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MsKappaK in Houston, Texas

60 months ago

You are a slave to the owners. You will do whatever they decide they want you to do to make them more money (give immunizations, work with insufficient support staff). Anything the customer says against you, you will pay for. It does not matter if the customer is lying. If the customer complains, you will be reprimanded. It pays well, but you get no respect- from the customers nor from the corporation. It is so bad that I have been looking for a $10-$15 per hour data-entry job with insurance benefits where I just type all day and everyone basically leaves me the f--- alone.

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AK in Boston, Massachusetts

52 months ago

I should never have gone into pharmacy. I came from Ontario Canada to the USA for pharmacy school. I am a year grom graduation. First of all, the school kills you, I am so worn out. In Ontario the government introduced pharmacy reforms that decreased funding to pharmacies. As a result, there are NO jobs available in Ontario. My friend who graduated in May 2010 still does not have a job. Pay used to be around 95,000/ yr for an ontario pharmacist, but thanks to reforms it is currently down to 70,000/yr and decreasing. The chain drug stores own you, and are becoming all the more demanding now that their pharmacy funding has been cut, and they cut tech hours like crazy. In the USA, the pay is significantly better, but people still are having problems finding jobs. Not to mention that as a pharmacist you will have to work nights and weekends on a regular basis. The Chains in the USA own your ass even more than in Canada, they are evil, they treat you like a robot or a slave, not a professional. Trust me, don't be a pharmacist, it sucks.

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HaHa in Lake Stevens, Washington

51 months ago

I would like to give you guys a heads up from a pharmacy tech perspective. MsKappaK & for the most part everyone else is right. The retail side of pharmacy will absolutely rape you to get a bottom line i.e. overwork, understaff, cheat, etc. But I am astonished that this is any surprise. ANYONE that has worked in retail realizes this but since the pharmacist is the only one making any kind of a decent living wage you all need to STFU. Its not anyone else's fault you didn't do any background checking or heaven forbid ask your local pharmacist what kind of job they have.

I've worked plenty of days where the pharmacist is crying in the back on their breaks. Doesn't make my job any easier & honestly as great of people as some of them are when asked I advise they be let go because they are unqualified for the job & most of the time I would be doing them a favor. As a RETAIL PHARMACIST I feel like in addition to some of your schooling you should also have EXPERIENCE IN RETAIL (I know crazy right?). That means STRONG customer service skills and a substantial amount of SUPERVISING or MANAGEMENT experience because that is what you will be doing.

For those looking for a job & new graduates the best thing I can tell you is to contact the DISTRICT MANAGER and submit your resume to them. Start building your network in school & during your extern ships. (Their is a $4k bounty on most of your heads for a hired referral most of the people on the inside wouldn't mind cashing in on) Most hired pharmacist at my company are referred by an existing employee or former employee we almost don't even need to take applications. Expect to hate this job if you have never worked retail, under pressure, suck... but remember that you are being fairly compensated compared to the number of people working beside you (its not unheard of and almost the norm for technicians to start at minimum wage & all the pressures on the pharmacist are usually passed off to the techs).

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itsAllGood in Quincy, Massachusetts

51 months ago

AK in Boston, Massachusetts said: I should never have gone into pharmacy. I came from Ontario Canada to the USA for pharmacy school. I am a year grom graduation. First of all, the school kills you, I am so worn out. In Ontario the government introduced pharmacy reforms that decreased funding to pharmacies. As a result, there are NO jobs available in Ontario. My friend who graduated in May 2010 still does not have a job. Pay used to be around 95,000/ yr for an ontario pharmacist, but thanks to reforms it is currently down to 70,000/yr and decreasing. The chain drug stores own you, and are becoming all the more demanding now that their pharmacy funding has been cut, and they cut tech hours like crazy. In the USA, the pay is significantly better, but people still are having problems finding jobs. Not to mention that as a pharmacist you will have to work nights and weekends on a regular basis. The Chains in the USA own your ass even more than in Canada, they are evil, they treat you like a robot or a slave, not a professional. Trust me, don't be a pharmacist, it sucks.

