Employers who don't respond to applicants

OK - maybe I'm crazy. Maybe I expect too much. Maybe not. I have found that employers and recruiters alike post opportunities on many different websites. They write these massive compliant job descriptions and skills requirements. They state what they want and need in difficult to follow terms. C'est la vie....right? Sure! But.....dedicated jobseekers like myself spend countless hours reading, reviewing, researching, and responding to these postings. Taking time to ascertain who the contact is that will be receiving the application or the hiring manager that will be making the decision. Sending documents into the recruiter for internships. Carefully crafted cover letters and resumes that focus in on making sure the candidate background is understood. Then - NOTHING! Not a simple response that "we have chosen other candidates" not a postcard, a phonecall, NADA! I have even learned that some HR departments and recruiters post job listings when they DON'T EVEN EXIST! They collect the candidate information or it's required based on guidelines! I'm interested to know if I am the only one who is experiencing this aggravation of wasting my time.

No, you are not the only one. I've applied for scores of jobs during the last couple of years. Few of my efforts have resulted in responses.

By no means am I excusing human resources departments and hiring managers, but you should look at it this way. Companies are bombed with scores of employment inquiries monthly or even weekly or daily. They don't have the manpower to acknowledge each inquiry. While some companies do acknowledge inquiries (and those that do deserve congratulations for being considerate and professional), it's unreasonable to expect responses from all of them.

With that said, some companies interview candidates in person in their offices but never followup with them. They don't even call, much less send rejection letters. Those companies and their interviewers are rude, inconsiderate and unprofessional in every way. They have no right to be so callous. They have earned and deserve every bit of scorn one can muster. On the other hand, it's just as well if you don't hear from them. The interview process cuts both ways. You are interviewing the company as much as it is interviewing you - and by not hearing from them you've learned something very valuable about how it treats its people.

Of course we all know that headhunters and similar nefarious souls post fake job listings.

Well thank you good soul for making me feel better about being ignored. It's not very often that someone can make someone else appreciate something negative until they realize that they're not alone. I agree with the praise for those that do reply. I would rather hear a rejection regardless of tone than silence. I suppose one could attribute this awful job market to the economy. Others could attribute it different factors influencing hiring. One thing is for certain, it's a tough, brutal process right now except for candidates that are select and rare. I guess I am one of the unfortunate ones that is well-done and plentiful.

losing_faith in Orlando, Florida: "I would rather hear a rejection regardless of tone than silence."

At least you know where you stand. But, again, no word within a reasonable period of time after an in-person, in-office interview also tells you where you stand.

"I suppose one could attribute this awful job market to the economy. Others could attribute it to different factors influencing hiring...."

....such as age discrimination. Being "overqualified," which, IMO, is secret code for age discrimination. Candidate oversaturation in specific industries. Etc.

Good luck with your job search. Don't worry so much about being ignored.

Sometimes you will hear about on the "Today show" with Matt Lauer that they are doing a segment about how to get a job and the things job applicants do wrong during the interview. THEY NEVER TALK OR DISCUSS THE PERSON REPRESENTING THE COMPANY WHO IS ACTUALLY DOING THE INTERVIEW AND HOW UNPROFESSIONAL AND SLOPPY THESES PEOPLE ARE. ABOUT 40 PERCENT OF THEM IN MY RECENT EXPERIENCE HAVE BEEN AWFUL. THEY FORGET THAT THEY ARE REPRESENTING THE COMPANY. I CAN'T WAIT TILL THESE PEOPLE LOSE THEIR JOBS AND THEY HAVE TO GO FOR INTERVIEWS.

dean suraci in Cornwall On Hudson, New York: "THEY NEVER TALK OR DISCUSS THE PERSON REPRESENTING THE COMPANY WHO IS ACTUALLY DOING THE INTERVIEW AND HOW UNPROFESSIONAL AND SLOPPY THESE PEOPLE ARE....THEY FORGET THAT THEY ARE REPRESENTING THE COMPANY...."

