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celeste in Winona, Mississippi

59 months ago

Almostthesame situation said: I was accused of something that I did not do. But since I am an African-American living in a white suburb, my attorney told me that I couldn't win and that I would spend a yr or more in jail. I was offered a plea of a "deferred prosecution" which meant that if I did what the court asked me I wouldn't be prosecuted. I asked the lawyer several times if I would lose my current job and he adamantly denied that I would. I took the plea, lost my job within two months, lost my townhome because with that plea I couldn't even work at a Walgreens.

I am sorry about your situation I know how it feels and I send you prayers and hope that both situations change for both of us.

Thank you for your response. At least i'm not alone. thank you for responding. my prayers are with you also.

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celeste in Winona, Mississippi

59 months ago

Thank you so much for responding. I guess we're in the same boat. It is really hard, especially trying to convince people that you did not do what the background check reveals. I can even prove that i was in another state during the time of the alleged offense which is in a different state. but it does not matter. after being escorted off of numerous jobs, i've basically given up. thank you for responding, your email gives me some encouragement in knowing i'm not the only person in the world going through this. Identity theft basically kills any and every attempt at having a positive future. I do believe it is truely the most insidious, soul-destroying crime perpetrated upon an individual. It just stops you in your tracks. Your entire world ends at the moment someone uses your identity and commits a crime. I've lost my home, job, friends, my church and family members. And, you're unable to re-start your life, because that 'problem' follows you wherever you go, what ever you do. It does get extremely depressing at times, but I try, not very well, but i still try to trust that somehow, god will make a way for me to live. i will keep both of us in my prayer. thanks again for responding. keep in touch.

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im am not still a crook in Columbia, South Carolina

58 months ago

guess what the catch 22 is that if you have a record while on the job they keep you but if you get a record they dismiss you. you have persons on the job that commit big time crimes and they get to keep there jobs. give people a chance everyone does not stay a CROOK, they do change.

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Dewey Kearney in Glendale, Arizona

58 months ago

celeste in Winona, Mississippi said: Thank you so much for responding. I guess we're in the same boat. It is really hard, especially trying to convince people that you did not do what the background check reveals. I can even prove that i was in another state during the time of the alleged offense which is in a different state. but it does not matter. after being escorted off of numerous jobs, i've basically given up. thank you for responding, your email gives me some encouragement in knowing i'm not the only person in the world going through this. Identity theft basically kills any and every attempt at having a positive future. I do believe it is truely the most insidious, soul-destroying crime perpetrated upon an individual. It just stops you in your tracks. Your entire world ends at the moment someone uses your identity and commits a crime. I've lost my home, job, friends, my church and family members. And, you're unable to re-start your life, because that 'problem' follows you wherever you go, what ever you do. It does get extremely depressing at times, but I try, not very well, but i still try to trust that somehow, god will make a way for me to live. i will keep both of us in my prayer. thanks again for responding. keep in touch.

That has to be a horrible position to be in. Having never been there it's impossible to imagine, but since you were a member of a local church can't your pastor go to bat for you with some local business person and get them to give you a second chance. Everyone deserves that. It is strange that Christ offers forgiveness for our sins but we can't or won't do the same. My prayers are with you.
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mary in Tampa, Florida

58 months ago

Almostthesame situation said: I was accused of something that I did not do. But since I am an African-American living in a white suburb, my attorney told me that I couldn't win and that I would spend a yr or more in jail. I was offered a plea of a "deferred prosecution" which meant that if I did what the court asked me I wouldn't be prosecuted. I asked the lawyer several times if I would lose my current job and he adamantly denied that I would. I took the plea, lost my job within two months, lost my townhome because with that plea I couldn't even work at a Walgreens.

I am sorry about your situation I know how it feels and I send you prayers and hope that both situations change for both of us.

If I was you, I would go talk to another attorney. You may have grounds to have your eviction overturned for lack of legal assistance. You should have gotten six months probation, and dismissal within two years if you stayed out of trouble.

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David in Fort Worth, Texas

57 months ago

I CAN IMAGINE THE PAIN YOU ALL ARE GOING THROUGH MY BROTHAS AND SISTAS. HOWEVER, DO NOT FEEL THAT THE GRASS IS GREENER FOR US AFRICAN AMERICANS WHO DON'T HAVE A FELONY. I RECENTLY SERVED THIS GOOD OLD COUNTRY OF OURS FOR 8 YRS IN THE ARMY.THEN I GOT OUT, USED MY GI BILL MONEY TO GO TO COLLEGE AND GOT A VOCATIONAL DEGREE IN INDUSTRIAL MAINTENANCE TECHNOLOGY. PRETTY GOOD HA? A BROTHER SERVIED FOR 8 YRS THEN WENT TO COLLEGE AND IT IS STILL MEANINGLESS IN TODAYS JOB MARKET. ESPECIALLY OUT HERE IN TEXAS WHERE THE JOB MARKET STILL HAS MANY, MANY OPENINGS. UNFORTUNATELY, I WAS UNABLE TO TYPE EVERYTHING I WANTED TO EXPRESS DUE TO THIS WEBSITE BLOCKING MY BLOGS FROM POSTING AND THEY DID NOT CONTAIN ANY PROFANITY. FYI, FOR THE INDIVIDUAL(S) THAT CAUGHT A CHARGE FOR A CRIME THEY DID NOT DO, I TO BEEN DOWN THAT ROUTE. HOWEVER I HAD TO PAY FOR A DESCENT LAWYER JUST TO BEAT IT. BEING THAT IT AS A HE SAY SHE SAY TYPE SITUATION, MY LAWYER JUST PUSHED THE DA TO DISMISS THE CASE. AS A WORD OF ADVICE, PLEASE LEAVE THE POLICE OUT OF YOUR RELATIONSHIPS CAUSE THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE LAWS CAN AND WILL TAKE DOWN "INNOCENT" PEOPLE.

