How many degrees are in 1 percent |
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Cosme Perez in Houston, Texas 22 months ago |
Everyone says to stay within one percent of level. Well the crane I'm operating has a boom indicator in degrees not percent. Is it 360 divided by 100 ? which would be 3.6 degrees |
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Cosme Perez in Houston, Texas 22 months ago |
One more thing if on the low side the boom indicator says 65 degrees and on the high side it says 68 are you 1.5 degrees out of level ? |
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maximus817 in Saint Marys, Georgia 22 months ago |
If you really need to ask these 2 questions you should just go find another trade where you cant kill people. |
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Cosme Perez in Lake Jackson, Texas 22 months ago |
WELL EXCUSE ME. been operating since 84 still no cross bones on the cab. Guess the grace of God. Is the 3 degree chart manitowoc puts out a bunch of bull then? |
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A Crandall 22 months ago |
You have been in the seat since 84 and you don't know how far out you can be on level? I guess that's the difference between setting trusses and making a heavy lift and tearing the boom out. My question to you is.... Does your employer know ? Go ask him and see what reaponse you get from them. Where do you get % from ? It's Degrees on any chart or stat I have ever seen and the fact you don't know how to read chart or know the basics of how the crane works ought to give you a clue you need futher training . If you got any to begin with. You need to kneel down and pray your luck holds with you if you are planing to stay in the seat. The rest of us don't need you killing somebody , It only makes us all look bad. |
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Cosme Perez in Lake Jackson, Texas 22 months ago |
1926.550 (g)(3)(i)(D)
Word for word off the osha site, (one percent of level grade), not one degree of level grade. my best guess is 1/2 inch in a 4 foot level is within one percent of grade, so hold on to your reins I can read load charts pretty good, |
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The General in West Palm Beach, Florida 22 months ago |
Do you have a CCO Cosme ?....I take it your runnin a crane with outriggers? if you are then you must have a bubble level in the cab , right ? If not then put a level on the turntable....EXPLAIN to us what you are working with ...otherwise read the operators manual..... "Well the crane I'm operating has a boom indicator in degrees not percent" <----- well I hope its in degrees!!!!!!!! |
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Cosme Perez in Lake Jackson, Texas 22 months ago |
CCO. since 03. Working near the water, In the past always leveled up as best as possible with levels mats and plywood. Now the job I have is very production based you walk up to the load pick it up and load it on the truck and go to the next one. No levels no mats no plywood. Just wanted to know how far out of level I could work without worrying to much. Hence the question ( how many degress in one percent of grade ) that way I could swing around and check my boom indicator. I looked up degrees and grades last nite and now I think .57 degrees equals 1 percent of grade not sure thou. No outrigger's on my crane. I have a blue book and need to knock the dust off of it. As far as manuals go I have read a ton of them and took a ton of test never have busted one , don't want to bust a crane either. As far as grades go I think 45 degrees equals 100 percent grade. I was looking for some help from fellow operators instesd I find some of them seem to be quite full of themselves Thanks for asking General have a good one |
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The General in West Palm Beach, Florida 22 months ago |
Are you running a crawler? or a cherry picker on rubber? You need too be on level ground with or without cribbing/mats...every pick...more than 1% out of level can put your crane out of the chart depending on your load and boom lenth..more than 1% can cause a slew of problems,..such as side loading..backward stability and increased load radius....Sounds like your doing duty cycle work? have you derated your cap by 20%? ... how deep is the water your working near? You should know these things , your CCO certified......I'm not trying to be a hard ass, There are alot of good operators out there that are not working, who in your situation would make damn sure that rig was witin 1% lavel no mater what it takes...get that Contractor to level it up for you...you do get paid by the hour right? just my 2 cents....... |
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Cosme Perez in Lake Jackson, Texas 22 months ago |
I stand corrected. Tomorrow I start anew. level or no pick thanks. |
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A Crandall 22 months ago |
