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MichaelPharmD in New Jersey

36 months ago

I have been active on this site for a while. I have been looking for pharmacy work for over a year. I was able to get per diem but they only give me one shift a month.

I have a PharmD, residency, certifications, and experience; however, jobs are not out there. I have spoken to recruiters that tell me they do not have anything.

I search on Indeed and see RPHontheGo spamming fake positions which makes it really hard to find anything.

I have applied to every job I see on indeed in a 200 mile radius along with being licensed in more than one state. Can anyone offer any sort of advice? I call to followup on my submitted resumes but the company recruiters tell me the match-up qualifications and pass on resumes.

I have applied for jobs only to be denied 4 hours later telling me the job is already filled. Are most of these posted jobs just formalities of Human Resources to post a position? I am really trying to find anything I can. I apply to every job I see posted the day it is posted. I spend about 4 hours a day looking for jobs. I know local pharmacists who also trying to help out but they even said that there are no jobs being created.

I am in NJ and licensed in another state as well.

Please any helpful advice would be appreciated. This is destroying my resume, my confidence, and my support of this profession. I have been a pharmacist for a number of years. I have emailed posts on craigslist offering to work for less than anyone else.

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spar335 in Auckland, New Zealand

36 months ago

Maybe move to a rural part of America and work there? Just keep trying.

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Danna RPH in Boca Raton, Florida

36 months ago

MichaelPharmD in New Jersey said: I have been active on this site for a while. I have been looking for pharmacy work for over a year. I was able to get per diem but they only give me one shift a month.

I have a PharmD, residency, certifications, and experience; however, jobs are not out there. I have spoken to recruiters that tell me they do not have anything.

I search on Indeed and see RPHontheGo spamming fake positions which makes it really hard to find anything.

I have applied to every job I see on indeed in a 200 mile radius along with being licensed in more than one state. Can anyone offer any sort of advice? I call to followup on my submitted resumes but the company recruiters tell me the match-up qualifications and pass on resumes.

I have applied for jobs only to be denied 4 hours later telling me the job is already filled. Are most of these posted jobs just formalities of Human Resources to post a position? I am really trying to find anything I can. I apply to every job I see posted the day it is posted. I spend about 4 hours a day looking for jobs. I know local pharmacists who also trying to help out but they even said that there are no jobs being created.

I am in NJ and licensed in another state as well.

Please any helpful advice would be appreciated. This is destroying my resume, my confidence, and my support of this profession. I have been a pharmacist for a number of years. I have emailed posts on craigslist offering to work for less than anyone else.

I feel the same way, thankfully I have only out of work for 5 months, have been in retail for almost 30 years. Clinical/hospital is not an option for a BS with no experience. Tired of making CEO rich by working my butt off. Thinking of opening my own drug store. Am I crazy? Would you be interested in partnering that idea in South Florida? Good Luck!

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Ivan Von Messer in Boston, Massachusetts

32 months ago

I am now unemployed for more than a year (1.5) I have three years of experience in an outpatient setting, certified to provide immunizations, up to date on my CE, and can speak two languages. None of that is helping. It is even difficult these days to contact recruiters by phone because they find every single way not to talk to you. Someone once suggested to visit hospitals' HR departments and directly ask for a job. This is a joke. Nobody will speak to you, and all you will get, "go search and apply at our website" Honestly, I do not believe that once you are unemployed as a pharmacist you can find a job! So far I was unable to accomplish this, and I feel that I simply do not get serious considerations. Within 8 months of continuous search, I only had 3 interviews. I showed up just to hear that I never officially held a supervising pharmacist title, and that they are looking for someone with strong managerial skills. Can't employers see that from my CV??? I sent tones of requests to apply for a job. But I feel that most job postings are fakes, which are created by employers to fake that the economy is getting better. I do strongly believe that HR staff know in advance who they are going to hire before they post positions. However, they have to interview a certain number of people for a "check-mark" so they will not be accused for hiring pharmacists in a corrupted way. I am searching for a job in New York City. I need an advise... How do you overcome the problem that you are unemployed when you search for a job? Employers do not take you seriously thinking that your skills faded or outdated. Guess what? If you ask them to give you a relevant skill evaluation exam, they simply refuse. So if you are unemployed as a pharmacist, do you have to forget about your profession? Please give me an advise; it will be highly appreciated. My email is ivan_kaprielb@hotmail.com. I think that we pharmacists need somehow involve the government to resolve these problems.