AK, the profession of pharmacy is undergoing a paradigm shift in Ontario. While it is true that the government slashed professional allowance fees and cut the costs of generic medications (thereby decreasing profitability, since the markup is fixed), it is also true that they've introduced and expanded programs like MedsCheck that set the foundation for pharmacists to get paid for their cognitive skills and use their education rather than count by 5's and fill 300 rx a day. The retail market is transformed as automation, and pharmacy technicians will takeover the role of medication dispensing.
www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/758423--more-drug-dispensing-kiosks-on-the-way

Exciting times are ahead

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Truong in Westminster, California

50 months ago

Hi John, are you serious? You dropped out of a Pharm D. Program while many of us (Asian) is looking or working our ass off to get accepted in one of those school. In my case, i was accepted in Hawaii College of Pharm (HCP) back in 2004 and i REJECTED an interview (a potential acceptance) with South University (at that time they were unaccredited, Dr. Jacqueline called me), i did it because i had a lot of my friends were going to HCP. Anyway, I didn't go (couldn't make the $28,000 cash loan no cosigner, thanks GOD!!! ) and HCP closed after one year. I only got $237 out of $1000 of my seat deposit back. Meanwhile my girlfriend has gone to MCP in boston for one year already. Right now, she is making good money (at least $56 and up /hr)but she tells me that she has to put up with a lot of customers yelling and doctors ' rudeness . As for me, I'm currently retaking all my science courses since they are more than 6 years old so I can to Pharmacy another try (i'm 30). But after reading all these post, i have to reconsider my decision to give it a second trial. Lately she has been working OT while i can even land my RT job for 7 months now. Are you sure your info is correct???

JohnDoe in Angola, New York said: Hello all,
I was accepted to a 10 ten pharmacy school and started my P1 year in the Fall. I left because of the saturation and where I think the profession is going. Let me just throw some numbers out there, and let you all make your own decisions.
Year:
2000 -82 pharmacy schools
2005-92 pharmacy schools
2010-130 pharmacy schools

15 new schools are planning to open within the next 3 years.......Thank you to the diploma mills for destroying a great profession.

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JohnDoe in Buffalo, New York

50 months ago

Hey Truong,
Trust me I know the asian population is highly interested in PharmD. I went on interviews all over the country, and I must say approximately 60-70% of the applicants were asian. I have no problem with it, but I just couldn't help but notice the trend. My information is absolutely correct. I have a number of friends still in pharmacy school and pharmacists. 3 years ago we all heard of the pharmacy shortage, my friends were getting bmw leases, sign on bonuses, etc. Now, I feel like everyone and their mother is going for pharmacy, but they don't do any research into the field. If you go to the BLS labor website, they still predict the pharmacy is growing at an amazing rate, WHICH IT IS NOT. They DO NOT take into account all of the new schools that have/are opening. Can you still sign on somewhere with a bonus. Probably, but these jobs are outliers. I have personally watched a DRAMATIC change in the supply/demand ratio for pharmacists, and can't even imagine how bad it will be in 4 years from now. I work in retail and a hospital right now. I was in my Director of Pharmacy's office yesterday, and he showed me a stack (probably 30) applications for positions, and we aren't even hiring. I don't even live in a desirable area, and retail and hospital is completely saturated. This all will inturn affect the salaries, benefits etc. Most new grads I know who have been fortunate enough to find jobs are floating and receive no benefits. Do I think I could find a job 4 years from now? Maybe, but I'm looking into the long term, and the damage and is/will be done by all of these new schools will be the downfall to our profession. I have TONS of research and personal info about all this. I'm not trying to personally dissuade anyone from this profession, but I also want people to know the facts, so they don't graduate with $100K+ debt, and have no means of paying that off, let alone working in a position they have worked so hard in school to get.

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dindo in Quezon City, Philippines

49 months ago

AK in Boston, Massachusetts said: I should never have gone into pharmacy. I came from Ontario Canada to the USA for pharmacy school. I am a year grom graduation. First of all, the school kills you, I am so worn out. In Ontario the government introduced pharmacy reforms that decreased funding to pharmacies. As a result, there are NO jobs available in Ontario. My friend who graduated in May 2010 still does not have a job. Pay used to be around 95,000/ yr for an ontario pharmacist, but thanks to reforms it is currently down to 70,000/yr and decreasing. The chain drug stores own you, and are becoming all the more demanding now that their pharmacy funding has been cut, and they cut tech hours like crazy. In the USA, the pay is significantly better, but people still are having problems finding jobs. Not to mention that as a pharmacist you will have to work nights and weekends on a regular basis. The Chains in the USA own your ass even more than in Canada, they are evil, they treat you like a robot or a slave, not a professional. Trust me, don't be a pharmacist, it sucks.

AK, can you give us update on how' your pharmacist friend doing in Ontario already? Is it really that bad now?

