Where to go to take a LPN exam? I am a MA and want to challenge the test.

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Kentomic in Colorado Springs, Colorado

33 months ago

Dee Thornton in Santa Ana, California said: Good Morning all,
Maybe you can help me. I am a Medical Assistant and I was told by my teacher that I could challenge the test and become a LPN. Is this true? If so, where do I go. I live in Newport News, VA.

In 2000 my mom graduated with her MA and while she was on her extern for it she took her LPN exam.... my mom has now been an LPN for 12 yrs, very happily. I am now gettin ready to do the same. (Colorado)

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Cubbaz in Murrieta, California

33 months ago

mxxmaker in Brooklyn, Michigan said: I am glad I don't live in California to receive care from so-called "nurses" like you are trying to pass yourself off to be. A nurse goes to school and completes a program! You are not a nurse unless you do that!

There are a lot of LVNs that completed a program and still don't know what they are doing! It depends on the individual! MAs are just as competent.

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Cubbaz in Murrieta, California

33 months ago

Jody in Waunakee, Wisconsin said: An MA CANNOT challenge the LPN state boards as an MA is not a nurse, so therefore has no nursing training. An RN student who has completed the first year of training can challenge the LPN state boards. CNA 's cannot challenge either, as, even with years of experience and an important member of the team, are not nurses. If you are an LPN and want to become an RN, here in Wisconsin, you really just need to apply for the advanced standing in the 2 year associate degree program, so will only need to go to school for the second year. I do believe LPN's should be able to challenge to RN board without the second year of education , as so many LPN's do the exact same thing as RN's, and both are nurses, after all. I was an LPN, completed the last 10 months of RN training, passed the boards, and am now an RN. I truthfully could have tested out of every class do to my work as a hospital nurse for 5 years. I completed the 10 months with a 4.0 GPA.

I think if you would have started out as an MA you would not be so quick to judge. An MA and LVN are almost equal. I work with them all day long and see them asking the MA what they should do!

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Susan in Mount Vernon, Washington

20 months ago

It seems like this is all apples and oranges and the MA's are missing the point. An MA is not the same thing as an LPN. An LPN and an RN are more similar because they are both nurses..i.e. the critical thinking skills, assessment, etc. I keep seeing comments like "an LPN/RN had to ask an MA what to do" or "I do the same work as an LPN/ RN so I should be one too even though I haven't gone to school"...lol. A paramedic and an RN aren't the same thing, for that matter...different animals, different focus in the education and clinical training. The comments here I am seeing from MA's is typically "I do the same tasks as an LPN/RN so I should be able to do a challenge exam, I know as much as an LPN/ /RN." YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT. A few nurses have made the point- the education is quite different. The focus is quite different. A doctor's education is diagnostic. A PA's education is diagnostic in focus. A nurse's education is patient care, critical thinking, assessment. An MA's education is more about tasks and assisting the doctor. A Hospice nurse said this to me once, when I was a brand new nurse and afraid of some of the "tasks"...."a trained monkey could do these tasks! What makes a good nurse is the ability to assess a patient." And that is the piece that MA's are missing. An MA may do a bang-up job of performing technical tasks. Doctors may even have them (illegally) doing phone triage and medication administration. But they're not nurses. They can be fantastic at their jobs, but they're not nurses. Just like nurses aren't paramedics. Or doctors. Or respiratory therapists. Or physical therapists. There is a place for all these specialties in medicine. But when we start cutting corners and assuming we know as much as nurses do because we do some of the same very basic technical tasks... that's just wrong. (A nurse does some of the same technical tasks as a physician- does that mean we should just jump the medical school coursework and "challenge" the boards? not...

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Ms. V in Jacksonville, Florida

19 months ago

In response to Lisa, I have been a CMA for 17yrs. I have worked in a number of different settings including a hospital. Keeping a sterile area doesn't make you a good MA, LPN, or RN. Putting patient care first and compassion for your field is what makes you great at it. I didn't receive a lot training in MA school about a lot of things that I know now but keeping a sterile field was one of the first things I learned in MA school. MA, LPN, RN are just titles. Even after school you learn as you go. I'm an excellent CMA and I love what I do everyday. Helping people to live a healthy and better life and showing them compassion when they need it is apart of who I am, not just keeping a sterile area.

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Did in Altamonte Springs, Florida

18 months ago

NclexRN boards are easy peasy once you learn the language. Pain related to heart attack aeb pt stating blah blah blah. In addition every other answer is, contact the dr.
Nurses know this, but have a monopoly and are not giving it up. Most medically trained people in ANY discipline could pass, just as RN are unfairly allowed to challenge other disciplines.
I WAS ASTONISHED at how EASY the RN board exam was. Elementary if you study.

