iveco engine identification

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i have an iveco daily 2.8 turbo that seems to have had an engine change at some point, parts are ordered from the number plate and i recently bought a cam belt that didn't fit..."that's not the engine that was fitted into your van" said the man.
the engine number says it's an 8140 but how do i find out what series or year it is. i need to order a load of parts as the head gasket blew this weekend.
also it looks like fiat iveco made a 2.5 8140 and ford iveco did a 2.8 8140 or am i just going nuts?

also....are the head bolt "stretch bolts"? as i'll need to replace them if they are.

thank...i hope :)

have you sorted van if not reply and i will help

Hi Jules.

all sorted thanks, i emailed Iveco and asked them.

it's a 2.5 not a 2.8 as sold to me

i have an iveco daily unijet 02 plate it has been running great up to the other day and would not start from cold so had mechanic out to try and solve problem.
he changed the fuel pump and filter but it is still the same. it will go with easystart then runs great all day.
one thing i did try was to take out the 80amp fuse and thermo relay and with easystart it still started and ideas ????

in wallasey on merseyside the guy who changed the pump and filter has booked me into dealer for diagnostic check this sat just trying to see if i can sort it before then to save a bit of cash i already owe him for work done thanks very much for the advice.
how come the van along with its injectors run fine once the van is going???

diesel just pours through them and put to much diesel into the cylinders and as diesel is not that flamable the fuel to air ratio is to great for it to ignite, when it gets a sniff of easy start a highly flamable source it fires it into life and the the injectors are ok, you can get the injectors tested at a diesel center, but not at a dealer as they do not have the equipment due to cost. thais sounds defiently like a injector problem. dealers can do a leak off test which will tell you what injector they think has gone (90% reliable test) but to get 100% correct they would have to be tested, i personaly would just ask the dealer to do a leak off test, we do them all the time as injectors are a problem on dailys.

thanks jules at least i understand a bit more now.
this apointment i have on saturday will be the plug in diagnostic test that reads the computer and should tell them whats the problem? then fix it ?

the computer will oly gear electrical faults your better of getting them to do a leak off test, i work for a dealer and that is what we would do

thanks jules i used my van today since saturday and did need the spray to start it but it stood for 4 hours this morning and it started first time i did about 5 miles then left it before i returned home again 4 hours and started first time but it was a warm day so i feel that the van is running almost up to scratch its just the morning when its left overnight. final arrangments have not been made for the computer all i have been told is that a slot has been reserved for me sat am so when i confirm arrangments i can ask for a leak off test how long does that take. many thanks ian b

leak off test should be about an hour or less, but these symptons are deffiently injectors sound, but other faults might be present

hi have you tried the fuel lift pump on the block and also the priming pump how old is the truck

Hi jules thank you for your reply i have just changed the electric stop solenoid
and that has don the job.

I have an iveco van which kept cutting out, so I took it to a main dealer,they put it on their testing equipment and said that an injector was causing the fault. So after parting with a conciderable amount of money, on the way home the injector light started to come on again. this time not quite so bad but the problem is still there.I phoned the garage and they said it must be the high pressure pump. so was their first diaganostics wrong? What is happening is your driving along quite nicely and you ease up on the excelorator and the injection light comes on,( flashing ) the van seems to lose all power and as the van slows down to about 20mph it suddenly comes back to life as if nothing was wrong.Sometimes it does not happen for quite along time and then you get another bout.help any one with any idea.    

dave in Oxford, United Kingdom said: I have an iveco van which kept cutting out, so I took it to a main dealer,they put it on their testing equipment and said that an injector was causing the fault. So after parting with a conciderable amount of money, on the way home the injector light started to come on again. this time not quite so bad but the problem is still there.I phoned the garage and they said it must be the high pressure pump. so was their first diaganostics wrong? What is happening is your driving along quite nicely and you ease up on the excelorator and the injection light comes on,( flashing ) the van seems to lose all power and as the van slows down to about 20mph it suddenly comes back to life as if nothing was wrong.Sometimes it does not happen for quite along time and then you get another bout.help any one with any idea.    

