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Dave Wale in Alma, Michigan

83 months ago

Eric Thompson in Harrison Township, Michigan said: Hey,
I'm on the waiting list to go to training in Michigan, does anyone know how long that might be? I know they just finished one up, does anyone know when the next one is? How likely is it to be picked for this session of training?

I too have been waiting since March 2006. I have been told that there is a hold on hiring male officers. At this time women are being sent to training only. That is why I am considering moving out of state. 2+yrs on a waiting list...does nothing for me.

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David in Mount Pleasant, Michigan

82 months ago

What I mean by they dont want me because I am white is exactly that. This is what I was told by the recruitment division from the Michigan Department of Corrections on one of the many times I had called in the 2 1/2 years I have been waiting after passing the interview and physical test with flying colors. I am also a two time combat veteran where I served my country twice in combat. I also have a Crimanl Justice degree. None of that matters. Now I am moving to Tennessee because simply Michigan doesnt take care of their veterans. I have had more help from Tennessee veteran reps in 2 days than Michigan veteran reps in 2 1/2 years. Michigans veteran reps want veterans to scam government and claim a dissability. They said I needed to get on board with the PTSD claims because thats the new ones out there. First time I was told to claim Desert Storm Syndrome. I will leave the dissability claims for the veterans that trully have needs. I just wanted to support my family and now that I am sucking it up and driving on I will be able to do this in Tennessee. If you want the truth about who Michigan is hiring for prison guards call the recruitment division and ask for <name removed> maybe she will tell you the truth like she told me. The first vet rep from Michigan works who wanted me to claim Desert Storm Syndrome name was <name removed> I called him Wayne Weasel. The guy that wanted me to get on board with (PTSD)Post Traumatic Stress Dissorder name was <name removed>. Neither of these guys work for Michigan works anymore hopefully the next vet rep will actually help veterans and not try to turn them into turds. Tennessee here I come. Sad situation for Michigan veterans coming home from serving there country. It is to bad not everyone has the courage and strength. Shameful!

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David in Oak Ridge, Tennessee

80 months ago

David in Oak Ridge, Tennessee said: Fred,

I am with you brother, but you have to look at the names in here that are getting angry at my views! Amelia, B Tate I wonder why they would dissagree? Maybe because they thought OJ was innocent? Maybe because they are voting for Obama? Maybe because they are the ones benefiting from the reversed discrimination I suffer from. Or possibly all the above! Who knows but what I do know is I dont blame them for jumping at the opportunities that are handed to them. I am not angry with them! I am angry at Jennifer Granholm (governor)! Granholm is the liar!

Granholm was on our C-130 flight from Baghdad to Kuwait telling us how she supported the troops and I never realized it was just a photo opportunity for her. Silly me I should have known better than to believe a public official! Fred Tennessee is veteran friendly and the people here are outstanding! I miss my kids but at least I am not risking my life serving my country again just to have a job! Something B Tate and Amelia know nothing of I might add!

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amelia in Detroit, Michigan

80 months ago

Yeah, I may have. But explain how everyone but 15 people out of my academy had their degrees and over half of everyone in the academy had extensive military experience. There were people who served in multiple branches of the military, so don't even go there. Stop being so bitter that the state didn't want you. I can see why, I wouldn't hire you if my life depended on it.

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amelia in Detroit, Michigan

80 months ago

HA! Anyone who thinks OJ is innocent is the dumbest person in the world. And so what if I'm voting for Obama, who I vote for shouldn't concern you. And David, don't even talk to me about missing your kids because you had to go serve your country. My mother is a Marine, and she had to leave me and my sister for Saudi when I was a little girl so you have no idea the hurt I experienced. I bet you never had to wonder if your mother would make it back alive. But not only was my mother a marine, I had a father in the Navy, my grandpa was a green beret, and all my uncles were army, and my best friend is military police so don't you dare say I don't know what it's like.

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Sue in Lennon, Michigan

80 months ago

Amelia,
How much running is done in the academy? I have a knee that likes to act up after running. I am concerned that this can cause me a problem if I get in. Also, how long before you started the academy did you get notified that you were in?

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David in Oak Ridge, Tennessee

80 months ago

Amelia,

You wouldn't hire someone that served his country twice in combat during 2 wars? What does that say about the person you are? You say I am bitter? Keep milking the system baby!

