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expertstaffer in Little Rock, Arkansas

61 months ago

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I feel bad for the people coming in because honestly, many of them don't have a stable work history and not enough qualifications and training. They spend two long hours filling out paperwork and taking tests and are very hopeful that the staffing company is going to work hard at finding them a job.

I get calls everyday from people asking how the job search is going on our end. Some people call everyday of the week asking if there's something available. Even when I know there is something available or if I know that they're listed as a "do not use," I just simply tell them that we don't having anything available but that I can put them on our available list, because it's my job to do so. I can't tell them to not call us anymore because we're not going to find them a job...EVER.

Many of the jobs available are only temporary assignments. Few of them lead into long-term jobs. If you work hard and show up on time, they'll keep you for as long as orders are available because it's hard to find dependable people. My advice is to go ahead and go through the process, but don't stop there and hope they'll find you a job. If something comes up, great. If not, keep on trekking.

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Willieverfindajob in Georgia

61 months ago

expertstaffer in Little Rock, Arkansas said: (con't)

I feel bad for the people coming in because honestly, many of them don't have a stable work history and not enough qualifications and training. They spend two long hours filling out paperwork and taking tests and are very hopeful that the staffing company is going to work hard at finding them a job.

I get calls everyday from people asking how the job search is going on our end. Some people call everyday of the week asking if there's something available. Even when I know there is something available or if I know that they're listed as a "do not use," I just simply tell them that we don't having anything available but that I can put them on our available list, because it's my job to do so. I can't tell them to not call us anymore because we're not going to find them a job...EVER.

Many of the jobs available are only temporary assignments. Few of them lead into long-term jobs. If you work hard and show up on time, they'll keep you for as long as orders are available because it's hard to find dependable people. My advice is to go ahead and go through the process, but don't stop there and hope they'll find you a job. If something comes up, great. If not, keep on trekking.

So basically what you're saying is that these companies are completely useless. It's absolutely ridiculous to have people to come in and waste 2 hours of their damn time for fake ass ads. I thought the whole purpose of employment agencies were to help people find jobs. I am fully aware that the company works for their clients, however, their system is totally f***** up, as they really do not help most applicants, all it does is makes things worst. These companies should be ashame of themselves.

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expertstaffer in Des Moines, Iowa

61 months ago

The whole purpose of employment agencies isn't to help people find jobs...it's to make profit. If you actually go to a lot of these websites, they're actually more tailored to the companies hiring (clients) than to the people looking for jobs. It's only a part of their entire operation to help people find jobs.

I would say that they're not completely useless. I got my job going through the same process that all of my applicants go through. Finding a job takes work. So my point this entire time is that you shouldn't ever rely solely on an employment agency to find a job for you (which a majority of applicants do). It would be an entirely different story if you were paying them money, but you're not. You're going in there willing to spend 2 hours of your time on the chance that they'll find you a job. If you're a good applicant with stable work history, they'll try very hard to find something for you, after all, they make money off of you.

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Willieverfindajob in Georgia

61 months ago

All businesses are out there to make a profit, however, it shouldn't be their "whole purpose". Just as you stated in your last sentence:

"If you're a good applicant with stable work history, they'll try very hard to find something for you, after all, they make money off of you."

If their whole purpose is to make a profit, how is the profit made? It is made by hiring applicants, if not, it wouldn't be any profit. The same goes for all businesses. You have to provide some type of service...and for employment agencies, their job is find a candidate for the "so called" client they claim to have...which means they are providing a service to both the client and the candidate. It does no good at all to have clients, when you have no applicants because there is no profit. All companies should have some type of main objective (or purpose) besides making a profit. It's the same with potiential employees. Employers all know we need a job to make money so bills can be paid, but they want to know what we can bring to the company.

Some professions require true passion and compassion, of helping others while some don't and I personally don't think someone should be in a profession that requires this if they do not have it in them. Wouldn't make much sense for someone to work at a mental hospital if they didn't have the passion to help people...or become a social worker...or a doctor. The same goes for employment agencies. How would you feel if something happened to you and you went into the hospital for surgery and the doctor told you his whole purpose is to make money so he can ride around in his BMW, gee, what would you think???

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Willieverfindajob in Georgia

61 months ago

Yes you are correct, finding a job does take work, including TIME and patience...which is why these agencies should not be wasting people's valuable time with this nonsense. Simply put, if you do not have an opened position available, do not post. I'm pretty sure if people know these positions were fake, they would not waste their time replying.

And also I do not know anyone who solely rely on a temp agency. There are plenty of people who search for jobs everyday on their own, however, some think that going to an agency would better their chances, when actually, it makes its worse.

