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Kathy in Orlando, Florida

87 months ago

Lora, I agree. It's a good idea. I was on dentist's forum yesterday. Some of them think,they would let assistants to do it. However, it's just an idea now. If they accept it, I think, not in all the States.

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Kathy in Orlando, Florida

87 months ago

Thank you, Lora, for this information. I'm very appreciated.

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Sherry Rosen in Canoga Park, California

85 months ago

I am looking for any RDAEF2 persons, even if they are only enrolled in the new program. My email is SherrySFV@yahoo.com. I agree, total compensation is probably in the $30-40 range, depending upon geographical location. The northern bay area of California seems to be paying higher than some areas of southern California.

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ofierabara in Sacramento, California

84 months ago

chente in Ontario, California said: I'm a rdaef, and i feel really great to help people everyday. But when other people like rda's or da going out of there way to do somthing elegal just to please the doctor. In reality there are doing damage to other people's job in a way that's under pay by many dentist. Dr's. know how to get more for less and trust me they will do it to you too.

look and think don't do it.?

I AGREE W/ YOU..DON'T DO!!!STAY OUT OF TROUBLE..

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Argentina Uriarte in Antioch, California

83 months ago

I'M RDA-EF IM LOKING FOR FULL OR PART-TIME POSICION I HAVE OVER TEN YEARS EXPERIECE.

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Argentina Uriarte in Antioch, California

83 months ago

IM LOOKING RDAEF POSICION.

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dela in Fresno, California

81 months ago

Lora in Sunnyvale, California said: Kathy, new duties have been added for RDAEF's since January,1 2010 in CA. Now they can place and finish all sorts of restorations, adjust and cement permanent crowns. Also they can pack retraction cord, take final impressions etc. These are old duties for general denistry. There are some other things for specialties.

There are only 3 or 4 accreditated schools in CA. In order to take classes you need to bring a dentist for some of them and 5 crown prep patients.

The cost is app. 14K for 6-8 months of study.

right, but the new duties will cost too, just to do them. twice as much as the original RDAEF license. dont do what ur not licensed to even if ur an (old)EF. u r not "grandfathered in"

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Jane in Los Angeles, California

78 months ago

Hey, I want to take the RDAEF class but my dentist isn't willing to come with me. Any suggestions on how to find a substitute dentist for the Expanded Duties program?

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Andrea in Riverside, California

77 months ago

Im and RDAEF, Got my license in 1995. Over 18 years of dental assiting experience. Since I became an EF, I have Yet to be paid as an EF. I live in Southern CA in the San Bernardino Mtn. Possibly due to my location. My current pay is $17.00- Hardly any bonus due to bad economy. If I had to do over again, I probably would not of gotten my EF. I would of gone for Front Office! I say that partly because Im almost 40 now, and the career has been hard on my body and fast pace. Front Office still gets paid better than I do and I see one of the girls go back and forth, so she gets the joy of back office from time to time, but has more energy at the end of the day from staying up front. I love denistry, I love what I do. I still believe that if you do what you like the money will come. Im just waiting for that second part, Lord willing it will come one day. PS if you have a awesome dr willing to pay for your EF,-Go For IT! I know there are still some good DR's out there!! God Bless!

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Allie in Los Angeles, California

73 months ago

Sherry Rosen in Canoga Park, California said: I am looking for any RDAEF2 persons, even if they are only enrolled in the new program. My email is SherrySFV@yahoo.com. I agree, total compensation is probably in the $30-40 range, depending upon geographical location. The northern bay area of California seems to be paying higher than some areas of southern California.

Hi my name is Allie and I'm a RDA and going to start the program october 1, 2011 for a RDAEF2, and are you looking for a RDAEF2....?

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integrityprocera@*****.*** in Monterey Park, California

73 months ago

Sherry Rosen in Canoga Park, California said: I am looking for any RDAEF2 persons, even if they are only enrolled in the new program. My email is SherrySFV@yahoo.com. I agree, total compensation is probably in the $30-40 range, depending upon geographical location. The northern bay area of California seems to be paying higher than some areas of southern California.

Dear Sherry, Did you happen to find an RDAEF or two? I am looking for someone also. Would you be able to be of help to me to get in touch with anyone that is an RDAEF? Thank you! Jan

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integrityprocera@*****.*** in Monterey Park, California

73 months ago

chente in Ontario, California said: I'm a rdaef, and i feel really great to help people everyday. But when other people like rda's or da going out of there way to do somthing elegal just to please the doctor. In reality there are doing damage to other people's job in a way that's under pay by many dentist. Dr's. know how to get more for less and trust me they will do it to you too.

look and think don't do it.?