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David in Oak Ridge, Tennessee

80 months ago

amelia in Detroit, Michigan said: HA! Anyone who thinks OJ is innocent is the dumbest person in the world. And so what if I'm voting for Obama, who I vote for shouldn't concern you. And David, don't even talk to me about missing your kids because you had to go serve your country. My mother is a Marine, and she had to leave me and my sister for Saudi when I was a little girl so you have no idea the hurt I experienced. I bet you never had to wonder if your mother would make it back alive. But not only was my mother a marine, I had a father in the Navy, my grandpa was a green beret, and all my uncles were army, and my best friend is military police so don't you dare say I don't know what it's like.

I had to go serve are you kidding me I volunteered as an American that doesnt milk the system sweety try again! Have you served? No and again I say you dont know what its like! But I am glad you have family or at least know people that have served their country again congratulations!

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David in Oak Ridge, Tennessee

80 months ago

Sue in Lennon, Michigan said: Amelia,
How much running is done in the academy? I have a knee that likes to act up after running. I am concerned that this can cause me a problem if I get in. Also, how long before you started the academy did you get notified that you were in?

Sue you shouldnt have a problem if you meet the same requirements Amelia has. As far as running they will work with you to get you up to speed just inform them of the issues you might have. They will work with you! "Girl Power"

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David in Oak Ridge, Tennessee

80 months ago

amelia in Detroit, Michigan said: Yeah, I may have. But explain how everyone but 15 people out of my academy had their degrees and over half of everyone in the academy had extensive military experience. There were people who served in multiple branches of the military, so don't even go there. Stop being so bitter that the state didn't want you. I can see why, I wouldn't hire you if my life depended on it.

I wasn't in your academy so I couldnt explain that to you. And as I said it wasnt that the state didnt want me it was that I am a white male and didnt fit their category.

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David in Oak Ridge, Tennessee

80 months ago

Alright everyone I am going to stop speaking my mind in here now simply because I do live in Tennessee and I really love this state. There is so many opportunities here for everyone including white males compared to Michigan which is none. I drive through the mountians everyday on my way to work instead of seeing empty manufacturing buildings, out of business stores and foreclosed homes. The economy here is way better with employment just about around every corner. Tennessee is a right to work state, Michigan is not maybe that is the reason the economy is better. Or maybe its just because they treat their veterans with the respect they've earned and don't have Jennifer Granholm as their governor. Who knows what the reasons are. But Amelia the main thing is there is a difference between right and wrong. And Michigan not respecting, honoring and helping veterans get employment over people who have never even served their country is sad, disgraceful, pathetic and shouldnt be tolerated. But then there would be people like you that would be out of employment. And forced to serve their country before getting any benefits that veterans should be getting themselves. And again Amelia I am not angry with you I am angry with the state I was born and raised in! I dont blame you for jumping at any opportunity you can get but just dont fool yourself! Now go calm the inmates down! And if you read previously throughout our correspondence you should know what that means!

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tate in Detroit, Michigan

80 months ago

David in Oak Ridge, Tennessee said: Granholm was on our C-130 flight from Baghdad to Kuwait telling us how she supported the troops and I never realized it was just a photo opportunity for her. Silly me I should have known better than to believe a public official! Fred Tennessee is veteran friendly and the people here are outstanding! I miss my kids but at least I am not risking my life serving my country again just to have a job! Something B Tate and Amelia know nothing of I might add!

I've served this country,probably for the same reason you did,I needed a job. However you are right, I've never served during a time of conflict, although my father is a totally disabled Korean war vet.
What makes you assume so much about people, maybe the reason you did not land a job was not only your lacking professional writing skills;just maybe you are to judgemental and hot headed, to work with a population of dangerous people.
I only mentioned your writing skills because there very poor punctuation. I thought you could handle me mentioning it to you.
Good luck to you and your family in Tenn.

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David in Oak Ridge, Tennessee

80 months ago

Well I didn't know I was writing a term paper in here to where my puctuation had to be up to par for you. I will try to do better for you next time B Tate or should I call you dog? As far as judgemental and hot headed I call it as I see it. I speak the truth and that is all I know like calling you a idiot. Like I said I am glad you and Amelia at least know people who have served in combat for our country. At least your not totally ignorant. Remember, grocery store bagger! Its in your future. Good luck with your career choice.

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David in Oak Ridge, Tennessee

79 months ago

Last week I received a letter from the Michigan Department of Corrections stating that my physical test which I took March 2006 over a two years ago was out dated. They scheduled another test for November 18th 2008 in Lansing. This is after being in their applicant pool for 2 years. This is also after being told that they were hiring women only because they were going to womens prisons. And this is after they informed me they were only hiring women because they calm the inmates down. And finally this is after I was informed they werent hiring any white males. Now that I have moved to Tennessee "a state that does take care of their veterans who have served their country" I get a letter in the mail wanting me to go take the physical test which I passed with flying colors the first time. Only to be able to sit in the applicant pool for a couple more years and be beat out of employment because I am a white male. No thanks Michigan Department of Corrections you've wasted enough of my time! As you have said I don't meet your criteria.