Absolutely. Interviewers are the company's ambassadors. They are the face(s) of the company to candidates. Scrutinize these people carefully during your interviews. They could soon be your coworkers. Ask yourself how you'd like working with them and for their company. Your answer may surprise you.

Hi Displaced, Funny seeing you here lol..
I gave up job hunting. I put in so many resumes my name must be all over the state of Florida by now. I've only heard from 3 companies and that has been in the last 4 month. Oh well!!

I'm like Chickenman; I'm everywhere, I'm everywhere!! :D

Thanks for reading this thread.

dean suraci in Cornwall On Hudson, New York said: Sometimes you will hear about on the "Today show" with Matt Lauer that they are doing a segment about how to get a job and the things job applicants do wrong during the interview. THEY NEVER TALK OR DISCUSS THE PERSON REPRESENTING THE COMPANY WHO IS ACTUALLY DOING THE INTERVIEW AND HOW UNPROFESSIONAL AND SLOPPY THESES PEOPLE ARE. ABOUT 40 PERCENT OF THEM IN MY RECENT EXPERIENCE HAVE BEEN AWFUL. THEY FORGET THAT THEY ARE REPRESENTING THE COMPANY. I CAN'T WAIT TILL THESE PEOPLE LOSE THEIR JOBS AND THEY HAVE TO GO FOR INTERVIEWS.

Perhaps it would shed them some light on what it means to be on the other side of the desk...

OK so if you and I started a business advertising a get rich quick scheme we would probably be indicted on fraud charges if one dollar changed hands. Corporate America advertises the same thing EXCEPT their ads are to make money by working. Candidates lose money on paper, ink, internet, time, research costs, and NOT to mention the mental anguish of fruitless labor. The end result is still the same regardless of the scenario -parties in both cases lost money on misleading offers yet prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it won't turn into if only that candidate met the "one" qualification he or she needed then the person would have been hired. Enter the double standard. Companies should NOT advertise positions unless they intend to hire. Even if we advertised a deceptive product BUT had no "intention" to sell it we would still feel the wrath of the situation.

losing_faith in Orlando, Florida: "Candidates lose money on paper, ink, internet, time, research costs, and NOT to mention the mental anguish of fruitless labor...."

I don't disagree, but job hunting expenses are tax-deductible if you itemize. Unfortunately, the mental anguish of fruitless labor is part and parcel of job hunting.

"Companies should NOT advertise positions unless they intend to hire...."

But they do it. They do it because they can.

My favorite are agency job postings on the major boards, such as Careerbuilder and Monster. No one will ever convince me the boards don't cut agencies sweet deals to post job listings. And, regarding Careerbuilder, I don't recall any direct-hire employer post any legal jobs on that board. I've only seen agency listings. Hmm, I wonder why that is?????????

LOL! I guess so. I foolishly upgraded my posting on CB to reveal who clicks my profile. I've had all kinds of hits from recruiters that have the SAME looking website design. I guess it's going to be an interesting year.

I thought about upgrading my resume listing. I wanted to see who is reading my resume, but I already know. Headhunters, and bogus/irrelevant insurance and securities sales from primarily obscure outfits. I realize most job board searches are automated and by keyword. To this day I don't understand how my background could be at all keyworded to peddling insurance and securites.

I applied to a job, went through the telephone interview which is a competency interview etc from a job posted on careerbuilder. The company said they would schedule an interview face to face which they did and that they had enough applicants. I saw the job reposted a month later. I called the recruiter at the company and said what gives?? He said that careerbuilder will automatically repost the same job if the company doesn't notify them even if the company has enough applicants. I asked him why they didn't notify them , he said they did but sometimes careerbuilder will repost anyway...so go fiquire..

losing_faith in Orlando, Florida: I have been facing similar issues, the worst thing the employers and recruiters do is not update the website once a job is filled or cancelled. I have been applying for 5 jobs in qualcomm for last one year wihtout any response and the posiition is still open. I have started calling whenever possible to find out if the jobs posted are open and more ofetn then not the jobs are already filled. It is so frustrating to find a job u like and then after all the form filling process you come to know the job does not exists. I have a phd and yet i cannot get a job...i really dont know what else I can do.