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Sahith in Hyderabad, India

27 months ago

Hi, my self sahith... I'm from India. I'm doing my pharm d 5th year...I am planning to come to u.s after my completion of course...as i know I should go for Naplex test for my registration...but with out registration will I get any job.....can any pls help me....

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UsedRph in Madison, Alabama

24 months ago

CAPharmD in Stockton, California said: Yeah – you’re right! I feel sorry for the pharmacy techs in those lousy schools – they pay 15-20K for their tuition and find out (all too quickly) that there are no technician jobs out there to help fund their debt. Without a job, how can they manage to pay their tuition/debt costs? The schools totally rip them off. And US pharmacy schools are NOT without blame for allowing their skyrocketing tuition to get out of control, knowing full well there are no jobs awaiting their newly-minted graduates. How can they pay their debt if there are NO jobs? It’s such a joke. Friggin’ ridiculous.

There will be PLENTY of pharmacy tech jobs CREATED out there at the various pharmacy ententies: Pharmacy tech's are the future in pharmacy and legislation will make that happen :

news.wfsu.org/post/house-approves-letting-pharmacists-oversee-six-times-many-technicians

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UsedRph in Madison, Alabama

24 months ago

CAPharmD in Stockton, California said: Yeah – you’re right! I feel sorry for the pharmacy techs in those lousy schools – they pay 15-20K for their tuition and find out (all too quickly) that there are no technician jobs out there to help fund their debt. Without a job, how can they manage to pay their tuition/debt costs? The schools totally rip them off. And US pharmacy schools are NOT without blame for allowing their skyrocketing tuition to get out of control, knowing full well there are no jobs awaiting their newly-minted graduates. How can they pay their debt if there are NO jobs? It’s such a joke. Friggin’ ridiculous.

news.wfsu.org/post/house-approves-letting-pharmacists-oversee-six-times-many-technicians

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UsedRph in Madison, Alabama

24 months ago

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RxGuy35 in Jacksonville, Florida

24 months ago

the politicians are ignorant a**holes.... I've worked with many techs that are absolutely worthless... working with them/working by yourself.....same difference..

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John in London, Ontario

23 months ago

I graduated in 2011, did all the required examinations and got my qualifications and jurisprudence exam in Ontario and I still haven't found an internship and I live in a rural area. I want to get out of pharmacy, but I put so much effort, hard work and money into and I just don't know what to do anymore.

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Rx Veteran in Maryland

21 months ago

MichaelPharmD in New Jersey said:

I have a PharmD, residency, certifications, and experience;
however, jobs are not out there.

Spamming fake positions which makes it really hard to find anything.

Are most of these posted jobs just formalities of Human Resources to post a position?

Yes, the jobs you see are posted because employers are required to publicly announce jobs. However, they are already filled. There is
back door hiring of students/new pharmds who are connected with the school. Soon they quit, because they can't handle the work flow. Then they are at the mercy of Corporate Retail. You know what happens then..
Folks end up in your situation.

All of the BS sold to you, by the school, but no way to use it. The real thing that angers me? The schools know it. They are selling degrees that cost 6 figures knowing there's no market. There is no market directly because of the schools. The schools are actively, knowing, overselling a product, that is worthless. Sounds criminal? Sounds like Fraud? Remember the new lawyer who sued her school because she couldn't get a job?

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Rx Veteran in Maryland

21 months ago

John in London, Ontario said: I graduated in 2011, did all the required examinations and got my qualifications and jurisprudence exam in Ontario and I still haven't found an internship and I live in a rural area. I want to get out of pharmacy, but I put so much effort, hard work and money into and I just don't know what to do anymore.

WOW, Canada also. Sigh. Suggest looking at health care growth areas.
Some retraining would allow you to become any thing you wanted.
I was thinking about this. Don't believe what you read. Ask providers.
Look for real growth or ways to use both degrees. Toxicology?