It would be an entirely different story if you were paying them money, but you're not??? Are you kidding me, lol, Mr./Mrs. expertstaffer...gee how in the world do they ever "make money off of you." Your quote, not mine. We may not pay upfront, but oh, we pay...the low wages proves that.

In my experience, these agencies do the same thing I am doing...hunting job...faxing resumes to these companies...which leads me to believe they do not have "clients" ... if they did, it wouldn't be a need to post fake or recurring ads, nor constantly call the HR depart in regards to openings, or call their applicants "pretending" like they care how their job search is going when all they want to know is what jobs the applicants have applied to so they can call the company. Why do you think when a company post an open position, 99% of time it says something to the effect of "Solicitation from outside/3rd party recruiters will not be entertained." ???

Overall, I can tell from your intitial post that you know these companies are wrong for what they do and how they treat these applicants, and if not, then shame on you.

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Kim in Chicago, Illinois

61 months ago

Staffing agencies have changed from what they used to be 20 years ago. If the economy was in much better shape and companies were hiring weather it be temp, temp to hire, or direct hire, they would be placing people. They keep advertising daily on the job boards when they don't have jobs. If they had all the jobs that they posted, many of us on this blog would be reporting that staffing firm X has sent me on 5 interviews and it has resulted in 2 offers. Staffing firms take your info and have to call your past companies to drum up business, if they had clients in a constant stream, they would not have to waste a good chunk of their day cold calling. They would be calling candidates and companies and setting up interviews and be making big money with the placements that come in. The first time I used a staffing agency I was just out of school and had no experience and they ALL called me at least once with something after 1 month. I already had a job after a few weeks, so I didn't need them anymore, but if I did they would have sent me on an interview or two. Here many people on this board have been out of work 1-2 years and have registered for a dozen or more agencies and most of them have not even offered to send a candidate on a single interview. Agencies probably have a huge stack of thousands of resumes, so if you have no experience, were a stay at home Mom for 10 years, were off of work for a few years to take care of a sick elderly relative, they probably have you on the "Do Not Use" list. They want someone with top honors in school, years of recent experience, can type 75wpm or better, under 35 and nice looking. Well a lot of people may not have the experience that is required, but they have the potencial if give a chance. Back in the day I have worked with many people who were completely new to the field, just out of school almost and turned out to be great assets to the company after a few years, they were promoted and remained with the company,

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Jon in Norwalk, Connecticut

61 months ago

Staffing agencies seemed to have gotten worse with every year. I used to sign up with them, and then, after a day or two, they would call me for a job. Now you are a job begger who is put on the list when you call to see if "anything is going on." I often wondered about the "Do Not Use List." I sure you need to have messed up on a previous job to get on that list.

They have gotten ruder over the years. So when you find someone who is nice, it is mind blowing. Note to temp agents, try to be nice.

Not to sound like a pig, but a lot of these agencies have young girls there. Is it just me, or does it just seem that way? Sometimes it can be annoying--especially if you know they were hired because they were perky and cute.

Another thing I noticed about temp agencies is that they have a high turnover rate. One day you are talking to Sheila, then the next day you are informed by a new person Sheila no longer works there anymore. Look at the resume of most temp agents on Linkedin, and you will see mobile, job hoppers. Ironic, I guess.

Funny story. I once was interviewed at a temp agency in Stamford, Ct. The guy who was interviewing me said he had to talk to someone and he will be back in a few minutes. While I waited in a small room for a long time, something like an hour, my hopes were slowly being diminished. Finally, I walked out to see where he was. An older man, I guess his boss, told me he was dismissed and that I should go home. How weird was that? You would think he would be polite to me since he did, after all, waste my time.

The point I am making is a lot of these agencies are manic depressive. It is a job any person could do, especially if you have the capital to back it up with.

Generally I think temp agencies should be outlawed or better regulated. Like, for instance, they they shouldn't be allowed to lie about jobs that don't exist on the internet. Not sure if regulation them is possible, but it is nice thought.

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Recruiter/Staffing 5+ yrs in Troy, Michigan

49 months ago

OK, so, i know you posted this a long time ago but, i just want to say --- I have been a recruiter/staffing specialist for the past 5 years... and i think you are right, there is a high turnover rate and what happened to you was really bizarre -- but, please do not make the assumption it is a job anyone could do -- the reason you see the turnover is because we are getting burned out -- this is the hardest job i have had in my life... and i have a good resume, and i come from a social work background. Every day i am disappointing someone, either a customer because i did not find them the "perfect match", a candidate because i didn't find them a job, my boss because i didn't call enough customers looking for feedback or leads, etc... my job entails, reports, interviews, sales calls, admin work up the wazoo, documentation, resume review, payroll processing and issues, HR issues, because after all if someone's unhappy they are my candidate... anyway, the point i'm trying to make is we do have orders, but maybe only a few a week -- and i've got a database of at least 100 people looking and i'm getting at least a dozen resumes a day... so yea, that is how many people i'm disappointing each day when i don't find them a job .... and just a note, expertstaffer in little rock has a lot of good things to say, very acurrate.

