Where to go to take a LPN exam? I am a MA and want to challenge the test.

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erikad99 in West Palm Beach, Florida

32 months ago

Susan in Mount Vernon, Washington said: It seems like this is all apples and oranges and the MA's are missing the point. An MA is not the same thing as an LPN. An LPN and an RN are more similar because they are both nurses..i.e. the critical thinking skills, assessment, etc. I keep seeing comments like "an LPN/RN had to ask an MA what to do" or "I do the same work as an LPN/ RN so I should be one too even though I haven't gone to school"...lol. A paramedic and an RN aren't the same thing, for that matter...different animals, different focus in the education and clinical training. The comments here I am seeing from MA's is typically "I do the same tasks as an LPN/RN so I should be able to do a challenge exam, I know as much as an LPN/ /RN." YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT. A few nurses have made the point- the education is quite different. The focus is quite different. A doctor's education is diagnostic. A PA's education is diagnostic in focus. A nurse's education is patient care, critical thinking, assessment. An MA's education is more about tasks and assisting the doctor. A Hospice nurse said this to me once, when I was a brand new nurse and afraid of some of the "tasks"...."a trained monkey could do these tasks! What makes a good nurse is the ability to assess a patient." And that is the piece that MA's are missing. An MA may do a bang-up job of performing technical tasks. Doctors may even have them (illegally) doing phone triage and medication administration . But they're not nurses. They can be fantastic at their jobs, but they're not nurses. Just like nurses aren't paramedics. Or doctors."

BRAVO! i am an LPN who is so tired of seeing people think they can do my job by "being a good MA" I also went to MA school and I knew my place! Yes some MAs are amazing, but shove them into a nursing home and see if they can keep up! HAHAHAAAA NO!

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erikad99 in West Palm Beach, Florida

32 months ago

Cubbaz in Murrieta, California said: I think if you would have started out as an MA you would not be so quick to judge. An MA and LVN are almost equal. I work with them all day long and see them asking the MA what they should do!

I have been a nurse 10 years and I have asked CNAs how I should make a bed when i first got out of school.. does that mean that the CNA can automatically do my job since I had to ask how to make a bed the way the patient prefers? Not at all! Odds are an unexperienced LPN asked an MA how to do a job that the MA had experience doing. That doesn't make the MA a nurse! Thats like saying if a doctor asks a mechanic how to change his oil in his car the mechanic can perform surgery on a human! smh!

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erikad99 in West Palm Beach, Florida

32 months ago

Cheri in Niceville, Florida said: Well I am a MA and yes I know how to change sterile dressings, and straight cath , and start IV's
Keep sterile area so yes to your question. While in my MA program Iearned just as much as a LPN
And I know i can do a great job as a Lpn. Well Educated. Sign MA in Fl.

Cool.. come change my wound vac and while your at it the patient in room 209 wants her pain pills NOW, and oh.. the doctor has an order up there flagged that needs taken off right away. Can you push meds cuz room 113 needs their pain meds via IV.. Oh your not IV certified?? ok!! Well can you go check that J-tube for placement? Do you know the difference between a g tube and j tube without googling the answer? How bout a JP drain? Can you do that? Patient in room 109 pulled their Gtube out.. what are you going to do? Hurry Nurse... Times ticking! LOL
An MA is a VERRRRRYYYYYYYYY far cry from a nurse... I have my MA and my nurse's license and I know the difference... Just knowing what a sterile field is doesn't make u a nurse. I know how to change oil does that make me a mechanic??? I know how to do a few things that doctors are the only one's supposed to do.. can i sit for my MD boards?? You are pretty arrogant to think that knowing a few "BASIC" yes i said BASIC skills makes you a nurse! There is a reason YOU AREN'T SITTING FOR BOARDS!

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Richard H LVN in CA and LPN in NH in Davis, California

29 months ago

Kat in Mansfield, Texas said: I believe you have to be a CA resident, and have practiced there for at least 5 years in an inpatient setting with so many hours in different areas such as OB and peds. You also have to complete an approved pharmacology course. I can't imagine this is an easy process. Then your license is only limited to CA. I don't know of any other states that allow people to challenge the LPN exam. If you have your AS some of your classes might transfer towards the prereqs for a nursing program. In my area there are several tech schools that have PT LVN programs for working people.