I'm looking for an RDAEF, would you please contact me so we can talk? Thank you, Jan

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alyssa murphy mission veijo in Mission Viejo, California

73 months ago

hi my name is alyssa. im really confused. im a DA awaiting the RDA test in november. i did want to go to concord to do hygeine but it is going to take awhile for me to get in there. sooo my friend katie said we could make up to 40 an hour as a EF? but im really hoping this is the right desicion? i live in orange county so maybe if i was a EF i could be useful in cosmetic dentistry???

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Roger R in Downey, California

73 months ago

I am currently an RDA and i think that it will take some time(3-5yrs) to be accepted by dentist. I also think that due to the economy not to many dentist business are doing too well so as the economy recovers then they are more likely to to pay more for someone's abilities (RDAEF2). another idea of mine is that it is verry well worth the investment,, in the future there will be a stronger demand and maybe it will be more dificult to enter in a EF2 program as the way it is in RDH programs NOW!!! and another thing i am currently attending EF2 program at Fullerton (www.efdaaservices.com) check it out only ten students. more of a private one on one teaching.

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justhorsinrond41@*****.*** in Pleasant Hill, California

72 months ago

Norina del rosario in Los Angeles, California said: I'm an RDA looking to expand my knowledge. I too was wondering if going to the six weeks of schooling and paying almost $3000 to take the practical would be worth it. Anyway i have almost eleven years of experience on all aspect of dentistry...i want to know if there is a demand for it?

I am an RDA in the bay area for almost 20yrs now and I would love to become an ef etc... however for the sum of $11,800 is a little steep at this time and there prob. are not many dentist out there willing to pay you what they should and what your worth. Oh sure they would love to have an expanded duties assistant and let you do all your trained to do but without the pay that goes with it. I have yet to find one that will pay an RDA what they are worth let's face it, assistants do the lion's share of the work in the back office we work hard!!!! We should do what the hyg. did years ago and stand up as a group and demand more money!!!

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Nancy in Los Angeles, California

72 months ago

Sherry Rosen in Canoga Park, California said: I am looking for any RDAEF2 persons, even if they are only enrolled in the new program. My email is SherrySFV@yahoo.com. I agree, total compensation is probably in the $30-40 range, depending upon geographical location. The northern bay area of California seems to be paying higher than some areas of southern California.

Hi. My name is nancy and I am RDAEF2 since September 2010. I am currently employed but not happy with the pay and looking for a place higher pay.

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Roger R. in Downey, California

72 months ago

by the way I am paying for this class myself. And It Is A BIG Sacrafice that I strongly believe in. An education always is; especially if it gets you respect and acknowlegement in the dental community. for those who get paid penuts, strive to learn from doctors and other assistants in the longrun it makes you better and when the time comes you are that much stronger in the dental community Doctors like an assistant the can back up what you say and therfore they will pay more. afterall it is the dentist licence on the line when you work for a dentist. for those who have reached the ceiling. Teach or start a business, But always move UP!!!

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bsummer16 in Chino, California

69 months ago

Lora in Sunnyvale, California said: Kathy, new duties have been added for RDAEF's since January,1 2010 in CA. Now they can place and finish all sorts of restorations, adjust and cement permanent crowns. Also they can pack retraction cord, take final impressions etc. These are old duties for general denistry. There are some other things for specialties.

There are only 3 or 4 accreditated schools in CA. In order to take classes you need to bring a dentist for some of them and 5 crown prep patients.

The cost is app. 14K for 6-8 months of study.

How do I find out which schools are acredited???

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RDAEF in El Paso, Texas

67 months ago

Hello, i am RDA more then 1 years. Now i like to be RDAEF, so i dont know how to start, and what i need for this in TX. Thank you for any help.

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gerard thai in West Hollywood, California

67 months ago

I'm an RDAEF with 23 years in the dental assisting field and I'm finding it VERY difficult to find a dentist willing to pay for the duties I perform. In my current office, I pack cord, take impressions, and make temporaries. I can whip out an almost perfect FMX in less than 10 minutes using only a snap-a-ray and a red bitewing holder. I have to help in the front as well and it took me months to convince the person in front to use the computer to schedule patients. (she was very reluctant to give up her paper schedule). My last employer before this paid me $31.40/hour plus (medical insurance) to do these same duties but I lost that job after being out for too long recouping from neck surgery. I took what I could get and that was a measly $20 per hour with no benefits and I work 44 hours per week. Any help out there?