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Dan in Casper, Wyoming

56 months ago

David, whats the point in playing the race card, I'm a white FELON and the grass is definately not green. Thanks for your 8 years of service and I salute you fine sir!
I suppose just being a FELON is grounds for discrimination in itself. According to the EEOC it's perfectly permissable "related to job perfomance" what %#@(&!
It used to be and still is if you're lucky in todays job market to find ANY application that don't even ask the question "have you EVER been convicted of a Felony! The key word being "EVER".
What eveer happened to the ones that allowed some form of redemtion with words such as in the "past 3 years" or the more legal form "if job related", now replaced by "a conviction won't necisarily disqualify you" (but none the less your ap will be filed 86). part 2 follows...

Thanks for reading this spew.

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Dan in Casper, Wyoming

56 months ago

part 2 (200 limit?)

Just recently I took a gamble on just answering no to that question because I wanted the job... guess what I got it! Company vehicle, company credit card, and a small but nice office of my own. I'd finally made it! Just as fast it was gone. The company decided to start doing "background checks" and lucky me was the first one. Although I did not consent to having my past violated in that way, I had answered a question falsely and was fired immediately. Well, it wasn't "job related" and I'd done a great job for them but...
Having the Felon scar certainly does create just another "class" of discrimination that's legally protected and endorsed by the EEOC. Why is it not unpermissable after a "certain" period of time again (over 10 years in my case) really shouldn't matter and someone can continue their life with some sort of dignity again. I'm sure most of us do have something in the closet we'd like to keep there. Since FELONS are public record "and a concern" the profiteers that expose such information most likely take pride in a job well done!
Cheers to the information age... anyone ever read "Database Nation"? search for it online, I'm sure you'll enjoy the read.

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David in Fort Worth, Texas

56 months ago

Hello Dan. I didn't intentionally play the race card I was just responding to the nature of the previous blogs where the bloogers disclosed their race. I am actually half white and half black even though when it comes down to the nitty gritty I am black. LOL
Anyhow I DO believe that there are many discriminations in America, even in the job market or even the road to success. Its in more of a quite form now do to applicable laws. I do believe blacks (once again) have a disadvantage in certain parts of the job market especially with a growing hispanic population that in the middle to lower skilled fields which definetely even makes the odds worse for felons (All races) such as yourself. I do understand your pain and frustrations. Weeks ago I was thinking about how if I was a rich business owner, I would only hire adverse or diverse folks in more need then the typical such as disabled, handicapped, veterans, homeless and yes even felons as long as their situations are long settled and resolved. So I can imagine that if it is tough for guys without a criminal background to get a job, I can only imagine how it is for those who do.

I may tell you that out here in Texas they have a re-enrty program for gentlemen such as yourself. They are always at veterans job conventions( I guess a bunch of veterans must be felons). I heard a rep tell us in a meeting that supposeably they have "a secret list" of hundreds of employers that will hire ex offenders. However I am not endorsing the program as being genuine or to be such a great thing. I do feel that we can give ex offenders jobs, because they need to eat, feed families and have a roof over their head just like any other american. If illegals can get work, then ex offenders should be able to as well. I don't know your political preference, but in my opinion it is the capitalism that republicans believe in that is making many rich, but GREATLY affecting others who have slight sociable obstacles. Keep your head up!

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Lifer in Morristown, New Jersey

56 months ago

I was convicted of a felony in 1992, i have worked for fortune 500 companies since that day. I was laid off in 2006 and have not had a permanent job since. I have 20 years of verifiable work history.

We used to be able to lie until they changed the FCRA in 1998 with regards to obsolete information. It went from 7 years to life time reportabilty with regards to conviction.

I was able to lie and get two temp jobs, however the job sites that they send you to do their own background check. I was escorted off both jobs.

I have not had a job in 3 years. I have gained 35lbs and counting, I think of suicide daily. I'm almost 50 years old. I have given up. There is no hope for us.

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flailing in FL in Milton, Florida

56 months ago

Lifer in Morristown, New Jersey said: I was convicted of a felony in 1992, i have worked for fortune 500 companies since that day. I was laid off in 2006 and have not had a permanent job since. I have 20 years of verifiable work history.