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dindo in Quezon City, Philippines

49 months ago

jk in Burlington, Ontario said: I am a canadian pharmacist in ontario, foreign-trained, 49 yo. Now I am in the process of getting US licensure and thinking about relocating in MI as my daughter(US citizen) is studying in Michigan, for tuition and medical school admission purpose. In order to be reclassified as an in-state student, I probably have to secure a job there before coming July. Even though the pharmacy market in ontario is shrinking due to the recent gov't budget cut, I am quite satisfied with my current position. So I am not sure whether benefits of relocating now would be greater than risks. Please share your opinion. Thanks!!

Hi JK,

So what do you think of working in Canada ,as a pharmacist ,,particularly Ontario right now? you said you are foreign trained, my daughter is an IPG student and she'll finish it this winter. Hopefully she could have studentship after CPS and MCQ and OSCE

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Jenke in Grand Prairie, Texas

49 months ago

Been working as a pharmacist for 15 years, I make 120K working for Wags.

Money is great, you work hard, but what do you expect making over 100K straight without overtime.

So everyone quit pharmacy and make 50-60K a year, I will stick with my 120K.

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Phil in Niles, Illinois

49 months ago

I wen on this site today due to the fact my mother, who has been a pharmacist for 10+ years was laid off. I initially thought that I too would follow in my mom's footsteps, but starting in the beginning of last year that has all change. She started to seem stressed out, overworked and most importantl scared of losing her job. Sadly thoughm this has caught up to her and now is in trouble. After seeing what my mom haf been going through and hearing all that was said in this topic, I'm glad to say that I will not become a pharmacist. I was actually thinking of joining the uic progeam this fall but I will take my interest elsewhere. I appreciate what everyone has said and thank you for it. I do hope she can find a a job elsewhere in time before I start college for now I am truly worried about my future for anything.

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FS in Lynn, Massachusetts

49 months ago

CNN is not a good source for this information.

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BigMac in Alexandria, Virginia

49 months ago

To Phil in Niles, Illinois

I am sorry to hear of your mother's difficulties.. perhaps looking around for a different pharmacy situation which would better suite her personality/strengths would help. I hate to see all of that experience go to waste... All the best to you both.

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Frank

49 months ago

Yea people don't do pharmacy, stay making 50-60k.

I have enjoyed my 100k+ salary since graduating pharmacy school! But stay out of pharmacy it's bad!! Lol

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kelly in Fresno, California

47 months ago

Truong in Westminster, California said: Thank you Johndoe & RPh for your input. I believe that a lot of people get into this field is because of the $$$,new graduate 100K+. Have you done any research on Physican Assistant field? Is that on the same trend as pharmacy? Thanks. I'm an RT working per diem right now! This field is also saturated as well. I'm thinking to move on a different field in health care. I have a new grad nurse who for 6 months couldn't find a job either.

Hi Truong,
I was wondering what career path did you take. I will be graduating next year with a B.S. in Community Health and I'm thinking about doing my pre-req. classes for pharmacy school. I'm also considering Physician Assistant. Ideally, I think I rather go the Pharmacy route, not for the money but I think of it as a secure job and I would really love to open my own pharmacy chain one day. I totally understand the hugh infulx of pre-pharmacy students and the possible future of pharamcy but I just don't see it happening.

Let me know what did u choose to do.

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some age on this RPh in Albany, Georgia

47 months ago

RPh in Rockford, I could not agree more about Pharmacists joining this profession for the right reason. After nearly 30 years I can honestly say I still enjoy being a pharmacist. Some patients I'd like to send elsewhere but they are still my patiients. I have worked hospital and retail and agree you can't do it for the money

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some age on this RPh in Albany, Georgia

47 months ago

I had a 3.2 on a 4.0 scale. The only place I ever applied that asked for transcripts was federal/veterans admin. and their application process is unreal compared to most. What's your thought here?

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kelly in Fresno, California

47 months ago

I haven't taken many math or science classes, my undergrad classes were mostly toward my major. I have failed some classes during my first and second year but I have re-taken those classes and passed with remarkable grades (I failed 4 classes in total, including chem, history, sociology, and statistic, re-took them all, passed chem with an “A“ , history with an “A“, sociology with a “B“ and I‘m currently doing very well in stat class with an 88%). My plan is to get my bachelor (Spring 2012) and then do my pre-req. for pharmacy school. That way I could focus strictly on my math and science classes and get all the help that I can get without distractions. I’m hoping that I could redeem myself by doing well in my math and science classes to compensate for the classes that I failed earlier. Let’s just say, my transcript doesn’t look that bright during the first and second year of college.