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fawad in Hoboken, New Jersey

20 months ago

every notice how every pharmacist in rite aid cvs etc in the NJ area seems to have graduated outside the USA? why? because they will work for less. I have a proposal. Make licensing hard. I went to medical school in the carribean , The same thing happens for residencies. You have tons of indians who try to make to america to compete for limted IMG spots. In medicine first preference goes to US grads hands down regardless of scores. I know my little brother went to a DO school had way lower scores and matched immediately. Whereas I applied to 200 programs and got 10 interviews. Anyway , in medicine you have a CS exam. A communication skills exams basically a 12 patient practical. This weeds outs a lot of foreigners. They have somehting similiar in canada . Introduce the same here. I bet you half those guys with thick accents and awful interpersonal skills will be gone

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fawad in Hoboken, New Jersey

20 months ago

ps im a Rutgers Pharmacy grad....i saw this coming way back when I was at rite aid.....i went to a carribean medical school which was a mistake as i have a repeat attempt on a Step 2 cs but overall I had the right idea....should have went to a DO school

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fawad in Hoboken, New Jersey

20 months ago

i mean to say there is a communication skill exams for pharmacists in canada.....maybe something similiar should be introduced here....it will reduce the number of people getting licensed and will definitely knock out some of those foreign phamracists

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fawad in Hoboken, New Jersey

20 months ago

since i didnt match into a medical residency (my fault alone because of my attempts on usmle step 2 cs) i was forced to look for a pharmacist job. unfortunately i burned some bridges with all the chains which was not smart(thats how i paid med sch)i kept on leaving and going back as required to pay tuition for med sch. anyway after continuous job seach and i mean continuurs.....i would sit for hours on indeed apply everywhere....talk to recruiters....i luckily found a job in a rural area......as i was studying for step 2 cs i was temping at different hospitals in nyc...and i realized i was lucky to get the temp jobs as recent grads couldnt fined one....i was also tempiing at target for rph on the go......this itself i thought it was a step down for me as always ive been a pharmacy manager at rite for years before i went to med ssh....realized i was lucky to get that ....a target intern wanted rphonthegos number!!!! what the hell!!!!...this is how bad it is....i have hospital temping experience at big name nyc hsopitals and i applied for a full time job in iowa for a staff rph position and the recruiter told me they didnt want to interview as i didnt have enough experience HELLO ....I WORKED at NYU and your podunk hospital in bumblefuck IOWA says im no good....when a podunk hospital in Iowa can say no to someone with NYU BIMC MMSKC experience ,,,,,and that wastn it .....a hospital in vermont ....wanted a 12 questionaire for a staff pharmacist position !!!!!! i got knocked out at stage 2 ....i guess i was too honest...anyway i found a clinical pharmacist position finally.....but even then the pay is lower than it should be and this place is really rural...there are amish people who live there...it is bad

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fawad in Hoboken, New Jersey

20 months ago

Rx Veteran in Maryland said: WOW, Canada also. Sigh. Suggest looking at health care growth areas.
Some retraining would allow you to become any thing you wanted.
I was thinking about this. Don't believe what you read. Ask providers.
Look for real growth or ways to use both degrees. Toxicology?

note she said internship its way harder to get licensed its not nabplex and the law exam its a MCQ plus a cs type clinical plus the law....once u do find the internship u will get the job....im a big favor in economic nationalism

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MichaelPharmD in New Jersey

20 months ago

FYI, for all those wondering, I never recovered into a fulltime Pharmacist job.

Per diem hours all disappeared as well. All pharmacies started hiring more and more per diem pharmacists and not any fulltime or part-time. This was to avoid paying benefits to save on budget. Now all he per diem people compete very hard for any hours. We cannot get any.

I am now enrolled in Nursing school. I will eventually leave pharmacy profession permanently. It was the biggest mistake I ever made. So many years wasted, lost income, acquired debt, ETC. I hope all undergraduates and current pharmacy students see these posts.

I am a USA born citizen that went to a good US pharmacy school. I am unable to find work as a pharmacist and support my family.

AVOID THIS FIELD!

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nancypharmd84 in Baltimore, Maryland

20 months ago

I was wondering about you! I started reading all the way back like 18 months ago. I was really hoping to see a happy ending to your story. When people hear I'm a pharmacist they think "easy street". No one believes I cannot find a job, they think I am lazy and enjoy staying at home all day. Good Luck with your nursing career. I tell everyone I know especially foreign graduates to stay where they come from. When I tell people I want to go back to dentistry school they laugh. I wish things were better.

MichaelPharmD in New Jersey said: FYI, for all those wondering, I never recovered into a fulltime Pharmacist job.

Per diem hours all disappeared as well. All pharmacies started hiring more and more per diem pharmacists and not any fulltime or part-time. This was to avoid paying benefits to save on budget. Now all he per diem people compete very hard for any hours. We cannot get any.

I am now enrolled in Nursing school. I will eventually leave pharmacy profession permanently. It was the biggest mistake I ever made. So many years wasted, lost income, acquired debt, ETC. I hope all undergraduates and current pharmacy students see these posts.