i had a verty similar fault with a transit turned out it was the throttle peddal fly by wire maybe of help maybe not

jules in Northampton, United Kingdom said: it does sound like a fuel pump problem, also get them to check the low pressure delivery pump, how old is the van

the van is on a 51 plate, i replaced the low pressure pump last year, this bout of problems seemed to appear after i ran low on diesel, easy with hindsight i pulled into a garage off the a34 and there was quite a queue and i noticed a lot of the diesel pumps were out of order. not long after that the problems atarted we were advised first to change the filters which we did, that improved things slightly then we drained the filter and got some water out. the van was taken to the dealer and that is when they diagnosed the injector problem they replaced one injector and the injector light comes as the van dies as described earlier. cheers in anticipation jules.

mick thornley in Bury, United Kingdom said: i had a verty similar fault with a transit turned out it was the throttle peddal fly by wire maybe of help maybe not

cheers mick i'll check this out too!

ianjb53 in Wallasey, United Kingdom said: we all seem to have the same problem with the iveco i have had the filter and low pressure pump renewed and now the van does not start in the mornings or when its left for say 3 hours i have to give it a spray of easy gas then it starts also it has cut out but you just turn key again and it goes again the injector light comes on as it dies

My van starts ok, and runs ok , until you ease off the accelarator, then the injector light comes on the van dies then as the speed drops to around 20mph it just picks up again until the next time you ease off the gas.

Hi i have a iveco 50c11 on a 2001 X plate it has started pressurizing and using coolant ,i pressurized the cooling system and found no external leaks but when i tried to start it it locked up so i thought the headgasket was the problem,i removed the head replaced the gasket built it backup only to find when i started it it was still bubblig in the header tank and using water although not as much ,i have removed the head again a week later and had it pressure tested but it is ok ,do you have any ideas or are there any common problems that i am missing ,thanks in advance Ian

Guys,
Interesting read, I fell upon this thread as I am looking for some help with a 1996 Turbo Daily With the 2,8 Td. Whenever the engine is under load i hear a load 'Metalic' sounding tapping from the engine, whenever I release the throttle (at any speed) the noise dissappears.
I know this is potentially the sign of a big end going but I am willing to hear any suggestions incase it could be a simple fix. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I am also having a problem starting my 2004 2.3 HPI Iveco Daily van. the van was running fine until it had a front end crash which pushed the Radiator back and cracked the plastic off the timing belt cover and down into the belt area. Then when the van was rebuild it would not start, it would turn over but not fire up and this turned out to be that some of the plastic got jammed under one of the flywheels and the timing belt slipped smashing eight of the fingers on the top of the head this was repaired and I collected the van and drove it home where it was perfect. I then parked it up and drove it out of the garage the next day and parked it as it was not required then when we went to start it in the evening it will only turn over but wont start and the red injector light is flashing on the Dashboard.

I have read all the comments and will try eaststart tomorrow. Thank you to all the helpful people who have posted comments.

hi mate, does the light come on with out you trying to start it, if so could be come thing as simple as a plug, easyy start is good but dont use alot as it can damage your engine, you realltneed it checking out with an iveco laptop,

Hi, I purchased an 03 Iveco Daily MWB Irisbus which only had 1 key. Now some **** has thrown it away with some rubbish when the office was re-decorated. Apart from replacing the whole lock set and re-programming does anyone have any good suggestions? This vehicle did'nt come with the manufacturers wallet either!! So no key card. Cheers Brian

I have a 35S13, 2002 (bought new) which has just done 100000km,
mostly highway driving. At 90000 the timing belt was
replaced and I started noticing that the engine no longer
"purrs", it now growls and a tappet noise has become quite
noticable. At 70km/h, 2000rpm, 5th gear there seemed to be a
"flat spot" in the power band - the note of the engine changes,
something which did not happen before the belt was changed.

