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NO 100% Commission, It's been a roughr road I've been extremely stressed out, and trying to figure out alternatives, but above all never give up, if all else fails theres trucking companies out there looking for new drivers.[/QUOTE] Most people don't understand anything about the military and it hasn't meant much in the job market. Focus on your education with a BS minimum. An Associate degree isn't even on a pay scale for getting a decent job. You also have to adapt to working around non-military folks. It took a while for me to learn how to talk in an office environment where my language was appropriate. The civilian world still has it's own crab bucket and filter that you have to get past. http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p2#c2125487 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p2#c2125487 2013-02-17 04:35:48.0 I definitely hear ya brother, I got out of the army recently after 8 years of service, I had 2 MOS's, Military Police and Unit Supply Specialist, and I recently moved to texas, been searching high and low for a job however my standards are 1. NO minimum wage, and 2. NO 100% Commission, It's been a roughr road I've been extremely stressed out, and trying to figure out alternatives, but above all never give up, if all else fails theres trucking companies out there looking for new drivers. http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p2#c1904030 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p2#c1904030 2012-05-19 15:08:38.0 I would ask Ellen from tv im sure if she sees this she'd get you the money I know I would but I don't have money either and my husband is getting out of the army next week. It's hard too because we have 3 kids and no car and we are almost 30 years old and have to move in with our parents it's embarrassing but at least the kids are safe. I think if you also try doing a bunch of sweepstakes and instant win games it's better to take your chances then not to have those chances at all ya know? I hope something good comes your way. God bless! http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p2#c1876500 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p2#c1876500 2012-04-11 14:50:54.0 [QUOTE who="foxsha75 in Stockbridge, Georgia"]I am applying for government jobs as well. Its very frustrating because everyone is trying to get the same jobs as I am. So the competition is very stiff. I lost my appeal because they said that I got separation pay when I was honorably discharged from the army. The military took that away when I didnt finish my reenlistment obligations, but it still showed on my DD214 as recieving compensation. I gave the Department of labor the paperwork showing that the Army took it from me, but they still denied it. I am going back to the Department of Labor and file another appeal. Hopefully, they accept it this time and I can recieve benefits. I have been living off of savings, but it has ran out, and I am in danger of losing my car. All I can do is pray that they give me benefits. There are people who are abusing the system and not really looking for work. I have been in the military for almost 9 years, and I deserve UI benefits. Its very sad...[/QUOTE] I don't know why they are denying you UI benefits. When i got out i received unemployment and i also had separation pay from the Army, that shouldn't matter. I am truly sorry that you are going through this. One suggestion for you to do is to apply for student loans and get enough of a loan for school but also enough to help out with living expenses and bills. My wife is doing that now. Of course we have to pay it back in the long run but at least it will help us out now. have you gone to the VA yet their is also benefits through them? keep your head up and thank you for your service we should treat our men and women better than this. http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p2#c1867106 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p2#c1867106 2012-03-31 06:39:49.0 [QUOTE who="foxsha75 in Stockbridge, Georgia"]Hello everyone, I am a 28 year old Army Veteran who was just Honorably Discharged from the military after 8 years. I worked in the Human Resources field, and have extensive knowledge in Administrative and HR. I currently go to school part time to finish my Bachelors in Human resources, but I feel like that is not enough for employers. I have been out of the Army since October, and have been trying to find work ever since. I went to the unemployment office and was denied benefits twice. I am going to file another appeal after the Martin Luther King Holiday. I love to work, and I had no problem serving my country, but I feel like no one is taking me seriously, and it hurts so much. With bills piling up, and my car in danger of reposession, I feel like I want to give up. I have been to numerous interviews, and sent my resumes to every staffing agency, and job site, but its not getting anywhere. I feel like my country has not only let hard working americans down, but myself as well. Anyone has any advice or inspiration. I really need some right now. Thank you so much for reading what I have to say.