We used to be able to lie until they changed the FCRA in 1998 with regards to obsolete information. It went from 7 years to life time reportabilty with regards to conviction.

I was able to lie and get two temp jobs, however the job sites that they send you to do their own background check. I was escorted off both jobs.

I have not had a job in 3 years. I have gained 35lbs and counting, I think of suicide daily. I'm almost 50 years old. I have given up. There is no hope for us.

Oh sweetie I read this and it almost broke my heart. I understand how you feel as I am a felon also. I was told my arrest warrant was lost and despite the fact I had completely turned my life around I was convicted. Unfortuantely in the meantime I had decided to go to college so now I have $40,000 in student loans for a degree that was rendered useless less than 6 months after receiving it. I've only had 1 job in my field since then (2004) but lost that when the management changed and instituted backgound checks. Since then I've only worked under the table or low paying temp jobs and have to move in with my mother. I have thought about giving up but I really belive a felon is about what I did, not who I am and I won't let it conquer me. Keep your head up.

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Lifer in Morristown, New Jersey

55 months ago

Dear Flailing in FL, Thank you for your gift of encouragement. It is very hard for me, I just don't know what to do. Every job that I have applied for in the last 3 years has turned me down do to this conviction. Thank God for unemployment and the extensions, however my unemployment will run out soon. All I see is homeless shelters or death. These are the only options I see for myself.

I have let the anger go. I don't talk about how unfair it is, It does not matter, education (BA), work history, (20) years, I haven't even gotten a speeding ticket in the last 20 years and I will wear the scarlet letter of F for the rest of my life.

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celeste in Greenwood, Mississippi

54 months ago

Dear Lifer in Morristown New Jersey. DO NOT GIVE UP HOPE!!! I also an nearing 50 and it scares me that I'm unable to get a regular job. Each month I have no idea where I'm going to get enough money from to buy my prescription medicines and life is really tough. I have no furniture, because I've sold everything for money over the years, even most of my clothes. My conviction was in 1995 for having one fake hundred dollar bill. That's all. I have not had trouble before nor since that time, but because of that conviction, I am consistently escorted off of jobs. I have been living like this now for more than 15 years. I know it's hard but you cannot give up on yourself. Last month I agreed to work at trying to shovel and clean animal poop from a pet store and the owner agreed to give me 80 cents per hour for a 10 hour work day. I tried it. I was viciously attacked by two of the animals and received 24 holes, (bite marks) all over my body; for 80 cents an hour, 10 hour work days, cleaning up animal poop. Now, I'm permanently scarred. I had no job, and no money for medical care and my wounds are still trying to heal. I know it's hard. We are all living it. But it's a new year. Be hopeful. I try to do whatever I can for money, like babysitting, typing, cooking and selling my food to friends and neighbors for money. It's all I can do. Don't give up! Just take one day, one hour, one minute at a time. Think about something you could do. Don't think about a job for now, just think about something you like to do. Then try to do it. Remember, there are people in third world very poor countries who have much less than we do and they don't give up so why should we give up. Don't give up. Find an inspirational story on the internet or in the newspaper or go to the library. Read about someone else's life and how they survived and be encouraged that you too will make it. Good to hear from you. You are not alone!

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celeste in Greenwood, Mississippi

54 months ago

Dewey Kearney in Glendale, Arizona said: That has to be a horrible position to be in. Having never been there it's impossible to imagine, but since you were a member of a local church can't your pastor go to bat for you with some local business person and get them to give you a second chance. Everyone deserves that. It is strange that Christ offers forgiveness for our sins but we can't or won't do the same. My prayers are with you.
Dewey Kearney
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Hi Dewey Kearney in Glendale Arizona, Thank you for your response. My local pastor has gone to bat for me, but he has been unsuccessful for me and others like me. The main reason is liability insurance. Basically, the way I understand it is if an employer hires a convicted felon, then the employer must pay regular insurance liability costs for all the employees, and an additional surety bond fee for each employed convicted felon. The employer will also lose any insurance coverage if their is a separate contract with outside agencies who do not cover insurance costs for having convicted felons on the jobsite. I have been told that this is because insurance companies state the employer of convicted felons must assume a higher risk factor when employing convicted felons should something go wrong with the company. I have also been told that even if you get a job with an employer, the companies that sub-contract with that employer will not cover any liability for ex convicts when they are on the jobsite because we are considered to be what is called 'high-risk employees'. Just like if a woman who is obviously in her 9th month of pregnancy goes to a job interview, she will undoubtedly not be hired, due to the assumed risk the employer sees that could result in having her on the jobsite. So, that's what some human resource personnel have told me. I don't know if it's true or not. But they just escort us off the job when that felony record pops up. Good luck.

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celeste in Greenwood, Mississippi

54 months ago

mary in Tampa, Florida said: If I was you, I would go talk to another attorney. You may have grounds to have your eviction overturned for lack of legal assistance. You should have gotten six months probation, and dismissal within two years if you stayed out of trouble.

