/B/NBN/PP with RNC ( now lapsed) to clinic with 7 specialities but doing mostly OB then telephone triage, basic/advanced disaster life support.Working with migrant workers during field work. I have a great understanding of many processes surrounding child bearing,family support and child abuse prevention which is what I have done on the side for 25 yrs. Child welfare reform needs impact my selected target population. I read/advocate/ write constantly and will hold my own in debates of policy yet to get a job in nursing I am supposed to distill myself to one word????

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minnie min in anywhere land, Washington

15 months ago

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYTHING you said!!! wsa so on point!!! Especially the last sentence!

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minnie min in anywhere land, Washington

15 months ago

Cando in Saint Petersburg, Florida said: Well I didn't mean to imply that you just went into the profession for money...but a lot of people do..that and to marry a doctor ( yes this is true). I just do not understand how people go into nursing and say it sucks...of course it does, you are dealing with sick people all the time.

I understand though...it's the worst when you hate what you do for a living. First off I would do a little soul searching...what direction do you want to go into? What exactly do you not like about your job? Should you go back to school and receive your Master's so you can go into management? If you feel direct patient care isn't for you then do a little research..just remember nursing has so many avenues that I'm sure you haven't even looked at.

Just remember the average person has three careers and you are young enough to change. Nothing is a mistake just a different route...

Good luck

90% of people go into the health field for Mulah. You are so correct.

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minnie min in anywhere land, Washington

15 months ago

NOBODY REALLY EVER GAVE HER ADVICE ABOUT HEALTHCARE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY :(

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