[/QUOTE] It all depends on what you’re looking for. Without the degree it’s hard to say that anyone would pick you up. Even though your skills might be excellent, without your degree you might have to settle for a GS 4-5 position if you’re willing to do that you might be able to get a chance, but after that you can advance quickly if the skills are there as you say. I am a navy vet and having similar issues and i have my MBA, but I was able to get unemployment. Hang in there it will all work out! http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p2#c1770475 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p2#c1770475 2011-12-12 19:02:30.0 [QUOTE who="TRUTH"]WHY STAY IN THE SERVICE, THIS IS WHY THE VA AND MANY GOVENMENRAGENCIES ARE THE WAY THEY ARE, TEY HIRE AOT OF CIVILIANS WHO NEVER SERVED, LOOK AT THE VA FACT 30 PERVENT VETERANS WORK INSIDE THE va BUT THE BOSSES, MANY NEVER NEVER SERVED AND THERE BEAN COUNTERS-, lOOK AT ARE OWN COUNTRY OUR COUNTRY HAS VOTTED IN DRAFT DOGGERS-AND GUESS WHAT THEY ALREADY TOLD YOU WHAT THEY THINK OF THERE COUNTRY THEY SAID 889 YOU. tHE RICH RAN, BUT THEY SURE CAN START WARS FAST WHERE WERE THEY, BUSH HIS DADDY HIM HE NEVER SERVED, CHANEY, DRAF DOGGER AND THERE THE BIGGEST WAR MONGERS, CLINTON AND HE WAS EVEN ON A ROTC SCHORLARSHIP SEE THESE RICH EPOPLE GET ALL THE PERKS AND GOOD COLLEGES BUT WHEN THEY HAVE TO DEFENT THERE COUNTRY THEY COME UP WITH MEDICL DESQUALIFYING HEMMROIDS. BUT THEY SERVE OUR COUNTRY AND GIVE AMERICA ALLA HEMMROID, CLINTON BUSH AND MANY OTHER RUIN THIS NATION WE AS A COUNTRY NEED TO STOP ELECTING DRAFT DOGGERS, BCAUSE YOUR PEEING ON THE ONES WHO SERVED. nOW oBAMA SAYS HES GOING TO HELP SERVICE MEMEBERS WITH JOB, HOW THE ONLY WAY IS TO THROUGH OUT THE OLD LAWS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TOO MANY LOOP HOLES. AND WE ARE NOT A PRIRIORTY. lok at our ecnom this economy was sank on purpose, this was no accident there is no accidents, one they needed people in the military it so bad they went after illegals, now they have lines they know a draft would of sparked demonstrations for a war that is a lie. Veterans like our benefits ae a joke we hae to fight for even the benefits that are there look at compensation rates, there loosing records even at the records area, then its your fault they lost your records they deny your compensation claim.[/QUOTE] Learn how to spell and turn off caps lock haha http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p2#c1522322 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p2#c1522322 2011-03-08 12:18:23.0 [QUOTE who="tim tom, BA, MS in Göteborg, Sweden"]I wish all of you best of luck in finding jobs, as long as you truly deserve the job because of experience and education. Yep, things are very tough in the US. You can thank G.W. BUSH, and the war on Iraq for a large part of the economic hole the US is in right now. Since 2001, the war on Iraq has cost nearly $900 BILLION! That is how much the healthcare reform bill costs! I love it how the republican reps feel we can afford to spend billions and billions of US taxpayer money, but we cannot afford the same money in healthcare for ALL Americans! Threaten to Eliminiate TRICARE, or cushy govmt. healthplans and see how some would like that! I also laugh how they say the US is becoming socialistic like Sweden, etc., when Sweden is NOT a socialist country. Some of its policies are more socialistic than some US policies, but many are the opposite. I love it, for example, how in Sweden, I worked only 1 year full time, but became injured (lower back problems-bulging disc), and now I get 80% of my former full time pay, with 100% free healthcare (as everyone does in Sweden/EU and the rest of the modern, intelligent world). I make nearly $2,000 sitting at home, LOL! Sweden is the best! I get FREE medications each month that used to cost me $1,200 per month! God Bless Sweden and the EU!! Best thing I ever did-leave the US![/QUOTE] If you are Swedish and not an American maybe you should shut your mouth and be happy with your fellow Swedes who are being taxed to death to pay for your lazy, unproductive lifestyle. It WAS the best thing you EVER did was to leave the United States you disgusting litle coward. Oh and by the way, has the birth rate of Islamists surpassed the in-bred rate of Swedes yet? All you really are is another welfare case living off someone else. Poor Boy! http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p2#c1433356 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p2#c1433356 2010-12-21 09:53:22.0 You are truley a piece of work. So....this means that you never followed the rules or regulations intrusted to you. We as veterans earned those points. No one ask you to give it to a veteran for the sake that he or she is a veteran. When you hire veterans you get practical experience regardless whether he or she has a degree. Most vets that I know earned their degree while in the service, with exception to maybe younger ones who only stayed one tour. But thank God they have the option. Predident Obama made sure of that. People like you will not be able to take that benefit away. Remember this. You will certainly reap what you sow. Sow a bad seed, it WILL come back to you. http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p2#c1433313 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p2#c1433313 2010-12-21 08:54:39.0 See below. This is why Veterans are not hired. We have people in HR that make up their own rules, not following the written rules that were put in place for veterans. We never fully get the credit WE deserve!!!! Sue Collins, You, ma'am, need anti-psychotic medications! So, you feel it is perfectly fine for "vets to look out for vets", but it is NOT ok for non-vets to look out for non-vets? That, ma'am, is