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David in Oak Ridge, Tennessee

79 months ago

Eric Thompson in Harrison Township, Michigan said: Hey,
I'm on the waiting list to go to training in Michigan, does anyone know how long that might be? I know they just finished one up, does anyone know when the next one is? How likely is it to be picked for this session of training?

Eric,

Have you been set up for the Michigan Department of Corrections Academy yet? I was just curious. Please let me know soon! remember Tennessee is the place to be.

David L Wale

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sparkie in Wyandotte, Michigan

79 months ago

David in Oak Ridge, Tennessee said: Last week I received a letter from the Michigan Department of Corrections stating that my physical test which I took March 2006 over a two years ago was out dated. They scheduled another test for November 18th 2008 in Lansing. This is after being in their applicant pool for 2 years. This is also after being told that they were hiring women only because they were going to womens prisons. And this is after they informed me they were only hiring women because they calm the inmates down. And finally this is after I was informed they werent hiring any white males. Now that I have moved to Tennessee "a state that does take care of their veterans who have served their country" I get a letter in the mail wanting me to go take the physical test which I passed with flying colors the first time. Only to be able to sit in the applicant pool for a couple more years and be beat out of employment because I am a white male. No thanks Michigan Department of Corrections you've wasted enough of my time! As you have said I don't meet your criteria.

im a white male, served 4yrs in the marines and combat vet and ive been in the applicant pool since 2005 and just recently got a letter to update my physical and exit interview which i passed both. during the interview i was told that their only hiring applicants with masters degrees.there is also a hiring freeze! no academy in jan!! this state is a joke.

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David in Knoxville, Tennessee

79 months ago

sparkie in Wyandotte, Michigan said: im a white male, served 4yrs in the marines and combat vet and ive been in the applicant pool since 2005 and just recently got a letter to update my physical and exit interview which i passed both. during the interview i was told that their only hiring applicants with masters degrees.there is also a hiring freeze! no academy in jan!! this state is a joke.

Semper Fi Marine or as we say in the Army suck it up and drive on! Michigan doesnt care about its veterans because if they did we wouldnt be getting excuses and smoke blown up our $#$$$#. Anyways my home was foreclosed on and my credit was ruined! However, my glass is half full! I have sucked it up and drove on to Tennessee. Tennessee is awesome and good people down here. Best of all veterans come first! Michigan state government should be ashamed of themselves!

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David in Oak Ridge, Tennessee

79 months ago

sparkie in Wyandotte, Michigan said: im a white male, served 4yrs in the marines and combat vet and ive been in the applicant pool since 2005 and just recently got a letter to update my physical and exit interview which i passed both. during the interview i was told that their only hiring applicants with masters degrees.there is also a hiring freeze! no academy in jan!! this state is a joke.

I almost forgot to mention do you know what veterans preference really means? Veterans Preference means that you the veteran are allowed to get interviews! That I was told by a lady at the civil service department in Michigan when I called and asked what veterans preference was. I think I could get interviews without having this so called veterans preference. And we shouldnt blame Michigan for not taking care of their veterans; we should blame the government state and federal for letting them get away with it. Shameful as I said

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?&? in Greenville, Michigan

78 months ago

Why is it you continue to dog Michigan, if you are so happy in Tennessee? And why on a job forum? I came to this site searching for answers, for questions I had about corrections, but what do I get a soap opera. I am a 22 year old male who has been accepted to train in the upcoming academy, that was suppose to take place on Jan 12. I received a call stating that the academy is on hold until further notice. Did you ever think that maybe your area wasn't hiring, because the state can't even afford to train new officers. I just don't understand why you are so hung up on this job, was it your dream to become a corrections officer? Move on there are other career choices and maybe if you spent less time on a internet forum you would know that.

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David in Oak Ridge, Tennessee

78 months ago

?&? in Greenville, Michigan said: Why is it you continue to dog Michigan, if you are so happy in Tennessee? And why on a job forum? I came to this site searching for answers, for questions I had about corrections, but what do I get a soap opera. I am a 22 year old male who has been accepted to train in the upcoming academy, that was suppose to take place on Jan 12. I received a call stating that the academy is on hold until further notice. Did you ever think that maybe your area wasn't hiring, because the state can't even afford to train new officers. I just don't understand why you are so hung up on this job, was it your dream to become a corrections officer? Move on there are other career choices and maybe if you spent less time on a internet forum you would know that.