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queen in El Paso, Texas

67 months ago

gerard thai in West Hollywood, California said: I'm an RDAEF with 23 years in the dental assisting field and I'm finding it VERY difficult to find a dentist willing to pay for the duties I perform. In my current office, I pack cord, take impressions, and make temporaries. I can whip out an almost perfect FMX in less than 10 minutes using only a snap-a-ray and a red bitewing holder. I have to help in the front as well and it took me months to convince the person in front to use the computer to schedule patients. (she was very reluctant to give up her paper schedule). My last employer before this paid me $31.40/hour plus (medical insurance) to do these same duties but I lost that job after being out for too long recouping from neck surgery. I took what I could get and that was a measly $20 per hour with no benefits and I work 44 hours per week. Any help out there?

Ye mam, thank you for you replay, this is help to me!

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RDA, No. Calif.

65 months ago

Jane in Los Angeles, California said: Hey, I want to take the RDAEF class but my dentist isn't willing to come with me. Any suggestions on how to find a substitute dentist for the Expanded Duties program?

I am in that same boat. Been a RDA for almost 30 yrs. Wanted to expand for many years but no dr. would then nor now be willing to meet me, go with me so I am THEN UNABLE TO EXPAND . If i were them... would i AGREE to spend many weekends away from family & have to pay for a hotel room.
Are there No schools that already have dentists there to fill this common gap? All Please respond .s my

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rogr2000 in San Clemente, California

65 months ago

bsummer16 in Chino, California said: How do I find out which schools are acredited???

go to the dental board of california website (DBC.CA.GOV)

www.dbc.ca.gov/applicants/rda/courses_rdaef_approved.shtml

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Espy in San Gabriel, California

65 months ago

Hi everyone.. I am currently an RDA and am looking to attend UCLA for the RDAEF program. I dont know if I should invest so much money and time into a new career and not know what they are paying out there.. Does anyone know what is being paid in or around the Long Beach area? Also can someone give me advice as to what I should ask for. I have only had a few months experience as an RDA and the Dr. I am currently with wants me to further my career as an RDAEF. Any help would be great!
Thank you :)

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Marina in Los Angeles, California

62 months ago

Norina del rosario in Los Angeles, California said: I'm an RDA looking to expand my knowledge. I too was wondering if going to the six weeks of schooling and paying almost $3000 to take the practical would be worth it. Anyway i have almost eleven years of experience on all aspect of dentistry...i want to know if there is a demand for it?

Hi Norina, unfortunately we have not been recognized yet, and alots of dr don even know about us; especially in the low imcome area. I have been an RDAEF for more than ten years and its sad to know that doctors do not recognized the effort we make to leave our family, pay, go to school, and work at the same time.

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RDAEF II in San Bernardino, California

52 months ago

I am a RDAEF II and am currently employed but my skills aren't being utilized. Is there a demand in the SoCal area for someone with my skill set? Also that is willing to pay well for them? Any input would be greatly appreciated!!

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Marina in Garden Grove, California

51 months ago

Sherry Rosen in Canoga Park, California said: I am looking for any RDAEF2 persons, even if they are only enrolled in the new program. My email is SherrySFV@yahoo.com. I agree, total compensation is probably in the $30-40 range, depending upon geographical location. The northern bay area of California seems to be paying higher than some areas of southern California.

My name is Marina Uriostegui and have over 20years of experience. I obtained my EF in year 2000, and my EF2 last year; and ever since I have had no luck with this position and have not find a Dr who can utilized my duties.
My e-mail: sofa30@netzero.net
If you are interested I will be glad to send you my resume and or set up and appoitment for interview.
Thank you Marina Uriotegui RDAEF

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Anonymous in Union City, California

14 months ago

I am a dentist in Northern California's Bay Area. Let me give you some insight from the doctor's perspective.

Some of your posts have complained that your RDA-EF skills have not been been utilized. Have you considered that the skills that justify RDA-EF salaries (placing and adjusting restorations, cementing final restorations)are also very risky for the doctor? For example if your restoration is high and it causes post-op pain or your cemented crown wasn't fully seated and there is now an open margin. Who is the patient going to blame? Who is going to lose money for the extra chair time and lab fee to take care of the problem? Who is going to get and have to respond to the emergency call. Who will lose
patients and have their reputation damaged in the community by angry patients?

No one, including you, likes being blamed for problems they did not create. Problems are never welcome but It is easier to take the blame and pay the price for mistakes made when they are your own.

So when you are asking for $30-40 per hour, understand that while you are asking for this high salary you are also asking your doctor to take on a lot of risk for your work.

Expecting a doctor to pay you an RDA-EF salary and hand their patients over to you to complete procedures based solely on your having acquired a new license is not generally a realistic expectation.

Honestly, you need to prove that you can be trusted to do the work well. Earn your doctors trust and respect as an RDA-EF. This is how: Have your doctor select patients for you to finish restorations on. Take photos and x-rays when you finish. Time yourself, and you must be able to complete your work on your own. Finish six 1,2,3 and 4 surface resins and/or amalgams. Let your doctor check the crowns just before you are ready to cement, again take BWs. Do that and I would pay and appreciate you.