called DISCRIMINATION! Thank goodness the democrats are finallly in charge, and the nobel prize winning Obama, the hero of America! And also, the other who is applying for HR jobs but you do not yet have a bachelors degree, that is how it works. When someone who already has HR experience, civilian or govmt, etc, AND they have a bachelors degree in HR, but you do NOT, then THEY are more qualified than you, and deserve the job. That is how it works. I used to have a federal job, and was a HR director. I have NO military experience, but I have HR experience (loads of it), and a BA degree as well as a masters degree. I always found ways to hire the MOST qualified and educated person. If the most qualified & educated was a vet, then I would hire them. If the most qualified and educated was a civilian, then I would "see to it" that they got the job, one way or another! This giving points for disabilities (especially depression/anxiety...LOL, is a complete joke. So is giving DISCRIMINATORY extra points for "veterans". Point of fact--EVERY full-time working American CONTRIBUTES to America, NOT just vets! I am glad that I and "others" can, did, and does find ways to make sure that hiring for federal jobs is done fairly, and without unfair discrimination. Giving preference to people just because they were vets is the same as giving preference to someone because they are African-Americans, Mexican-Americans, etc. http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p2#c1428969 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p2#c1428969 2010-12-17 12:55:10.0 [QUOTE who="cmm in Williamstown, New Jersey"]I don't normally comment on these types of issues, however, I too am a military veteran (24 years of service) in the HR field. I have found that my military experience does not translate well in the civilian sector. Keep trying but in the meantime, I recommend you spell check all your work. I found several errors in your messages above.[/QUOTE] Make sure that if you tell people they should spell check, that you do the same! lol http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p2#c1295680 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p2#c1295680 2010-08-26 18:32:34.0 Wow lots of Ignorance here. Vets get 5 points of preference in any government position. If a 10 point vet applies, Only veterans can be accepted for that position. With the economy as it is, veterans are getting the vats majority of entry level positions, because as soon as a 10 point vet applies all civilians are blocked no matter how awesome they are. Government anti-military? please... they get a huge advantage when applying for government positions. You may be having a hard time because entry level or even mid level positions are getting 100-300 applicants. http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1125215 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1125215 2010-03-30 19:14:01.0 Tim: I am glad that you found your perfect place. Some of us are not that lucky post military, sir. I feel you are missing the major point here. Whether we spend four or fourty years in the military, we have lost out on many things. One of the biggest besides family things is the fact that we lost out on starting a career equally. You speak sir about everyone being judged fairly but in reality for many of us it did not and does not happen. For many of us, disabled or not in many cases we are ignored, overlooked and our skills are not even given a chance to be used. While you may have tried to give the best person qualified the jobs, many employeers are not. I as does yourself, have a BA, MA and PHD. I am also disabled and many people with jobs don't even give us a second look. The teaching profession that I sub in every day hires people just out of school and many times it is a budget thing. We cost too much so we get passed over or never interviewed or have the district even look at our application, much more been given the once over to even see if we have skills a school can use. They do not even respond to our applications even with the laws in place in most states that mandate that they do this. The laws are the way they are to mandate that we get considered and given preference for hiring. It doesn't work many times sir and that is not the fairness that you say you have. When this does not happen, how are we supposed to level the field so all of us get the chance to work. You may be fair but many again are not due to politics, the good old boy mentality or just plain apathy on the hiring persons part. We fight this battle every day for fairness and most times it never or seldom happens. This is why it is the way it is. http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1124538 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1124538 2010-03-30 11:29:09.0 6 months ago I wrote an opinion to the vet who was having problems finding work in the Human Resources field and I followed on with a further comment 2 months ago. Sad to say but a couple of weeks ago, I saw an article stating that vet unemployment is now at 21.1% - more than twice the national average. This is a stunning statistic and a stunning failure on the part of our government. Currently, many war-weary vets are transitioning from the front line to the unemployment line and then to the park bench. In an economy that is suppose to be so inclusive of all segments of American society, it is vets who are increasingly finding themselves more and more excluded