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Michael in Clementon, New Jersey

43 months ago

unemployed pharmacist here. cannot find ANY work as a pharmacist. have gone to every place I could possibly find out there. it is BRUTAL. i dont know what i will do to feed my family. i cannot even tell my wife all this, she thinks that there are tons of pharmacist jobs out there. i keep explaining that i apply but never hear back (most arent even fulltime positions).

at this point im applying for jobs that are not pharmacist positions. im taking my pharmd off my resume because places will not hire you if you are a flight risk.

i wouldnt wish this on anyone. i owe over 100k in loans right now as well. i am buried by this debt and just cannot pay anything.

John Doe, pharmcas doesnt even discuss the "satellite" campus that those schools have. a satellite school is a whole other pharm school on its own but shows as the main school.

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Itwasgoodforawhile a in Chicago, Illinois

42 months ago

how can being reprmand affect my job serach. worker comp, got fired for that but they have to make me look incompetent first.

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Itwasgoodforawhile a in Chicago, Illinois

42 months ago

with 2 yrs in residency, and Pharm D. You will get a job somewhere good. Might not be a sit down clinical job, at your home town. You will have to move somewhere to0 move. And you will have to some staff work. I think the 9-5 p mon to Fri at=re gone. Get involved in clinial informatics for 2 yrs in residency. leern how to write pharmacy programs, new nich out there.
wish you good luck. And I know because I am exactly in the in the same shoes, but I am not married and no kids.

Check university of UTAH.

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dan in Lawrenceville, Georgia

42 months ago

JohnDoe in Angola, New York said: Sorry for the typo. I am on my phone and didnt catch it.....I meant to say I was accepted to a top 10 pharmacy school...........People can say things like, "People will be retiring, health care plan will add millions more on scripts, etc. etc." Fact of the matter is that doesn't matter. Saturation has already reached its tipping point in alot of areas, and will be much much worse in 4 years from now. Not only have new pharmacy schools been popping up on every corner, but older traditional schools have been increasing their class sizes. These schools are causing irreparable damage, and the number of new grads each year will GREATLY surpass the number of retiring pharmacists/open positions. Its simple supply and demand. Pharmacy is not immune to this rule. Trust me people, I love this profession and this is the last thing I wanted to see happen. It was a very difficult decision to make by stepping out of a program that I worked so hard to get into.

John I hear ya, I'm abt to drop out after my 2nd yr, how far into ur 3rd were ya, please e-mail me so we can talk

chumsy187@hotmail.com

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Ed in Miami, Florida

42 months ago

Oh no! It's such a fast-paced work environment, the customers are so rude and impatient, the phone calls for transfers and confirms are driving me crazy... I only make $100,000!!! How about most jobs out there are worse than this and pay 1/3 what pharmacists make... Try being a high school janitor cleaning up clogged toilets and marijuana butts off the floor the whole day while crazy teenagers runs around you in circles for $7.25 an hour... My local CVS pharmacist just sits on her fat @$$ all day, nodding off until after 5 pm when she has to deal with 2 customers per hour. There's never been more than 2 people in line... ever... Hell, for 100k a year I will take it up the @$$ on a regular basis... You are all a bunch of spoiled, never-satisfied, greedy children...

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MichaelPharmD in New Jersey

42 months ago

ed in miami, that CVS person you spoke of is a very big outlier from the norm if true. most pharmacists i know work pushing out 600+ prescriptions, answering phone calls, consults with customers, flu shots, running around crazy. they cut tech hours and pharmacist overlap. it is not a sitdown job. most places do not allow pharmacist to sit down during their day.

i have been looking for work as a pharmacist for months upon months begging for work. i even tell them i will work for less than they offer others. i apply to non-pharmacist jobs. there are people making 100k, but that is only a temporary thing and it will come down very fast in the future.

i am very stressed and depressed because i have over 100,000 dollars in loans, no job, no way to pay back, a wife and baby. my wife thinks im not looking hard enough because of all those news reports saying pharmacists have 100s of jobs.

i have walked in personally to every single pharmacy in a 25 mile radius looking for work and talking to pharmacists. i went on google maps and went to every single one out there. not a single damn job at all.

i have been seeking jobs outside of pharmacy like an office assistant or anything else but nobody will hire me because they said i am too overqualified.

i went to cheesecake factory that said they are hiring for a host position where you greet people at the door. if you are good, eventually you can move up to being a food server. they too told me they will get back to me when they have finished collecting applications.

i will say this, becoming a pharmacist has been the single hand WORST DECISION OF MY LIFE. i am crippled by the debt and i am crippled by the degree preventing me from getting jobs outside of pharmacy. i encourage people to avoid pharmacy as a career. this is a warm suggestion to help others avoid the miserable situation i am in.