I am a USA born citizen that went to a good US pharmacy school. I am unable to find work as a pharmacist and support my family.

AVOID THIS FIELD!

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nancypharmd84 in Baltimore, Maryland

20 months ago

Fawad,I don't think referring to foreigners in a derogatory way is appropriate or helps your situation at all. From your posts it seems your grammar isn't perfect yourself. I'm sensing your not as American as apple pie yourself. America is a "melting pot", its the land of opportunity, and everyone just wants a piece of the "american dream". Speaking from experience, my husband is a resident, and he is a foreign graduate, and the CS exam doesn't filter as much of the English as you would think. There are plenty of people that don't speak very good English. So, if these foreign graduates are still beating Caribbean schools for residency spots, what does that tell you? I'll tell you, it means that they are much more qualified, and their medical knowledge is a lot better than Caribbean School Graduates. In my opinion Caribbean Schools are a mistake and just a scam to make money. They don't provide a sufficient education to prepare their students for residency. Time and time again Caribbean graduates are being fired after their first year of residency.

fawad in Hoboken, New Jersey said: every notice how every pharmacist in rite aid cvs etc in the NJ area seems to have graduated outside the USA? why? because they will work for less. I have a proposal. Make licensing hard. I went to medical school in the carribean , The same thing happens for residencies. You have tons of indians who try to make to america to compete for limted IMG spots. In medicine first preference goes to US grads hands down regardless of scores. I know my little brother went to a DO school had way lower scores and matched immediately. Whereas I applied to 200 programs and got 10 interviews. Anyway , in medicine you have a CS exam. A communication skills exams basically a 12 patient practical. This weeds outs a lot of foreigners. They have somehting similiar in canada . Introduce the same here. I bet you half those guys with thick accents and awful interpersonal skills will be gone

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nancypharmd84 in Baltimore, Maryland

20 months ago

I am a pharmacist and have been looking for a job for about a year, after reading these posts I realize I'm not alone. I have had a few phone interviews, but afterwards I don't get the job due to lack of experience. How can you get experience if you need experience to get experience. My suggestion to those of you who can afford it, is to volunteer at a hospital. I did that for my internship hours, and sure enough after a lot of hard work (3 months at 40 hours per week) I was given a job. Unfortunately, I had to move shortly after becoming a licensed pharmacist , and lost any chance of getting a position as a pharmacist at that hospital. Now, I may be moving again and some states (NY,LA,etc.) are saying I'm not eligible for Reciprocity due to lack of 1 year of experience as a pharmacist. In order to become licensed again I have to retake the NAPLEX,MPJE,and for NY a compounding exam! Just, so I can waste a year studying only to not find a job again. The reason I cannot volunteer is because I cant afford to put my two year old in a daycare for 1600/month! The US isn't what it used to be.

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MichaelPharmD in New Jersey

19 months ago

Nancy,

Most hospitals cannot have you volunteer as a pharmacist or in any healthcare field. It is a liability issue. The insurance does not cover "nonemployees". If a mistake happens and they had a non-employee pharmacist working, it is a big problem. Even if you are in the room where an error occurs, lawyers will ask why a non-employed pharmacist is in the room and may make a case stating the error occurred for that reason.

You truly are stuck.

Nancy, start a daycare business. You will be with your kids and make money.

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Todd in Madison Heights, Michigan

19 months ago

Ayah said: And we to are considering returning to school. A big part of me believes the same thing might happen again so schools my last resort.

When people say that it sends shivers up my back. It reminds me of someone that is dying of thirst in the ocean and drinks salt water only to get more thirsty.

Going back to school is drinking more salt water.

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MichaelPharmD in New Jersey

19 months ago

Keith,

If you are earning money outside of pharmacy, you have no reason to return to school.

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Dontbelieveit in Crazyhorse, Indiana

19 months ago

nancypharmd84 in Baltimore, Maryland said: I was wondering about you! I started reading all the way back like 18 months ago. I was really hoping to see a happy ending to your story. When people hear I'm a pharmacist they think "easy street". No one believes I cannot find a job, they think I am lazy and enjoy staying at home all day. Good Luck with your nursing career. I tell everyone I know especially foreign graduates to stay where they come from. When I tell people I want to go back to dentistry school they laugh. I wish things were better.

Everyone thinks "the medical field" is crawling with jobs, this must come from the schools and the media.
Saturating any field allows employers to lower wages and to have their pick of employees.
I agree about the foreigners. Our nation isn't protecting its citizens at all.