Before the service I had also noticed a slight increase in fuel
consumption. It was tested and "nothing was wrong".

At 100000km I took it to a mechanic who with the help of some
faxed timing belt documentation determined that the pump was out
by a 1/3 turn, that is, when the cam-shaft is at TDC (12), the
fuel pump alignment is supposed to be at the bottom, in our case
it was at 11 o'clock. Or, if the pump alignment was at 6, the
cam-shaft is at 9, rather than 12.

Continued...

After setting the timing belt the way the manual specified, I
took it for a test drive and all was back to normal. The tappet
noise had vanished.

Three days later and it's growling again, there seems to be a
new high pitched squeal at 90km/h, 2000rpm, 6th gear, and the
tappet noise has now increased to higher than before the change.

The growl is now most noticable in low gear coming up a hill.

The mechanic is suggesting to put an additive into to kill any
bugs, but my research seems to indicate that while bugs in
diesel may well be an issue, I don't have any other symptoms.

I'm reluctant to return to the dealer who replaced the
timing belt in the first place because every time I visit,
more of my vehicle gets broken - the last visit broke the
clips on both head-lights, broke a globe, replaced the
pollen filter back to front, did not initially replace the
air filter, lost a spotlight bolt and managed to put the
timing belt on incorrectly. So, not my favorite dealership :(

My next closest dealership is 2700km east of me.

Any suggestions, recommendations or comments?

brian in Birmingham, United Kingdom said: Hi, I purchased an 03 Iveco Daily MWB Irisbus which only had 1 key. Now some **** has thrown it away with some rubbish when the office was re-decorated. Apart from replacing the whole lock set and re-programming does anyone have any good suggestions? This vehicle did'nt come with the manufacturers wallet either!! So no key card. Cheers Brian

Your VIN should be able to be tracked back to the factory where you might be able to find out what key was fitted. Be prepared to pay $$$ for a new key and programming :(

brian in Birmingham, United Kingdom said: Hi, I purchased an 03 Iveco Daily MWB Irisbus which only had 1 key. Now some **** has thrown it away with some rubbish when the office was re-decorated. Apart from replacing the whole lock set and re-programming does anyone have any good suggestions? This vehicle did'nt come with the manufacturers wallet either!! So no key card. Cheers Brian

Your VIN should be able to be tracked back to the factory where you might be able to find out what key was fitted. Be prepared to pay $$$ for a new key and programming :(

hi i work at an iveco dealer, the only way you will be able to do this is if you get in contact with the original selling dealer, they should have the electronic and mechanical code of the key, this will only work if the locks and barrels havnt been changed priviously.

Help
My Iveco Turbo daily 2.8 'Y reg'is having problems starting when the engine is warm.
It turns over but does not fire.
Starts again fine once cooled down.
Starts great when cold.
Please let me know of any suggestions.

Regards
Steve

i just brought 1991 iveco box 23-16 v6 euroturbo. i have couple problems, 1st, the air brake psi don't cut off, it's go passed the red mark. i drove around the brakes seem to work fine, is this safe to drive?. 2nd, the truck start w/key, but cannot shut off w/key. i shut it off with put in gear and step on brake, and the dash lights would remain on and i disconnect the battery to save the battery. can someone pls help.

ian in Kingston Upon Hull, United Kingdom said: Hi i have a iveco 50c11 on a 2001 X plate it has started pressurizing and using coolant ,i pressurized the cooling system and found no external leaks but when i tried to start it it locked up so i thought the headgasket was the problem,i removed the head replaced the gasket built it backup only to find when i started it it was still bubblig in the header tank and using water although not as much ,i have removed the head again a week later and had it pressure tested but it is ok ,do you have any ideas or are there any common problems that i am missing ,thanks in advance Ian

i have the same problem,did you find the answer.

mick in London, United Kingdom said: i have the same problem,did you find the answer.

