Why Lincoln vs. Miller for pipe welding?

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Hillbilly_Welder in Waco, Texas

74 months ago

Whats the big deal about lincoln, they have 60% duty cycle as compared to mill @ !00% duty cycle. can anyone explain this to me

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Hillbilly_Welder in Waco, Texas

74 months ago

I like the Miller Trailblazer Pro 350 Diesel because it has AC/DC capability but I like the style of the Lincoln SA-250. I appericiate the info. If I can ever get on with the 798 and advance to Welder, I'll probably get an SA-250 or Classic 300.

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Scott in Norfolk, Virginia

74 months ago

Personally, I'm a Miller guy, because I've always thought that Miller had a more focused and smooth arc. The engines in the old diesel SA 250's we're better than the ones in the Big 50 Millers, but that's changed here the last couple of years. I've got 3 machines, two Millers and a Lincoln, and I use my Millers more because they fine tune better. As far as the duty cycles, they are comparable between the two if you're comparing the same size machines. Most Millers are only going to get 60% if you're running them @ 200 amps or more. Nowadays with the advance of electronics, it's more of a personal preference than anything. I'll weld a cat's ass to a plate glass window with either of them, I'd just rather do it with a Miller.

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Shaneco in Ava, Missouri

70 months ago

What year did Lincoln start putting aluminum windings in their welders?

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franko8 in Tewksbury, Massachusetts

68 months ago

i have been welding with a older 200 for 30 yr.

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jeremy zohn in Kennewick, Washington

67 months ago

Oregon J. in Beaverton, Oregon said: I'm a welder for the Boilermakers, and we use both brands of welders. Both are fine and can produce the same x-ray quality weld. The Miller Big 40 is an incredibly good machine for code work.

howdy, are you a union guy there in oregon? im a student in washington looking into options around here.

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ironsport in Oregon, Illinois

67 months ago

jeremy zohn in Kennewick, Washington said: howdy, are you a union guy there in oregon? im a student in washington looking into options around here.

yes but im not from oregon dont know why it says that *Igot friend out that way says some work out spokane way

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sheilametals in Bethel, Maine

67 months ago

I'm looking at a 2002 Lincoln Classic III with 4000 hours on it. It's on a Dodge Ram and comes with about 300' of lead. Anyone care to engage me in discussion about what it's worth?

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ironsport in random lake, Wisconsin

66 months ago

I love my pipe-pro got a good price on it 10400 same as a 200d.Ifeel it is a more verstile machine and it puts out 400 plus amps it has excellent arc it downhills as good or better than any lincoln ive ever used I will say it took me awhile to find its sweet spot but once I did well what can I say other than I am satisfied with my money spent it is a woderful tig unit as well best there is just my opinion

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Jared Finley in Denton, Texas

65 months ago

They all have there perks but Lincoln is used because when they break down 75% of your parts can be picked up at any automotive parts store easy to work on and will run as long as you are willing to throw money at it

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phantom in Lilburn, Georgia

61 months ago

i agree with dio up there .....i just bought a sa 200 from the 60s all copper ..it welds like a dream. you wont know what the diff between aluminum and copper till you weld with a copper coiled machine ...its like melting butter so smooth.

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rick in Eden, North Carolina

61 months ago

i was looking at a 64 redface so the guy let me weld with it man u are right it welded like a dream smoothest arc and start but it was on its last legs mechanically i mean this thing was old so i settled for a sa250 from early 90s almost cherry that way i can run fluxcore and arc gouging without any hassles i do know what u mean about the copper though i just wish it had been a little less used ,too bad i couldnt put that genset on my newer machine, back then was as true dc as it gets

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old pipeliners never die in Thief River Falls, Minnesota

59 months ago

Ive been pipelining for 36 years and Ive used the same 1952lincoln 200 shorthood for 32 of them. You try to find a guy that can say that about a miller, or anything else for that matter, they are all good machines but you start welding 12+ hours a day 6 days a week you better buy yourself a lincoln sa 200, the older the better,just like the running it...lol...