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Did in Altamonte Springs, Florida

18 months ago

All medical disciplines first and foremost involve assessment susan.

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Did in Altamonte Springs, Florida

18 months ago

RN school was a big amount of "how much crap are you willing to eat." In order to have the privilege of giving 2 Tylenol for a headache and make 40 bucks an hour to do it. It doesn't take 2 years to teach someone to check their liver function prior to giving the meds. It's all right there in the nurses medicine manual. Derrrrrr. I DESPISED every single day. Oh and doing hospital corners on a sheet and not fluffing it to spread germs. Nonsense. They pick pick pick, in order to validate their monopoly. And then you are all paranoid for the NclexRN exam after their horribly difficult tests during school and it's a JOKE! It pissed me off. It's a racket.

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Did in Altamonte Springs, Florida

18 months ago

Head to toe assessment is done EVERY single time you interact as a parent to your own child. It's just a matter of being aware of things. Either you have the aptitude or you don't. You give a med, you assess and document. It's no big deal that other disciplines with experience shouldn't be allowed to challenge the boards.

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Did in Altamonte Springs, Florida

18 months ago

But all professions do this. Otherwise everyone would have the job. Take your prereq's and unfortunately go through 5 terms of nonsense nursing jargon to learn how they want us to think, so they can say they are a "profession with their unique language" so you can pass their ridiculous little exam and make a living while keeping everyone else out.

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urus siddiqui in Westborough, Massachusetts

17 months ago

hi friends
i took NACE I: Foundation of Nursing exam and passed with good score.
but i failed in NACE I: Nursing Care of Childbearing Family exam. now i am going to take last one NACE I: Nursing Care of Child on December 9th. i am scared and nervous can anyone give me some tips to pass this exam.

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urus in Westborough, Massachusetts

15 months ago

i passed NACE I: Foundation of Nursing and Nursing Care of Child in first attempt with good score.
but i failed in NACE I: Nursing Care of Childbearing Family exam.
i found some good website for free practice of NACE and NCLEX .
i have some good books in PDF formet. if anyone looking free study material , mail me i will send website links and books free.
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the answer is very simple when i took my exam noone was there for help. so i decided to help others who is in my position. i am LPN and Pharmacy tech . i did same with Pharmacy tech material. daily i get more then 10 request for pharmacy tech material and i send daily free of cost. i love to help people . so you can mail me or left a massage here with email address for material and tell me you want books for all three exams or for a spacfic exam

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erikad99 in West Palm Beach, Florida

11 months ago

Annissa in Blairsville says: "I have worked as a MA in the past 13 years. I believe with additional work experience that a MA should be able to take the test. I have found with my experience, they can have you do the work of a LPN or even a RN, and not have to pay or give you credit for it. I believe a year of repeating most of the courses is a waste of time and money.
At a past job I was trained as a radiology tech, so they would not have to hire one and saved on the budget.
Most of the time we dont get the credit that a LPN does, even if it was almost the same courses and training."

Omg!! I wasn't going to comment but as an LPN who first was an MA and now I am in school for my Bachelors in Nursing I am shocked!!! I too took an MA program for 18 months and I am POSITIVE after taking an LPN program and working as an LPN for 10 years that there isn't an MA out there doing the "same exact job as an LPN". I am not by any means putting down an MA because I was one. I just know from experience that it is DEFINITELY two totally different jobs. An MA doesn't pass medication to 10 or more patients and do wound care or critical thinking in depth like a nurse. I am offended that you would even think that. It isn't my place to judge though so if by some slim chance you are even allowed to sit for boards based on your "experience as a nurse" lol you will likely drown. smh... People are so arrogant.. thats like me saying I have been a nurse for 10 years so i have the experience to be a doctor... wow!!

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erikad99 in West Palm Beach, Florida

11 months ago

Susan in Mount Vernon, Washington said: It seems like this is all apples and oranges and the MA's are missing the point. An MA is not the same thing as an LPN. An LPN and an RN are more similar because they are both nurses..i.e. the critical thinking skills, assessment, etc. I keep seeing comments like "an LPN/RN had to ask an MA what to do" or "I do the same work as an LPN/ RN so I should be one too even though I haven't gone to school"...lol. A paramedic and an RN aren't the same thing, for that matter...different animals, different focus in the education and clinical training. The comments here I am seeing from MA's is typically "I do the same tasks as an LPN/RN so I should be able to do a challenge exam, I know as much as an LPN/ /RN." YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT. A few nurses have made the point- the education is quite different. The focus is quite different. A doctor's education is diagnostic. A PA's education is diagnostic in focus. A nurse's education is patient care, critical thinking, assessment. An MA's education is more about tasks and assisting the doctor. A Hospice nurse said this to me once, when I was a brand new nurse and afraid of some of the "tasks"...."a trained monkey could do these tasks! What makes a good nurse is the ability to assess a patient." And that is the piece that MA's are missing. An MA may do a bang-up job of performing technical tasks. Doctors may even have them (illegally) doing phone triage and medication administration . But they're not nurses. They can be fantastic at their jobs, but they're not nurses. Just like nurses aren't paramedics. Or doctors."