New Hampshire and California do not require graduation. I know from experience. I attended an RN program and could not finish. There may be other states too, I think there are about 5 states that allow a NCLEX PN challenge without graduation.

For Califonia's requirements: www.bvnpt.ca.gov/summary_vn.shtml#section3
and here: www.bvnpt.ca.gov/licensing/method_3.shtml#PHARM

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mariedieudonne in Miami, Florida

29 months ago

I created this account when I lived in Miami, I now live in Georgia..
I am a CMA, I JUST sat for and passed boards from the AAMA.
Depending on where the MA works, he or she may know the same or more than an LPN.
And with many years of experience as a GOOD MA, maybe an RN.

I work for a hospital, Gastroenterology dept to be exact!!!

But I do want to continue to be an RN THROUGH RN SCHOOL to get all of the book education that I can, need to master boards and work my way up the ladder...

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mendray42@*****.*** in Cathedral City, California

28 months ago

shanna in Arlington, Texas said: yes a medical assistant is almost equivalent to an LVN or what you may call a LPN. The only difference is we are not liscensed and cannot push meds via IVs.

You said it, almost, at the school I went to in California, the students that does not pass the entrance test for the LPN class end up in the MA class, I just do not understand, why people want to challenge everything, just go to school and get it over with. all I know is that MA's are not nurses, but if you want to be, just go to school.

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mendray42@*****.*** in Cathedral City, California

28 months ago

Marie Dieudonne in Miami, Florida said: I created this account when I lived in Miami, I now live in Georgia..
I am a CMA, I JUST sat for and passed boards from the AAMA.
Depending on where the MA works, he or she may know the same or more than an LPN.
And with many years of experience as a GOOD MA, maybe an RN.

I work for a hospital , Gastroenterology dept to be exact!!!

But I do want to continue to be an RN THROUGH RN SCHOOL to get all of the book education that I can, need to master boards and work my way up the ladder...

MA's are not nurses people, it does not matter what experience you have.

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mendray42@*****.*** in Cathedral City, California

28 months ago

I do not like to talk bad about anybody, but an MA's ARE NOT NURSES, if you want to be a nurse, just go to school and sit for the boards and get your license, to be a nurse takes too much out of you, basically you need to put your life on hold and give all your time to your studies, many students do not make it, because its not that simple, you have to have the brains and the love for the profession, if you fail a simple exam, you may get a chance for a retake, but no more chances and you are out of the program. the nursing programs are not that easy. But please, do not call yourself a nurse when you are not. not because I am an RN with 20 years of Experience and done most of everything in a hospital, I am not going to call my self s doctor!!!!! if you want to be a nurse, why are you going to an MA program or classes? just go to a nursing program. Come on people lets be real.

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MysideoftheMountain in Greeley, Colorado

25 months ago

What absolutely shocks me in all this banter is the arrogance of everyone, but especially the nurses! I would really think people could be a little more kind and possibly a bit more HUMBLE??? I also have noticed people love to speak and give their opinions on subject matter about which they know almost nothing! Let me first say that I started as a paramedic. Then I entered the military and worked as a military medic for four years. I received all my training from a PA and a physician. When I got out into the civilian world, I wondered where I could go and use my skills. I learned that I could sit for LPN boards in certain states with my military background and a letter of recommendation from my supervising physician. I had to work to collect the money to take on this feat so I got a job working as an MA. I ended out holding and MA job for a couple years. I then went on to just skip the LPN and become an RN. I worked in that field for 9 years and am now in my last year of school for PA. I have learned so much along the way and I believe that the experience I have garnered allows me to speak from an informed place.

The nurses are dead wrong about several facts. MAs absolutely can administer meds. Most clinics have some sort of CLIA licensure that requires med admin be recorded and that could mean big trouble if it was illegal. It's not, though. MAs are required to take A&P and pharm, they are trained in IV start and maintenance, sterile technique, they are qualified to triage and yes, it IS legal...I could go on but I'll stop here. The MA field has change drastically in the last few years. The big difference is that MAs are not qualified to work in INPT settings, they are outpt trained only. Fact checking is important, you guys are nurses for God's sake! My own kind disappoint me! Show a little humility and less insecurity. Nobody is taking your credit away from you. If it were that easy to become a nurse, more CNAs and MAs would have done it, am I right?