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SV in Thibodaux, Louisiana

42 months ago

MsKappaK in Houston, Texas said: You are a slave to the owners. You will do whatever they decide they want you to do to make them more money (give immunizations, work with insufficient support staff). Anything the customer says against you, you will pay for. It does not matter if the customer is lying. If the customer complains, you will be reprimanded. It pays well, but you get no respect- from the customers nor from the corporation. It is so bad that I have been looking for a $10-$15 per hour data-entry job with insurance benefits where I just type all day and everyone basically leaves me the f--- alone.

This is true!

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Tupper in Richmond, Virginia

41 months ago

I have 16 years of retail under my belt. I can tell you that this profession is an absoltue disaster. The few Pharmacists that are happy are the folks that have so much much debt that they pretend that they have a great job.

If you value your health, happiness, and don't want to end up pessimistic stay away from at least retail Pharmacy. If not, you will regret it in about 5 years after your energey runs low. After that, you will realize that your opportunities are few and far between. However, you have likely already bought a nice house, a nice car and have student loans. guess what., You are stuck! And, you didn't see it coming. The system is set up for a reason. You have just fallen into the system. And, if you got married and had a child then you will be protesting about retail pharmacy in the next ten years wondering how to get out.

Those of you who think we are making positives steps in Retail by giving FLU shots are fools. Medical assistance can already do this. This is just another burden placed on Pharmacists that does not work because chains are not willing to budget extra time to make a "clinical setting" approach work.

And, if you think people ae going to stop going to their Physician for cholesterol, BP, and A1C screenings you have got to be kidding. The pateint realizes that if they do this at the Docs office, the can also receive a prescription to get on with their lives.

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Mike in Tampa, Florida

39 months ago

Tupper in Richmond, Virginia said: I have 16 years of retail under my belt. I can tell you that this profession is an absoltue disaster. The few Pharmacists that are happy are the folks that have so much much debt that they pretend that they have a great job.

If you value your health, happiness, and don't want to end up pessimistic stay away from at least retail Pharmacy. If not, you will regret it in about 5 years after your energey runs low. After that, you will realize that your opportunities are few and far between. However, you have likely already bought a nice house, a nice car and have student loans. guess what., You are stuck! And, you didn't see it coming. The system is set up for a reason. You have just fallen into the system. And, if you got married and had a child then you will be protesting about retail pharmacy in the next ten years wondering how to get out.

Those of you who think we are making positives steps in Retail by giving FLU shots are fools. Medical assistance can already do this. This is just another burden placed on Pharmacists that does not work because chains are not willing to budget extra time to make a "clinical setting" approach work.

And, if you think people ae going to stop going to their Physician for cholesterol, BP, and A1C screenings you have got to be kidding. The pateint realizes that if they do this at the Docs office, the can also receive a prescription to get on with their lives.

I just do not understand why retail pharmacists say there let alone for 16 years if they hate it. There are other pharmacy jobs, consulting, IV, oncology and so. So what if you bought a house and car. You can sell them and quit pharmacy altogether if you want. With all due respect you need the courage to change your situation

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Mike in Tampa, Florida

39 months ago

I really get annoyed at the whinning of retail pharmacist. Yes I know that the jobs sucks but I have always made sure I had extra skills beyond just being a staff pharmacist and retail one to boot. If the job sucks then quit, I would rather be happy and make 50K per year them completely miserable and make 100K but while you hate the job you are addicted to the money. Retail has always paid the most because the job is the worst in all of pharmacy. I am an infusion pharmacy manager, I sit at a desk, get a lunch break, no face to face cusomers, I don not deal with insurance and I get 130K per year. My advice is to get other skills in pharmacy or quit and do something else.

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Molly in Rockford, Illinois

39 months ago

Your mom is not telling you something. It took me all of 4 seconds to find this

www.missionhospitals.org/bodyiframe.cfm?id=784&fr=true

Four pharmacists jobs in a beautiful area. Doy!

There's plenty of jobs.

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Peter in Rockford, Illinois

39 months ago

Find a new hobby. You're wrong.

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Pre-MBA dude in Fremont, California

39 months ago

Hey, thank you all for contributing to this forum. Because of your comments and feedback, I have decided not to go into Pharmacy even though my main intent was for the money...thanks again!

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Peter in Rockford, Illinois

39 months ago

And thank you for not going into pharmacy. The last thing we need is another pharmacist in it just for the money. They are the worst!