from the economic and labor of this great country of ours. This quite possibly be the greatest unknown crisis facing our society. We're not talking disabled vets, vets suffering from PTSD, etc. - we're talking about over 20% of a segment of our society who lay down their lives to protect this great nation and are rewarded with chronic long-term unemployment and homelessness. The percentile of unemployed vets is at it's highest rate since the end of WW2 and is even higher than it was for vets returning from the unpopular war in Vietnam. I have called the unemployment rate of vets a "Katrina-like" disaster and that's exactly what it is. Unless our government devotes serious resources to alleviating the absurdly high rate of Iraq and Afghan war vets, then no willing American will want to join the armed services (knowing that it will be more difficult for them to succeed in the labor market than it is for the non-vet) thus forcing our government to resort to conscription and draft to fill our armed services needs. http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1124537 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1124537 2010-03-30 11:29:09.0 6 months ago I wrote an opinion to the vet who was having problems finding work in the Human Resources field and I followed on with a further comment 2 months ago. Sad to say but a couple of weeks ago, I saw an article stating that vet unemployment is now at 21.1% - more than twice the national average. This is a stunning statistic and a stunning failure on the part of our government. Currently, many war-weary vets are transitioning from the front line to the unemployment line and then to the park bench. In an economy that is suppose to be so inclusive of all segments of American society, it is vets who are increasingly finding themselves more and more excluded from the economic and labor of this great country of ours. This quite possibly be the greatest unknown crisis facing our society. We're not talking disabled vets, vets suffering from PTSD, etc. - we're talking about over 20% of a segment of our society who lay down their lives to protect this great nation and are rewarded with chronic long-term unemployment and homelessness. The percentile of unemployed vets is at it's highest rate since the end of WW2 and is even higher than it was for vets returning from the unpopular war in Vietnam. I have called the unemployment rate of vets a "Katrina-like" disaster and that's exactly what it is. Unless our government devotes serious resources to alleviating the absurdly high rate of Iraq and Afghan war vets, then no willing American will want to join the armed services (knowing that it will be more difficult for them to succeed in the labor market than it is for the non-vet) thus forcing our government to resort to conscription and draft to fill our armed services needs. http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1119972 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1119972 2010-03-26 09:56:55.0 My husband just retired from the military on 3/1/10, and he is having the same problem. He's gotten alot of interviews, but no one will hire him. It seems like people will hire meth addicted losers before hiring him. I do have one theory, however. I have noticed that alot of military men,(I haven't noticed this with women) are sexist pigs, with macho attitudes who think that they can boss everyone around and be abusive to the people who are subordinate to them just like in the military. In the civilian sector, you just can't treat people like that. You can't act like you do in the military. I know that at almost every job that I've held, if a supervisor was prior military, he was distinctly unpleasant to work with. I don't think all former military men are like this, but the ones who are give the nice ones a bad name. My husband was put down in the military because he wasn't sexist and abusive toward me and had respect for women. I know that eventually people will figure out that he is not an ex-military "jerk" and that he will be a good employee who works well with others. Also, we in the civilian world don't like the "superior" attitude of most ex-military people. You need to learn that your experience in the military means NOTHING in the civilian sector. It does not translate at all.Because the civlilian sector is nothing like the military.In the civlian sector, you get in big trouble if you verbally abuse a subordinate, or show disrespect to women. If you lose that "superior" attitude you might find it easier to get jobs. http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1082356 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1082356 2010-02-22 17:57:17.0 [QUOTE who="FEDUPVET in Pikeville, Kentucky"]America treats its VETS like dogs, I can't even get a job shovling coal in Kentucky, its all daddys boys and favors, I say draft some of these peoples kids tht are doing the hiring. Then it will be a different story.