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Dontbelieveit in Crazyhorse, Indiana

19 months ago

Pharmacist-Keith in Louisville, Kentucky said: The internal debate I am having is if one of those degrees will enhance my income or if the pursuit of those degrees will actually stymie my income growth by keeping me "out of the game" longer. I had the same decision in pharmacy school when it came to deciding to stay an extra year for my PharmaD or go straight into practice. I know back then I made the right decision because it would have cost me an extra 20K to stay in school and I would have lost $70k for a year salary. The PharmD would not have increased my income, retail could have cared less about the degree and hospitals paid less.

Career wise I should have gotten my BS Pharm, and worked retail as I did but continued school on a part time basis, pursing an MBA or MHA then moving up the food chain. But at the peak of the shortage making 120K plus double time for over time the money coming in was just too good to pass up.

I am going to continue on my current course of replacing my pharmacist income doing what I am doing now. I am more happy and feel more rewarded and appreciated than I ever felt in pharmacy. As far as continuing education, I am joining Toastmasters and honing my public speaking skills because that will have a much more immediate impact on my income.

Wish you much luck.

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Dontbelieveit in Crazyhorse, Indiana

19 months ago

Pharmacist-Keith in Louisville, Kentucky said: The healthcare industry is crazy right now. Schools in all disciplines have popped up everywhere. Pharmacy is not the only one facing this problem. Just look around, they are cranking out pharmacy techs, nursing assistants, pt assistants, you name it and the colleges, non-profit and for-profit, are putting people out as fast as they can while the college loan money is still available. I really feel we will be seeing a college bubble in the near future as more and more people graduate and can't find jobs. If you have an entrepreneurial spirit and can think outside of the box then you will survive and thrive. See my previous post about what I have done. I will be making my mark outside of pharmacy but still in wellness. See: Your Rx 4 Health dot info to see what one of my colleagues, Pharmacist Ben Fuchs, ia doing and is teaching me to do as well.

They've done this to nursing, respiratory tech, medical imaging, pt, and more.
Little shopping center schools saturating the job markets and employers love it.

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sahith in Hyderabad, India

19 months ago

rupa in Reston, Virginia said: Michael i have been looking for pharmacist job for 2 years now.

hi rupa je, i am sahith from India Andrapradesh. i am doing my pharm d 6th yr. i want to settle in us. i am planning for MS. so that i can come over there and go for naplex. I donno anything about pharmacy in US. I need ur giidance pls...
Rajalingam.sahith@gmail.com

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Beth in Plano in Plano, Texas

19 months ago

Read Dailyjobcuts.com about all the hospital layoffs across the USA.

ObamaCare will only hurt healthcare.

www.dailyjobcuts.com

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Pharmacy Services in Lanham, Maryland

15 months ago

An Independent Pharmacy opening a new location in Clinton, MD is seeking a Pharmacist to start employment immediately. If interested please send resume to pharmacyservices.maryland@gmail.com

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Mary Catherine in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

12 months ago

MichaelPharmD in New Jersey said: I have been active on this site for a while. I have been looking for pharmacy work for over a year. I was able to get per diem but they only give me one shift a month.

I have a PharmD, residency, certifications, and experience; however, jobs are not out there. I have spoken to recruiters that tell me they do not have anything.

I search on Indeed and see RPHontheGo spamming fake positions which makes it really hard to find anything.

I have applied to every job I see on indeed in a 200 mile radius along with being licensed in more than one state. Can anyone offer any sort of advice? I call to followup on my submitted resumes but the company recruiters tell me the match-up qualifications and pass on resumes.

I have applied for jobs only to be denied 4 hours later telling me the job is already filled. Are most of these posted jobs just formalities of Human Resources to post a position? I am really trying to find anything I can. I apply to every job I see posted the day it is posted. I spend about 4 hours a day looking for jobs. I know local pharmacists who also trying to help out but they even said that there are no jobs being created.

I am in NJ and licensed in another state as well.

Please any helpful advice would be appreciated. This is destroying my resume, my confidence, and my support of this profession. I have been a pharmacist for a number of years. I have emailed posts on craigslist offering to work for less than anyone else.