Ok Cosme, You gave a stat that indicates the lifting of a man basket and you say you're doing prodution work . 2 different applications of a crane. You level the crane when using a man basket period.Not "it will be alright this time"to be out alittle. Prodution work has a manufacture's standard that may be different on each peice or type of crane and they use DEGREES. To determine degree , You use a tape measure and measure from the center of the car body to the outside edge of the track or on rubber the center of the car body to the center of the tire and divide by 90. This gives you one degree. Use the hook or a plumb bob centered on the deck to determine your degree out of level and refer to your manufacturers chart as to structural and load capibilities. If you refer to osha standards over the manufacturer, you will lose. Osha is using broad generalizations and the manufacturer is specific.This is the basics I refered to , given a chart, a tape, a level and the knowledge of how to use them an Operator knows the limits and capibilities of the crane and the proper utilization of the crane when confronted with different tasks. |
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Cosme Perez in Lake Jackson, Texas 22 months ago |
Thank you Mr. Crandall
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Harry in Bernville, Pennsylvania 21 months ago |
Hello Cosme. I too was curious as to how many degrees were in 1 percent since OSHA states that cranes are to be within 1 percent of level as you pointed out above, AND we as operators do not have an instrument to measure percentages, but we do have an angle indicator to measure degrees. And any GOOD operator knows that the level bubble in a crane can be very inaccurate unless he himself set it to be truly level. So other that using an actual level on the upper rotating superstructure as CCO points out to be the best place, some operators in the "REAL" world will use the angle indicator as an indication of the levelness of the crane by swinging around in a full circle and noting the difference of the angle indicator. To answer your questions, 5.71 degrees equals 10%, but 45 degrees equals 100%. Therefore, the ratio of degrees to percentages get slightly lower as you move up the scale. So 1% would be equal to slightly higher than 0.571 degree. Reference this link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_(slope) So as a general rule of thumb, if you leveled your crane to within 0.5 degree (0.6 degree maximum), you would be within OSHA's 1% of level requirement. This is only my educated guess and opinion for liability reasons. As for your other question, if on the low side the boom angle indicator says 65 degrees and on the high side it says 68 degrees, than you are a full 3 degrees out of level, which is equal to about 1.7% out of level. Another way to check level, which I find to be impractical, is that for every 100 feet of boom, 1 percent out of level will have the load line hanging 12 inches off center. 150 feet of boom equals 18 inches, etc. I hope this helps. Have a good day. |
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Cosme in Lake Jackson, Texas 21 months ago |
Thank You Very Much Harry. Really do appreciate it. |
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Radu in Norway 19 months ago |
Hi,i am from romania, and last month i worked on a 50 to grove. All the 3 bubles were showing diferent things...so first i leveled the crane by the eye, after that i started to swing around and to level the crane from the cab, until the degrees from the boom remained constant,after that i tuned the bubles |
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Harry in Bernville, Pennsylvania 19 months ago |
Hello Radu, What you did was a good method. Another trick I would use, is to set the crane up so that the level bubbles read the same at all four quadrants of swing. This may take some outrigger adjusting till you get it right. But once the level bubbles stay the same during a full 360 degree swing, then the crane is level. At this point, you can reset the level bubbles to zero. Just make sure you don't change the boom angle during this process. I find (in my opinion), that the rotex of the upper is fairly balanced between the fully retracted boom and the counterweight at about 55 degrees with the boom fully retracted. I hope this helps. Have a good day. |
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w. clark in Timmins, Ontario 7 months ago |
Cosme Perez in Houston, Texas said: One more thing if on the low side the boom indicator says 65 degrees and on the high side it says 68 are you 1.5 degrees out of level ? yes. you take your change in boom angle on a full rotation and divide by 2. keep in mind flex in the upperworks is always going to cause some slight change as you swing depending on if your balanced heavy to the boom or the counterweight. You want to operate within 1 degree of level, so a change of 2 degrees on your boom angle is about the max acceptable. really to do this levelling perfectly you want your boom angle at exactly the 'balanced' point, which unfortunately isn't in the manuals. i hear grove for example considers their RT upperworks perfectly balanced with the boom at zero degrees. however you almost never see an operator checking the level doing a 360 degree swing with the boom flat out. Myself I just remember to keep it low, usually at around 30 degrees for my check -- you want to be accurate but you also don't want to split hairs. |
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Blud Etampon in Rock Hill, South Carolina 6 months ago |
This is trigonometry. Tangent (Degrees) divided by 100 = percent.
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Matthew in Seattle, Washington 3 months ago |
Im surprised experienced crane operators question this? All these are clearly stated in title 29 cfr 1910, 1926 and ASME B30.5 if you are not familiar with those you shouldn't be running a crane. |
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