Displaced, I am beggining to like these posts very much since they hit home as you know from the other posts with BC and Kelly. This has been my complaint but I have a double whammy. I'm 63, qualified and never hear back from anyone (well maybe had 3 calls in 4 months). I get it ok, I'm 63, they think I can't do the job, I don't get it when they don't call back with a yes or no. All the interviewers say you are qualified when can you start? End of story, never hear from them again. I follow up with a nice thank you email if I am able to but refuse to call them.

Wow, reading this post has really made me realize I am not alone...I was starting to think I was crazy! Same thing w/me..I have applied to several jobs in the last 6 mos, and have heard back (declinations) from only 2. I get several phone calls offers to sell insurance. (I am licensed, but want to change career paths). No one seems to notice that I list several other qualifications on my resume; they see where I have worked for the past 10 yrs, and boom...they want me to sell!!!
Also am seeing the same jobs I applied for being run again on job sites. Very frustrating!
People have mentioned to me that I am probably overqualified for some of the positions I have applied for. Well, if I'm willing to work the job, accept the pay...I don't get it!
Find myself becoming bitter the longer this goes on...

Unemployed Property Manager in West Palm Beach, Florida: "I have a double whammy. I'm 63, qualified and never hear back from anyone (well maybe had 3 calls in 4 months). I get it ok, I'm 63, they think I can't do the job, I don't get it when they don't call back with a yes or no. All the interviewers say you are qualified when can you start? End of story, never hear from them again. I follow up with a nice thank you email if I am able to but refuse to call them."

It's simply out-and-out age discrimination. Institutionalized discrimination. It's absolutely illegal, but companies do it because they can. I have not heard any presidential candidate address age discrimination in employment, probably because none of them, and especially Mr. Business himself, Mitt Romney, want to antagonize business.

Per our discussions on the other thread, no, don't call them. Just like the old showbiz saw, don't call us, we'll call you.

dal77 in Columbus, Georgia: "People have mentioned to me that I am probably overqualified for some of the positions I have applied for. Well, if I'm willing to work the job, accept the pay...I don't get it!"

That happened a lot to my wife. She would be called in to interview and be told at the beginning of the interview she was overqualified. The interviewers never had an answer if she asked why she was called in to interview if she was overqualified. Interview experts will say that kind of remark is an opening for you to sell yourself. Perhaps - but why bother if the interviewer is so clearly unreceptive to you.

"Find myself becoming bitter the longer this goes on..."

Oh, I know! Try to hang in.

I agree that I'd rather hear a rejection than silence. But I don't expect a reply anymore -- companies just don't bother much anymore. If I have an e-mail address, I usually follow up. Sometimes I will hear that they have filled it; other times nothing. But the follow up would at least put me in front of the employer more so than others who have not done so.

I think it's critical that we don't get down on ourselves as low self esteem comes through when you're looking for a job. The excitement isn't there. And don't you often get what you think you will get?

Looking for a job today is way different than it was 20 years ago. You could actualy walk in MOST PLACES and fill out an application. Those days are gone for LARGE COMPANIES but I must say, small companies will talk to you! (they talk to me usually) And there are a lot of small companies out there!

If you are interested, here's a link to effective JOB SEARCH strategies from a website that is a good reminder that if you're ONLY looking on-line, you are up against a ton of other people. Check it out:
www.anexpertresume.com/pdf/Most_Effective_Techniques.pdf

I have to remind myself every day, "I have great job skills. I WILL get the right job soon!" :)

I tried posting my resume and BAM -- I was flooded with offers to sell insurance and financial products at 100% commission. No thanks. I took it off very promptly!

Definition of "overqualified" -- they think you want more money than they are willing to pay! Seriously! That's what it is.

