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Norma in New York, New York

25 months ago

Hello,
I'm a newbie in the Physical Therapy Assistant feild. Can some enlighten me on what the RC3-11 dabate means? I noticed it's been mentioned a couple of times on the forum.

www.apta.org/PTinMotion/NewsNow/2011/11/4/RC311/

Thank You

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James Donner in Racine, Wisconsin

25 months ago

Norma in New York, New York said: Hello,
I'm a newbie in the Physical Therapy Assistant feild. Can some enlighten me on what the RC3-11 dabate means? I noticed it's been mentioned a couple of times on the forum.

www.apta.org/PTinMotion/NewsNow/2011/11/4/RC311/

Thank You

Good news PTAs and future PTAs, RC-3-11 was REMOVED and REPLACED by RC-2-12. RC-2-12 reads ""the APTA recognizes that physical therapy is provided by, or under the direction and supervision of a physical therapist". An e-mail was sent out by Holly Clynch which is PTA sig President. Holly attended this years HOD and sent out a mass e-mail (which I got my hands on) giving a recap of some of the major motions brought forward. There is also another motion RC-20-12 which will soon require a Bachelor degree for entry level PTAs. Holly further says that this HOD was said to be MONUMENTAL in regards to PTAs. It was one of the first times the APTA has shown support and growth for the future of PTAs. This should be looked at as a good thing. Anyone who is interested in reading this entire email by Holly let me know and I can forward the email to you. I tried to copy and paste the email in the forum but is WAAAAY too long.

P.s. Student PTAs need not to worry your AS degree will still be valid as well as any PTAs starting school within the next few years.

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Norma in New York, New York

25 months ago

Hi James,
Thank You!

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kurtis chapaman in Breese, Illinois

25 months ago

James Donner in Racine, Wisconsin said: Good news PTAs and future PTAs, RC-3-11 was REMOVED and REPLACED by RC-2-12. RC-2-12 reads ""the APTA recognizes that physical therapy is provided by, or under the direction and supervision of a physical therapist". An e-mail was sent out by Holly Clynch which is PTA sig President. Holly attended this years HOD and sent out a mass e-mail (which I got my hands on) giving a recap of some of the major motions brought forward. There is also another motion RC-20-12 which will soon require a Bachelor degree for entry level PTAs. Holly further says that this HOD was said to be MONUMENTAL in regards to PTAs. It was one of the first times the APTA has shown support and growth for the future of PTAs. This should be looked at as a good thing. Anyone who is interested in reading this entire email by Holly let me know and I can forward the email to you. I tried to copy and paste the email in the forum but is WAAAAY too long.

P.s. Student PTAs need not to worry your AS degree will still be valid as well as any PTAs starting school within the next few years.

James id be interested in the email thanks

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AspiringPTA in Trenton, New Jersey

25 months ago

Please tell me this is all real! I've been planning on becoming a PTA and this is the only career I can picture myself doing right now that I know I will be happy with that can provide some security/stability. I am going back to school in a week and going full time for pre-reqs for PTA school. But now with this RC3-11 bill, I'm having a lot of uncertainty with actually following through with the program. I can only imagine what PTAs or those already in school must feel knowing this is going on. Can anyone provide the links regarding the articles about rc2-12 or more info? I need to know for sure. Thanks in advance.

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ACM in Fairmont, West Virginia

25 months ago

@ James, I would love the actual link to read the details of the proposed changes.I feel that this is an amazing leap forward for the PTA role. We will better be able to provide care under the supervision of the PT at a level that is cost effective and appropriate. I am completely in support of the Bachelor degree level. As for AspiringPTA, go for it! BEing a PTA is an excellent career choice and rewarding personally and financially. Even with changes that will be inevitable (I have been practicing for 16 years and I have made it through many changes), the supportive role of the PTA will remain strong as a clinical PT/PTA team.

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Eddy in West Palm Beach, Florida

25 months ago

James Donner in Racine, Wisconsin said: Good news PTAs and future PTAs, RC-3-11 was REMOVED and REPLACED by RC-2-12. RC-2-12 reads ""the APTA recognizes that physical therapy is provided by, or under the direction and supervision of a physical therapist". An e-mail was sent out by Holly Clynch which is PTA sig President. Holly attended this years HOD and sent out a mass e-mail (which I got my hands on) giving a recap of some of the major motions brought forward. There is also another motion RC-20-12 which will soon require a Bachelor degree for entry level PTAs. Holly further says that this HOD was said to be MONUMENTAL in regards to PTAs. It was one of the first times the APTA has shown support and growth for the future of PTAs. This should be looked at as a good thing. Anyone who is interested in reading this entire email by Holly let me know and I can forward the email to you. I tried to copy and paste the email in the forum but is WAAAAY too long.