Hi Mary in Tampa, thanks for your response. I have spoken to many attorneys to have my conviction expunged or overturned. In fact, the public defender who represented me said I would get 6 months and/or probation. However, I did not. I have been told the conviction cannot be overturned nor expunged from my record unless there was obvious and blatant disregard for my civil rights during sentencing. No attorney has been willing to take the case. I've been trying for 15 years. But thanks for your response. If you know of anything else, don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks.

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celeste in Greenwood, Mississippi

54 months ago

Ailyjah in Jackson, Mississippi said: name a company who you know for a fact does hire an ex felon in Mississippi, or (anywhere).

Hi Ailyjah in Jackson. I don't know of any companies who hire convicted felons in Mississippi. I have heard that the television producers of Law and Order routinely hire convicted felons as extras on the scenes when filming in New York, but you have to be in New York and work hard, and it is first come/first served, daily pay jobs. I've also heard there is a company in Colorado Springs, or somewhere in Colorado that makes glass windows, I think, but they only hire one or two ex cons temporarily. That's all I know. Let me know if you hear of anything else. Let me know if you found any work. Thanks.

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celeste in Greenwood, Mississippi

54 months ago

David in Fort Worth, Texas said: I CAN IMAGINE THE PAIN YOU ALL ARE GOING THROUGH MY BROTHAS AND SISTAS. HOWEVER, DO NOT FEEL THAT THE GRASS IS GREENER FOR US AFRICAN AMERICANS WHO DON'T HAVE A FELONY. I RECENTLY SERVED THIS GOOD OLD COUNTRY OF OURS FOR 8 YRS IN THE ARMY.THEN I GOT OUT, USED MY GI BILL MONEY TO GO TO COLLEGE AND GOT A VOCATIONAL DEGREE IN INDUSTRIAL MAINTENANCE TECHNOLOGY. PRETTY GOOD HA? A BROTHER SERVIED FOR 8 YRS THEN WENT TO COLLEGE AND IT IS STILL MEANINGLESS IN TODAYS JOB MARKET. ESPECIALLY OUT HERE IN TEXAS WHERE THE JOB MARKET STILL HAS MANY, MANY OPENINGS. UNFORTUNATELY, I WAS UNABLE TO TYPE EVERYTHING I WANTED TO EXPRESS DUE TO THIS WEBSITE BLOCKING MY BLOGS FROM POSTING AND THEY DID NOT CONTAIN ANY PROFANITY. FYI, FOR THE INDIVIDUAL(S) THAT CAUGHT A CHARGE FOR A CRIME THEY DID NOT DO, I TO BEEN DOWN THAT ROUTE. HOWEVER I HAD TO PAY FOR A DESCENT LAWYER JUST TO BEAT IT. BEING THAT IT AS A HE SAY SHE SAY TYPE SITUATION, MY LAWYER JUST PUSHED THE DA TO DISMISS THE CASE. AS A WORD OF ADVICE, PLEASE LEAVE THE POLICE OUT OF YOUR RELATIONSHIPS CAUSE THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE LAWS CAN AND WILL TAKE DOWN "INNOCENT" PEOPLE.

Hi David if Fort Worth, sounds like 8 years military and a college degree would be great for getting a job. Here in mississippi, military service seems like a gold mine for getting a job. Perhaps you should try moving to another area. Places that have higher concentrations of vets and returning vets usually have a really high respect for vets and hire them immediaately. I've seen vets get jobs here by just showing their discharge papers on the spot. Good luck.

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celeste in Greenwood, Mississippi

54 months ago

Dan in Casper, Wyoming said: part 2 (200 limit?)

Just recently I took a gamble on just answering no to that question because I wanted the job... guess what I got it! Company vehicle, company credit card, and a small but nice office of my own. I'd finally made it! Just as fast it was gone. The company decided to start doing "background checks" and lucky me was the first one. Although I did not consent to having my past violated in that way, I had answered a question falsely and was fired immediately. Well, it wasn't "job related" and I'd done a great job for them but...
Having the Felon scar certainly does create just another "class" of discrimination that's legally protected and endorsed by the EEOC. Why is it not unpermissable after a "certain" period of time again (over 10 years in my case) really shouldn't matter and someone can continue their life with some sort of dignity again. I'm sure most of us do have something in the closet we'd like to keep there. Since FELONS are public record "and a concern" the profiteers that expose such information most likely take pride in a job well done!
Cheers to the information age... anyone ever read "Database Nation"? search for it online, I'm sure you'll enjoy the read.


Hi Dan, I was told the anti terrorist laws from 9/11 allowed the job application to change their question from have you been convicted in the last number of years to have you EVER been convicted. That is what makes it impossible to get a job now. It seems the best thing for all of us to do is to find something we can do well, something we like to do, and try to make a business out of it. I like baking. I've bake a few cakes, people really like cakes, wedding cakes, birthday cakes, anniversary cakes, I might try opening a cake business. I have a friend, who loves working on cars. I was talking with them about their starting an auto repair garage. We have to just keep trying. I know it's hard, but don't give up.

