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tnock in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

81 months ago

I was recently reinstated as a pharmacist after a felony conviction, is realistic to think I can restart my career as a pharmacist?

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flpharm in Orlando, Florida

80 months ago

I can tell you it's going to be hard. My license was reinstated just about a year ago and have been trying to get a job ever since. I've been told that you just have to find the right employer that is sympathetic to your situation. The recruiters are completely uninterested if your license is on probation because they don't want to represent that type of client (that's what I've been told a few times). I've not had luck with any of the big chains (Walgreens/CVS etc) either. I've just started applying to jobs all over Florida because I've had absolutely NO luck at all near where I live. At this point I'll take anything I can get, no matter where it is.

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ListaB in Columbia, Missouri

80 months ago

please contact me in regards to this post. we are going through the same issues and would like to talk to you about it.
thanks
Linda Baldwin

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ListaB in Columbia, Missouri

80 months ago

linda_baldwin6@yahoo.com

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dlsmith3 in Muskegon, Michigan

61 months ago

tnock in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: I was recently reinstated as a pharmacist after a felony conviction, is realistic to think I can restart my career as a pharmacist?

Yes but you must talk directly to the hiring people in the smaller chains....

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2hsprn in Chelsea, Michigan

61 months ago

HUMBLE ADVICE: If you are SERIOUS about re-licensure, do WHATEVER IS ASKED OF YOU. You need to be humble yet eager, timid yet brave & have the drive to show everybody that you CAN get back to work. My board wanted to see involvement in therapy, community & my current employer's business. They wanted to see improvement every quarter. After ten years, I made it! License clear. That's when I applied successfully in WA & OR. DO NOT put the incident on any resume or CV. I used to explain everything at the very first interview but no longer do that. You can just see their face drooping & their eyes immediately look away from you, even when it's a phone interview. I now do not disclose anything to a future employer until I am made an offer or they bring it up in the interview. Even if the interviewer thinks they are immune to "addiction bias", it's still going to be there. Legally, I can answer 'No' to the question "Have you ever been convicted of a felony?" because of my Suspended Imposition of Sentence was invoked & my slate is clean (The judge himself told me that later). However, I must answer 'Yes' to "Have you ever had your professional licensed suspended, etc. etc". The real kicker is the fingerprints. As far as I know, they will ALWAYS be in a database kept by the FBI. Whether or not they link you to a criminal record is something I don't know. Both OR & WA did fingerprint & background checks & still licensed me "in good st&ing". It was terribly, terribly difficult & is extremely hard to tell the story to a future employer. But not one single interviewer EVER made me feel shame, guilt or anger or berated me for my sins. So think of that when you get nervous about the interview, nobody is going to hurt you. But through hard work & excellent counseling, you can make it. Twelve years of being contrite & law-abiding seems to have done the trick. Now if I could just fix our economy. =)

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dlsmith3 in Muskegon, Michigan

61 months ago

Hello,
I was just lately had my Rx license fully Re-instated and im currently looking for a job in Michigan,. How's your job search going? I got in trouble for gambling and the larger chain have been saying NO.

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flpharm in Orlando, Florida

61 months ago

I posted a comment above what looks like 19 months ago when I was desperately looking for a job for about a year and a half. I can say that I just celebrated working for 1 year at an independant pharmacy. I got kind of "lucky" because my PRN facilitator hooked me up with an interview with another pharmacist in PRN that owned a pharmacy. So there is hope out there. Unfortunately, I think the pharmacy is going to be closing soon so here I go again looking for jobs. Such is life though. Just because we are "clean" doesn't mean things are always sunny. However, they are easier. Atleast since all this has happened I have had my criminal record sealed so I can now answer "no" to those annoying "have you ever pled guilty...." questions. Being on probation with the board of pharmacy is always the hard part to explain to potential employers. I agree with "2hsprn" above that you can just see an interviewers face drop when you start telling them about why you had gaps in your employment.
Oh yeah, there is also this new law in Florida that if you have been convicted, pled no contest, etc to any felony after July 2009, you are ineligble to renew your license. I SQUEEKED by literally with mine being in Jan 2009. I read about another prn pharmacist who went through all the expensive rehab, getting license back etc, just to not be able to renew with this very new law.