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ethaniel in Woodbridge, Virginia

39 months ago

- I'm seriously pondering about going into Pharmacy and though Peter from Illinois might hate me for it, it's initially bec. of the money. We're poor and making ends meet. I've read about what they do and what skills may be needed and education to be one. I'm going to research more on the logistics but another 4yrs of college, 2yrs of internship would be no joke in starting a new career for earning, hopefully 100K. and my bottomline is WILL THE STRESS OF WORKING AND STUDYING FOR A PHARMACIST BE WORTH THAT MUCH MONEY? MY IDEAL JOB IS TO WORK IN A STABLE JOB AND HAVE TIME TO SPEND WITH FAMILY. IS THERE A MARKET FOR PHARMACIST IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA NOW, HOW BOUT 10YRS. FROM NOW? Architects is looking dim in my opinion, unless you go abroad where construction is all time high.

I finished BS Arch and worked for 4+yrs bec. I loved it (despite the stress it may give me), then lost that job bec. of the economy, but it also awakened me to my weakness and strengths. It showed that my skills in math, details, patience in reading/memorizing, research, paperwork and helping people may be best served in a career such as this bec. that's where I'm good at vs. my weakness in drawing and design which I'll need if I want to succeed in Architecture.

im in my 30s and I don't want to make the wrong decision about my future, which I felt I did in the past.

It's either this, paralegal, or taking masters in Architecture to maybe improve my chances. Currently I've been working with min. wage not related to my degree past 2yrs. and I'd like to make big changes in whatever direction starting on 2012.

YOUR ADVICE AS A PHARMACIST WOULD BE A GREAT XMAS GIFT! TNX

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hardwrkrphNJ in New Brunswick, New Jersey

39 months ago

Hello Happy Holidays I dont know what to tell you but after spending at least 1 year and 1/2 unemployed as a pharmacist I would tell you not to waste the money getting a degree that will put you into debt. Right now thedegree will cost at least 120k if you dont get a job after graduation the bank will not understand. If you still want to take a chance then start right now getting a job at a drug store as a tech or cashier maybe that will increase your chances after graduation and learn to kiss butt it isnt how good you are but who you know.Good Luck

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Pharmacy Sucks in Leek, United Kingdom

39 months ago

Mike in Tampa, how do we get these wonderful jobs as infusion pharmacists. I am from the UK and the situation is the same as described in the US. Pharmacy Schools opening every week, saturation of pharmacists, we now have checking technicians who can do the final check. No jobs for pharmacists, end of!!!

If it is as bad in the US as it is here I'd advise any student not to study Pharmacy

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was pharmacy the right choice? in Leicester, United Kingdom

39 months ago

I agree, the UK situation is not any better at all. I remember reading a few months ago that there were going to be a few more pharmacy schools were going to open up with a vision of creating a 5 year MPharm course integrating the pre-qualification year within the undergraduate course (in order for the GPhc - General Pharmaceutical Counicl to look favorably on them). Oh in a recent edition of "regulate" (our GPhC magazine) they said that "monitoring the job levels for Pharmacy graduates was not there concern" (or something along that line!) - clearly they seem not to care about massive numbers of pharmacy graduates without a job.

It's a shame that the profession will get saturated.

All of my friends have all gone in to community (retail) pharmacy, and are earning in the region of £35,000 (approx $56,000), whereas my Junior wage is only in the region of £27,500 (approx $44,000), and will soon drop because of Agenda for change! (they will eventually get rid of the emergency commitment pay for working overnight), and currently there are 8 (and soon to be 7) of us doing the job where there should be 12 (NHS fiances are going down the pan!)

I don't understand how you American Pharmacist complain about the job. $100,000 is almost £60,000!!! - a very small portion of UK pharmacists would ever earn this much!
An average community/retail pharmacist would earn up to approx £45,000, and and average hospital pharmacist around £39,000.

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nix in Brampton, Ontario

39 months ago

hardwrkrphNJ in New Brunswick, New Jersey said: Hello Happy Holidays I dont know what to tell you but after spending at least 1 year and 1/2 unemployed as a pharmacist I would tell you not to waste the money getting a degree that will put you into debt. Right now thedegree will cost at least 120k if you dont get a job after graduation the bank will not understand. If you still want to take a chance then start right now getting a job at a drug store as a tech or cashier maybe that will increase your chances after graduation and learn to kiss butt it isnt how good you are but who you know.Good Luck

Hey you should not stay in NJ and move around. Pharmacist is in high demand and you can get a job easily.

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Hello in Dumfries, United Kingdom

39 months ago

nix in Brampton, Ontario said: Hey you should not stay in NJ and move around. Pharmacist is in high demand and you can get a job easily.