Dear MichaelPharmD,
I'm sorry about your situation and others. I have been a hospital parmacist for almost 30 yrs. Twenty were spent at a pediatric hosp. in Phila. I had to take a break for family issues for a few years and found it's impossible to find even per diem positions.
Seeing that other pharmacists in other states are also in this situation was a surprise.
Good Luck to all

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2010 Grad_NJ PharmD in New Jersey

11 months ago

Hi Michael and everyone,

I've been following this post and meaning to write my story because (trust me) it effn blows.
Been unemployed as a pharmacist for over a year. Have previous experience at Walgreens, a medical communications agency in NYC, Pfizer, and a community pharmacy. I'll admit when i first graduated i had been suckered into the 'Pharmacy is Rainbows amd Butterflies' crap, and actually had career aspirations within the pharmaceutical industry (dumb@$$ that i was). After about 4 years, 1000+ job applications, more debt than i started with, countless collections calls, and an absolutely ruined credit score - im pretty surethat (and any other dreams) are shot to effn hell.

Not only did i shoot myself in the foot by pursuing this ridiculous profession, but i was also told to give the industry a shot. AFTER accepting a contract position at pfizer, I was told theyre unable to extend contracts beyond one year AND unable to ever hire them on permanently (this rule is specific to Pfizer only, of course w my luck).

I have been looking ever since my contract expired about 14 months ago. I dont have enough experience for other industry positions (or so ive been told after ~47 interviews) and its absolutely impossible to just waltz into retail in the northeast US region. They typically don't hire you unless you've worked for them as an intern and then MAYBE you'll be lucky to get 30hrs/week. I dont have hospital experience and/or a residency.

I basically put all my marbles into the pharmaceutical aspect and have literally wiped out ALL of my assests this past year. I have even tried applying to regular non pharmacist jobs, even administrative. I dont qualify for reciprocity as i dont have thr 1+yrs of practicing pharmacy.i refuse to spend more money than i have attempting to retake the naplex and undoubtedly failing.

I'm bitter, broke, in debt, and absolutely depressed out of my mind at the way this career unfolded. Whats

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2010 Grad_NJ PharmD in New Jersey

11 months ago

What's worse is that now the job market seems to just been adding on more and more of these contact positions. Which really just put all your chances of having a successful career into the hands of sheer luck and timing. These contact roles falsely elevate the economy, hinder growth, provide horrible (if any) benefits, and you're essentially a 'Dr.' working a conveniently disposable temp.

The best part?? - - just recently learned of a recent graduate (from a new UNACCREDITED pharmacy school) , serve one year contract position and then land a permanent MSL POSITION?! I'M SORRY BUT AREN'T MSLs SUPPOSED TO BE KNOWLEDGEABLE AND EXPERIENCED ENOUGH TO ENGAGE KOLS AND MDs?! This person hasn't even taken their boards, isn't even a registered pharmacist! And had no way of gauging his or her pharmaceutical knowledge bc the school isn't even ACCREDITED!!!!!

This 'profession' is sheer bull$h!t and dumb luck at this point. Good luck.

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UnemployedRXguy in Gaithersburg, Maryland

11 months ago

2010 Grad_NJ PharmD in New Jersey said: What's worse is that now the job market seems to just been adding on more and more of these contact positions. Which really just put all your chances of having a successful career into the hands of sheer luck and timing. These contact roles falsely elevate the economy, hinder growth, provide horrible (if any) benefits, and you're essentially a 'Dr.' working a conveniently disposable temp.

The best part?? - - just recently learned of a recent graduate (from a new UNACCREDITED pharmacy school) , serve one year contract position and then land a permanent MSL POSITION?! I'M SORRY BUT AREN'T MSLs SUPPOSED TO BE KNOWLEDGEABLE AND EXPERIENCED ENOUGH TO ENGAGE KOLS AND MDs?! This person hasn't even taken their boards, isn't even a registered pharmacist! And had no way of gauging his or her pharmaceutical knowledge bc the school isn't even ACCREDITED!!!!!

This 'profession' is sheer bull$h!t and dumb luck at this point. Good luck.

Tell me about it, I've been trying to find a job for the last four years. I've even had a interview at CVS (yeah, I'm that desperate) but got rejected for that.

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Angel in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

11 months ago

Run away from pharmD !!!!!!!!!!
If you really have passion about medication and good at science, study pharmaceutical science !!!!!!!!!
Get a phD then work for Johnson & Johnson, GSK, Pfizer etc make $150,000 a year ( i know someone who could not get accepted to pharmD program so she took this major until she got her PhD. Lucky her !!!!)
why ? Because each state produces about 300 to 1500 pharmacists per year and only about 15 PhD in pharmaceutical science a year. Isn't it ridiculous ???

