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yhuang in Fairport, New York

68 months ago

Laura in Buffalo, New York said: Is anyone near buffalo, NY looking for a CRA job? I know of a good friend looking to fill a position.

I live in Rochester NY. I have CRA/CRC training certificate and did CRA Intern with kRC. I have 8 year R&D working experience and a M.S degree in Clinical Chemistry. If you can help me to get to know your freind, it will great. Thanks.

Joyce

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akshat in Mountain View, California

68 months ago

Hi! I a a Ph.D in Biochemistry with two years of post-doc research experience and a couple of publications in peer-reviewed journals. I have a 4 year break now. I would like to take up a job in an industry. I figured out that joining a phrama company as a CRA is far more easier than as a Scientist or a post-doc especially after such a long break. Can anyone please help me on this. Like where i can start....
Thanks!!!

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LDGlathar in East Rochester, New York

67 months ago

yhuang in Fairport, New York said: I live in Rochester NY. I have CRA/CRC training certificate and did CRA Intern with kRC. I have 8 year R&D working experience and a M.S degree in Clinical Chemistry. If you can help me to get to know your freind, it will great. Thanks.

Joyce

Joyce, I too live in Fairport NY, and am attending RIT to obtain my Clinical Research certificate. That certificate will go toward my MS degree from there. I am looking how to get hands on experience so that I can apply for a job in this area. I have been a NICU nurse for 32 years. It seems like you need experience as a CRC before you can become a CRA. AM I wrong? How do you even obtain experience that every job description I have seen wants? Thank you for any help and information you can share. Linda

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USN in Toronto, Ontario

67 months ago

I thought India was the best place for CRAs

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LDGlathar in Penfield, New York

67 months ago

Clin.Res in Ottawa, Ontario said: Hello Everyone,

I am graduating with a MSc. degree in Biochemistry with alot of basic research experience. But in the last year, I have been reading lots of books about clinical research and networking with CRAs in the hospital where our lab is. However, I have noticed that most people are looking to hire nurses(RN) as CRA and not people with MSc. Has anyone else noticed that.

I am not against nursing or anything, but dont nurses have enough on their hands looking after patients that now they have to do the bureaucratic and regulatory work too.

I am also wondering if anyone with MSc. or BSc. had an issue with loosing a job competition/pay raise/or a promotion in clinical research whether in pharma or hospital to a RN just because they had the degree. Please share your stories.

Thanks

Just so you know, nurses are present in many other careers and utilizing their knowledge and expertise in other ways than direct patient care in hospitals. We do have other experiences and education such as BS and MS and PhD degrees.

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David Stark in Mill Valley, California

67 months ago

I have been in this field for over 15 + years, tough Clinical research at two major universities. I have worked with major biotechnology and device companies.

There is a simple equation that I use for the academics that true to mind F*#&$ everything:

its simple: experience+luck=Job

Expedience= everyone is looking for something different- no median, I am president of a company,large staff and doing over 23 trial around the world... For fun I send in my resume to senior project manager positions, to see what they are looking for, I laugh when they say I am not qualified. In fact one that turned me down did exactly that, after they stated I was not qualified for the post, the same guy was suppose to replace, was student in my clinical research course that following week. We laughed....

Luck- you have a friend at a good place that willing to help, you win, your at the right place at the right time you win..its all luck...

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M in Flemington, New Jersey

67 months ago

Hi Friends,

I have 4 yrs of Clinical Research Experience, but due to lack of field monitoring experience, I am having difficult time to land a job as a Clinical Research Associate. Everyone is asking me to join CRO, but it's not easy to get in without the monitoring background. Can someone please suggest something?

Thanks,

M

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vaibhav jamma in Dublin, Ireland

65 months ago

hi i have done my masters in pharmacology and i worked as an analytical chemist for an year and now would like to start my careeer in clinical research..if someone could help me...contact me at drvaibhav26@yahoo.com

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karonfreemancra in Stuart, Florida

65 months ago

kelly in Toronto, Ontario said: You'll have to start off as a data coordinator/manager or perhaps a study coordinator. These roles allow you to learn the clinical trial tasks / regulations etc. And you also meet CRAs who will monitor your work who will be good for future referrals.