P.s. Student PTAs need not to worry your AS degree will still be valid as well as any PTAs starting school within the next few years.

Hey James,
I would greatly appreciate it if you can forward the email to eviera21@hotmail.com.
Thanks

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acm

25 months ago

I forgot my email.....tmeluzio@hotmail.com thanks again James

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erin in San Diego, California

24 months ago

James Donner in Racine, Wisconsin said: Good news PTAs and future PTAs, RC-3-11 was REMOVED and REPLACED by RC-2-12. RC-2-12 reads ""the APTA recognizes that physical therapy is provided by, or under the direction and supervision of a physical therapist". An e-mail was sent out by Holly Clynch which is PTA sig President. Holly attended this years HOD and sent out a mass e-mail (which I got my hands on) giving a recap of some of the major motions brought forward. There is also another motion RC-20-12 which will soon require a Bachelor degree for entry level PTAs. Holly further says that this HOD was said to be MONUMENTAL in regards to PTAs. It was one of the first times the APTA has shown support and growth for the future of PTAs. This should be looked at as a good thing. Anyone who is interested in reading this entire email by Holly let me know and I can forward the email to you. I tried to copy and paste the email in the forum but is WAAAAY too long.

P.s. Student PTAs need not to worry your AS degree will still be valid as well as any PTAs starting school within the next few years.

hi james,

would you mind forwarding that email to me, too? i would greatly appreciate it! my email address is erinalc@aol.com

thanks so much,
erin

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SPTA Randy J in Hoffman Estates, Illinois

24 months ago

James Donner in Racine, Wisconsin said: Good news PTAs and future PTAs, RC-3-11 was REMOVED and REPLACED by RC-2-12. RC-2-12 reads ""the APTA recognizes that physical therapy is provided by, or under the direction and supervision of a physical therapist". An e-mail was sent out by Holly Clynch which is PTA sig President. Holly attended this years HOD and sent out a mass e-mail (which I got my hands on) giving a recap of some of the major motions brought forward. There is also another motion RC-20-12 which will soon require a Bachelor degree for entry level PTAs. Holly further says that this HOD was said to be MONUMENTAL in regards to PTAs. It was one of the first times the APTA has shown support and growth for the future of PTAs. This should be looked at as a good thing. Anyone who is interested in reading this entire email by Holly let me know and I can forward the email to you. I tried to copy and paste the email in the forum but is WAAAAY too long.

P.s. Student PTAs need not to worry your AS degree will still be valid as well as any PTAs starting school within the next few years.

Hi, James I would like to read that email as well. I did find some info on APTA website but still I wanna know a bit more what is going to happened to our profession. Thank you. randy76mt@yahoo.com

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SPTA Randy J in Hoffman Estates, Illinois

24 months ago

Here you can find some info regarding that topic.
c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.ipta.org/resource/resmgr/pt_priority_sept-oct.proof.pdf

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SPTA Randy J in Hoffman Estates, Illinois

24 months ago

I am still trying to find out how the health care reform will effect reimbursement for the services done by pta's. If anybody has a good link. Please let me know.

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Mike in Norwalk, California

24 months ago

James Donner in Racine, Wisconsin said: Good news PTAs and future PTAs, RC-3-11 was REMOVED and REPLACED by RC-2-12. RC-2-12 reads ""the APTA recognizes that physical therapy is provided by, or under the direction and supervision of a physical therapist". An e-mail was sent out by Holly Clynch which is PTA sig President. Holly attended this years HOD and sent out a mass e-mail (which I got my hands on) giving a recap of some of the major motions brought forward. There is also another motion RC-20-12 which will soon require a Bachelor degree for entry level PTAs. Holly further says that this HOD was said to be MONUMENTAL in regards to PTAs. It was one of the first times the APTA has shown support and growth for the future of PTAs. This should be looked at as a good thing. Anyone who is interested in reading this entire email by Holly let me know and I can forward the email to you. I tried to copy and paste the email in the forum but is WAAAAY too long.

P.s. Student PTAs need not to worry your AS degree will still be valid as well as any PTAs starting school within the next few years.