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2hsprn in Chelsea, Michigan

61 months ago

Hello DL!
I've been in MI about 3 weeks so have roughly 3 weeks to go before I get my license. The 1st week I was here I had 2 face-to-face and 2 phone interviews. I've backed off a little because they all seem hesitant to make offers without your license in hand. So, I'm getting all set up to hit everybody really hard when I get the license.
So far it looks really good! Between all my auto-searches and LinkedIn there is about 400 openings in MI for pharmacists. So the field is ripe! I would think the gambling thing would be less of a deal-breaker than drug use so I think you'll be okay. Just keep at it!
Jay

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2hsprn in Chelsea, Michigan

61 months ago

Good for you FL! You know it's tough but it can be done. Plus, the more you interview the better you get at it. Always is uncomfortable but as I said before, nobody has ever lashed out at me or hit me or closed their notebook and walked out. The only person you have to fight is yourself, and it sounds like you're winning.

BTW, since I was spending the money on NABP I went ahead and applied in OH and IN, too. It's only $50 for each additional state and I figure I can still be fairly close to Ma if I find the right spot.

Best wishes to all!
Jay
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dlsmith3 in Muskegon, Michigan

61 months ago

That's a good idea..I'm going to apply for Illinois, Ohio and Arizona based on the info I got from www.hirenetwork.org that rates states according to rehab factors for felons. In Hawaii hey cant even ask about felony until after they offer u a job.

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pantinopoulos@*****.*** in Coraopolis, Pennsylvania

29 months ago

tnock in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: I was recently reinstated as a pharmacist after a felony conviction, is realistic to think I can restart my career as a pharmacist?

I just wanted to know if you acquired the help of an attorney that helped you get your license re-instated, I am pharmacist in PA that can reapply this October of 2014 I had a 6 year suspension. If you did get an attorney were they helpful in reinstatement. Thank you for your time

Peter J. Antinopoulos

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pharmdocjax in Jacksonville, Florida

29 months ago

Hi flpharm,
I am a RPh in Jacksonville who is currently on probation with the DOH, I have until 9/18 for my probation to end. I am also enrolled voluntarily in FL PRN, my contract runs from 11/12-11/17. I am planning to go before the BOP during the 1st quarter of 2015 to propose they end my probation early due to unforeseen hardship locating a job. I've applied to over 50 jobs since 1/14 and have had ZERO calls/interviews. I am 100% positive all potential employers are scared off once they see "Probation" on my license. Were you able to find employment while on probation? Thankfully, I was able to attend and successfully complete Drug Court so I have no criminal charges (in fact, the expungement just got approved). Unfortunately, all the "charges" are posted on my license as an administrative complaint forever.
Do you have any advice? I feel like unless I can get the BOP to shorten my probation, I am not going to be able to find an employer willing to take a chance on me. To make matters worse, I am also finding it very difficult to obtain Professional Liability Insurance which tells me if I can get insured, no employer will hire me because they probably won't be able to obtain coverage for me as an employee.

Thanks for any words or encouragement or advice you can give!
-J

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Cwest

13 months ago

tnock in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania said: I was recently reinstated as a pharmacist after a felony conviction, is realistic to think I can restart my career as a pharmacist?

Yes, send me your email address and we can talk privately

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nockthomas@*****.*** in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

13 months ago

Yes would like to discuss my future as a pharmacist. my email address: nockthomas@aol.com

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nockthomas@*****.*** in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

13 months ago

in response to your request for my email address: nockthomas@aol.com

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Dewercs PU in NYC, New York

12 months ago

Cwest said: Yes, send me your email address and we can talk privately

Im almost in your shoes, and I really don't think any real chances of getting back into the workforce.

Every non licensed job rejected me as I look for work, so pharmacies and pharmacy companies are not going to be much more forgiving or even bother with the surplus of pharmacists on the market.

Let me know how you do, good luck.

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rgiles in Missouri City, Texas

12 months ago

Hi I am trying to help my mom find a lawyer in the state of Texas that is willing to help her get re-instated. She has gone before the board aleverage times and they have shown prejudice and denied her reinstatement for over 10 yrs. I was told that she needs a good lawyer. If this is true, I need to know where to look. She can't find a job and can no longer take care of her family. Please help!
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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rwcpharma in RWC, California

10 months ago

My license is on probation - finishing my 1st year of 5 years. It has been almost impossible to find paid work. I do work as a volunteer pharmacist at a government hospital. Although I am thankful for the opportunity, but the people who work there were not too friendly towards me, so I just kept my head low and just do my job and mind my own business and not make any fuss or call too much attention to my presence.

I'd like to hear more feedback on job search. Has anyone in the same boat as I am here in California?