I just completed the course too. I keep gettin told that I have the qualifications and experience and my info has been forwarded to the Project Managers but never hear another word. How do you get employed? I also completed the internship.

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Brittany Mickolichek in Hutchinson, Minnesota

63 months ago

I am looking for a coordinator position in Minnesota. I have three years experience and would also like to consider a CRA position. If anyone knows of anything, please let me know.

Thanks

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wadler in Ypsilanti, Michigan

63 months ago

[QdonUOTE who="breddi"]Hey Kelly,

Thanks for your replies. Are you in the field already? I would like to know some interview questions. could you answer some of these questions?

1). if a dose has to be given a patient in 2 min. If the patient refuses to take the dose how do you deal the situation?

2). If a patient yells at you in the clinic and talks bad about the clinic and yelling at you in the clinic infornt of you what do you do?

If anybody attend any interviews before please share your expereinces and possible, appropriate answers as well.

Thanks in advance,
Reddi
Toronto

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Kendra M in Greeley, Colorado

62 months ago

Hmm I'm in Denver, not Greeley.

Hello everyone. As many people have stated in this thread, I too am looking to advance my career into clinical research. While completing my BS in Biology, many people suggest that I look into CRA as a possible career choice. With my AS in Emergency Health Services, I've worked as a certified paramedic for several years. Before going back to college fulltime I was fortunate to work for a medical technology company which involved extensive travel, training and product development.

Other than working with my current network of people, and the possibility of investing in online training (which I am hesitant about), is there any other direction one may suggest? I am starting to believe it may largely be based off of who you know, not what you know.

-KM

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Excellence in Montreal, Quebec

61 months ago

picky in Carlsbad, California said: Hi,

Here is my comment,

I read a couple of the postings and noted that a few of you have some serious grammar issues. I do not know if this is a familiar way to speak, but it does really says a lot about you. If your resumes include this type of writing, I do not wonder you are not getting any calls, nobody will want to even talk to someone who does not have writing skills. I'll just give an example:

I'm facing the same situation here in sydney.
Just applying n applying but no response frm anyone.
Donnow wat happend to my CVs tht i send thm.

This text should say Sydney (instead of sydney), from (instead of frm), Do not know (instead of Donnow), what (instead of wat), that (instead of tht), I (insted of i), them (instead of thm).

This small text already tells me a lot about this person.

Just to keep an eye in these things.

I wish more people like you were around. Seriously, I'm an undergraduate student, and I'm also seriously wondering if these people are considering applying to these positions with their butchering of the English language.

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Kerry V in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

60 months ago

I have been reading all of your comments and there are some things that you need to understand about Clinical Research. The standard of most organizations that employ CRAs is to require two years monitoring experience and a Bachelor of Science. Of course there are exceptions but the majority of the big Pharmas will not bend on these requirements. There are very few Pharmaceutical Companies or Clinical Research Organizations that will even accept your CV without the two years monitoring experience. Also, I have been in the field for 10 yrs and sadly I do not know any other CRAs who were hired based on their completion of a course, Im sure the phenomena exists but I do not have personal knowledge of this. Having said that there are some pathways to obtaining a position as a Clinical Research Associate:
1. There are positions knows as Study Coordinators at clinical trial sites. These people are responsible for the day to day conduct of a trial, including patient interaction and data collection. These people are usually RNs or other Medical Sciences professionals.After a person has approximately 3-4 yrs experience as a Study Coordinator, they have a much stronger foundation in applying for a CRA position.