Jon in Norwalk, Connecticut said:
"The point I am making is a lot of these agencies are manic depressive. It is a job any person could do, especially if you have the capital to back it up with."

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Nanlisa in Upper Darby, Pennsylvania

49 months ago

Of course staffing agencies have changed. In my opinion, and from my experience, they have changed since 1998.

Back in the 1980's, I was able to call up a staffing agency, make an appointment, and go right on in; depending on the agency. Nowadays, they want you to send in a resume first. They have literally become the human resources departments for these companies.

At this stage in my job search, especially since the company that laid me off in January will be calling people back in either September or October, I'm not going to use any staffing agencies. I'm going to go directly to the companies instead. Most of the jobs that these staffing agencies get in are full-time, and I cannot work full-time because I'm on SSDI. I also don't want to have to accept a temporary assignment knowing that this place could call me back in either September or October. If I didn't have any other commitments, then yes, I would then apply to the staffing agencies. But at this time I don't want to do this.

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Nanlisa in Upper Darby, Pennsylvania

49 months ago

expertstaffer in Little Rock, Arkansas said: (con't)

I feel bad for the people coming in because honestly, many of them don't have a stable work history and not enough qualifications and training. They spend two long hours filling out paperwork and taking tests and are very hopeful that the staffing company is going to work hard at finding them a job.

I get calls everyday from people asking how the job search is going on our end. Some people call everyday of the week asking if there's something available. Even when I know there is something available or if I know that they're listed as a "do not use," I just simply tell them that we don't having anything available but that I can put them on our available list, because it's my job to do so. I can't tell them to not call us anymore because we're not going to find them a job...EVER.

Many of the jobs available are only temporary assignments. Few of them lead into long-term jobs. If you work hard and show up on time, they'll keep you for as long as orders are available because it's hard to find dependable people. My advice is to go ahead and go through the process, but don't stop there and hope they'll find you a job. If something comes up, great. If not, keep on trekking.

ExpertStaffer: You say that even you know that there's an opening, you will tell applicants that you'll put them down on the availability lists. What you are doing is lying to them and giving them false hope? Why can't you tell them that there is an opening and pass it on to the recruiter who is handling it? Why give somebody false hope; especially if they're looking for a job.

Secondly, not everybody today has a "stable" job history. Since 1983, I've been employed on and off at these telemarketing service agencies and market research firms. It is not my fault that they lay people off whenever there's no work. People might take a year or two off and go back to school.

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Nanlisa in Upper Darby, Pennsylvania

49 months ago

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Some people have to take care of a sick child or other family member. Some people are unemployed through no fault of their own. You shouldn't judge somebody simply because they don't have a stable employment history.

I completely disagree when you said that the purpose of an employment agency isn't to help find people jobs; it is to make a profit. It is an employment agency's job to help find people jobs that they're qualified for. This statement really bothers me.

I also disagree when staffing agencies post jobs that I assume are available, but just simply give me runaround. I've often asked if these are actual job openings or if this is another way to generate applicant's, and I've been told both. This is nothing but lying and false advertising right there. If the job is available; then say so. If not; then tell us. Why continue to give job applicants false hope?

This is not a personal attack against you; just the way that staffing agencies operate. The agency needs to put the applicant's needs first; and the client's needs second.

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JobSeaker in Topeka, Kansas

43 months ago

I have been in the systems of about 5 temp agencies in this city. Everyone I am with just has my information, but has yet to place me on an interview or job. I would say it was racism, but I really don't feel that is the issue. I have asked for help and made several phone calls to them for jobs and employment guidance. I am loosing hope. I honestly have had better luck finding a job on my own, but I want something that will last.