I've also seen positions posted as ENTRY LEVEL and they clearly are not. They want Masters level skills but don't want to pay anything above $24,000 yr. They're hoping they'll snag a recent graduate who's sharp and who will work for that. They probably will, but they'll move on once they're experienced and get a better offer.

I am extremely relieved to read all of these posts discussing this issue in such a short amount of time. I guess an issue becomes a problem once it is clear how it affects population and the ultimate result. Case in point smoking was accepted by many and frowned on by some until monetary and human loss was quantified. Then it became a problem and awareness is growing. I wonder how long and at what cost this issue will take to develop itself into a solidifed and known "problem." Perhaps someone could design and host a candidate board. Candidatefiller.com - we can all then post ridiculously qualified candidates who can add immediate value to the workplace enviornment and let employers apply for them. Then we won't respond to 99% of them and we can fluctuate salary requirements. Degreed Professional wants 14K per year for lifetime career. Willing to become indentured servant and decline all benefits. Has 19 years experience in sales and revenue generation in excess of 500.0mm. Employers please fax your qualifications to (LOGIN TO VIEW) NO PHONE CALLS! EOExploiter

Hi all, I would like to just take a second to address this topic. I am a recruiter for a very large placement firm and I'm not going to lie I am guilty of this same thing. The main issue here usually boils down to time. I, just like you have only 24 hours in a day usually 8-9 of which is at work. When I have a job posting out there, depending on the position I usually get between 60-100 resumes a week for each position and I usually have 4-5 going at once. Sometimes I can't even get through all the resumes, let alone responding to them. To be able to respond to everyone would take almost my entire day and I would never actually be able to find that right person which in the end may be you. Unfortunately even at a company my size we don't have any way of clicking a button to automatically send out an email saying 'Thank you, but you're just not a fit', because of the way we interface with job boards. So please take this into account, that we're not all horrible people that want to screw you over. One thing I will say though, is even though alot of times I put No phone calls, if someone calls me I take the time to talk to them and go over their resume with them on the phone..

Some of you recruiters are horrible people. Some of you are rude. Some of you are very pushy. Some of you lie. Some of you don't keep your word. Some of you run ads for jobs that are, amazingly, filled moments after a candidate arrives for an interview. And then some of you try to shove unwitting candidates into jobs for which they are not remotely qualified.

I will give you your statement that you cannot respond to every candidate because of the onslaught of resumes.

It's good to see both sides of the story with the Recruiter posting. Now for one minute Recruiter put yourself in our shoes. You know you have the credentials to full the position. You arrive at the company, hair cut, shoes polished,nicely dressed with resume in hand. You have butterflies in your stomach and your head is splitting from nerves. You sit at the desk facing eiher gender. They start their conversation ok now tell me about yourself. We are thinking "you have the resume in front of you stupid what do you think I'm going to say?" - You smile politley and begin stating what you have accomplished, where and how you got started etc. Now 5 minutes have passed, the "face" is still starring at you waiting for more. You become silent, wondering what else is there? Now your face become frowned, eyebrows together wondering what else do they want? Finally, the interviewer open their mouth. I see by your resume that you worked at Such & Such for only 1 year why did you leave? I left because of the pay scale and a better position? So, you feel our company can offer you more? Yes, based on my qualifications and past experience in this field I do. Would you mind a background check. No not at all I would welcome one. I have had background checks before so I know I will come through with flying colors. Yes, I can see that but you know I have to follow procedures. Do you mind taking a drug test now? Again, no problem. Ok when can you start? I can start next Monday. That is great. We will call you, lets say, Thursday or Friday? Yes that would be fine, I look forward to your call. Thank you blah blah. You sit by the phone not daring to go out of the house. Thursday comes and goes, you say to yourself ok, maybe they got busy. I know I have the job, they almost said so. Friday comes, you anxiously sit by the phone, you know you will start Monday at 8AM sharpe. 3pm rolls around, still no phone call you chaulk it off to oh it's Friday, they must be wrapping up paperwork. 4:15PM