2. There are companies called Clinical Research Organizations- these are organizations that provide the clinical oversight of trials for Pharmaceutical Companies. These companies have positions called either Clinical Trial Assistants or Clinical Research Specialists. These people are responsible for the the administrative function of the trials. The CTA who is interested in advancing to CRA can take training in the interim that will better prepare them for the position of CRA. Clinical Research Organizations can be found in major cities and hotbeds of research such as San Francisco, RTP and New Jersey. IF your interested in this pathway, google CROs and see if any of them are in your area and pursue a position.

I hope this is helpful information.

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Sheetal Aggarwal in Quincy, Massachusetts

60 months ago

Hi

I am looking for job of CRA /CRC in MA. Have you got any information about any opportunity in this state. Maybe some of you work nowand can help me. I have a bechelors degree in zoology hons,I have 2 years of experience as CRC.I will be very grateful for any inforamtion or help.

Sheetal

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Shraddha Srivastava in New Delhi, India

59 months ago

Hello Everybody!!!

After reviewing your conversations, I realized that this is the best platform to share our views. I am also like you all - searching for opportunity in Clinical Research field. I have done B.Pharma and Diploma in Regulatory Affairs along with P.G.Diploma in Clinical Research & Data Management(Distance Learning. I have 3-4 yrs experience in Diagnostics industry in QC and Production.Now I am planning to pursue my MSc in Clinical Research & Regulatory Affairs (Distance Learning)but m not sure whether this will be of any benefit as I am not getting any calls for initial interview also.
I heard that India is hub of Clinical trials but doesn't seems so.

Can anybody guide me.

Thanx in advance and look forward to hear soon with some solution for my problem.

Regards
Shraddha

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Tushar_007 in Pune, India

59 months ago

Shraddha Srivastava in New Delhi, India said: Hello Everybody!!!

After reviewing your conversations, I realized that this is the best platform to share our views. I am also like you all - searching for opportunity in Clinical Research field. I have done B.Pharma and Diploma in Regulatory Affairs along with P.G.Diploma in Clinical Research & Data Management(Distance Learning. I have 3-4 yrs experience in Diagnostics industry in QC and Production.Now I am planning to pursue my MSc in Clinical Research & Regulatory Affairs (Distance Learning)but m not sure whether this will be of any benefit as I am not getting any calls for initial interview also.
I heard that India is hub of Clinical trials but doesn't seems so.

Can anybody guide me.

Thanx in advance and look forward to hear soon with some solution for my problem.

Regards
Shraddha

Hi shraddhha, as you said it is the fact but not up to that level because I have seen some vacancies where they required only freshers.
First i never believed on luck but it is something. So as per my iopinion freshers just need to look for opportunity.alsways surf the site of all the indian CROs, pharma sometime u will definitelly get some great job.
I have also done B.pharm and PGDCR from pune..but luck by chance i got selected before completion of the cource in the worlds largest CRO.
Just try to get something where you can earn experience(In CR) and confidence.
And wat i came to know by getting in industry that there was no need to spend such huge money to get the degrees of CR. So i would like to advice you plz dont spend huge money on Msc in CR.. But you can pursue if it does not have that much significant fees.
Ok bye,,never ever give up...just try...
I rarely use to come on forum so if you need any clarification on same plz contact me on fegadets@gmail.com

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nadeemabsar@rediffmail.com in New Delhi, India

59 months ago

Hi this Nadeem, I am Pharmacy graduate moreover i have PG Diploma in Clinical Research. Please advise how to get enter in Clinical Research industry as CRA/CRC in India or US.

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cranewbienetwork in Detroit, Michigan

59 months ago

If anyone is interested in information on training and other resources for those with little or no research experience and looking to become a CRA, please check out and join the new site CRA Newbie Network at www.cranetwork.ning.com.

There are not many resources for the non-experienced CRA on the web and this site aims to help:) Thanks and good luck.

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MP in Raleigh, North Carolina

57 months ago

I'm an IT manager/project manager with extensive experience in managing IT support teams in the Pharmaceutical industry. I'm interested in pursuing opportunities with CROs. However, I do not have clinical research experience. Any advice on what type of CRO jobs I could pursue?