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Kim in Chicago, Illinois

43 months ago

Let me tell you about the biggest joke in the staffing industry. Robert Half also goes by the name OfficeTeam, and Accountemps. They are always looking for candidates on the job boards. I have been contacted several times by them, and each time it is a different person, as they don't last long on the job. They have told me that they have several jobs, but will not discuss these jobs till a time is set up to meet them. You go to the office and there are at least 5 other people in the waiting area to see a recuiter and take the online tests. I had an appoinment for 1pm and did not get out of the office till almost 5pm, all that time and they did not discuss a single job that they had to send me on. Then try calling them back, and you can never reach the person that you met with, always get bounced to other people, then after 6 months, they tell you that your tax forms "expire" and you have to come in again to do them again, as they shred them. I went into the office in Feb and Sept is the same year, how can they expire? I-9 forms are suppose to be good for 3 years is what someone else told me. I highly doubt that they shread anything, they just want to know what companies you temped at to get more leads. How can a company like that place people when they have an overflowing waiting area? Leads do not always result in clients, its a hard selling business and now wonder they are always getting different people each time they call me.

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Liz in Ajax, Ontario

43 months ago

I too am having similar experiences as you with these agencies. They sort of get your hopes up ie. i had a recruiter call me on the weekend about a position - full time, asked me to send her an updated resume..which i did. I followed up with her on the Monday as he asked and she sounded surprised to hear from me! After she had asked me to follow up with her. I asked her about what we had discussed and she said the hiring manager was currently in New York and she hadn't gotten a hold of him yet! I think a lot of them are just trying to keep you engaged hoping you won't disappear. They probably don't have solid positions as it is quite slow, but instead of being honest with you, they sort of give false hope. Mind you the positions may be legit but alot of times they have to wait on the client they are servicing. I had a couple of hopeful opportunities basically getting to the point where they were ready to interview, only to have the client change their mind and they sought other solutions elsewhere or so i was told.

Regarding those short term assignments...i wouldn't discount them or decline them unless of course the pay was really low and not worth your time. I was able to land a 2 year contract position which started out as a 1 month assignment at a large company...so it is a good way to get your foot in your door and network. Best of luck!

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Liz in Ajax, Ontario

43 months ago

I too am having similar experiences as you with these agencies. They sort of get your hopes up ie. i had a recruiter call me on the weekend about a position - full time, asked me to send her an updated resume..which i did. I followed up with her on the Monday as he asked and she sounded surprised to hear from me! After she had asked me to follow up with her. I asked her about what we had discussed and she said the hiring manager was currently in New York and she hadn't gotten a hold of him yet! I think a lot of them are just trying to keep you engaged hoping you won't disappear. They probably don't have solid positions as it is quite slow, but instead of being honest with you, they sort of give false hope. Mind you the positions may be legit but alot of times they have to wait on the client they are servicing. I had a couple of hopeful opportunities basically getting to the point where they were ready to interview, only to have the client change their mind and they sought other solutions elsewhere or so i was told.

Regarding those short term assignments...i wouldn't discount them or decline them unless of course the pay was really low and not worth your time. I was able to land a 2 year contract position which started out as a 1 month assignment at a large company...so it is a good way to get your foot in your door and network. Best of luck!

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Jon in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

42 months ago

I applied for a position on a job board on a Thursday evening. I received a call from the staffing agency on Friday afternoon saying they were sending my resume to their client. Less than an hour later the staffing agency called to ask if I could start work the following Monday. I hesitated to give them a reply for several reasons. First I would like to have interviewed with the client company to get a better feel for what the position involved. Second, it seemed odd that no reference check, no ID check, no background check was to be conducted prior to my beginning the assignment. After I emailed the staffing agency to say that I was no longer interested in this position, they began texting me on my cell phone to find out why; I simply told them I was no longer interested as I was pursuing other opportunities. The text messages continued, with comments that I was being "unprofessional" for not taking this assignment. There were emails from them saying basically that I would have difficulty finding another job and that this "incident" would be mentioned to other prospective employers in the area (basically a threat)should I apply for opportunities with these companies. In my thirty plus year career, I have never encountered anything like this before. There were enough red flags that I didn't feel comfortable taking this assignment. Has anyone else been here/done that ?

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Nanlisa in Upper Darby, Pennsylvania

42 months ago

Jon: They're the ones that are acting unprofessional. Since you told them that you weren't interested, they should have simply left you alone. All they're doing is just simply harassing you. And they have the nerve to tell you that you'll have difficulty finding another job! Who are they to judge? I believe that it's against the law for any employment to badmouth you.

You had every right to refuse the assignment. Suppose you went there and the job didn't work out? What if you didn't like the company? Or even the boss? What if you couldn't handle the work there?

As much as I complain about these agencies, they have to check your references and your background before they send you on a job. Most agencies' clients want a second interview before they make a decision.

This agency was very unprofessional to you. You may have refused an assignment, but they have no right to blackmail you. If they contact you again, tell them that they have no right to harass you and that you're taking your business elsewhere.

If I were you, I would go directly to the companies instead. Oh by the way, which agency was this?