Where exactly?????

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nix in Brampton, Ontario

39 months ago

you have you Pharm Degree. Look around in other states. I'm from Ontario, and i know pharmacist are really in demand up here. You should move here and not waste time.

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nix in Brampton, Ontario

39 months ago

was pharmacy the right choice? in Leicester, United Kingdom said: I agree, the UK situation is not any better at all. I remember reading a few months ago that there were going to be a few more pharmacy schools were going to open up with a vision of creating a 5 year MPharm course integrating the pre-qualification year within the undergraduate course (in order for the GPhc - General Pharmaceutical Counicl to look favorably on them). Oh in a recent edition of "regulate" (our GPhC magazine) they said that "monitoring the job levels for Pharmacy graduates was not there concern" (or something along that line!) - clearly they seem not to care about massive numbers of pharmacy graduates without a job.

It's a shame that the profession will get saturated.

All of my friends have all gone in to community (retail) pharmacy, and are earning in the region of £35,000 (approx $56,000), whereas my Junior wage is only in the region of £27,500 (approx $44,000), and will soon drop because of Agenda for change! (they will eventually get rid of the emergency commitment pay for working overnight), and currently there are 8 (and soon to be 7) of us doing the job where there should be 12 (NHS fiances are going down the pan!)

I don't understand how you American Pharmacist complain about the job. $100,000 is almost £60,000!!! - a very small portion of UK pharmacists would ever earn this much!
An average community/retail pharmacist would earn up to approx £45,000, and and average hospital pharmacist around £39,000.

your in UK thats you situation. Due to the Economy in the US or Canada a Phamacy job can be found easily

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GH in Edmonton, Alberta

39 months ago

Hey guys...

I was really depressed when I saw this thread :( I am in my undergrad right now, busting my ass off to maintain a high GPA so I can get into pharm. As much as I don't want to believe that any of the above comments are true (I think the situation is a bit better in Canada though), I think I will not be pursuing pharm anymore.
I hate it how pharmacists get no respect and are treated like cashiers, when in reality our GPAs are just as high as medical students. IT sucks that you can't apply your knowledge are stuck in the back of some counter on the computer/filling the prescriptions. Where is the satisfaction in that?

Time to find some other career *groan*. I guess in reality, every single job sucks, you just have to find the one that sucks the least. Pharmacy seems to suck ALOT.

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Rxc in Los Angeles, California

39 months ago

That's the thing. You hit the nail right on the head. While
Most people are talking on this thread about face value of 100kplus income, there is so much more to take into account like the amount of hard work and academic accomplishment required, GPA and otherwise, before hitting the work field. I wish ppl would stop comparing with other fields that pay lower/equal/higher income while not comparing the caliber and length of studies and training involved. Some are complaining that we are complaining about our pay. To clarify we are complaining the amount of pay that comes with disrespect and sh&$ty treatment we get don't measure up all that we have done to get there.

GH, if you don't really have the passion for pharmacy then drop it before it's too late. Yes there are few and only handful of rewarding positions out there. But my opinion is that you should follow what you enjoy and love to do, not the dollar sign or the "stability" in the job market. Nothing is safe from a bad job market. If you still want something in health field then maybe physical therapy?? Hopefully you know in your gut what you truly want to do.

GH in Edmonton, Alberta said: Hey guys...

I was really depressed when I saw this thread :( I am in my undergrad right now, busting my ass off to maintain a high GPA so I can get into pharm. As much as I don't want to believe that any of the above comments are true (I think the situation is a bit better in Canada though), I think I will not be pursuing pharm anymore.
I hate it how pharmacists get no respect and are treated like cashiers, when in reality our GPAs are just as high as medical students. IT sucks that you can't apply your knowledge are stuck in the back of some counter on the computer/filling the prescriptions. Where is the satisfaction in that?

Time to find some other career *groan*. I guess in reality, every single job sucks, you just have to find the one that sucks the least. Pharmacy seems to suck ALOT.

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GH in Edmonton, Alberta

39 months ago

Rxc in Los Angeles, California said:
GH, if you don't really have the passion for pharmacy then drop it before it's too late. Yes there are few and only handful of rewarding positions out there. But my opinion is that you should follow what you enjoy and love to do, not the dollar sign or the "stability" in the job market. Nothing is safe from a bad job market. If you still want something in health field then maybe physical therapy?? Hopefully you know in your gut what you truly want to do.