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rick in Eden, North Carolina

59 months ago

as far as duty cycle mine is 60% but hell who can weld faster than that?or who would want to i need a break every now and then aint no robot ,thats why i went into business for myself cause older i get... them formen really started buggin me with all that cracking the whip crap specially the younger ones make ya feel like knocking the chip off thier shoulder...then again ive always had a problem with authority lol

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old pipeliners never die in Thief River Falls, Minnesota

59 months ago

I hear you Rick in Eden, couldnt agree more

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matt in Perris, California

59 months ago

Hillbilly_Welder in Waco, Texas said: Whats the big deal about lincoln, they have 60% duty cycle as compared to mill @ !00% duty cycle. can anyone explain this to me

i asked the same thing 30 years ago ! they told me if i needed 100%duty cycle your workin too hard !!!! so i bot a lincon sam 400.first one lasted 14 years.had to replace a water pump. stil running my 2 nd one. miller portable, ya right!! also check the repair shops. 10 millers mabey a lincon. their shop machines are ok but portable are AC with dc converter. 90% of your work is dc. also millers have aluminum windings. any more questions?

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jschulte11 in Magazine, Arkansas

59 months ago

Hillbilly_Welder in Waco, Texas said: Whats the big deal about lincoln, they have 60% duty cycle as compared to mill @ !00% duty cycle. can anyone explain this to me

well, my sa200 can burn 3/16" rods for 8 hours in a 10hr day, so much for that 60% duty cycle!! Actually, duty cycle as measured by LINCOLN, is at MAX output, wich is well over 200 amps DC, i guess if u were burning rods over 1/4" u may run into that 6 out on 10 minute thing, but not likely in normal work.

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jschulte11 in Magazine, Arkansas

59 months ago

BTW, mine is an unmolested 1965 redface!

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rick in Eden, North Carolina

59 months ago

i hear ya ,if you can outrun my sa250 on duty cycle you are one hell of a welder ,i dont care to work that hard myself ...duty cycle means nothing to me unless i was running wire then i might exceed it

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rick in Eden, North Carolina

59 months ago

thing i want to know is if im running carbon airarc can i run an electric compressor off my generator at the same time without shortening the life expectnacy of my machine?

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Bodie in Breckenridge, Texas

58 months ago

rick in Eden, North Carolina said: i was looking at a 64 redface so the guy let me weld with it man u are right it welded like a dream smoothest arc and start but it was on its last legs mechanically i mean this thing was old so i settled for a sa250 from early 90s almost cherry that way i can run fluxcore and arc gouging without any hassles i do know what u mean about the copper though i just wish it had been a little less used ,too bad i couldnt put that genset on my newer machine, back then was as true dc as it gets

who has this 64 redface if u dont mind me asking, this caught my eye when u said its last leg mechanically, it doesnt matter to me if it runs or not, its just a thing. thanks.

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rick in Linden, North Carolina

58 months ago

its on raliegh craigslist,hes a contractor going out of business he used it for welding on his equipment,give me a day i can look it up for you and give you the number if you like,i could have got it for 700 bucks,i tried it out it welded like a dream,but the rest was as i said in bad shape,but it did run and it is towable tariler mounted,would be a great rebuild project

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rick in Linden, North Carolina

58 months ago

here ya go:

Sewer and Water Utility Company selling off well maintained equipment.
Contact Bob at nine-one -nine-4-two-7-four-six-5-seven or RossiUtilities@nc.rr.com for pricing.

Caterpillar 225 BLC Excavator
Caterpillar 215 Excavator
Caterpillar D4C LGP
Hamm 2210 SSD Vibratory Pad Foot Roller
1989 Mack Tri-axle tractor
50 ton Rogers low boy
1992 Ford F-450 Super Duty Dump Truck
1963 Mack B-61 Single axle dump truck, {10’ rock bed}
Rammax trench roller, Manual Control
Rammax trench roller, Manual & Remote Control
Diamond Trench Wheel Compactor, small
Diamond Trench Wheel Compactors, large
Galion 3-5 Ton Asphalt Roller
Homemade 4” auger test drill, {trailer type}
Lincoln 200 amp gas powered welder on trailer

that was months ago you could probly get it cheaper than that

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Bodie in Breckenridge, Texas

58 months ago

thanks for responding, i would be interested in that phone number if u get time.