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Heather in Aurora, Ontario

41 months ago

I was registered with OfficeTeam and spent about 3 hours doing typing tests and Microsoft Office scenarios, followed by an interview. At that time I gave the interviewer a sheet with three professional references, all high ranking individuals in Financial Services, Healthcare, and philanthropy. My previous employer does not give references, but will confirm details with any HR person. All of these references had actually worked with me in jobs or volunteer positions in the community. They had all known me for two years or more.

They called me about 2-3 jobs for which I was qualified for, but each time I spoke with someone, they asked me for references, telling me my references were "no good." I kept asking them why, and would they please contact my references as they were expecting to be contacted. They again insisted that they must speak to my supervisor or previous supervisors. Once again, I politely advised them that those people would not respond, and would merely refer them to HR. Unfortunately, this is a policy at that employer, not something just for me, but for everyone. Still, they persisted. Again, I asked them to contact my references.

Long story short, they never called them, and I stopped calling them. I've never had a lead from any agency, and I have responded for about 75 or so ads from different ones. I also concur that they are useless or so confounded by their own red tape that they are ineffective.

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Heather in Aurora, Ontario

41 months ago

I was registered with OfficeTeam and spent about 3 hours doing typing tests and Microsoft Office scenarios, followed by an interview. At that time I gave the interviewer a sheet with three professional references, all high ranking individuals in Financial Services, Healthcare, and philanthropy. My previous employer does not give references, but will confirm details with any HR person. All of these references had actually worked with me in jobs or volunteer positions in the community. They had all known me for two years or more.

They called me about 2-3 jobs for which I was qualified for, but each time I spoke with someone, they asked me for references, telling me my references were "no good." I kept asking them why, and would they please contact my references as they were expecting to be contacted. They again insisted that they must speak to my supervisor or previous supervisors. Once again, I politely advised them that those people would not respond, and would merely refer them to HR. Unfortunately, this is a policy at that employer, not something just for me, but for everyone. Still, they persisted. Again, I asked them to contact my references.

Long story short, they never called them, and I stopped calling them. I've never had a lead from any agency, and I have responded for about 75 or so ads from different ones. I also concur that they are useless or so confounded by their own red tape that they are ineffective.

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Bluetea in Texas

41 months ago

Heather in Aurora, Ontario said:
Long story short, they never called them, and I stopped calling them. I've never had a lead from any agency, and I have responded for about 75 or so ads from different ones. I also concur that they are useless or so confounded by their own red tape that they are ineffective.

Bypass them whenever you can. Recruiters want your references but not for the reasons that you think. They want them as leads.

This, in addition to running fake ads is one way to get them.

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Hotdiggity in Ajax, Ontario

41 months ago

I learned the hard way when a recruiter wanted my references before I had an interview with their client.
They called my old boss within an hour of me giving the reference and tried to shake her down for leads.

Now, I won't provide references and site my reason as "I'll provide you my references after you get me a Face-to-Face meeting with your client"
Two recruiters have since said, "that's not how this works" and "well, it's your career"

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Heather in Aurora, Ontario

41 months ago

Thanks for the replies. This makes sense, yet at the same time, why wouldn't Officeteam try to "shake down" my actual references for leads?

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Bluetea in Texas

41 months ago

Heather in Aurora, Ontario said: Thanks for the replies. This makes sense, yet at the same time, why wouldn't Officeteam try to "shake down" my actual references for leads?

Officeteam is a subsidiary of Robert Half and they are the worse.

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Bluetea in Texas

41 months ago

Heather in Aurora, Ontario said: Thanks for the replies. This makes sense, yet at the same time, why wouldn't Officeteam try to "shake down" my actual references for leads?

Sometimes a company will outsource a single job to half a dozen different recruiters. This is another reason to avoid them. The competiiton is too intense.

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Heather in Aurora, Ontario

41 months ago

Bluetea in Texas said: Sometimes a company will outsource a single job to half a dozen different recruiters. This is another reason to avoid them. The competiiton is too intense.

I've definitely seen that, exact same wording for a job posting with more than one recruiter, and also placed by the company itself. But my references were actually BETTER than those I could have had at my last position. So still, colour me confused as to why they didn't try to harvest leads from those people.

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Bluetea in Texas

41 months ago

Heather in Aurora, Ontario said: I've definitely seen that, exact same wording for a job posting with more than one recruiter, and also placed by the company itself. But my references were actually BETTER than those I could have had at my last position. So still, colour me confused as to why they didn't try to harvest leads from those people.

I haven't a clue.

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Jeff in Aurora, Colorado

41 months ago

Most companies that use agencies to find employees use several agencies. It's not surprising to see several identical ads.

