Contract attorney; salary? is it worthwhile? |
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Hendl in Monterey Park, California 64 months ago |
Anyone here experienced with positions as a contract attorney, meaning the attorney gets paid by the hour, no benefits, etc.?
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esquiregirl in San Diego, California 60 months ago |
I know this post was a while ago -- did you ever get an answer? Did you already take the bar? What area of law is it? I was a contract attorney for the first couple of years out of law school and it definitely has its pros and cons. Just make sure if they're paying you as an IC that you truly are an IC, otherwise you're selling yourself short. For instance if they are setting your hours, requiring you to work in their office, etc., then you ARE an employee and they just don't want to pay you benefits. One of the benefits of being an IC is the flexibility. I think $30/hour is way too low for someone with your experience. |
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Hendl in Los Angeles, California 60 months ago |
THanks so much! I thought $30/hour was too low, as well. |
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Anon in Washington, District of Columbia 56 months ago |
I don't know the going rate in CA, and I'm sure you've long since started your job. Contract work is very dangerous. If you do it for even as much as 6 months, you can ruin career prospects, as it isn't viewed by attorneys very well. If you do it for a short period, it probably won't harm you much, but if you did it for a year, you can kiss a legal career goodbye if you limited or no experience elsewhere, unless you work for a tiny firm or start up your own shop. In DC, you can get between 30-40 an hour, plus overtime, sometimes the hours can be insane, like 80 hours a week. No benefits, it's mindless, here all you do is document review, and depending on the firm, you can be treated very poorly. I was on an assignment once where you basically weren't allowed to leave your seat unless you went to the bathroom. You ate when they told you you could eat. I've been on some that they treated you with dignity and even gave you an office, but either way, you only do mindless work that harms career prospects. |
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esquiregirl in San Diego, California 55 months ago |
I had a much more positive experience as an IC and my friends have as well. I'm with a firm know and make good money, however a friend of mine works 5 hours a day as a contract attorney and makes as much as I make in my 10+ hour day. True she doesn't get benefits, but she also doesn't have law firm b.s.! There's a website that isn't launched yet, but it's going to be a great resource for ICs. www.lawwages.com |
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Lucky Stoller in Colorado Springs, Colorado 55 months ago |
I am coming out of retirement and don't know where to begin. Does anyone know of a legal recruiter in Colorado Springs? I'm licensed to practice in California so I can work in Bankruptcy Court here or administrative courts such as Social Security. My experience has been in litigation and mediation. |
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Aaron Leviine in Arlington Heights, Illinois 51 months ago |
I have had several contract assignments and they are good income providers as well as opportunities to learn additional industries and obtain a better understanding of how corp. law departments work. Anyone with 5 years experience or more should not take less than $40 an hour unless it is pure document review. |
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Miss B in Baton Rouge, Louisiana 50 months ago |
How does malpractice insurance work with a contract position. Do you carry your own or do you not sign off on anything? I have strongly considered doing contract work for the simple reason of having flexibility. I have two young children and it seems that so many firms or government employers aren't open to reduced hours (i.e. 30 hours per week) so I thought maybe a contract position would be the way to go. |
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hendl@sbcglobal.net in Los Angeles, California 50 months ago |
Miss B in Baton Rouge, Louisiana said: How does malpractice insurance work with a contract position. Do you carry your own or do you not sign off on anything? The contract work I have done so far has been technically as an 'employee', so that the employer was the one who had malpractice insurance, etc.