Hi Mick i fitted a new gasket again and it was better but still under a bit of pressure ,the cooling system was a pain to bleed and i think this was my problem the first time because it was not circulating correctly also my vehicle is a minibus so also has heater pipes running to the rear to a heater in the rear which made it worse to bleed ,i removed the heater matrix pipes coming out of the bulkhead and it then flowed through bringing a lot of air out with it ,i would also recommend getting the head skimmed ,iveco dont use new head bolts every time but they say to measure them ,i have the measurement some where if you need it let me know also the torque figures for the head bolts hope this helps you Ian

thanks for the reply ian. i took the head of today and did not find anything obvious.i have ordered a new head gasket,and will be fitting it monday, so the torque settings for the head bolts would be very handy.thanks mick

mick in London, United Kingdom said: thanks for the reply ian. i took the head of today and did not find anything obvious.i have ordered a new head gasket,and will be fitting it monday, so the torque settings for the head bolts would be very handy.thanks mick

Hi Mick what was yours doing by the way ,mine had blown the head gasket originaly because i pressure tested it and found the coolant leaking into the cylinders and it hydraulic,ed when i started it ,but like i said i think i was hasty in removeing the head the second time because i think now it was just air locked and is now fine ,...sorry for going on a bit the torque settings are 60nm and 60nm again then 180degrees ,i have autodata on cd so if you want the torque sequence let me know and i can e mail it to you ,Cheers Ian

hi ian thank you for the head bolt torques.ihave now had the head pressure tested and skimmed all seems ok.new head bolts and gasket on its way, hope to fit tommorow, so sequence for head tightening would be very handy. many thanks

ianjb53 in Wallasey, United Kingdom said: we all seem to have the same problem with the iveco i have had the filter and low pressure pump renewed and now the van does not start in the mornings or when its left for say 3 hours i have to give it a spray of easy gas then it starts also it has cut out but you just turn key again and it goes again the injector light comes on as it dies

hi mate just reading your problem on the diesel forum ive got an 02 daily with the exact same fault ive changed the stop solenoid but it will only start with easystart in the mornin im due a diag test on monday did you solve your fault ! was it injectors or if not help if you can thanks keith

hi, keith you couldnt have changed the stop solenid as these pumps donthave one, its sounds like you also have a problem with your injectors common on these vehicles

HELLO I HAVE A IVECO 35S11V 52 PLATE. IT SEEMS TO USE A LOT OF FUEL ABOUT 300 MILE TO THE TANK ,IF IM LUCKY. BUT MY MANE CONCERN IS THAT WHEN ITS ON ABOUT AN 8TH OF A TANK, IT DONT LIKE STARTING FIST TIME. IT CUTS OUT WHEN DRIVING AT THE SAME TIME (WHEN ON 8TH OF A TANK).ALL THAT HAPPENS IS THE ENGINE STOPS THE RED KEY LIGHT FLASHES ON, THEN IT STARTS AGAIN, WHILE DRIVING . I HAVE NOTICED THAT WHEN I FILLING IT BACK UP WITH FUEL THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF MIST COMING FROM THE INSIDE OF THE TANK.IS THERE ANY ONE THAT CAN HELP,WOULD BE MUCH APRRECIATED THANKYOU. RICKY

hi, i take it this vehicle has a rotary fuel pump and not common rail, we use to have this quite alot, what happens is, the fuel pump is cooled by the diesel, as the level gets low, the fuel temperature increases, so the pump gets hot, the pump has the immobiliser built on top of it which then plays up and that is why the key light flashes, next time it does it, poor a lot of water over the pump and see if it starts, im affraid it could be an exspensive repair unless you can get an electrician to bypass the immobiliser,

I posted the fact that I could not start my 2004 Iveco daily the day after having the head fingers replaced as it would turn over but not start. 1st) went into Cardiff Iveco for Diagnosis which said pressure rail fuel sensor (charged me for 2hrs labour for diagnosis)put a new one on and no change... 2nd)another diagnosis (charged for 1 hour labour) said the fuel pump, changed it and still no change.... I then gave up on cardiff and took it to Merthyr Tydfil Iveco who quickly found that the problem was a pin in the plug that connects to the ECU.. IT NOW RUNS FINE....