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Roger R. in Downey, California

14 months ago

I totaly agree with you. Although i would like to add that most assistants that taken EF2 program have been arround for years. I personally (22 years). Now years of experience + EF2 + Dr. Profits, does not equal low wages for EF2. I have been insulted at $12\hr and been at $35\hr. I Think that EF2 should be appreciated at $25\hr to start. I think that its not alot to ask for. Some Appreciation to what we bring to the practice.

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Anonymous in Union City, California

14 months ago

I understand. $12/hour is rediculous. No one would disagree with that. I personally respect and appreciate my RDAs. They run my back office and are in every way professional. None of them make less than $23/hr.

The last sentence of your post speaks to the point I was making - what you bring to the practice. One of my RDAs received her RDA-EF license last Tuesday and requested a $12/HR raise on Wednesday. Even though she has been an RDA for years, the only RDA-EF duties she has performed are those she did in her RDA-EF program.

If I could cut a prep, walk away and leave her to place and adjust the rest while I see another patient, schedule all crown deliveries with my RDA-RF while I see other patients or leave her to take impressions for tooth-borne RPDs and crowns while I see other patients with confidence that she could stay on schedule and deliver quality results autonomously I would give her $13 but she can't do that yet.

I agree with you. $25/hr. Is totally reasonable while the RDA-EF gains experience with these procedures they have not done before, outside of an academic setting, and improves upon their skill and speed. $35 for simply presenting me with a newly printed RDA-EF license is not, and that is my point. Even though she has been an RDA for years, she is still a novice with RDA-EF duties.

I am paying my RDA-EF half of the increase she asked for until she builds the portfolio of finished cases I described in my last post and does so skillfully with reasonable speed. By the time her portfolio is complete I should be comfortable leaving her to handle these new responsibilities and allowing myself to be committed elsewhere with other patients while she is working with a patient on her own. At that point the RDA-EF will be bringing a higher level of real and measurable value to the practice and at that point, in my opinion, pay in the mid $30's is warranted.

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Roxanne in Stockton, California

4 months ago

Andrea in Riverside, California said: Im and RDAEF, Got my license in 1995. Over 18 years of dental assiting experience. Since I became an EF, I have Yet to be paid as an EF. I live in Southern CA in the San Bernardino Mtn. Possibly due to my location. My current pay is $17.00- Hardly any bonus due to bad economy. If I had to do over again, I probably would not of gotten my EF. I would of gone for Front Office ! I say that partly because Im almost 40 now, and the career has been hard on my body and fast pace. Front Office still gets paid better than I do and I see one of the girls go back and forth, so she gets the joy of back office from time to time, but has more energy at the end of the day from staying up front. I love denistry, I love what I do. I still believe that if you do what you like the money will come. Im just waiting for that second part, Lord willing it will come one day. PS if you have a awesome dr willing to pay for your EF,-Go For IT! I know there are still some good DR's out there!! God Bless!

Sorry to say, but maybe your at the st I g office. I've had my ef2 for 7 months now and making $32 he. Starting. You gotta sell yourself. Find a new office if you need to. I love my new duties! I have my own column at work and the office considers me a provider, because I'am! As a EF2 I do fillings, crowns deliveries, adjust dentures, impressions for permanent fixtures. I free up the doctors time so they can make more production than without me. Sell yourself! Your worth it!

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Roxanne in Stockton, California

4 months ago

*wrong office

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lisachiu1110 in Rosemead, California

2 months ago

Describe myself as A lost sheep

I am newly RDA and looking into RDAEF program.( Currently Assistant Manager / Treatment coordinator / RDA & OA Assistant and Currently only get pays at $20/hr)

From years of management prospect . all doctor needs a good right hand of left hand. but leaving patient for an RDAEF to work on it is a risk when your RDAEF is not the responsible type and always over write their dentist and dismiss patients with wrong POI . or they may authorize the front office to prescript wrong perio medication which that really risk dentist into malpractice.

I always told my back office, the correct philosophy are: DA Duties ,DA + RDA Duties and DA+RDA+RDAEF Duties. but they seem like not care much cuz either you do more or less gets same pay . There goes DA rely on RDA and RDA believe they do not need to do DA duties and RDAEF do not do DA & RDA's duties. end result = No team work.

There goes the responsible person as an assistant manager jump in and pick up where they all left behind and over load myself then iquit my job.

No matter how much i am passionate about dentistry i just keep on pursue getting my certificated and license whiteout knowing where i am going to land on.

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