rolls around, again, they must be wrapping up for the weekend. 5pm comes and goes, 5:30pm,you know they work until 6pm. 6:30 comes and there you sit wondering why didn't anyone call me? What did I do wrong??? You know you did nothing wrong, the interviewer gave no indication that you weren't suited for the position. Drug test, background screening, it all fit? So now tell me Recruiter does this sound anything close to what you have gone through or put others through? Granted you take applicaitons + resumes but have you ever considered you need to slow down and really read those resumes? Have you taken into account there is a real live person attached to that paperwork? Perhaps, you need someone to weed out the qualifed people from those who are not. Again, remember we are all qualified in one way or another. We, the interviewee's realize you are busy but please take a second and treat us like humans. This is nothing personal since I do not know you at all. Have a nice day.

Unemployed Property Manager in West Palm Beach, Florida: "We, the interviewee's realize you are busy but please take a second and treat us like humans...."

Don't hold your breath because it's never gonna happen.

I have to agree with the above. I recently had an interview w/a very large company in my area. I did all my "homework", researched the company, scoped out the company campus to be sure I would know exactly where I was going, etc. I arrived 10 minutes early, and when I tried to enter through the door of the personnel office, it was locked. A sign read that anyone entering must have an employee card to open the door. I rang the intercom button, and someone came to the door- I informed them who I was there to see, gave him my name, and he said, "Just a minute", and shut the door, leaving me outside. Five minutes passed, and an employee came up to enter the building, asked me who I was there to see, etc..same scenario..he entered, and never came back. After 10 MORE minutes, I was getting disgusted and was ready to leave, when the doors opened and a man told me to sit in the lobby. And about 5 minutes later, two men greeted me, and introduced themselves. I introduced myself, and told them who I was there to see, and one of them informed me that they "couldn't find" the woman who was supposed to interview me, so I would be seeing both of them. Needless to say, I already had the red flag going on...very unprofessional! I won't go on as to the details of the interview, but just wanted to vent about my initial impression of this company. If their treatment of prospective employees is any indication, makes one wonder about their customer service skills, which they say they pride themselves on!
BTW, thanks all for listening...it's good to be able to get this stuff off my chest. Sometimes I think the folks that I talk to who have never been in this position think I'm just complaining about nothing.

I don't think you're complaining. I think all of us are exposing the "dateline" ready material that these employers and recruiters put people through. Pretty soon some jack-donkey will come up with a fair and just scoring system to rate candidates with a range from 300 to 800 so noone has to review each file anymore. All the recruiters and responsible persons blame their lack of time and shortage of staffing YET if we had that attitude about why we left a job it would be used against. Once again: Double Standard. How about for once as mentioned several times you start reading and actually digesting the candidate profile before you quickly decline it. At the very least your ethical responsibility to society based on your skills should be to properly process a thought. Let's review what happpens when folks don't process information in real time and digest the environment they are creating - housing crisis, credit woes, global warming, yada yada yada. I personally think you're excuse is subjective and that means you're still not thinking from the other side of the desk. I'm not saying blaze new trails but maybe, just maybe, looking at your map before you choose which path to follow wouldn't be such a bad idea. Oh, nevermind, I forgot, everyone has a GPS now and it's all automated with the best route.

dal77 in Columbus, Georgia: "I recently had an interview w/a very large company in my area....If their treatment of prospective employees is any indication, makes one wonder about their customer service skills, which they say they pride themselves on!"

Sure. I learned the hard way. Scrutinize each and every aspect of the interview. Hold the place to your highest standard. Pay special attention to the employees deal with each other and, of course, how they deal with you. Consider the overall process, from the initial call, telephone interview, in-person interview and followup thereafter (fat chance of that anymore!). After the interview you ask yourself why you even thought about applying in the first place.

Good luck with your job search.

dal77 in Columbus, Georgia: "I recently had an interview w/a very large company in my area....If their treatment of prospective employees is any indication, makes one wonder about their customer service skills, which they say they pride themselves on!"