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TL87 in Falmouth, Maine

10 months ago

rupa in Reston, Virginia said: I got my license in Dec 2010 and have been volunteering at a clinic. I am not sure if Pharm D alone is a good idea since specialization is important these days and the idea of owing loans and still not having a job is just scary.

QUOTE who="MichaelPharmD in New Jersey"]Wow, Rupa! That is very long. How long have you been a pharmacist? I should note that I graduated from pharmacy school in the USA and I am a naturalized american citizen.

My wife does not believe how difficult the situation is. I am thinking of going back to school. Any advice?

Hi. I also can't find a job. How did you get a volunteer position. I've applied to some charities with no luck. Do you have to a license for that location site that you're volunteering?

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lilly241 in Gilbert, South Carolina

10 months ago

MichaelPharmD in New Jersey said: FYI, for all those wondering, I never recovered into a fulltime Pharmacist job.

Per diem hours all disappeared as well. All pharmacies started hiring more and more per diem pharmacists and not any fulltime or part-time. This was to avoid paying benefits to save on budget. Now all he per diem people compete very hard for any hours. We cannot get any.

I am now enrolled in Nursing school. I will eventually leave pharmacy profession permanently. It was the biggest mistake I ever made. So many years wasted, lost income, acquired debt, ETC. I hope all undergraduates and current pharmacy students see these posts.

I am a USA born citizen that went to a good US pharmacy school. I am unable to find work as a pharmacist and support my family.

AVOID THIS FIELD!

Have you found a job yet?

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jobless in sc in Gilbert, South Carolina

10 months ago

I am unemployed pharmacist since last year-100's of applications and a few interviews, then I never hear anything. I never thought I would be in this situation; over 20 yrs of hospital experience and an RN license (which I am currently reapplying to the board to get a nursing job). Hospitals also look for the new grads and since SC now has FOUR pharmacy schools, I may never recover-my house will go on the market soon-and no spouse to fall back on. I SHOULD HAVE STAYED IN NURSING-pharmacy is a very unrewarding career, and I would advise anyone to go to nursing school,get masters and be a NP.

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newpharmd2014 in Buffalo, New York

9 months ago

jobless in sc in Gilbert, South Carolina said: I am unemployed pharmacist since last year-100's of applications and a few interviews, then I never hear anything. I never thought I would be in this situation; over 20 yrs of hospital experience and an RN license (which I am currently reapplying to the board to get a nursing job). Hospitals also look for the new grads and since SC now has FOUR pharmacy schools, I may never recover-my house will go on the market soon-and no spouse to fall back on. I SHOULD HAVE STAYED IN NURSING-pharmacy is a very unrewarding career, and I would advise anyone to go to nursing school,get masters and be a NP.

I just graduated as a pharmD and I am, unfortunately, also hunting for jobs as desperately as you all are. I guess I am not going to leave this club any time soon.

And you know what the irony is? There are 7 pharmacy schools in NY so SC in theory should have more opportunities. Stay away from NY, if you cherish your future.

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PrePharmStudent in Buffalo, New York

7 months ago

Hi newpharmD:

Did you graduate from University at Buffalo? I am considering going there for pharmacy school because of their reputation, but after reading this I am not sure if I should even consider the school, considering that Binghamton is opening up in 2017 and competition seems to just be getting worse. I know Buffalo is a very reputable school, and supposedly the majority of the 2014 graduates seemed to lock something up in the local area, according to the Dean. ("Supposedly")

Should I just go into dentistry or medicine?

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Miami/Arizona in Albuquerque, New Mexico

7 months ago

And you seriously believe what the dean told you? LMFAO

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Miami/Arizona in Albuquerque, New Mexico

7 months ago

Google, The Pharmacy School Bubble is About to Burst

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hardwrkrphNJ in New Brunswick, New Jersey

6 months ago

Look do not go to pharmacy school PLEASE SWITCH TO ANOTHER MAJOR STAT

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Donna in Philippines

6 months ago

Angel in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: Run away from pharmD !!!!!!!!!!
If you really have passion about medication and good at science, study pharmaceutical science !!!!!!!!!
Get a phD then work for Johnson & Johnson, GSK, Pfizer etc make $150,000 a year ( i know someone who could not get accepted to pharmD program so she took this major until she got her PhD. Lucky her !!!!)
why ? Because each state produces about 300 to 1500 pharmacists per year and only about 15 PhD in pharmaceutical science a year. Isn't it ridiculous ???