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Bluetea in Texas

41 months ago

Jeff in Aurora, Colorado said: Most companies that use agencies to find employees use several agencies. It's not surprising to see several identical ads.

The last company that I worked for would give a job posting to at least 3 different agencies. Price shopping.

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Hotdiggity in Ajax, Ontario

41 months ago

Most mid-to-large size companies will use a Vendor Management System to handle their contractors and external hires.
Generally, corporate procurement or purchasing will review and approve a set number of external recruitment firms based on industry and value-add services.
Once they're on the approved list, they get access to the VMS and can start submitting candidates to the company.
Usually, the approved list is 5-10 vendors and they often change.

As a job seeker, I try to find out who's on that list because they'll often have a direct line to the hiring manager and can sell your organizational fit even if you're not 100% qualified.

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csaltzman45 in Tulsa, Oklahoma

38 months ago

What was the job description that you declined?

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Yvonne in Grand Rapids, Michigan

38 months ago

The agencies that I have went to were terrible. They are just looking for leads. It is tough getting new business in a bad economy. Most of them don't last long because they cannot bring in business to earn a paycheck.

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wredline in United States minor outlying islands

37 months ago

I used Indigo Recruiting Group Inc as a candidate. Great services, fast response and they set me up with 5 interviews in 1 week. I like the way the relationship was managed. I will definitely recommend to a friend.

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aostler in Glendale, California

35 months ago

According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, the number of people unemployed went down slightly in August, and currently is at about 12.5 million people. This makes it hard for recruiters and employment agencies to be able to help everyone out, as they are only looking for specific candidates that the companies they work with are looking for. If you're not having any luck with recruiters, you can try using <a href="www.granted.com">Granted</a> to help you out in your job search, as it's free and has quite a few listings.

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aostler in Glendale, California

35 months ago

According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, the number of people unemployed went down slightly in August, and currently is at about 12.5 million people. This makes it hard for recruiters and employment agencies to be able to help everyone out, as they are only looking for specific candidates that the companies they work with are looking for. If you're not having any luck with recruiters, you can try using www.granted.com to help you out in your job search, as it's free and has quite a few listings.

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g1rl in Honolulu, Hawaii

34 months ago

I've signed up on a few staffing agencies because I fell for their bogus ads. I didn't know they were fake postings, so I kept applying. Interview with them makes me hopeful that they'd find a job for me soon. But all they asked me to do is to take a skill tests. I have already taken a bunch of skill tests, sometimes they'd call me and ask me to take more of their stupid tests.

My recruiter keeps telling me she gave my resume to this company or that company. When I follow up about my application, she'd say "I just submitted your resume to a new company." The "new" company is what she already offered me weeks ago. The job they only offered me are 1 day jobs, like, if an employee is absent for a day or two and needs a replacement. Sometimes, I wanted to ask why can't they find a job for me in one of the dozen of job openings they post.

A good way to get back at these deceiving staffing agencies if write a review about them on Yelp. Some agencies cares too much about their Yelp reputation, some would even go as far as writing a 5-star review for themselves, so a bad review really puts them off. From reading the other reviews on Yelp, looks like I'm not the only one with a bad experience with those agencies.

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Papa Jon

34 months ago

Nanlisa in Upper Darby, Pennsylvania said: Jon: They're the ones that are acting unprofessional. Since you told them that you weren't interested, they should have simply left you alone. All they're doing is just simply harassing you. And they have the nerve to tell you that you'll have difficulty finding another job! Who are they to judge? I believe that it's against the law for any employment to badmouth you.

You had every right to refuse the assignment. Suppose you went there and the job didn't work out? What if you didn't like the company? Or even the boss? What if you couldn't handle the work there?

As much as I complain about these agencies, they have to check your references and your background before they send you on a job. Most agencies' clients want a second interview before they make a decision.

This agency was very unprofessional to you. You may have refused an assignment, but they have no right to blackmail you. If they contact you again, tell them that they have no right to harass you and that you're taking your business elsewhere.

If I were you, I would go directly to the companies instead. Oh by the way, which agency was this?

I think the name of the staffing agency started with an "H" like Harman or Harbor or something like that. I don't remember offhand. Also I had just learned that my father was diagnosed with terminal cancer. I had to put my professional and personal life on hold to care for him in a home hospice setting. He passed in early September. I explained this in an email to the recruiter but he refused to accept this as sufficient reason to not interview for the opportunity he had. He thought it was "odd" that this had "suddenly happened" at that point in time. I didn't think it was necessary to divulge such personal details in this type of a situation. In the end I did what I thought was best for all concerned by tending to my dad's needs in his final days and postponing any employment searches.