BRAVO! i am an LPN who is so tired of seeing people think they can do my job by "being a good MA" I also went to MA school and I knew my place! Yes some MAs are amazing, but shove them into a nursing home and see if they can keep up! HAHAHAAAA NO!

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erikad99 in West Palm Beach, Florida

11 months ago

Cubbaz in Murrieta, California said: I think if you would have started out as an MA you would not be so quick to judge. An MA and LVN are almost equal. I work with them all day long and see them asking the MA what they should do!

I have been a nurse 10 years and I have asked CNAs how I should make a bed when i first got out of school.. does that mean that the CNA can automatically do my job since I had to ask how to make a bed the way the patient prefers? Not at all! Odds are an unexperienced LPN asked an MA how to do a job that the MA had experience doing. That doesn't make the MA a nurse! Thats like saying if a doctor asks a mechanic how to change his oil in his car the mechanic can perform surgery on a human! smh!

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erikad99 in West Palm Beach, Florida

11 months ago

Cheri in Niceville, Florida said: Well I am a MA and yes I know how to change sterile dressings, and straight cath , and start IV's
Keep sterile area so yes to your question. While in my MA program Iearned just as much as a LPN
And I know i can do a great job as a Lpn. Well Educated. Sign MA in Fl.

Cool.. come change my wound vac and while your at it the patient in room 209 wants her pain pills NOW, and oh.. the doctor has an order up there flagged that needs taken off right away. Can you push meds cuz room 113 needs their pain meds via IV.. Oh your not IV certified?? ok!! Well can you go check that J-tube for placement? Do you know the difference between a g tube and j tube without googling the answer? How bout a JP drain? Can you do that? Patient in room 109 pulled their Gtube out.. what are you going to do? Hurry Nurse... Times ticking! LOL
An MA is a VERRRRRYYYYYYYYY far cry from a nurse... I have my MA and my nurse's license and I know the difference... Just knowing what a sterile field is doesn't make u a nurse. I know how to change oil does that make me a mechanic??? I know how to do a few things that doctors are the only one's supposed to do.. can i sit for my MD boards?? You are pretty arrogant to think that knowing a few "BASIC" yes i said BASIC skills makes you a nurse! There is a reason YOU AREN'T SITTING FOR BOARDS!

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Richard H LVN in CA and LPN in NH in Davis, California

8 months ago

Kat in Mansfield, Texas said: I believe you have to be a CA resident, and have practiced there for at least 5 years in an inpatient setting with so many hours in different areas such as OB and peds. You also have to complete an approved pharmacology course. I can't imagine this is an easy process. Then your license is only limited to CA. I don't know of any other states that allow people to challenge the LPN exam. If you have your AS some of your classes might transfer towards the prereqs for a nursing program. In my area there are several tech schools that have PT LVN programs for working people.

New Hampshire and California do not require graduation. I know from experience. I attended an RN program and could not finish. There may be other states too, I think there are about 5 states that allow a NCLEX PN challenge without graduation.

For Califonia's requirements: www.bvnpt.ca.gov/summary_vn.shtml#section3
and here: www.bvnpt.ca.gov/licensing/method_3.shtml#PHARM

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Marie Dieudonne in Miami, Florida

8 months ago

I created this account when I lived in Miami, I now live in Georgia..
I am a CMA, I JUST sat for and passed boards from the AAMA.
Depending on where the MA works, he or she may know the same or more than an LPN.
And with many years of experience as a GOOD MA, maybe an RN.

I work for a hospital, Gastroenterology dept to be exact!!!

But I do want to continue to be an RN THROUGH RN SCHOOL to get all of the book education that I can, need to master boards and work my way up the ladder...

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mendray42@YAHOO.COM in Cathedral City, California

7 months ago

shanna in Arlington, Texas said: yes a medical assistant is almost equivalent to an LVN or what you may call a LPN. The only difference is we are not liscensed and cannot push meds via IVs.

You said it, almost, at the school I went to in California, the students that does not pass the entrance test for the LPN class end up in the MA class, I just do not understand, why people want to challenge everything, just go to school and get it over with. all I know is that MA's are not nurses, but if you want to be, just go to school.