could any one give me some detals on changing the timing belt on my 65 15 2.8 diesl iveco daly

hi mate how old is vehicle as i need to know if it is common rail or a rotary fuel pump, also it about a 2-3 hour job, not really hard but can be tricky, thanks jules

it is a 2002 2.8 turbo intercooler and not sure on the others hoe do i tell thanks

if its a 2002 it should be common rail fuel system, its quite a delicate job have you mechanical experience,

I have a 2002 iveco daily 2.8 it seems to have the same problems as lot of you the red injector light flashes while going along and loses power and then is fine. also didnt start other day . but i have never had a glowplug light ever come up on the dash. These van are a nightmare wish i hadnt sold my transit....anyone help any advice cheers

Rob in Caerphilly, United Kingdom said: Yes it does Jules the light will come on without me even starting the van and the only time that it fired (only once) was when I took the battery off,recharged and refitted it.. Any ideas?

Hi, Did you find out the problem with this as my iveco is doing the same it started yesterday and now it wont start, turning over, red injector light flashing, and flashing when ignition is on also.

Any help would be great,

jules in Northampton, United Kingdom said: have you sorted van if not reply and i will help

hi jules no havnt sorted van still injector light flashes just carnt think wot the problem can be ive had all major replaced by iveco its self but still no joy any ideas would be great thanks

cpreatoni in London, United Kingdom said: I have a 2002 iveco daily 2.8 it seems to have the same problems as lot of you the red injector light flashes while going along and loses power and then is fine. also didnt start other day . but i have never had a glowplug light ever come up on the dash. These van are a nightmare wish i hadnt sold my transit....anyone help any advice cheers

I work for Iveco usually you will find that the contacts in the injector plugs need closing up or a new loom fitted, if thats any help to you!

Hey,

I'm currently working on a new shape Euro 4 daily that seams to have a comprehensive fault,
I have been working on it for the last 2 weeks and 6 other fitters before me.
it was recovered in as another garage had done a engine rebuild a while back, up on further investigation of the non start we found that the timing was out and that the crank and cam gear positioning pins were sheered off, so new crank, pulleys, tappets were fitted. The head has been sent off and checked twice, as the first time No# 4 & 3 valves were replaced but not lapped in correctly, pistons were removed and the rings replaced. I then checked The piston protrusion and all were within tolerance. upon rebuilding and running we find that it runs rough, and there's a cuffing sound from the inlet there for i carried out a compression test with E.A.S.Y and manually but both state compression is low on number 3 and very low on 4, I then carried out a cylinder leakage test which showed no signs of excessive air escaping

has any one had any faults like this before and is any one able to help please

Bmtm87 in Bristol, United Kingdom said: I work for Iveco usually you will find that the contacts in the injector plugs need closing up or a new loom fitted, if thats any help to you!

hello bmtm87 i had problem with iveco daily were the injecter system caused my red light to come on and the engined idled when it 20mph and begain too cut out thn it run for while . i phoned iveco they said they put on the lap top . my mancanic frm back street garage got it running only for while . then i read your reply here above i txt him it this what happened its running thank u . no lap needed the red light is still on but so is my brake light on the dash so its working and bombing thank you for your advice cheers mate

Hi guys,

Wondering if anyone can help!!!! PLEASE!!! Had the timing belt, pulley and tensioner replaced on our Iveco daily turbo diesel 2005 - 6,000km later, the bolts on pulley snaped - and timing belt went flying!! Our mechanic (who ofcourse will not cover it under warranty) can not find any info on cylinder head tension! Seems like most of you had already done the job a few times...... can you please supply me with the info - I really need the van back on the road (only so it can brake down again!) as rental charges are killing us!!! THANK YOU:=)AND yes what ever you do, DO NOT BUY an iveco I reckon this piece of S#*T spends more time in repair than on the road!!!