Thanks for your reply :) I have been up all night trying to figure out what I want to do, after I realized that pharmacy isn't for me. Deep down, my passion is naturopathic medicine (how ironic right? haha); but there is little job stability/security in that. I #1 interest is diet and it's role in reversing chronic diseases... and I know many people are going to tell me to become a dietitian, but seriously, you need a 3.0 GPA to enter that field. How pathetic- I sacrificed my social life during undergrad for nothing haha.

Thanks for everyone who contributed to this thread, really opened up my eyes!

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cheech in Bronx, New York

39 months ago

Im a Nurse of 5 years. Thinking of going back and trying pharmacy. its worth a shot... I still have my first profession if it doesnt work out, ad the prereqs some of them can be used toward CRNA pre req. Everything you invest in has a risk. best to have a plan B just incase Plan A doesnt work out

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electric_eye in Kathmandu, Nepal

38 months ago

haha all u guys are funny.....making people not to go to pharmacy school because ur pays are being cut or the competition is getting little hard? all the students dont worry about the career after getting through the pharmacy school..take my guarantee u'll make atleast 80k... though i am a pharmacist in eastern world, Nepal i am happy that i chose pharmacy as my career... i wanna ask these people out here name one profession from whic u can make easy money except smuggling?? you will have to work hard in each and every job... n there is very tough competition in each and every professions...

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usedRph in Madison, Alabama

38 months ago

David in Atlanta, Georgia said: As a pharmacist and a student of economics as a hobby, I would not advise anyone to go into pharmacy. It will only continue its downward spiral with each coming year. When you add up all the facts, disaster is a sure bet. Let's start with too many pharmacy schools. Add the shrinking of retail settings and increased mechanization of the lick and stick aspects of pharmacy and a growing dependency on techs. Couple all of this with an economy that will probably never recover and may even have a 40 to 50 percent unemployment rate in the next five years and you have a total meltdown. Good middle class jobs have and will be gone overseas and without a vibrant middle class, many pharmacies will fold up. If you are lucky enough to find a pharmacy job, your top pay will be in the 30 to 40k range. If you have a 200k debt, you will have to work until you are 90 to pay it off.
At this point many of you are saying, this guys crazy, but when it happens you will remember this obscure comment.

Have you noticed the supply shortages yet?

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CeCe Mocha68 in Loganville, Georgia

38 months ago

Is anyone working in a small, town, family-owned type of pharmacy? I've heard of an opening and wonder if it's any better than the chain pharmacies. Thanks.

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ralph in Santa Monica, California

38 months ago

CeCe Mocha68 in Loganville, Georgia said: Is anyone working in a small, town, family-owned type of pharmacy? I've heard of an opening and wonder if it's any better than the chain pharmacies. Thanks.

Small, independents are MUCH better. The drawbacks are little benefits and probably lower pay. But the qualify of life is better. Depending on the community, you can build a good rapport with the patients and actually have time to help them the way you want to. But I don't know if there are many small non-chain pharmacies that are not being eaten up by the big chains monsters. The small guys are barely alive, hence job security might not be there. But then again, there is always an exception and maybe the opening you're looking at might have its own profitable niche. Good luck!

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Ghost in Brooklyn, New York

38 months ago

It sounds so silly but this thread has actually swayed me to quit my pursuit of pharmacy. I had already been questioning whether or not I wanted to continue in the field. The biggest deterrent for me was price of the degree. After six years (accelerated program) of pharmacy, I would be burdened with over $200,000 of student loans. The graduate years (last two) are excluded from scholarships!

The only thing that kept me in the field was my thinking that it would lead to a well-paying and easygoing job. Assuming you guys are presenting me with legitimate information, then I have been seriously deluded.

After half a year of pharmacy, I am dropping out and turning to another school and career. I hope I've made the right decision.

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CeCe Mocha68 in Loganville, Georgia

38 months ago

ralph in Santa Monica, California said: Small, independents are MUCH better. The drawbacks are little benefits and probably lower pay. But the qualify of life is better. Depending on the community, you can build a good rapport with the patients and actually have time to help them the way you want to. But I don't know if there are many small non-chain pharmacies that are not being eaten up by the big chains monsters. The small guys are barely alive, hence job security might not be there. But then again, there is always an exception and maybe the opening you're looking at might have its own profitable niche. Good luck!

Regarding small independent, family-owned pharmacy: So I know if I'm being offered a fair salary, what would you say is a fair percentage less than chain pharmacy salaries?

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David in Atlanta, Georgia

38 months ago

You were on your own Titanic, but you saw the iceberg! Now you can steer your ship to safety and a promising field.

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