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Joyce in Fairport, New York

57 months ago

You can search for an assistant data manager job because you have IT background.

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Thomas Nock in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

57 months ago

I am a pharmacist that is interested in becoming a CRA, is possible to get an entry level position and move up to a CRA?

I live in the Phila area, where could I find some training classes?

Thanks for your reply.

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Robert in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

57 months ago

i wouldn't waste you money on a training course- many are unrecognized in the industry and others are just scams. I would only trust courses from ACRP, SoCRA or Barnett International.

The problem about being a pharmacist is that you are used to a high salary and the CRA position is not entry level. Your best bet would be to get a job as a CRC (coordinator), clinical trial assistant or in data management and live on 30-40k for several years before even having a chance to move up to a CRA. Initial CRA salaries run about 45-55k for at least 2 years. Are you willing to make that drastic of a salary change for such an extended period of time?

You also have to consider the personal sacrifices of being a CRA.... Do you/Are you planning on having a family? CRA's usually spend 4 days a week out of the state or country and work long hours in planes and lonely hotel rooms.

Getting into the industry is hard, especially because your PharmD makes you overqualified. Phili is a booming area and MedFocus has an office out that way and they have many entry level opening, even in today's bad economy.... but you have to be willing to take that huge paycut and start at the bottom.

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Emma in Bucharest, Romania

56 months ago

Hi,

Can somebody help me with an advice? I work in Romania as CRA and Project Manager ( 2 Years experience). I have a degree in Physics and i started the procedures for emigrating in Quebec. What can i do to get a job in clinical research?

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neelima in Bangalore, India

56 months ago

iam intrested in doing clinical research jobs i completed my msc biotecnology but i dont have any experience.how can i get a job.

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Blake in Amsterdam, Netherlands

55 months ago

Mary in Rotterdam, Netherlands said: Hi there! I was hoping somebody could help me out with the following issue..I am currently working as a CRA in the Netherlands, which is really great, but next year (2009)I would really like to start working in New York. This means that I need to find a company who is willing to sponsor me for a H-1 visa. Does anybody know such companies? And how long the whole process of obtaining such a visa will take? Will it be too difficult? Please advice!

Hi Mary, I am from NY and looking for a CRA job in the Netherlands. Currently I live in Amsterdam, is there a way we could discuss industry opportunitird within each of our countries?

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Rency Itty in Mumbai, India

55 months ago

I have completed my post-graduation in Biotechnology and have done a course in Clinical Research. I had worked for 5 months in Chennai as a Clinical Research Co-ordinator and am now settled in Mumbai. I have been trying to get a job in Clinical Research from so long. Everybody needs only experienced candidates. How will i get more experience if nobody hires me.PLZZZ help me

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hmta in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

54 months ago

Thomas Nock in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: I am a pharmacist that is interested in becoming a CRA, is possible to get an entry level position and move up to a CRA?

I live in the Phila area, where could I find some training classes?

Thanks for your reply.

Hi. I'm new to Philadelphia and am very interested in becoming a CRA. Did you ever find that entry level position? If so, where did you look and do you have any advice for me?

Thanks.

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response in Fort Lee, New Jersey

54 months ago

There are different levels of nurses including inpatient, clinic, and office nurses. RNs who work in clinical research receives a much higher salary since they are more specialized.

Clin.Res in Ottawa, Ontario said: Hello Everyone,

I am graduating with a MSc. degree in Biochemistry with alot of basic research experience. But in the last year, I have been reading lots of books about clinical research and networking with CRAs in the hospital where our lab is. However, I have noticed that most people are looking to hire nurses(RN) as CRA and not people with MSc. Has anyone else noticed that.

I am not against nursing or anything, but dont nurses have enough on their hands looking after patients that now they have to do the bureaucratic and regulatory work too.

I am also wondering if anyone with MSc. or BSc. had an issue with loosing a job competition/pay raise/or a promotion in clinical research whether in pharma or hospital to a RN just because they had the degree. Please share your stories.