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sleeds1 in Lenexa, Kansas

33 months ago

I seem to have a problem keeping a job with temp agencies lately. I show up to work early or on time. I do my best,but, it's not working out.I have worked for staffmark and encore and they were both positive experiences. My first job I kept for six months until I found a better paying job. I worked for encore for a couple of months until I had to stop working because I was pregnant. Recently, I have gone through two companies in less than four months. First it was AMG Services.They are definitely hiding something. They are very sketchy and laid me off after five weeks. Just last weeks I got laid off again by K Force. The job was actually for US Bank. They laid me off after four weeks. I was busting my butt to try to follow all the rules. I'm very frustrated with the job situation. Before August of this year I stayed home with my son for three years and the job market has definitely changed. I have worked full-time since I was sixteen. I admit I have had a lot of jobs, but, I had to keep working and paying the bills. The job market has really changed. I am about to graduate with my Associates degree and so far I'm not sure my education has helped me.

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Parafreegal in Chicago, Illinois

33 months ago

They're all full of untruths. If they get you work, then fine. But they don't care about you. They only want a butt in a chair.

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Kansasgirl55 in Topeka, Kansas

31 months ago

I have no use for any staffing agencies! They are lousy in my State, and never respond back to you. I will no longer go and sit thru typing tests, etc so they can keep me on file. I don't think half of the employers have any idea these staffing agencies they hire are not really looking at the individual, but the $$ signs of what they can hire them at so they can make a profit from the company. Ugh! Half of the ads in the paper are for jobs with staffing agencies.

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Cheshire in Mississauga, Ontario

31 months ago

Won't use a staffing company again. I met with someone from a divison of Office Team (one of their niche divisons) and she basically gave me a show and a big talk about a position available and how I'd be a great candidate etc. Then she took my references, called them up and gave them sales pitches and tried to get them to give her the name of a decision maker. Then I got an email saying the position was full.

Its sales and its a game for these people, they want to keep up their quotas. Thats it.

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Cheshire in Mississauga, Ontario

31 months ago

*Sorry that should read a division of Robert Half

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StuckContingent in Davenport, Iowa

26 months ago

I've pretty much only worked for staffing companies for about as long as I can remember. My very first job ever after the US Army was found through a staffing company. It was actually somewhat of a twist, I had applied to a local company directly, then the staffing company placed me there, so once I started work there I talked them into directly hiring me, and since I had applied there before being staffed there I got hired on directly, that job lasted 3 years. Then I moved to chicago where I got placed with a temporary company that the company permanently hired me after 6 months. That job lasted 3 years before moving the whole job to Canada. So then I've been working as a contingent for yet another big company through a staffing company, except every third year I have to work part time or quit the job for 6 months. I don't need medical so much as I get that free, the main draw back is no retirement benefits, and the longer I work as contingent the less attractive I am to getting a direct hire job with this company. The best way to use temp companies is to register with like over 8 of them. Don't register with one and then call and call and call. Maybe once a week you could try calling them, but don't let down your job search either. Drive around and get the names of the various companies in the area and check in with unemployment office to see what they might have available. Find those companies websites and be trying to contact them directly for a job. Anyways, I'm not really a success story, the good jobs dried up and not I've been stuck as a contingent for over 10 years, what can I say. I've got a couple side businesses like buying properties and fixing them up. I guess I'm looking to become self sufficient or die before retirement. Hope this helps.

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StuckContingent in Davenport, Iowa

26 months ago

I wanted to say that staffing companies work for these companies. It is important for them to keep a good fresh registry of available candidates in case a job opportunity opens up. They really make their money by find people work and then sucking a portion of each paycheck, like mine makes $5 an hour off my hourly wage. Hope this helps.

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Elizabeth in North Chicago, Illinois

26 months ago

Staffing/employment agencies SHOULD be illegal.

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cecilia21_ca in Houston, Texas

25 months ago

I've been on both sides of the fence. I've gotten jobs through agencies and later transitioned into recruiting myself.

What I learned the hard way is that they are indeed not equal. Case in point:

Some agencies make their money off of the candidate themselves, ex: (The job really pays $17 an hour but Steve the Worker only gets $12.50 while he's temping and hoping that it turns into perm.) This mostly benefits the agency as this is how this type make their fee.

Others charge the company itself a flat rate. In which case whatever they offer you is what you will make. (These benefit the candidate but it is hard to know which agency does this)

Leading People On: Bad agencies will give false hope. "I'm looking" "We'll be in touch" etc. In truth if you know you can't help someone you tell them.