How many years does it take to get a phd? I'm a b.s. pharma foreign graduate

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Donna in Philippines

6 months ago

Wow. I didn't know the job market in US is this bad. I was actually planning to work there since I have relatives in california who know some people and might be able to pull a few strings. do you think i could get employed if i pursue higher education in US like PhD?

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jack in North Reading, Massachusetts

3 months ago

MichaelPharmD in New Jersey said: I have been active on this site for a while. I have been looking for pharmacy work for over a year. I was able to get per diem but they only give me one shift a month.

I have a PharmD, residency, certifications, and experience; however, jobs are not out there. I have spoken to recruiters that tell me they do not have anything.

I search on Indeed and see RPHontheGo spamming fake positions which makes it really hard to find anything.

I have applied to every job I see on indeed in a 200 mile radius along with being licensed in more than one state. Can anyone offer any sort of advice? I call to followup on my submitted resumes but the company recruiters tell me the match-up qualifications and pass on resumes.

I have applied for jobs only to be denied 4 hours later telling me the job is already filled. Are most of these posted jobs just formalities of Human Resources to post a position? I am really trying to find anything I can. I apply to every job I see posted the day it is posted. I spend about 4 hours a day looking for jobs. I know local pharmacists who also trying to help out but they even said that there are no jobs being created.

I am in NJ and licensed in another state as well.

Please any helpful advice would be appreciated. This is destroying my resume, my confidence, and my support of this profession. I have been a pharmacist for a number of years. I have emailed posts on craigslist offering to work for less than anyone else.

Each year there are about 7000 pharmacists retiring and we will be up to 15000 new pharmacists graduating. The job of being a pharmacist is being automated, both the dispensing and the clinical aspects. Prospects for pharmacists are not so good and probably won't improve until it is seen as a poor career choice by young people and much fewer people go into it. Find another career

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Distressed_PharmD in Glendale, California

3 months ago

Hi I'm in the same boat. I have 12 years experience, fluent in 5 languages- I've worked in a hospital setting for 4 years but was laid off when the hospital was bought out- I've also worked retail- I've been looking for a year now and any position that opens has 50 some applicants-

For those lucky employed pharmacists, this will affect you too- Pay will go down as more and more people like me are willing to be payed less and less to survive, I even applies as a tech to just get my foot in the door. All these schools pumping new grads are destroying our profession.

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I speak for pharmacists in franklin, New York

2 months ago

Hey to people who has posted and those reading the thread searching the internet to figure out if it is "just you". I don't think it is just you. Tell NABP...there is a problem and they are making it worse
www.change.org/p/national-associate-of-boards-of-pharmacy-nabp-do-not-allow-new-schools-of-pharmacy-to-open-until-there-is-a-market-correction-to-the-supply-and-demand-of-the-pharmacist?just_created=true

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Mehul in Holyoke, Massachusetts

2 months ago

rupa in Reston, Virginia said: Michael i have been looking for pharmacist job for 2 years now.

Where r u working now a days?

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Beyonce in San Ramon, California

2 months ago

i graduated from pharmacy school a few months ago and have been looking at hospital jobs and a lot of alternative healthcare roles and careers. It has been hard-hospital jobs are competitive and I'm applying to a lot of random non-pharmacy jobs. Non-pharmacy people are asking me why I'm looking at non-pharmacy jobs that pay a starting 60K instead of a 6 figure salary at CVS and tell me no place would hire a pharmacist knowing pharmacists are capable of a 120K salary. I was initially considering retail but so far doing everything to avoid retail at all costs. I did an internship for a bit and came home with major anxiety and even cried. I know who went in as retail pharmacists are doing something else because it's getting worse-no bathroom breaks, eating breaks, effect on mental & physical health. I already have a health condition and jus don't want to apply rigorously for a job I know I will most likely hate. I really would rather do anything else that starts less where I can eventually earn a decent amount and at least be assured that I can eat lunch and won't have mental exhaustion, even if it's not the greatest job in the world. I came to pharmacy school because I love healthcare and still do, but I realize that I'm not particular about just being a pharmacist-I'd be happy to be doing something beyond drug information and medication expertise in anything that has to do with health sciences + math.

But I wanna get a second opinion-am I stupid for looking into something else other than retail...knowing I can start with a 6 figure salary vs. trying out jobs that will pay much less, maybe even half. I came too far into the program to not graduate with this degree, but now that I have, I don't want to be stuck doing a job I don't want to do at all.

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