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rick in Linden, North Carolina

58 months ago

Bodie in Breckenridge, Texas said: thanks for responding, i would be interested in that phone number if u get time.

Contact Bob at nine-one -nine-4-two-7-four-six-5-seven or RossiUtilities@nc.rr.com for

i had to put it like that because it wouldnt let me post the number

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leonard in Forsyth, Montana

57 months ago

jeremy zohn in Kennewick, Washington said: howdy, are you a union guy there in oregon? im a student in washington looking into options around here.
i know thair are good unions out will teach you to be a good welder . al most ever union guy i know are moor than happy to get you on a good job with good benefits

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Big B in Amite, Louisiana

56 months ago

Looking for name and telephone # for older man around Prarieville,Gonzales,La area, that repairs/rebuilds Lincoln 200's.

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ken wiggins in morgan city, Louisiana

56 months ago

New Lincoln SA-200 Fowler Mainliner Pipeliner for SALE! www.fowlerenginesllc.com

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Big B in Amite, Louisiana

56 months ago

Let me rephrase my question. Looking for someone to completely overhaul Lincoln Sa-200 generator only!!! Will not use arcco, big 3 or similar companies. Had bad luck in the past, need knowledgeable individual in business.

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ken wiggins in morgan city, Louisiana

56 months ago

Tom Fowler (my father-n-law) has several Patents one of them is his own generator end coil called the 7 selector. He is the best in the business. Visit our sister company www.hybriweld.com and you can get intouch with him that way since I cant put his number on here for you. Go in your web browser and put in his name you will be amazed with his reputation of excellence and knowledge of Lincoln 200's and 250's. Call Him tomorrow morning youll be glad you did.

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ken wiggins in morgan city, Louisiana

56 months ago

Welder parts sales is Tom Fowlers Company, Hybriweld and Fowler Engine are his kids companies. If for some odd reason you cant get intouch with him go to my web and call me, Ill get Tom or his specialist (peter) to help you out.

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scott

56 months ago

Hillbilly_Welder in Waco, Texas said: Whats the big deal about lincoln, they have 60% duty cycle as compared to mill @ !00% duty cycle. can anyone explain this to me

i am lookin for a short hood !!!! thanks!!!!!...scottp2586@yahoo.com

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ken wiggins in morgan city, Louisiana

56 months ago

My Lincoln has a 100% Duty Cycle, Its all about whats inside

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ken wiggins in morgan city, Louisiana

56 months ago

My Lincoln SA-200 Fowler Mainliner Pipeliner im selling for $7,500 smokes all other Welders. Forget about Duty Cycle let talk about how smooth does you machine really weld? Hell We can turn any Lincoln into a better than Miller Machine, Why cause we make them...

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ken wiggins in morgan city, Louisiana

56 months ago

ken wiggins in morgan city, Louisiana said: My Lincoln SA-200 Fowler Mainliner Pipeliner im selling for $7,500 smokes all other Welders. Forget about Duty Cycle let talk about how smooth does you machine really weld? Hell We can turn any Lincoln into a better than Miller Machine, Why cause we make them...

Go to my website and give me a call today i might be able to help you out with a short hood if you dont want mine.

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ken wiggins in morgan city, Louisiana

56 months ago

Big B in Amite, Louisiana said: Let me rephrase my question. Looking for someone to completely overhaul Lincoln Sa-200 generator only!!! Will not use arcco, big 3 or similar companies. Had bad luck in the past, need knowledgeable individual in business.

Hi, I was just wondering if you were able to speak with Tom Fowler today after we talked? The number you called was my business phone thats why I gave you the other number even tho we all work in the same shops togeather. Let me know if you need anything else. Thanks Ken

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Big B in Amite, Louisiana

56 months ago

Yes I was able to speak to him. Very pleased with the response and knowledge. Will be doing business with him in the very near future. Your help was greatly appreciated. Thanks for the tip!!! Looking forward to making your aquaintance.