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mendray42@YAHOO.COM in Cathedral City, California

7 months ago

Marie Dieudonne in Miami, Florida said: I created this account when I lived in Miami, I now live in Georgia..
I am a CMA, I JUST sat for and passed boards from the AAMA.
Depending on where the MA works, he or she may know the same or more than an LPN.
And with many years of experience as a GOOD MA, maybe an RN.

I work for a hospital , Gastroenterology dept to be exact!!!

But I do want to continue to be an RN THROUGH RN SCHOOL to get all of the book education that I can, need to master boards and work my way up the ladder...

MA's are not nurses people, it does not matter what experience you have.

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mendray42@YAHOO.COM in Cathedral City, California

7 months ago

I do not like to talk bad about anybody, but an MA's ARE NOT NURSES, if you want to be a nurse, just go to school and sit for the boards and get your license, to be a nurse takes too much out of you, basically you need to put your life on hold and give all your time to your studies, many students do not make it, because its not that simple, you have to have the brains and the love for the profession, if you fail a simple exam, you may get a chance for a retake, but no more chances and you are out of the program. the nursing programs are not that easy. But please, do not call yourself a nurse when you are not. not because I am an RN with 20 years of Experience and done most of everything in a hospital, I am not going to call my self s doctor!!!!! if you want to be a nurse, why are you going to an MA program or classes? just go to a nursing program. Come on people lets be real.

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MysideoftheMountain in Greeley, Colorado

4 months ago

What absolutely shocks me in all this banter is the arrogance of everyone, but especially the nurses! I would really think people could be a little more kind and possibly a bit more HUMBLE??? I also have noticed people love to speak and give their opinions on subject matter about which they know almost nothing! Let me first say that I started as a paramedic. Then I entered the military and worked as a military medic for four years. I received all my training from a PA and a physician. When I got out into the civilian world, I wondered where I could go and use my skills. I learned that I could sit for LPN boards in certain states with my military background and a letter of recommendation from my supervising physician. I had to work to collect the money to take on this feat so I got a job working as an MA. I ended out holding and MA job for a couple years. I then went on to just skip the LPN and become an RN. I worked in that field for 9 years and am now in my last year of school for PA. I have learned so much along the way and I believe that the experience I have garnered allows me to speak from an informed place.

The nurses are dead wrong about several facts. MAs absolutely can administer meds. Most clinics have some sort of CLIA licensure that requires med admin be recorded and that could mean big trouble if it was illegal. It's not, though. MAs are required to take A&P and pharm, they are trained in IV start and maintenance, sterile technique, they are qualified to triage and yes, it IS legal...I could go on but I'll stop here. The MA field has change drastically in the last few years. The big difference is that MAs are not qualified to work in INPT settings, they are outpt trained only. Fact checking is important, you guys are nurses for God's sake! My own kind disappoint me! Show a little humility and less insecurity. Nobody is taking your credit away from you. If it were that easy to become a nurse, more CNAs and MAs would have done it, am I right?

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zig in Fort Lauderdale, Florida

4 months ago

Hi, thanks so much for the info do you have the phone number that I can call and ask if I can challenge the lpn exam......again thank you.

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MysideoftheMountain in Greeley, Colorado

4 months ago

zig in Fort Lauderdale, Florida said: Hi, thanks so much for the info do you have the phone number that I can call and ask if I can challenge the lpn exam......again thank you.

I am not sure but I think maybe this question was directed toward me? If so, CA and TX are the only states of which I am aware that will allow a person to sit for boards. However, that being said, to my knowledge, there are certain requirements. I was a military medic and had my paramedics license. I believe you must have experience as a military medic or be a paramedic in order to sit for boards. The best way to find out the answers to your questions is to call your state board of nursing. They have all the information you need. I would highly recommend you Google that and find the phone number, then give them a call and find out if you are qualified to sit for boards.

Good luck to you!

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zig in Fort Lauderdale, Florida

4 months ago

bill whats the no.

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Jen in Mount Vernon, Washington

4 months ago

Hi,
I think a lot of this- scope of MA vs LPN or RN- depends on the state. In WA, MA's absolutely cannot do triage. They can gather information then pass it on to a nurse, RN or LPN. As for meds, here is the info for WA state:
Administering Medications – MAs may only administer medications if the drugs are:
o Administered only by unit or single dosage, or by a dosage calculated and verified
by health care practitioner; (Note that a combination or multidose vaccine is
considered a unit dose.)
o Limited to legend drugs, vaccines, and the schedule III-V controlled substances as
authorized by a health care practitioner under the scope of her/his license; and
o Administered pursuant to a written order from a health care practitioner.
Note: A MA-C may not administer experimental drugs or chemoth

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