Thanks

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Ryan in San Jose, California

54 months ago

Hi I just graduated with a B.A. in psychology and now in a clinical trials certificate program the question I have is it ok that i dont have a B.S. degree? The other question is how competitive is the job market in terms of getting an entry level position in clinical trials such as a coordinator or research associate?

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CRACONNECTION in Ypsilanti, Michigan

54 months ago

USN in Toronto, Ontario said: I thought India was the best place for CRAs

India was what? for CRAs? The USA is the best place for anything! forget India!

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CRACONNECTION in Ypsilanti, Michigan

54 months ago

Ryan in San Jose, California said: Hi I just graduated with a B.A. in psychology and now in a clinical trials certificate program the question I have is it ok that i dont have a B.S. degree? The other question is how competitive is the job market in terms of getting an entry level position in clinical trials such as a coordinator or research associate?

very competitive! Simply good luck to you my dear friend

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Dear CRACONNECTION in Michigan in Toronto, Ontario

54 months ago

Pls read the persons comment before u give ur connection. Which company in USA gives jobs to Indian CRA's? USA will give jobs to people of USA not foreigners-so as I said before -read all the relevant comments before giving your views.
And by the way-I may not reside in India but I hear and read -the stats still puts India quite high on this field.

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annmarieadams in Wilmington, North Carolina

53 months ago

Hi,

I am a graduate from UNC-wilmington with a B.S. in Clinical Research. I did an internship with a CRO company here in Wilmington where they flew me to California and Asheville NC to observe and learn the duties of being a CRA. After almost a year of graduating, I have yet to get my foot in the door as an entry level CRA because I have no real experience in the field.

I am not apposed to a support position in hopes of learning and acquiring more skills for a career in clinical research. My question to all of you is how can I get the experience needed to start my career in the clinical research field?

I have applied to many different areas and have had no luck and need a fresh perspective on my career endeavors! Thank you for your input in advance!!

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rene in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan

50 months ago

will you hire me, i have one year experience as a clinical research coordinator

irene

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Haneef in London, United Kingdom

50 months ago

Hello,

It's been 2 months since I came to London and have been looking for a break in Clinical Research, Data Management, Coding, Regulatory Affairs or Pharmacovigilance. I have a Visa that permits me to work full-time here.

But as everyone agrees, Companies want only experienced guys. My Course gave me 3 months of experience which I know is too little.

I desperately need a break in this field. I am ready to join as a Trainee or Intern.

Can someone please advise.

Thanks

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Haneef in London, United Kingdom

50 months ago

Do you run any course or Internships in London?

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KC Temple in Towson, Maryland

50 months ago

Haneef:
I took the online course at Michigan state university and it was great. It is totally online, so you can take it anywhere in the world. Here's the link: nursing.msu.edu/cracrc.aspx check it out and see if it is something that interests you.

Internships in clinical research are rare because of trial privacy issues. Have you checked out if any CROs are hiring? They aren't usually so stringent about experience, especially if you really know what you're doing. Good luck!

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otentic1 in Duluth, Georgia

49 months ago

I have a degree in management and want to go into cra.
How do i go about it.

Thank you all.

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Ilsi in Ottawa, Ontario

41 months ago

Jahan K in Ottawa, Ontario said: Hey Reddi

This is Jahan K in Ottawa. Great questions about ethics in doing clin research. I guess the best way to answer them would be your own way of problem solving. They are basically testing you if you can handle a problem when confronting with a patient. I asked this with an investigator in Ottawa who interviews people for CRC positions and this was his answer.

By the way where are you in Toronto and where is your interview?

Jahan K

Hey Jahan,

I am also in Ottawa and currently looking for clinical research associate positions available! I am struggling with finding ones. Would you have any advice to me? I am new in Canada (have been here only 2 years) and not too familiar with agencies and opportunities in this field.

Thank yo!