Hi James (or anyone who's received it already). Can I get a copy of that e-mail please? mikeysuh@gmail.com

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Mike in Norwalk, California

24 months ago

It doesn't seem to me that RC 3-11 was removed.

I read the "Summary of House of Delegates Activities June 2012" and it has RC 1-12, which:

"would have repealed last year's motion for physical therapy to be provided by the physical therapist and others the physical therapist deems appropriate for their practice in order to respond to the changes in healthcare"

AND

"would have stopped the exploration of other models of physical therapy practice involving more than the physical therapist and physical therapist assistant."

Wasn't this was RC 3-11 was about? This was withdrawn. Unless I'm missing something, it seems like RC 3-11 is still in effect.

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SPTA Randy J in Hoffman Estates, Illinois

24 months ago

Mike it says WITHDRAWN...

RC 1-12 RESCIND: PHYSICAL THERAPIST RESPONSIBILITY
AND ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE DELIVERY OF CARE

WITHDRAWN
• Would have repealed last year’s motion allowing for physical
therapy to be provided by the physical therapist and others the
physical therapist deems appropriate for their practice in order to
respond to the changes in healthcare.
• Would have stopped the exploration of other models of the physical
therapy practice involving more than the physical therapist and...

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Mike in Norwalk, California

24 months ago

SPTA Randy J:

I know. Doesn't that mean it didn't pass. RC 1-12 would've stopped RC 3-11, but it was withdrawn. That's why it says "Would have..." instead of "Will..."

So, it says RC 1-12 WOULD HAVE repealed last year's motion allowing for physical therapy to be provided by the physical therapist and others the physical therapist deems appropriate for their practice in order to respond to the changes in healthcare. But it was withdrawn...aka, didn't pass.

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Mike in Norwalk, California

24 months ago

Hey everyone! So, it's true! RC 3-11 is not in effect. I e-mailed the APTA and this is their response:

Hi, Mike,

RC3-11 was not instituted. The 2012 House of Delegates revoked RC3-11 and charged the Board of Directors to gather more information with an interim report to the 2013 House and a final report to the 2014 House. PTAs are still the only other provider of physical therapy.

Regardless of APTA’s policies and positions, PTs are required to follow their state practice act and the payers’ requirements. About half of states allow direction to other individuals, but payers typically only allow PTs and PTAs to provide physical therapy services.

I hope that this is helpful.

Janet

Janet Crosier, PT, DPT, MEd

Lead Physical Therapist Assistant Services Specialist

American Physical Therapy Association

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MNH in Ewa Beach, Hawaii

24 months ago

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K. in San Diego, California

18 months ago

James Donner in Racine, Wisconsin said: Good news PTAs and future PTAs, RC-3-11 was REMOVED and REPLACED by RC-2-12. RC-2-12 reads ""the APTA recognizes that physical therapy is provided by, or under the direction and supervision of a physical therapist". An e-mail was sent out by Holly Clynch which is PTA sig President. Holly attended this years HOD and sent out a mass e-mail (which I got my hands on) giving a recap of some of the major motions brought forward. There is also another motion RC-20-12 which will soon require a Bachelor degree for entry level PTAs. Holly further says that this HOD was said to be MONUMENTAL in regards to PTAs. It was one of the first times the APTA has shown support and growth for the future of PTAs. This should be looked at as a good thing. Anyone who is interested in reading this entire email by Holly let me know and I can forward the email to you. I tried to copy and paste the email in the forum but is WAAAAY too long.

P.s. Student PTAs need not to worry your AS degree will still be valid as well as any PTAs starting school within the next few years.

Hi James!

Can you email me a copy at mangofacee@gmail.com

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Merlin777 in Miami, Florida

16 months ago

If you have a chance, I would like a copy of the email from any of you. Thanks.

- SPTA Karl

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James in Racine, Wisconsin

16 months ago

Hey Karl,

I know I have the e-mail but I'll have to do some digging. I would just like to say that there is nothing to worry about. PTAs will always be an important role in the rehab team. From experience and from recent trends it seems as we have a much bigger role in the inpatient setting (acute, SAR, SNF, etc). I have seen a few jobs here for outpatient PT but it seems like we are getting somewhat phased out of that setting (maybe just here and it's just speculation). I would NEVER be afraid to lose my job to an athletic trainer doing IP therapy but they actually are somewhat of a value in the outpatient setting (they just get paid as a rehab tech here). Any additional questions?

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James in Racine, Wisconsin

16 months ago

Oh and I forgot to add that RC 3-11 was rescinded last year at the HOD

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