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jsranchmn in rollog, Minnesota

53 months ago

Hmmm, doubt they are doing background checks to their employees in India. Our department was closed down and the jobs went overseas... That didn't feel good

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34758girl in Kissimmee, Florida

46 months ago

Kitty4038 in Gaston, South Carolina said: I agree 100%. I am shocked. I have two misdemeanors and learned the hard way you are guilty and it is almost impossible to prove your innocent. Free lawyers, there are none. Right to an attorney, yea if you got 2500o sitting around. Since I pleaded guilty to these two charges, the only convictions I ever had, I am 41, I have not been able to find a job. Not only that but employers can pull up all arrests, speeding tickets etc...about you, even if were found not guilty. Nice huh? it is illegal for them to use this info, but they do.

I moved to Fl, and I have a misdemeanor from SC, which can be expundged, but do not have the money. So, i wasn hoping that I can get a job here and I see a lot of places are hiring, so that's the main thing that's stoping me. Eventhough no one has contacted me about a job. my charge was over a yr ago for breach of trust with fraudulent intent. it was my first time and i did my pti and restitution and they said i can get expundged

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Gr8ful Soldier in Zion, Illinois

44 months ago

I worked was working for a church for years. When my 5th year of serving comes (3 weeks vacation benefit) I was told that they no longer need me because of the fact that they are having financial problems yet the Senior Pastor continues to have his big salary and just hire the son a one of the assistant pastor with slightly lower than his salary. So I was told to go and apply for unemployment. Surprisingly, I was told "I felt sorry for you because you are not going to get anything since you worked for non-profit organization. I look for jobs anywhere from job experiences I have an had college background but it is almost 3 months now and have not found a job. I had many interviews but promised to call me, that's all. So with many interviews but no help from unemployment, yet some of these undeserving citizens get unemployment benefits without even a working in any job at all in US.

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k>P in Charlotte, North Carolina

44 months ago

I too have a felony with is 5years old. I've have had some luck in finding jobs with small companies or family owned, you have to be willing to look in the phone book and call companies to see if they are in need of help. I have also done work under the table. I know how frustrating it is, because at this time I am on unemployment, I am blessed to receive it, however I need more to pay my bills. I want to give up all the time but I cant because I am a strong individual and will succeed eventually. God Bless you all in all that you do

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PetitionNOW in Irvington, New Jersey

40 months ago

I was caught in 2001 on conspiracy charges. I was the only convicted and they didn't even bother to find the others. I was 19 years old. 28 now. I regret my decision everyday because I'm stuck in fast foods or being a nanny. Even nanny jobs want background checks. I'm now married and my life has changed after my conviction. I pray that President Obama will help us Ex-Convicts. We all need a 2nd chance.

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PetitionNOW in Irvington, New Jersey

40 months ago

Lifer in Morristown, New Jersey said: Dear Flailing in FL, Thank you for your gift of encouragement. It is very hard for me, I just don't know what to do. Every job that I have applied for in the last 3 years has turned me down do to this conviction. Thank God for unemployment and the extensions, however my unemployment will run out soon. All I see is homeless shelters or death. These are the only options I see for myself.

I have let the anger go. I don't talk about how unfair it is, It does not matter, education (BA), work history, (20) years, I haven't even gotten a speeding ticket in the last 20 years and I will wear the scarlet letter of F for the rest of my life.

Morristown is a very expensive town to live in

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julia in Gaithersburg, Maryland

40 months ago

I was just offered a job and I have been looking for several YEARS....But before I can start working they want to do a background check...I do have a felony on my record. I made quite a few mistakes in the past that I have paid for and is still paying for...I am at a lost and dont know what to do...My sister has offered for me to use her SSN so I can pass the check...but I am not sure if that is the right thing to do I need to work I have 2 kids and plenty of bills....What do I do? Fill ou the form and have them reject me, put in the worng info and have it come back not a match or use my sisters info and maybe pass or maybe not?????

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Janet in North Hollywood, California

40 months ago

julia in Gaithersburg, Maryland said: I was just offered a job and I have been looking for several YEARS....But before I can start working they want to do a background check...I do have a felony on my record. I made quite a few mistakes in the past that I have paid for and is still paying for...I am at a lost and dont know what to do...My sister has offered for me to use her SSN so I can pass the check...but I am not sure if that is the right thing to do I need to work I have 2 kids and plenty of bills....What do I do? Fill ou the form and have them reject me, put in the worng info and have it come back not a match or use my sisters info and maybe pass or maybe not?????

Please do not use your sister's info. You will only make things worse if you are caught and although you need the money your children need you more. Try sitting down with the HR person and tell her the truth about what happened in the past. That you paid your dues and am looking for a break so you can take care of your children.