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zig in Fort Lauderdale, Florida

25 months ago

Hi, thanks so much for the info do you have the phone number that I can call and ask if I can challenge the lpn exam......again thank you.

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MysideoftheMountain in Greeley, Colorado

25 months ago

zig in Fort Lauderdale, Florida said: Hi, thanks so much for the info do you have the phone number that I can call and ask if I can challenge the lpn exam......again thank you.

I am not sure but I think maybe this question was directed toward me? If so, CA and TX are the only states of which I am aware that will allow a person to sit for boards. However, that being said, to my knowledge, there are certain requirements. I was a military medic and had my paramedics license. I believe you must have experience as a military medic or be a paramedic in order to sit for boards. The best way to find out the answers to your questions is to call your state board of nursing. They have all the information you need. I would highly recommend you Google that and find the phone number, then give them a call and find out if you are qualified to sit for boards.

Good luck to you!

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zig in Fort Lauderdale, Florida

25 months ago

bill whats the no.

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Jen in Mount Vernon, Washington

25 months ago

Hi,
I think a lot of this- scope of MA vs LPN or RN- depends on the state. In WA, MA's absolutely cannot do triage. They can gather information then pass it on to a nurse, RN or LPN. As for meds, here is the info for WA state:
Administering Medications – MAs may only administer medications if the drugs are:
o Administered only by unit or single dosage, or by a dosage calculated and verified
by health care practitioner; (Note that a combination or multidose vaccine is
considered a unit dose.)
o Limited to legend drugs, vaccines, and the schedule III-V controlled substances as
authorized by a health care practitioner under the scope of her/his license; and
o Administered pursuant to a written order from a health care practitioner.
Note: A MA-C may not administer experimental drugs or chemoth

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nurse betty in Jackson, Mississippi

13 months ago

lilmama in Jefferson City, Missouri said: I disagree, I am an RMA, I went through 15 months of school, I work at a clinic and do the exact same thing as LPN if not more. Most MA's do get offended because they don't get the credit they work for, may not have a license but know just as much and with their ability to work under a Dr's license they learn just as much, so I don't think it's right that you say LPN is "WAY" more deatailed because that really isn't true.

MA in Mississippi work as certified nursing assistants. Lpns are nurses and ma are medical assistants! If you want to be a nurse go back to school!

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nurse betty in Jackson, Mississippi

13 months ago

nafisa_davis in Madison, Wisconsin said: I am am CMA and I pass all meds,I triage, do urgent care, and surigcal procedures, I am also able to do blood draws. I am not allow to do IV's except I attend a class thru my job; so we have alot in common with LPNs.

You don't have anything in common with a LICENSE PRACTICAL NURSE! You have a lot in common with a CERTIFIED NURSING ASSISTANT! You have to go to nursing school and take your boards. I am a lpn and all ma think that they are nurses! You will get in trouble for acting as a nurse. I will sure as hell get my license took if I tried to be a registered nurse! Go to school

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St in Cleveland, Ohio

2 months ago

I am a certified nurses aid and state tested nurses aid. In CA I can challenge the board for my LVN aka LPN after working 54 month its five years you have to go back to school for pharmacology

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Gigi Abston in Oakland, California

2 months ago

lpn in Tucson, Arizona said: You cannot "challenge" a nursing exam. You must have educational requirements that only nursing schools offer.

I have to disagree with you. I did my research and contacted the California board of vocational nursing and was advised that if you have 51 months paid bedside experience and have completed 54 hour pharmacology all verifiable you'll get the attachment letter. A friend sent me this link www.method3review.webs.com and www.healthtechu.net

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Isel in Miami, Florida

1 month ago

The best you can do is: go straight to do your BSN that's what I'm doing right now, at West Coast University there's no online courses for nurses...
By the TEAS book to practice and prepare for the TEAS admission test, and 36 to 40 weeks study.

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