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kelvin corbett in Nashville, Tennessee

114 months ago

management experience will always help in the production field-- managers are now becoming more coaching and hands on--the typical dinosaur straw boss is out dated--won't make it in the team concept of supervision young supervisors are coming from team oriented backgrounds.

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Straw Boss in Detroit, Michigan

111 months ago

The problem with the team based concept of management is this: If everyone is responsible, it turns out that no one is responsible. Worked both sides of the equation and personal responsibility works the best in managing people. Younger managers prefer team concept because they are afraid of making mistakes.

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Fred44mag in San Antonio, Texas

111 months ago

Straw Boss in Detroit, Michigan said: The problem with the team based concept of management is this: If everyone is responsible, it turns out that no one is responsible. Worked both sides of the equation and personal responsibility works the best in managing people. Younger managers prefer team concept because they are afraid of making mistakes.

I certainly agree with your comment

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Straw Boss in Farmington, Michigan

111 months ago

Sure, I started a new job and am learning the process...got a couple of 30ish "supervisors" working with me. There was a simple task that had to be accomplished to get the production line back up and running, well they noticed it wasn't part of standard work and had not been assigned to a position so they huddled up with the production manager to rewrite the SOPs to include it...in case it happened again. While they were doing that I saw two workers sitting on a guard rail. I asked if they could finish the task for me. Sure they said, they got it done and I asked the line leader if he could restart now and he said no problem.
All you really have to do is ask people to do their jobs, ain't no "hands on" or "coaching" crapola work better than asking people to do what they are getting paid for.

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Eric in Minneapolis, Minnesota

27 months ago

Straw Boss in Farmington, Michigan said: Sure, I started a new job and am learning the process...got a couple of 30ish "supervisors" working with me. There was a simple task that had to be accomplished to get the production line back up and running, well they noticed it wasn't part of standard work and had not been assigned to a position so they huddled up with the production manager to rewrite the SOPs to include it...in case it happened again. While they were doing that I saw two workers sitting on a guard rail. I asked if they could finish the task for me. Sure they said, they got it done and I asked the line leader if he could restart now and he said no problem.
All you really have to do is ask people to do their jobs, ain't no "hands on" or "coaching" crapola work better than asking people to do what they are getting paid for.

Typical of youngish supervisors, let me guess: recent engineering degree, but no hands on production experience? Only foolish companies hire these kids for leadership positions. Granted I am 30ish myself(well 36), but have over 10 years of hands on manufacturing experience including lead/facilitator duties. I have no respect for any business that will hire some millennial kid with no experience, but have a degree, but never worked their way up from the production floor.

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