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talfhouse@yahoo.com in Apache Junction, Arizona

39 months ago

34758girl in Kissimmee, Florida said: I moved to Fl, and I have a misdemeanor from SC, which can be expundged, but do not have the money. So, i wasn hoping that I can get a job here and I see a lot of places are hiring, so that's the main thing that's stoping me. Eventhough no one has contacted me about a job. my charge was over a yr ago for breach of trust with fraudulent intent. it was my first time and i did my pti and restitution and they said i can get expundged

What does SC mean if you dont mind me asking and I heard you could not get anything expundged unless its a felony and its up to the judge but you can get 1 felony in a lifetime expunged Can you really get a misdemeaner expundged.

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Dee in Orlando, Florida

38 months ago

Lifer in Morristown, New Jersey said: I was convicted of a felony in 1992, i have worked for fortune 500 companies since that day. I was laid off in 2006 and have not had a permanent job since. I have 20 years of verifiable work history.

We used to be able to lie until they changed the FCRA in 1998 with regards to obsolete information. It went from 7 years to life time reportabilty with regards to conviction.

I was able to lie and get two temp jobs, however the job sites that they send you to do their own background check. I was escorted off both jobs.

I have not had a job in 3 years. I have gained 35lbs and counting, I think of suicide daily. I'm almost 50 years old. I have given up. There is no hope for us.

I know things have been difficult and its easy to loose hope when all your efforts produces nothing but giving up is the absolute worst thing you can do. Keep doing your best, keep giving it your all, do all that you can in faith and GOD will do what you can't.

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Dee in Orlando, Florida

38 months ago

I know things have been difficult and its easy to loose hope when all your efforts produces nothing but giving up is the absolute worst thing you can do. Keep doing your best, keep giving it your all, do all that you can in faith and GOD will do what you can't.

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Janet in Encino, California

37 months ago

Marianna in Williston, Florida said: Hey Ladies,
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Lifer in Morristown, New Jersey

37 months ago

Wow, I can't believe that I wrote this 1.5 years ago. @PetitionNOW, yes Morristown is expensive, I was born and raised here and a great deal of my family still lives here.

@Dee, thank you for your well wishes, however the only thing in my story that has changed is the fact that I have now gained over 100lbs. I have not heard one success story with anyone who has a felony. A friend of mine just got a job last week and yesterday he was let go because of his background. I cried as there is still no hope. I'm just trying to hold on.....

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Shea in Minneapolis, Minnesota

34 months ago

Just one question for those that actually did the crime? Why did you do it in the first place? We all have choices, it's up to us as to what choice we make. There were millions of times Id wish I could rob a bank and get away with it or something because I needed money badly, but I knew it was wrong so I chose not to.
One thing I do agree with, we all make mistakes and I think after so many years have passed and you have stayed under the radar, I think employers should give you another chance.
This background thing started because of one person that committed a horrible crime yrs ago, got a job and committed the same crime while at his new job to one of the employees. An employer has to protect the employees.

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FelonInPhx in Phoenix, Arizona

33 months ago

You guys, do NOT give up! There is up. First, I want to respond to Shea in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Some people did not commit a crime. I was convicted of credit card theft (Felony) because while I was out of the country, my roommate was committing credit card fraud and had a notebook full of credit cards (she was a fraud investigator for a bank) and was ordering items from a computer that was shared. I wasn't even in the United States when she did this! However, because everybody on the lease was convicted because we all should have known. /shrugs. That's the law. I couldn't have known and I doubt our other roommate knew but what can a person do? I have to own up to the fact that I am a poor judge of character. I have paid the restitution and now live with a blemish on my record. For life. Arizona does not allow expungements. Que sera sera. Nothing I can do about it. I know I am honest and I am a very hard worker. I would never do anything to jeopardize my employer, my coworkers and the home I have built for my daughter.

With that being said, do not give up! I have remained consistently employed for the last 9 years even with my felony. I have never worked for a large or even medium sized company. I have worked for smaller companies and in low level positions. I know that i will never move up, I am ok with this. I have worked as an inbound customer service rep, answering service customer service and most recently, I have been a referral coordinator for a doctor's office. I love my job, I love helping patients out and I love having a job. Hang in there!!! Just be honest and these smaller companies will work with you! I also wait tables part time and I also have a part time portrait photography business.

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anginfla in Cleveland, Ohio

29 months ago

I know what you are saying. I have had many years of experience in banking and even worked for a global bank. My felony was over 18 yrs ago and it still haunts me to this day. My exhusband was transferred around alot and so I had to change jobs when we were moved. After I left the bank, it has been next to impossible to get a decent paying job anywhere. I was happy to get a management position at a dollar store for 9.25 an hour when I found out their background check only went back 7 yrs. But now that I am divorced and on my own, I cannot live on 9.25 an hour but make too much to get food stamps or any kind of assistance with rent or utilities so I am trapped. I cant get a job in my field and like you, my degree is useless because of a mishap that happened 18yrs ago while defending myself from being beaten. (Her hand was caught in a steel door and it tore off part of her finger....I got 3yrs in prison and she got nothing for trying to break in.) I still dont think its fair. And since I dont have money to live on, I had a traffic ticket that I couldnt pay so they suspended my license. Got caught driving on a suspended which in Ohio is a criminal offense and so now I cant even get the record expunged or sealed because of the DUS. Its a way that the system holds you down and keeps you down. Im thankful I have a job even if it sucks but I wish I could do better. Its been 18yrs when does a second chance come along??????