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welderforhire

56 months ago

scott said: i am lookin for a short hood !!!! thanks!!!!!...scottp2586@yahoo.com

1957 shorty last year they made the best machine ever. how much do you want to spend i have 1 that has been completely restored. tried to keep the old school theme. all new upgrades p.c board, oil filter flip, high torque starter, zenith carb, custom altenator, custom mag. 8mm steel core race wires, all new seals and gaskets, new radiator, numbers matching motor, armeture, face plate. i even matched the original hood stickers.murphy switches, cables remote,one of the baddest short hoods out there makes all other lincolns bow down to the original pipeliner !!!!!
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scott

56 months ago

do you have any pics that i could look at!! thanks scott in montana

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scott

56 months ago

i have a 300d that i sent him he put in a yanmar and 7 gears plus the ack force welds great!!!!!!!!! i am lookin for a short hood!!!!!! thanks scott

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scott

56 months ago

welderforhire said: 1957 shorty last year they made the best machine ever. how much do you want to spend i have 1 that has been completely restored. tried to keep the old school theme. all new upgrades p.c board, oil filter flip, high torque starter, zenith carb, custom altenator, custom mag. 8mm steel core race wires, all new seals and gaskets, new radiator, numbers matching motor, armeture, face plate. i even matched the original hood stickers.murphy switches, cables remote,one of the baddest short hoods out there makes all other lincolns bow down to the original pipeliner !!!!!
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do you have any pics !! thanks scott

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welderforhire

56 months ago

send me your e-mail mine is jtsrigservice@yahoo.com i'll see if i can't take some this week

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ken wiggins in morgan city, Louisiana

56 months ago

my addy is fowlerengines@yahoo.com

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Fowlerengines in Franklin, Louisiana

56 months ago

Fowler Mainliner Pipeliner Soon to have a Kubota v2203 Diesel. www.fowlerengines.com

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scott

56 months ago

Fowlerengines in Franklin, Louisiana said: I have pictures on my website. www.fowlerenginesllc.com With the Continental F163 (gas) on it 8500.00 with the Kubota diesel $10500.00 everything inside this machine is our parts and all new.

I thought the fowler mainliner was chopped down? What happened to the yanmar motor ? SCOTT in montana............scottp2586@yahoo.com

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ken wiggins in Franklin, Louisiana

56 months ago

The Fowler Mainliner is not about Chopped or the Yanmars, its about the inside windings and the where and who built it .If you want a chopped down Mainliner with a yanmar it can be done BUT with the price tag of around 15g's, Want to buy one? How about the same exact machine but not chopped and powered by a Continental (gas) for lets say $8-9g's,now you can buy 2. Mr. Tom is about to do away with the Yanmar, Besides hes ready to retire.....

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scott

56 months ago

ken wiggins in Franklin, Louisiana said: The Fowler Mainliner is not about Chopped or the Yanmars, its about the inside windings and the where and who built it .If you want a chopped down Mainliner with a yanmar it can be done BUT with the price tag of around 15g's, Want to buy one? How about the same exact machine but not chopped and powered by a Continental (gas) for lets say $8-9g's,now you can buy 2. Mr. Tom is about to do away with the Yanmar, Besides hes ready to retire.....

I will have to call tom back cause he gave me a different price !!!! All i am saying is the machines that i have seen that he built have a fowler mainliner face plate on them!!!!thanks scott

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ken wiggins in Franklin, Louisiana

56 months ago

Yes you will need to call Mr. Tom and ask him prices. The prices I told you were a just around price that I was told and you know how that can be. He told me he dont put Mainliner stickers on them anymore and I dont know why? I wish I could keep the mainliner Legasy alive because I see and hear the reactions of the people that want and buy them.

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keyhole in owensboro, Kentucky

54 months ago

Does anybody know where i could find some new sheet metal for my SA-250. I had it damaged when the wind blowed a tree over on my barn. All pieces needed.

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fowlerenginesllc in Franklin, Louisiana

54 months ago

we might be able to help you please go to www.fowlerengines.com

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