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Shaun in Prince Albert, Saskatchewan

41 months ago

Cici in Montreal, Quebec said: sorry, I sent you the wrong e-mail.
send to salamonec@sympatico.ca

Is your friend still looking for CRA's in Montreal?

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Pooja in Richardson, Texas

40 months ago

Hi,

I have done MBA in clinical research from India. I came to USA (dallas) last year and am looking for job as CRA but everywhere they need minimum 2 years experience which I don't have. I have also done a online certificate course from Kriger International Centre. But I feel this course is ot helping me much.
If someone can help me in job assistance.

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Rts257 in Chicago, Illinois

39 months ago

Pooja,

The minimum requirements for a entry level CRA are two years of work experience in clinical research. Even with all the degrees and training in the world, without work experience as a project assistant, CTA, CRC or other job in human subject research you are simply not qualified to be a CRA. My suggestions is to stop hoping for a job you are not qualified for. Start applying for jobs that you are qualified for.

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Akruti Desai in Richardson, Texas

39 months ago

In which post I should apply as I have done MBA in Clinical Research from India and now I am in Dallas?

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Akruti Desai in Richardson, Texas

39 months ago

In which post should I apply as I have done MBA in Clinical Research from India and now I am in dallas?

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Mevana in Lake Station, Indiana

39 months ago

Akruti Desai in Richardson, Texas said: In which post should I apply as I have done MBA in Clinical Research from India and now I am in dallas?

One gets their start in clinical research in the workplace- NOT in the classroom. People who have not worked in clinical research should apply for jobs like project assistant, site start up, IRB coordinator, CRC, data manager, CTA.

CRA will never be a career for people without clinical research experience.

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RIMZAA in Hollywood, Florida

37 months ago

N in Canton, Michigan said: I completed my Masters in Biotechnology from India 2 years back and now i am in USA.i am looking for a job but dont knw where to start as i have a big gap between my studies..for expereince i need to start from somewhere plzz help me...do i need to study first or look for a job....

i am in the same boat as you. did u got any guidance that u would like share.

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P Rohit in Mumbai, India

36 months ago

RAFAEL GOMEZ GAITAN in Littleton, Colorado said: I did a Clinical Research Associate couse on line last March. In the partial tests I got 91%, 96% and 94%. In the final Mastery test I got 94%. I have been trying to get an entry level job since then. Everybody requires one or 2 years experience. How can I get the experience if nobody gives the chance to beginners?

first try to enter the field. for that, you may have to work under a doctor for internship even for free. once you get an experience of about six months, you may try for another job.

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Diane in Las Vegas, Nevada

34 months ago

kelly in Toronto, Ontario said: You'll have to start off as a data coordinator/manager or perhaps a study coordinator. These roles allow you to learn the clinical trial tasks / regulations etc. And you also meet CRAs who will monitor your work who will be good for future referrals.

Kelly - Is taking a certificatio course reccommended? They are certainly expensive, and if not necessary, it would be nice to know.

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R in Algonquin, Illinois

34 months ago

I have a Bachelor's Degree in Instrumentation Engineering from India.I do have a fair knowledge o f Medical systems and Laboratory Operations.My husband is employed in a major Healthcare IT Industry.He always wanted me to get into Healthcare,because of it's increasing growth and the sustainability even in the recession period.After much research,I found the CRA positions to be a good fit,as I'm not interested to choose IT as a career.Now my first step would be to get trained in CRP.These are my questions :

1.Does anyone know about THE VERITAS HEALTHCARE SOLUTIONS? www.theveritashealthcare.com( I found their Ad on Sulekha.com and when browsing their website I understood they offer training courses in CRA and such,though I do not have any references on the company)

2.I also learned about the Kriger training programs from the previous posts...and was wondering which one to opt for.The course cost is almost the same( The Veritas Healthcare and Kriger ).Does anyone have any recommendation?

3.I noticed some posts from Recruiters as well...and I just need to know which of these training programs will add value to my resume in terms of getting that 'first job' ,as recruiters will have a good idea on this one.

Any bit of information will be really appreciated.

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