[/QUOTE] That is soooo true. That's just like George Bush not having any family members serving. See what I learned the problem is is that those who never served feel that veterans like us have a since of entitlement and feel that it was our choice to join them military. So yes, maybe if their kids were drafted or if they had immediate family members in the military that had been through that lifestyle and left home to fight in wars that a majority of us did not intentionally join for, then they will inderstand why veterans and strong veteran supporters feel that veterans are "entitled" to good or descent jobs! Knowing what I know now, I'll be damned if I let any child in my family or that I know join the military after high school. I mean why join and serve when statistics and facts show that those who never served end up better off then those who have in most cases? http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1082338 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1082338 2010-02-22 17:40:35.0 America treats its VETS like dogs, I can't even get a job shovling coal in Kentucky, its all daddys boys and favors, I say draft some of these peoples kids tht are doing the hiring. Then it will be a different story. http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1046826 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1046826 2010-01-30 13:54:34.0 I think Obama is on the right track now. If the opposition (Republicans, Big business, corporations) will support his ideas and quit trying to block his agenda which is affecting plenty of American people, things will drastically improve. What has to happen is that these parties need to put their differences aside and the republicans need to put some of their philosophies aside and just vote with democrats to help the people. The republicans complaining about the debt and spending is not going to solve anything. Unfortunately we are in difficult times where the government has to spend to help get the nation on its feet again. The reason why republicans oppose the spending is because their constituents or the wealthy is worried that their taxes will go up to cover pay for the deficit. Like Obama said he did not raise taxes on anybody as of yet with the exception of the tobacco tax which ticked me off. So if Repubs would get their head out of their butts and stop trying to secretly vote NO on everything to satisfy the wealthy then ordinary Americans and veterans like us will be able to see swift results. And if anyone disagrees with what I say then you need to wake up and do your research. http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1046628 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1046628 2010-01-30 10:05:04.0 read alot on your site, seems like a good one. only one problem, i dont have a job either and have no money coming in. watched obamas address the other night, was kinda inspiring, except the point that umemployment is only 10%, not here it isnt. maybe he should be more specific. o and all the new jobs that have been created and more americans are working now because of it. yaeh, what about the ones that lost thier jobs and arent working. what about the businesses that have closed or gone bankrupt. not talking about big, bailout companies, well except GM (greed). im talking smaller companies. some chain some local, throughout the US. ive applied for just about everything, i cant even find a welding job and i did that for over 20yrs. i have two masters, one in exercise science and the other in exercise physiology. cant even find a job sweeping gym floors. now here i am, no money coming in. about to lose everything. most of my furniture has already been sold. hmmm wondering if you make any money off your blog? http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1046386 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1046386 2010-01-30 00:19:08.0 I have been looking for a job for over a year. It's pointless out there right now. You won't find anything. I've learned to live cheaper and have written about it in my blog. Find ways to cut costs. http://www.livefrugallyordiebroke.com http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1042534 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1042534 2010-01-27 09:13:50.0 [QUOTE who="playball in Whitewright, Texas"]yep, im in texas also. va put me through university but only what they wanted me to get degree in and not what i thought i would be better fit for. so i got the degree went on to get my masters on my own dime and more classes after that. 12 yrs of service with some pretty amazing life experiences on top of this. now here i am, out of work. cant find a job unless i move closer to big city which will have to do. even then the jobs dont pay very well. the ironic thing is what i wanted to do, nursing, which va said would be too stressful, have jobs available everywhere. now i can go back to school for a two year degree and get a nursing job just about anywhere which is what im going to try to do. as it stands for now i just get "thats a very impressive resume but your not what we are looking for". so what im getting out of the replies are, i have a higher standard and moral obligation from the training that ive received from the military and that would clash in our beliefs and standards of not giving a crap.