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cecilia21_ca in Houston, Texas

25 months ago

Continued:

What job hunters should know:
Keeping expectations reasonable. We see people that come in (primarily new grads) that have no experience yet expect to waltz into a $50k job. In cases like that, there may be jobs available, but the employer is not willing to pay a higher salary on what they see as an inexperienced candidate.

Updating your resume with new skills learned, software, etc. Ex. Those with SAP experience often stand out for certain positions yet if it's not on your resume the employer doesn't know that you have those skills.

All in all I will say that bad agencies have def created a stigma around using them.

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Truthbehindthemasks in Davenport, Florida

20 months ago

expertstaffer in Des Moines, Iowa said: The whole purpose of employment agencies isn't to help people find jobs...it's to make profit. If you actually go to a lot of these websites, they're actually more tailored to the companies hiring (clients) than to the people looking for jobs. It's only a part of their entire operation to help people find jobs.

I would say that they're not completely useless. I got my job going through the same process that all of my applicants go through. Finding a job takes work. So my point this entire time is that you shouldn't ever rely solely on an employment agency to find a job for you (which a majority of applicants do). It would be an entirely different story if you were paying them money, but you're not. You're going in there willing to spend 2 hours of your time on the chance that they'll find you a job. If you're a good applicant with stable work history, they'll try very hard to find something for you, after all, they make money off of you.

In regards to a stable work history and pay close attention to the poster's words in their comments, folks what this person means is regardless of why you were "LAID OFF" for several months or so and could not find any steady work you might as well keep looking because you are a "DO NOT USE" person regardless of your good attendance, extensive work experience and excellent productivity. Correct me if I am wrong, just speaking from genuine personal experience.

Although I do agree with the perspective of not solely using temp agencies as a means of looking for permanent work, I do disagree with the ethics of some of these staffing companies standards. Social morals don't seem to financially work out the bottom line to well in the realm of business huhh. God help us from ourselves.

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Bluetea in Texas

20 months ago

Truthbehindthemasks in Davenport, Florida said: Yip, I sort of been through that same situation with this one staffing agency out west. I applied for a job they posted on the net. and after they had me fill out all the paper work and skills assessments they ended up telling me the job I was originally applying for no longer existed and offered me something completely out of my field that was short term. When I told them I wasn't interested and all, they said that it would hurt my chances of future job placements. Kind of unethical right?!

The job you originally applied for never existed in the first place. This is an old recruiter trick; its a fake job designed to lure in the fish.

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Mblanco1979 in Pensacola, Florida

19 months ago

Kim in Chicago, Illinois said: Let me tell you about the biggest joke in the staffing industry. Robert Half also goes by the name OfficeTeam, and Accountemps. They are always looking for candidates on the job boards. I have been contacted several times by them, and each time it is a different person, as they don't last long on the job. They have told me that they have several jobs, but will not discuss these jobs till a time is set up to meet them. You go to the office and there are at least 5 other people in the waiting area to see a recuiter and take the online tests. I had an appoinment for 1pm and did not get out of the office till almost 5pm, all that time and they did not discuss a single job that they had to send me on. Then try calling them back, and you can never reach the person that you met with, always get bounced to other people, then after 6 months, they tell you that your tax forms "expire" and you have to come in again to do them again, as they shred them. I went into the office in Feb and Sept is the same year, how can they expire? I-9 forms are suppose to be good for 3 years is what someone else told me. I highly doubt that they shread anything, they just want to know what companies you temped at to get more leads. How can a company like that place people when they have an overflowing waiting area? Leads do not always result in clients, its a hard selling business and now wonder they are always getting different people each time they call me.

Dealing with that same agency (Office Team) I've found 1 of the recruiters to be very rude. She speaks to me like I am beneath her. I had asked a simple question about how much longer my assignment will be and I was told that she could not be pestering her clients. I was so upset when I received her email, but decided to leave at that because it would only hurt me down the road. We've lost that touch of dealing with people today and very impersonal. No one really cares!

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de290779 in Ashfield, United Kingdom

19 months ago

Some employment agencies are very wrong in the way they go about there businesses. I am speaking from experience here, I was stuck on an afters shift for around 3 months having been told the shifts were rotating. I was less than happy but what can you do?? I have been lied to about the rate of pay I was to recieve also. Advertising for jobs they don't have is very unexceptable and should be stopped as it is a complete waste of people seeking works time and money as you are expected to go and register despite no jobs available to you. I am now in a situation where by I have had an induction for a company but I am still waiting for a start date 2-3 weeks later. How does this help more or the economy, no wonder so many people are in debt. The last time I had to use agencies around 12-13 years ago you could get work at the drop of a hat. I now consider alot of them to ne parasites. Change needs to happen and fast.

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