Sure. I learned the hard way. Scrutinize each and every aspect of the interview. Hold the place to your highest standard. Pay special attention to how the employees deal with each other and, of course, how they deal with you. Consider the overall process, from the initial call, telephone interview, in-person interview and followup thereafter (fat chance of that anymore!). After the interview you may find yourself asking why you even thought about applying in the first place.

Good luck with your job search.

That's exactly what I found myself saying out loud when I finished the interview! (in the privacy of my vehicle, of course!)
And just to touch on the subject of prospective employee interviewing the company - the interviewer who conducted most of the interview seemed uncomfortable when it was my turn to ask questions about the company, typical work day, etc...he struggled through that part of the interview, and actually looked a little relieved when I left!

I just checked out Indeed to see if a position I sent my resume and application to was still available. Yep, it was reposted 3 hours ago!! So, no response from the company I applied to!! Goes to show you, they really don't care!

I just wanted everyone to know that I am going to think positive about all of these posts that everyone has made that something good will come out of it. Perhaps someone somewhere tomorrow will get a phone call telling them they're needed on Monday to come in and interview for the position of their dreams!!

Just know that you're not being singled out. Others have experienced the same stuff you have regarding duplicate job postings, repeated job postings and employers which do not acknowledge resumes and apps.

Good luck.

It’s called the BLACK HOLE! This is what we recruiters call the massive amounts of resumes and candidates that swarm our database. Also many times a job is posted because a req has been opened (for budgeting purposes) however the department doesn't really need to fill the position. They're just keeping it open so that they don't lose it.

As far as rude goes...can't help you there. I can say that if I responded to every person that sent me a resume I wouldn't have time to do much of anything. I'd suggest in person meetings as things go faster...I know that you're presentable to hiring managers and you know who to stalk.

Also for large corporations the only real way in (besides wasting away in the black hole) is through a referral! Find someone that works there most of the time they'll receive a referral bonus and you'll get noticed faster!

How 'bout an explanation for false ads, Mrs. Advice?

In the meantime, I have two recruiter stories. Nine years ago I wanted to change jobs. I had interviewed with a law firm and was rejected. That's how it goes. About a week after I was rejected, I answered an ad. A recruiter had placed the ad for a paralegal with my experience. I knew of this recruiter because she officed in my building. My firm had used her for temps. This recruiter had been operating her agency for several years when I had contacted her.

This recruiter agreed to see me on a Saturday, which I appreciated. She interviewed and tested me. While I was in her office, she badmouthed my then-firm. The recruiter said the shareholder would complain her temps were too expensive. Other than that, she seemed okay.

During my interview, the recruiter asked where I had applied. I inadvertently omitted the name of the firm that had rejected me. A few days later, the recruiter called me. As it turned out, that firm was her client. She reamed me for not giving her its name! She demanded to know if I was trying to make her look bad. She was very rude. I never heard from her again.

I do not understand how I could have made her look bad. So what if that firm/her client received my name twice? So what if I already interviewed there? What difference does it make? It's strictly my private business where I apply for work. Moreover, it is well known that recruiters pump candidates for new openings so they can push their services and their other candidates at these companies.

Continued next post.....

losing_faith in Orlando, Florida said: I just wanted everyone to know that I am going to think positive about all of these posts that everyone has made that something good will come out of it. Perhaps someone somewhere tomorrow will get a phone call telling them they're needed on Monday to come in and interview for the position of their dreams!!

I am sure this will help a great deal. I am going to buy a lottery ticket this weekend just in case it doesn't though.

Continued from above....

I had applied to a big-time local firm. I had applied to that firm for an advertised position three times about ten years ago. I was rejected each time. More recently, I applied to that firm twice. Again, I was rejected. A couple of months later, I saw on its website the firm was looking for a paralegal in my speciality. I did not apply but I had remembered how the ad was worded.

Two months ago, a recruiter responded to my online resume. She needed a paralegal in my speciality. Something seemed very familiar about her e-mail. As it turned out, her wording matched that law firm's paralegal posting nearly word-for-word! I responded that I knew the recruiter's client was that firm and it was not interested in me. She thanked me for my honesty. If this opening was supposed to be "confidential," certainly this recruiter was very stupid to lift the job posting off the website word-for-word.