Actually I reply to dumbasses like you because these responses are sent to my email address. I have moved on and you say your a male but no mention of ethnicity, whom? Have you served your country? I wonder? Do you have a degree? Whom I wonder? Well anyways good luck with that.

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David in Oak Ridge, Tennessee

78 months ago

David in Oak Ridge, Tennessee said: Actually I reply to dumbasses like you because these responses are sent to my email address. I have moved on and you say your a male but no mention of ethnicity, whom? Have you served your country? I wonder? Do you have a degree? Whom I wonder? Well anyways good luck with that.

I must also say that the reason I am so angry is because I served my country in combat not once but twice just to be beat out of employment by individuals simply because of their race or color. Veterans should come first but they dont. I also dont like a governor or any political pecker head who uses the troops as a photo opportunity for themselves. I dont like being lied to, or cheated. Like I said good luck!

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David in Oak Ridge, Tennessee

78 months ago

David in Oak Ridge, Tennessee said: I must also say that the reason I am so angry is because I served my country in combat not once but twice just to be beat out of employment by individuals simply because of their race or color. Veterans should come first but they dont. I also dont like a governor or any political pecker head who uses the troops as a photo opportunity for themselves. I dont like being lied to, or cheated. Like I said good luck!

Race or Gender! My bad, its been a long day

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jonesy in Hale, Michigan

78 months ago

amelia

did you hear bout them postponing the january class because of cut. if so did you hear when they might start the next class . any information would be great

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tinytims in grandrapids, Michigan

78 months ago

hey amelia

Just wondering if you hear any information about them rescheduling the january class due to buget cuts and if you could find out when they might be starting the 09 class I am waiting and was hoping to get into january class so any information would be a great christmas gift

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tinytims in grand rapids, Michigan

78 months ago

hey ?&?
i was wondering when you took your interview so that i would have some kind of reference of the back log. I was told that the state was behind on interviews because of the hiring freeze this summer so any information would be helpful. Do you know how long it takes to do a background ckeck and so forth. I had my inteview in late october and passed so i am waiting for the next step. Pleae help with any possible information you can provide since you know all about the waiting game and how it feels thanks

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?&? in Greenville, Michigan

78 months ago

tinytims in grand rapids, Michigan said: hey ?&?
i was wondering when you took your interview so that i would have some kind of reference of the back log. I was told that the state was behind on interviews because of the hiring freeze this summer so any information would be helpful. Do you know how long it takes to do a background ckeck and so forth. I had my inteview in late october and passed so i am waiting for the next step. Pleae help with any possible information you can provide since you know all about the waiting game and how it feels thanks

Yeah I am a white male by the way and have a degree, but yeah I passed my interview in july and got a call last month but the academy for january is on hold so I dont know how long it could take. I went to a job fair like two years ago and still waiting but it will be worth the wait , just hang in there.

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SLR in Oscoda, Michigan

78 months ago

What is with you people and race? You might want to ease up on thinking your not getting a job because of color. My god we are way past that. Also this blog is reviewed by the some people in the correction department.

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David in Oak Ridge, Tennessee

78 months ago

SLR in Oscoda, Michigan said: What is with you people and race? You might want to ease up on thinking your not getting a job because of color. My god we are way past that. Also this blog is reviewed by the some people in the correction department.

I can only speak of the experience I had, what I went through and what I was told. And if this is veiwed by some people in the corrections department maybe next time they will get it right. Discrimination is discrimination whether it is reverse discrimination or not. It shouldnt matter what color I am or whether I am male or female my point is veterans who have served their country should come first and that simply isnt the case there in Michigan. And those who allow this reverse discrimination to happen to a veteran who has served his country should be ashamed of themselves!

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K. in Saginaw, Michigan

78 months ago

tinytims in grandrapids, Michigan said: hey amelia

Just wondering if you hear any information about them rescheduling the january class due to buget cuts and if you could find out when they might be starting the 09 class I am waiting and was hoping to get into january class so any information would be a great christmas gift

hey i heard the same thing about the academy being postponed. I took my interview and PT in October and passed everything. Now I also hear that there is a hiring freeze. If anyone out there knows whats going on or if there is a guarantee that they will call back, I would really like to know. Thanks

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dave in Traverse City, Michigan

78 months ago

hey k
when in october did you take your test. i took mine in october aswell and passed aslo. did you hear anything about if our background check are done if not how long does it take do you know. hopefully they hire again. it sound like we didnt make the january class anyway but they say that they cut three million from training and have saved enough to hire 259 new recruits if "needed". this is posted on the doc web page under fyi . any information anyone else knows will help all of us waiting to continue the process.