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frustratedillinois in Chicago, Illinois

8 months ago

I currently have my pharmacist license suspended until beginning of 2017. I've been trying to find a job that does not require a license, but I'm afraid that my suspended license will come up in any background check done by any company. This would obviously make it more difficult to find a job.... any job. Does anybody have experience with this? Thanks

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DoomedbyGoogle in Irvine, California

6 months ago

CA state Board of Pharmacy under Ms Held posts all the ugly details on the internet. Even if you pay your dues and surrender your license and your crime was not on the job or drug related they punish you forever. It is cruel. Judge. Jury, executioner.

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DoomedbyGoogle in Irvine, California

4 months ago

The California State Board of Pharmacy is hateful to its licensees.

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dgmindeed in Portland, Oregon

3 months ago

This is so true!!! I'm in the same boat with CA. They have no sympathy, regardless of whether you go to hearing or not. I was disciplined for something that was in another state, was NOT drug related, and the problem fixed and certified I am hoping they will not penalize me for what amounted to 'overworking' in my own independent pharmacy (try 60 hour weeks x10years without a significant break)!

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Breda Fyhft in Honulu, Hawaii

3 months ago

flpharm in Orlando, Florida said: I posted a comment above what looks like 19 months ago when I was desperately looking for a job for about a year and a half. I can say that I just celebrated working for 1 year at an independant pharmacy. I got kind of "lucky" because my PRN facilitator hooked me up with an interview with another pharmacist in PRN that owned a pharmacy. So there is hope out there. Unfortunately, I think the pharmacy is going to be closing soon so here I go again looking for jobs. Such is life though. Just because we are "clean" doesn't mean things are always sunny. However, they are easier. Atleast since all this has happened I have had my criminal record sealed so I can now answer "no" to those annoying "have you ever pled guilty...." questions. Being on probation with the board of pharmacy is always the hard part to explain to potential employers. I agree with "2hsprn" above that you can just see an interviewers face drop when you start telling them about why you had gaps in your employment.
Oh yeah, there is also this new law in Florida that if you have been convicted, pled no contest, etc to any felony after July 2009, you are ineligble to renew your license. I SQUEEKED by literally with mine being in Jan 2009. I read about another prn pharmacist who went through all the expensive rehab, getting license back etc, just to not be able to renew with this very new law.

Hi, hope everything is going well for you. i'm going through the same situation. Mind if i can email you for some insignt? Thanks

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pharmdocjax in Jacksonville, Florida

3 months ago

**UPDATE**: I was able to secure an inpatient hospital Pharmacist job in January 2015 and have been with that company ever since. The entire group of Pharmacy Supervisors met and discussed the in's and out's of my situation before they extended the job to me. At first, I was nervous that my coworkers would somehow find out about my past and refuse to work shifts with me for fear of narcotics coming up missing or what have you. However, as far as I am aware, none of the staff members have gotten wind of me being a dreaded FL PRN participant and I've had nothing but a fantastic work environment since day 1! Recently I was offered a position in one of the hospital's clinics working a regular "9 to 5" RPh job and am getting clinical experience in addition to a great schedule and proximity to my home! My contract with PRN ends November 2017 and I hope the BOP will decide I am no longer a threat to my community so they can lift my probation around the same time. Just because some of us got taken down by our disease, does not in many cases mean we can't rise from the ashes and succeed again. It takes time, patience, dedication and honesty...above all else, it is important to remember "We ARE powerless over our disease" and we will always have to stay focused on our sobriety EVERY SINGLE DAY. Good luck to everyone who is reading this in hopes of finding answers...as I've found out, not many professionals are willing to share their falls from grace.

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Retailpharmacist in Blue Springs, Missouri

2 months ago

I'm serving a 2 year probation 5/2016 to 5/2018 with MO board of Rx for having 8 prescription misfills in 2013 (8 months at a small independent long term care pharmacy) and then 10 in 2014 (8 months at Walmart) who records even the smallest thing as a misfill. None of them were serious errors that caused any harm or hospitalization. I was rehired at Walgreens Jan 2015, was performing very well with 4 errors in 12 months, while battling the MO board for almost 2 years with an attorney. I finally gave up and decided to serve the probation. Then in August 2016, I was just terminated from Walgreens, after recently bridging my 20 years of service, because a pharmacist on probation is not allowed to immunize in MO. Now no pharmacy will hire me in MO, KS or IA even though the other two licenses are completely clean. Does anyone have advice or experience with this situation? Thanks for any help!! teresalowerph@gmail.com

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