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Blue in Joliet, Illinois

29 months ago

"Weeks ago I was thinking about how if I was a rich business owner, I would only hire adverse or diverse folks in more need then the typical such as disabled, handicapped, veterans, homeless and yes even felons as long as their situations are long settled and resolved. So I can imagine that if it is tough for guys without a criminal background to get a job, I can only imagine how it is for those who do." "If illegals can get work, then ex offenders should be able to as well."

Man did you hit it on the head with these statements. I am a million times the worker of everybody else, but because so long ago, someone I knew ran around setting everybody up, I got hit too, but I was just a middle man (woman). I have a felony that makes me look like a drug dealer. I can only possibly work where there is hundreds of mexicans because they don't run background checks all the time. But, I still get hit, and fired, but an immigrant who doesn't even have papers will keep their job, and send their money out of the economy, further plummeting ti into the ground because the money being made here is supporting other countries, and other people where it is cheaper to live because it's so poor. I can't wait until I become successful because I'll only hire AMERICANS.

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DATHRILLZ in Saint Paul, Minnesota

29 months ago

PRAY, HOLD ON. CHANGE IS COMING.

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Pilar in Houston, Texas

28 months ago

celeste in Greenwood, Mississippi said: Hi Dan, I was told the anti terrorist laws from 9/11 allowed the job application to change their question from have you been convicted in the last number of years to have you EVER been convicted. That is what makes it impossible to get a job now. It seems the best thing for all of us to do is to find something we can do well, something we like to do, and try to make a business out of it. I like baking. I've bake a few cakes, people really like cakes, wedding cakes, birthday cakes, anniversary cakes, I might try opening a cake business. I have a friend, who loves working on cars. I was talking with them about their starting an auto repair garage. We have to just keep trying. I know it's hard, but don't give up.

CELESTE EN GREENWOOD, MISSISSIPPI,I am agree with what you said.
I am marry with an ex-convicted felony for almost 3 years, i believe that everybody deserves a second chance. I am a immigrant and before i get my legal status in the USA was hard to find a job, but not as hard as has being for my husband, after many attempts we got to the conclusion that the only way for him to be able to work is to open his own business,to make long story short... he starts a new business (not knowing how to repair a thing) buying used, but in fear condition washers and dryers trough Crag-list or other sources repaired and cleansed them and sell them back for little more, he did this for a while, then he started his own appliance repair company, learning from YouTube videos, some books at the library, etc...he did not went to school for this. Is working... it takes time... but if you want to be success... you can do it! until today... he is being helping me to pay bills, he is not the only one,,, his best friend is doing it to. cheer up! G-d is with all of us! IS NOT EASY... BUT IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE. =)

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sadinnc in Raleigh, North Carolina

28 months ago

Why even let people who commit felonies out of prison? There is no life after you pay your time.

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anginfla in Cleveland, Ohio

28 months ago

My felony was 17 yrs ago and it is still holding me back to a point. I am working right now and it really isnt where I would like to be since my background is in banking. (I will never be able to get another banking job since they fingerprint). But what I can tell you is that there are companies out there that only go back a certain number of years on their application. That also means that their background check only goes back that far. Stay away from ones that say, "Have you ever....." and look for the ones that say, "in the past x number of years....". You WILL get a job. I did.

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Gator in Kingsland, Georgia

28 months ago

Just lie on the app. Most corps. are too cheap and want every little bit of profit they can find.

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zeelani in Washington, District of Columbia

28 months ago

Ok, i know this is off topic but does anybody know how i can start my own thread on the forums page?

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Glory ann in Davis, California

28 months ago

celeste in Winona, Mississippi said: Thank you for your response. At least i'm not alone. thank you for responding. my prayers are with you also.

Let me tell you something there are ways to discuss your criminal backround and still put forth the professionalism that these employers seem to want. If you have to do a backround check for any position make sure you mark on your application that you are a felon and that you are more thatn willing to discuss the details upon interview, not only does it save you from telling the proverbial lie but it peeks their interest, then while you are bieng interviewed tell them that despite the fact that you made some bad decisions in your past you have successfully completed your mandatory obligation.and that not only did you pay your debt to society but now that you have they may be eligible if they hire you for the W.O.T.C. tax credit and you are able to be bonded for up to a year by the state,also that they may recieve whats called a re-pay credit for your firt year of employment ,by that I mean they can recieve up to 45% of your first years wages paid for them to you by the state.I am an ex-Con and I have had these same troubles as you guys I just decided to research this very subject with several state and county labor and Board of prison officials and thats what I found out IT IS STATE MANDATED that as long as you are doing what your are supposed to for Probation/Parole that these resources are available for you to give the potential employers a reason to want to hire you. Its Called here in California " The California new-start Program"

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Lea-Ann in Spruce Grove, Alberta

27 months ago

If I have no theft charges and no outstanding fines will I pass a cimmnel check?