I don't buy any of this "confidential opening" nonsense nor I will I put up with rudeness from any recruiter, even from a legitimate company.

Theslave in Manchester, United Kingdom: "I am sure this will help a great deal. I am going to buy a lottery ticket this weekend just in case it doesn't though."

Your odds of winning the lottery are better than for anyone getting a job anymore.

Mrs. Advice: "I can say that if I responded to every person that sent me a resume I wouldn't have time to do much of anything" Maybe you have a problem with time management? Why don't you hire me? I can filter those resumes that you can't find the time to do. Will be one heck of a commute but I'm after all "Unemployed". I'll pass the background check,drug test I can do Monday so I can start, let's say Wednesday? Get back to me ok?

Unemployed Property Manager in West Palm Beach, Florida said: Mrs. Advice: "I can say that if I responded to every person that sent me a resume I wouldn't have time to do much of anything" Maybe you have a problem with time management? Why don't you hire me? I can filter those resumes that you can't find the time to do. Will be one heck of a commute but I'm after all "Unemployed". I'll pass the background check,drug test I can do Monday so I can start, let's say Wednesday? Get back to me ok?

The problem is not so much time management but the fact that most recruiters are unable to in the first instance specify the available job correctly and in the second instance differntiate between the good CV's and those filled with complete and utter tosh. Hence it becomes a bit of a lucky draw and why you shouldn't trust people with the word 'agent' in their job title.

Theslave in Manchester, United Kingdom: "The problem is not so much time management but the fact that most recruiters are unable to in the first instance specify the available job correctly and in the second instance differntiate between the good CV's and those filled with complete and utter tosh...."

....because they don't understand the job, how to do the job, how the job relates to the company and the best people for the job. In short, they know nothing about the job and lack the perception to evaluate candidates accurately for the job.

Displaced Legal Professional in Denver, Colorado said: Theslave in Manchester, United Kingdom: "The problem is not so much time management but the fact that most recruiters are unable to in the first instance specify the available job correctly and in the second instance differntiate between the good CV's and those filled with complete and utter tosh...."

....because they don't understand the job, how to do the job, how the job relates to the company and the best people for the job. In short, they know nothing about the job and lack the perception to evaluate candidates accurately for the job.

I think you just said the same thing as me....

Just expanded on it a bit.

Displaced Legal Professional in Denver, Colorado said: Just expanded on it a bit.

I applied for a contract role recently. I had 8 years experience in my cv that related to the role. The agent read my cv and then emailed me the job spec asking me to cut and paste elements of it into my cv as he felt it needed 'enhancing'. Now if that doesn't tell you how useless some these people are nothing will.

You certainly don't have to tell me! Read my posts, above.

Thanks for posting.

Well Well Well. Human Resources has struck again. This time at 7:03am EST. I inquired last night via email with the HR contact who is soooo busy that she could not respond to my email. In fact, when I first inquired with the company it took her almost 2 weeks to respond. She shut me up by asking for me to forward my credentials - which I subsequently did. Over a week later GUESS!?!?! That's right sheep-dips NOTHING! She was too busy flossing her nails with a paperclip to respond. NOT! Here what it boils down to. If she was soooo busy she would not have responded for quite some time in consistency with the others - instead this time to shut me up she replied in less than 12 hours. Here's the response:

Hello XXXXXXX,

Thank you for checking in with us. We have received and reviewed your resume and at this time we have no openings that match your experience and qualifications. I wish you well in your career search.

Best regards,

To her I reply - Young lady you are one of the core reasons people won't like you for long - KARMA isn't your new shiny volkswagen

losing_faith in Orlando, Florida: "To her I reply - Young lady you are one of the core reasons people won't like you for long - KARMA isn't your new shiny volkswagen."

Very funny!! The young lady is undoubtedly too young to know which model VW of which you speak.