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military veteran in Wyandotte, Michigan

78 months ago

a friend of mine is a corrections officer and last week he recieved a letter stating that even though the state is in the process of closing 2 prisons they are still over budget. the letter states that they'll be laying off prisons guards this year and also closing more prisons in the process.

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slr7907 in East Tawas, Michigan

78 months ago

That statement is not true. They are closing prisons but they will be hiring. I know some people that work down in lansing at the corrections department.

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dave in Traverse City, Michigan

78 months ago

sir7907
hello I was wondering if you are aware when and how many people they are hiring. they cancelled january class so i was wondering if any more classes will begin other than the class that was cancelled since they will most likely just invite the january class back for the next class. thanks for any information you can provide it is helpful

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slr7907 in East Tawas, Michigan

78 months ago

yes they will be hiring and the classes are just delayed. The ladies classes will be first then the guys. I don't know a date but that's the plan for now.

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Sue in Lennon, Michigan

78 months ago

sir7907
Was the January class that was canceled a ladies class or a guys class? I thought the classes were mixed.

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David Wale in Oak Ridge, Tennessee

78 months ago

There is a February class scheduled as of now. The next one will be in July. So if you have met the criteria you shouldnt have a problem.

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dave in Traverse City, Michigan

78 months ago

david wale

is tha class in february and july in michigan or tennessee

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amelia in Detroit, Michigan

78 months ago

slr doesnt know what hes talking about. the classes are mixed. yes the january and the march classes have been cancelled, as far as i know the may one is still on

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Sue in Lennon, Michigan

78 months ago

Amelia
Thanks for the info. It seems as though you are the one that has the most reliable information. Will you please update this forum if and when you hear anything new about the classes starting back up again? Thanks

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slr7907 in East Tawas, Michigan

78 months ago

i dont??? i think you better get your facts straight before you run your mouth. I know at least 10 people in the prison system who work there. I think i know whats going on!!

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amelia in Detroit, Michigan

78 months ago

Yay sure you do slr. Considering I just finished the academy and work for a prison, I think I would know better than you would.

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slr7907 in East Tawas, Michigan

78 months ago

it just kills me that you people that think you know everything tell people false information. There is no way that the academy is mixed. I know its not. I was told by the Lansing people its not and many others. Hell just call them and they will tell you!!!

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amelia in Detroit, Michigan

78 months ago

I don't have to call them. I just finished the academy and the class was MIXED! The males and females were seperated when it came to what rooms and floors they were on, but not when it came to the classes. I know this from experience, your information is based on word of mouth.

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slr7907 in East Tawas, Michigan

78 months ago

Listen!! I don't care what you just did, your wrong. If they did when you where there then it has changed. Why would corrections in Lansing, the people who do this for a living tell a lie just to me. I know a lot of people who work for the prisons in Michigan. If you think your so right, call them your self, oh that's right you know it all since you work there, i forgot!!

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slr7907 in East Tawas, Michigan

78 months ago

Yes it was that way when you were there, it has now changed!! since the first class in Feb is for ladies only and then the guys follow after that. That is why its not mixed now!

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amelia in Detroit, Michigan

78 months ago

Get over it, the classes are mixed. And if you knew anything you would know the Jan class is cancelled, there is no Feb class and the next one isn't till May.

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slr7907 in East Tawas, Michigan

78 months ago

what?? your full of B.S i know the Jan is not going on and that's why i said Feb and where do you get your info? cracker jack box? Damn stop telling lies to these people and get your facts straight!! Good luck you have a lot to learn in your job!!

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dave in Traverse City, Michigan

78 months ago

hello amelia
sue is right that you are the only one that has facts straight dont worry about anybody else. help with any information that you have and let those people believe what they believe. you have had the correct information from the start.

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David Wale in Oak Ridge, Tennessee

78 months ago

Amelia,

I was the one that got sir to believe that there is an academy in February. As far as the classes being mixed yes they are sir Amelia does know about that. I am still getting a kick out of this forum for corrections in Michigan because it is so pathetic there. Keep me laughing and remember this Michigan Department of Corrections discriminates against white males so if you can play the race or gender card your in depending on the economy. However, if you are a white male and you have served your country come to Tennessee.

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Sue in Lennon, Michigan

78 months ago

David Wale
I am glad things worked out for you in Tennessee but I really do wish you would stop monitoring this forum and stop commenting. I understand that you feel you have been mistreated by the Michigan Department of Correction but you have moved on. There are many of us who choose not to or cannot relocate and we are interested in learning factual information about the corrections academy here. So please be considerate of the rest of us and stop with all the anger and misinformation. Enjoy your new life in that beautiful state of Tennessee, I wish you all the best.

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