[/QUOTE] I have compassion for u, this is really unfair, but don't give up, keep trying. Most important, if u believe in God, pray to him to give u strength and help, he will surely hear u, just be patient. God will not leave u nor forsake u, believe me I have experienced this. Don't lose hope, keep the faith. May Jehovah, God keep u in his care and keeping. I have been unemployed for 2 years, I'm going back to school to take up Graphic Design. I gotta do something, so I figured if I go back to school and change my whole career it will help me find a job. Take care. I will pray for u. http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1042140 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1042140 2010-01-26 22:34:59.0 yep, im in texas also. va put me through university but only what they wanted me to get degree in and not what i thought i would be better fit for. so i got the degree went on to get my masters on my own dime and more classes after that. 12 yrs of service with some pretty amazing life experiences on top of this. now here i am, out of work. cant find a job unless i move closer to big city which will have to do. even then the jobs dont pay very well. the ironic thing is what i wanted to do, nursing, which va said would be too stressful, have jobs available everywhere. now i can go back to school for a two year degree and get a nursing job just about anywhere which is what im going to try to do. as it stands for now i just get "thats a very impressive resume but your not what we are looking for". so what im getting out of the replies are, i have a higher standard and moral obligation from the training that ive received from the military and that would clash in our beliefs and standards of not giving a crap. http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1042056 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1042056 2010-01-26 21:19:47.0 To add to that note, another effective measure would me to sign a law into effect stating that a business must have a certain percentage of their workforces to be veterans but I highly doubt that will go down and plus I can hear conservatives once again turning into cry babies about how the government is sticking their nose in the private sector where it does not belong. Unfortunately the government and society is still under the philosophical myth that the GI bill is the best thing they can do for a vet and is suppose to be a tool that successfully can get them in the civilian workforce smoothly. Well I will tell you right now that bussiness no longer honor college, technical school, or any kind of vocational training as real world experience. So once the vet does get a college trade he/she will be know different then a young 20-23 year old graduate looking to begin a real world career. http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1042041 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1042041 2010-01-26 21:10:34.0 What you said sounds real nice and hopeful but you have to think how many private industry businesses and corporations have embraced Obama's policies, ideas, and initiatives enough to ramp up hiring for veterans let alone hiring at all.The answer is NONE!! Hell, there is even a tax credit available to businesses who hire veterans. A few weeks ago I asked on a yahoo answers forum why businesses wont take advantage of that tax credit and everyone responded back with the same type of answer stating that as business managers they are least concerned with tax credits and are more worried about hiring the perfect fit person for the job. A few said that if qualifications were "perfectly" equal in their eyes between a vet or a non vet then they will choost the vet. So that right there states how much businesses really embrace government policies and initiatives. The only way the the tax credit for hiring a vet will actually be effective is if they raise the credit from $2400 per yr to like $10000 per yr because that 2400 tax credit is not meaningful enough to hire veterans. Trust me I know I had been on many interviews and applied to hundreds of job ads that I have qualifications for over the last 6 months out here in the good ol state of Texas which people claim is the most veteran friendly state. YEAH WHATEVER!!!! http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1033224 http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/Administrative-Assistant/Why-is-it-hard-military-veterans-find-job/t116079/p1#c1033224 2010-01-20 02:12:17.0 What I said a few months ago about the disrespect for the vet in the job market still reigns true right now. However, I believe there may be hope on the horizon. A couple of months ago, President Obama signed an executive order called the Veteran Employment Initiative and forming the Council for Veteran Employment. I think this is better than the billions of dollars that were poured into programs (which were really catch-phrases) like Hire Vets First, Fulfilling the Commitment, Wounded Warrior, SMOCTA, VEOA, VRA, USERRA, etc. The only thing these programs resulted in was increasing number of unemployed vets in the labor market. It appears that President Obama wants to make the federal government the premier employer of vets so that would encourage private industry to hire vets. The sad fact is that there are many federal, state, and local government agencies who still look on vets and those with college degrees with disdain. There's nothing better that exemplifies the struggles the vet faces in the job market when our own government admits that the veteran unemployment rate is 10 to 20% higher than it is for the general public. I still maintain that the vet preference is a sham. However, hope is on the horizon. I recently attended a mandatory training course offered by my employer. I stumbled into a class of new hires - and about 80 to 90% of these new hires were vets. A few years ago, my employer was hiring out of the Phillipines to satisfy their personnel shortages. I will hold out my judgement on President Obama's executive order until I know what the results come from this Veteran Employment Initiative and Council on Veteran Employment.