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a contract attorney in Long Beach, California 40 months ago |
Actually, I've contracted for awhile, and usually, if I was having any client contact with the firm or solo's clients, or if i was signing the pleadings i wrote, i woudl make sure somehwere there was insurance coverage...in all cases, the law firm would carry the coverage and their insurance woudl apply to me as well, even as an IC attorney. I had an unusual situation with a fellow who didn't carry his own insurance, and wanted me to contract with him, but didn't have any insurance to cover me either. I figured, here he is wanting me to deal with his clients, sign the pleadings, appear in court, all under my name, which is fine, but then why pay me a measly $50 an hour when you expect me to carry my own insurance coverage. It didn't make sense to me. Bottom line he was comfortable practicing without insurance and i'm not sure how i feel about it...so I told him I'm not sure, and we left it at that. |
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lawyerhood in Frisco, Texas 34 months ago |
Notice the dates of the prior replies - most over a year ago. The market has since depressed the hourly rates - what paid $30-$40 a year ago in Dallas or Houston is now $20-$25 an hour. I have seen postings on the East Coast for under $20 an hour. Many of the lawyers taking these jobs are, like me, recently unemployed with more than two decades' experience. I can't comment yet on whether there is still a stigma. I would think that an employer would rather see periods of legal temp jobs (doc review, etc.) than uninterrupted unemployment. I am hoping to "spin" the strengths of these jobs (e.g., strong work ethic, endurance, focus on task, etc.) but we'll see if that works. I have seen only one job posting in the last 6 months that blatantly said that document review experience was disdained. |
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jack111 in Falls Church, Virginia 30 months ago |
I've worked as a contract attorney for some corporations in the DC area. My rates were $80, $110, $110, and $94 (I have 25 years' experience in tech transactions and generalist skills). It was very good work and my gigs lasted from 2 months to 14 months each. The folks were generally nice, but at one company, they did make the "temps" feel like second class citizens. In another case, I was treated extremely well. One problem is that if a legal department is instructed to cut costs, you can be let go on short notice. That happened once. Overall, I like it. I get to work in the corporate environment, at good rates (if working 40 hours) and without the politics. Need to remember to file your quarterly tax payments. |
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GlorifiedTemp in Chicago, Illinois 30 months ago |
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lawgrl99 in Long Beach, California 29 months ago |
GlorifiedTemp in Chicago, Illinois said: $30 / hr for an unlicensed attorney is a dream. Try in the teens. I'm a licensed attorney making $17 / hr pre-tax with no health insurance at a contract position. And it's not just doc review, it's substantive work. $17/hr and you are licensed??? Why would you sell yourself so short? |
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vicarylaw in Miami, Florida 24 months ago |
Are there any solos out there who have also done contract work on the side? When times are slow I imagine that it would be a great supplement to the bottom line. |
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Anon in Boulder, Colorado 23 months ago |
I'm also licensed and am getting $15/hr, no benefits, part time, no bonuses. It is not that Glorified Temp is selling him or herself short, its that there is nothing else out there. After over 150 resumes and applications, I couldn't even get hired in retail or as a waitress. |
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Anon in Billings, Montana 22 months ago |
I'm shocked at the replies so far. I practiced for only 3.5 years in private litigation defense firm, but left and have been doing IC work in Billings for about four months now. I am being paid $65/hour primarily for research and a bit of brief writing. No court appearances or any other activities of a normal atty. No one has batted an eyelash about it, which is surprising since the highest wages in private firms for full time employees in MT with the same experience as me are a mere $60K, with the average in the low 40's. Interesting. Definitely shouldn't sell yourself short at anything less than $50! I also have no insurance, but am looking into it just to be safe. It couldn't hurt. |
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NewlyGrad in Tucson, Arizona 14 months ago |
I'm about to graduate in Tucson, Arizona. I am also going to be a first time mom. My husband and I may be leaving town within a year, so I would like to look for contract work or a more flexible close-to-full-time job. Husband has a job here with medical benefits so we really can't leave Tucson. Any suggestions? What is the market looking like? I will be taking the bar in July. Also, how does one go about looking for contract work straight out of law school? I have been working with a small firm for over a year as a law clerk, but may have to be let go due to budget cut. I appreciate any help! Thanks!! |
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actually in san diego, ca in Fontana, California 4 months ago |
Anon in Boulder, Colorado said: I'm also licensed and am getting $15/hr, no benefits, part time, no bonuses. It is not that Glorified Temp is selling him or herself short, its that there is nothing else out there. After over 150 resumes and applications, I couldn't even get hired in retail or as a waitress. I am in California with 10 years of practice and I do contract work for $25.00 to $50.00 per hour. It is ridiculous that licensed attorneys who have $150,000.00 or more in student loan debt have to work so cheap.
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actually in san diego, ca in Fontana, California 4 months ago |
Anon in Boulder, Colorado said: I'm also licensed and am getting $15/hr, no benefits, part time, no bonuses. It is not that Glorified Temp is selling him or herself short, its that there is nothing else out there. After over 150 resumes and applications, I couldn't even get hired in retail or as a waitress. I am in California with 10 years of practice and I do contract work for $25.00 to $50.00 per hour. It is ridiculous that licensed attorneys who have $150,000.00 or more in student loan debt have to work so cheap.
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