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Sheri Wanless in Apple Valley, Minnesota

27 months ago

Working in HR and Payroll the people that usually fail the test do have a criminal background as well
as being tested positive for drugs once your new company sends you to do your drug test.

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Sheri Wanless in Apple Valley, Minnesota

27 months ago

Dan in Casper, Wyoming said: part 2 (200 limit?)

Just recently I took a gamble on just answering no to that question because I wanted the job... guess what I got it! Company vehicle, company credit card, and a small but nice office of my own. I'd finally made it! Just as fast it was gone. The company decided to start doing "background checks" and lucky me was the first one. Although I did not consent to having my past violated in that way, I had answered a question falsely and was fired immediately. Well, it wasn't "job related" and I'd done a great job for them but...
Having the Felon scar certainly does create just another "class" of discrimination that's legally protected and endorsed by the EEOC. Why is it not unpermissable after a "certain" period of time again (over 10 years in my case) really shouldn't matter and someone can continue their life with some sort of dignity again. I'm sure most of us do have something in the closet we'd like to keep there. Since FELONS are public record "and a concern" the profiteers that expose such information most likely take pride in a job well done!
Cheers to the information age... anyone ever read "Database Nation"? search for it online, I'm sure you'll enjoy the read.

Never, ever say you do not have a felon when you do because if you say you do not and they decide to run the report, you are now in a situation where you have a felon and you also lied on a document. Double whammy. The same for your education. If you do not have a degree where the job requires one, dont say you do. They will go all the way back to Jr Hg if need be.

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HR Girl in Uniontown, Ohio

27 months ago

Shea in Minneapolis, Minnesota said: Just one question for those that actually did the crime? Why did you do it in the first place? We all have choices, it's up to us as to what choice we make. There were millions of times Id wish I could rob a bank and get away with it or something because I needed money badly, but I knew it was wrong so I chose not to.
One thing I do agree with, we all make mistakes and I think after so many years have passed and you have stayed under the radar, I think employers should give you another chance.
This background thing started because of one person that committed a horrible crime yrs ago, got a job and committed the same crime while at his new job to one of the employees. An employer has to protect the employees.

I get so frustrate reading these posts but I am in the same boat. I thought if I went back to school obtained a Masters, got certified in HR my two feloney convictions from 1997 wouldn't matter. Boy was I wrong. I feel I let myself and my family down.

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suparpost in Eagle, Idaho

27 months ago

not all companies do background checks. I have 2 misdemeanors and lost my previous job when they found out. i lost my home, had to move, had to live with family for awhile and then i applied for the job i have now...because i was desperate and down to my last $20. They hired me...and didn't do a background check. I'm making $50k + a year and am soooooo thank ful. I have 8 more months and i can have my records expunged and hopefully that will set me free. There are some areas that do not do background checks..constructions is one, some smaller privately owned companies don't. I understand your pain, i was too suicidal, had given up all hope and pretty much decided i was going to be homeless. Check with the local employment office, some cities have programs for felons to get back to work. I wish you all luck and I truly do know where each of you are..I've been there...

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Richburg in Summerville, South Carolina

25 months ago

Here's one solution guys and girls. The next step is to get a trade of skill of any sort, preferably one thats in good standing with the economy. Become self efficiant and start your own business. Homes,auto,beauty, health, all are good fields. Once this happens to you, the best i can tell you is that you are now self employed ppl. small business owners can make much more than any job can offer you. Its worth a try and i wish you all luck....

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Dave in Minneapolis, Minnesota

24 months ago

I don't even have a felony and I can't get a job. In 2007 I pled guilty to a 3rd degree Felony Assault and I was given a stay of imposition. I was discharged from probation in 2010 and the state of Minnesota sent me a letter saying that my felony was now reduced to a misdemeanor. The problem is when employers do a background check, FELONY is displayed all over the page. In small print lost in the middle it says something like conviction deemed a misdemeanor. All employers see is felony plastered everywhere and I'm done. I've lost about a dozen high paying jobs with benefits over the past 2 months.

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tweetay in Las Vegas, Nevada

23 months ago

Lea-Ann in Spruce Grove, Alberta said: If I have no theft charges and no outstanding fines will I pass a cimmnel check?

I have nothing on my record but Domestic Battery in 2007 which haunts me to this day and has stopped me from being hired here in Nevada. I only have the battery because my husband pressed charges against me when I was defending myself to him and I plead guilty to get out of jail so I could go back to work at my new job because he was not working and if I was to lose my new job we would have been homeless with kids... now I cannot even get a customer service rep job in a call center... I mean what does domestic battery (one only) have to do with my experience in customer service??

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